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Covid-19's origin. natural or lab made?

Postby redmanjp » May 24th, 2021, 2:39 pm

If covid was lab made (or a natural virus enhanced by gain of function processes) what are the consequences if it is proven that it came from a lab? or does it matter?

it matters for several reasons:

1) perhaps that lab has the cure? or an effective treatment?

2) it means an overhaul of biosafety compliance in that particular lab, as well as labs around the world to prevent yet another pandemic from occurring, or a downright ban on certain experiments.

3) perhaps china is made accountable for this pandemic and all loans to countries to help in the pandemic should be written off including to T&T?


when last has a single country caused such a global mess like this, covered it up and not held accountable?

this is one thing that cannot be dismissed as 'conspiracy theory', although a group of scientists were made to sign a statement downplaying it

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/24/gottlieb-says-theres-growing-circumstantial-evidence-that-covid-may-have-originated-in-a-lab.html?__twitter_impression=true&recirc=taboolainternal
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Re: Covid-19's origin. natural or lab made?

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Postby Dohplaydat » May 24th, 2021, 2:47 pm

If it's proven to be a China lab leak, they need to pay financially for this.

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Postby redmanjp » May 24th, 2021, 2:55 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:If it's proven to be a China lab leak, they need to pay financially for this.


T&T would need to revaluate our relationship with them, as many other countries

worse than a lab leak is if it was intentional and used as a bioweapon against the world (yes their own citizens were affected but they probably doh care about them)

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Postby Dohplaydat » May 24th, 2021, 3:14 pm

redmanjp wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:If it's proven to be a China lab leak, they need to pay financially for this.


T&T would need to revaluate our relationship with them, as many other countries

worse than a lab leak is if it was intentional and used as a bioweapon against the world (yes their own citizens were affected but they probably doh care about them)


Honestly, every country should stop relations with China. Nothing good can come from a dependence on China.

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Postby drchaos » May 24th, 2021, 11:36 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:If it's proven to be a China lab leak, they need to pay financially for this.


T&T would need to revaluate our relationship with them, as many other countries

worse than a lab leak is if it was intentional and used as a bioweapon against the world (yes their own citizens were affected but they probably doh care about them)


Honestly, every country should stop relations with China. Nothing good can come from a dependence on China.


Nah I like china ... Everything on Alibaba is like 60% cheaper vs getting it from the states.

Think of all the screwed up sheit America has done to the World.


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Postby daring dragoon » May 25th, 2021, 4:31 am

paid for by fauchi, no wonder trump fire he arse and ban china. its all abt $$$ for fauchi and he cohorts. d man even looks evil and trying to talk like he care. he is paid more than the president of the US and since the 80's making viruses to make money.

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Postby Mmoney607 » May 25th, 2021, 12:06 pm

If the WHO wasn't in bed with China and sole focus of the mainstream America wasn't to get Trump out of office, the world would've concluded immediately that this was lab made.

We would've had a better understanding of the behavior of the virus and could've dealt with it better. This was gain of function work so people obviously knew what how they were manipulating the virus to behave.

I do not blame China. China is doing what they need to do. If the WHO wasn't a total waste of time corrupt organization the world wouldn't be in this mess.

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Postby Dohplaydat » May 25th, 2021, 1:30 pm

drchaos wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:If it's proven to be a China lab leak, they need to pay financially for this.


T&T would need to revaluate our relationship with them, as many other countries

worse than a lab leak is if it was intentional and used as a bioweapon against the world (yes their own citizens were affected but they probably doh care about them)


Honestly, every country should stop relations with China. Nothing good can come from a dependence on China.


Nah I like china ... Everything on Alibaba is like 60% cheaper vs getting it from the states.

Think of all the screwed up sheit America has done to the World.


Not saying the US are saints, but China is almost a literal devil. No human rights, no care about their own people. Their only goal is money and power.

At least in the west, we have freedom. China already starting to muzzle politicians across the world who are in their pockets.


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Re: Covid-19's origin. natural or lab made?

Postby redmanjp » May 25th, 2021, 3:53 pm



https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/u-s-intel-report-identified-3-wuhan-lab-researchers-who-n1268327

so all of a sudden this is not some crazy conspiracy theory as some were saying

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Postby toyota2nr » May 25th, 2021, 4:58 pm

Apparently Fauci funded the Wuhan Institute of Virology through a company called Eco Alliance to carry out gain of function research which produced the SARS-CoV2. The first people to be admitted in hospital in 2018 for Covid were research from Wuhan.

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Re: Covid-19's origin. natural or lab made?

Postby drchaos » May 25th, 2021, 11:20 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
drchaos wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:If it's proven to be a China lab leak, they need to pay financially for this.


T&T would need to revaluate our relationship with them, as many other countries

worse than a lab leak is if it was intentional and used as a bioweapon against the world (yes their own citizens were affected but they probably doh care about them)


Honestly, every country should stop relations with China. Nothing good can come from a dependence on China.


Nah I like china ... Everything on Alibaba is like 60% cheaper vs getting it from the states.

Think of all the screwed up sheit America has done to the World.


Not saying the US are saints, but China is almost a literal devil. No human rights, no care about their own people. Their only goal is money and power.

At least in the west, we have freedom. China already starting to muzzle politicians across the world who are in their pockets.


True true ...

I don't think China is our biggest issue tho. I see corporations being the new power in the world in the next 10 years.

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Re: Covid-19's origin. natural or lab made?

Postby De Dragon » May 26th, 2021, 9:47 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:If the WHO wasn't in bed with China and sole focus of the mainstream America wasn't to get Trump out of office, the world would've concluded immediately that this was lab made.

We would've had a better understanding of the behavior of the virus and could've dealt with it better. This was gain of function work so people obviously knew what how they were manipulating the virus to behave.

I do not blame China. China is doing what they need to do. If the WHO wasn't a total waste of time corrupt organization the world wouldn't be in this mess.

Er, amm NO!
Trump got the boot for downplaying the virus which then killed hundreds of thousands of US citizens. Prior to that he was sailing to reelection with a bouyant economy, jobs galore and heavy support from his base
Any virus has to be studied before you can learn how it spreads, develop vaccines etc, no matter its origin.

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Postby aaron17 » May 27th, 2021, 9:17 pm

If that is true...will US wage a war against China?

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Postby widdyphuck » May 27th, 2021, 9:21 pm

aaron17 wrote:If that is true...will US wage a war against China?
Yes they will. They US will do whatever they have to do to recover the trillions of dollars lost from their economy.

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Postby redmanjp » May 27th, 2021, 9:59 pm

wtf wrote:
aaron17 wrote:If that is true...will US wage a war against China?
Yes they will. They US will do whatever they have to do to recover the trillions of dollars lost from their economy.


what about the rest of the world?

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Postby Ben_spanna » May 27th, 2021, 10:05 pm

Of course it’s Lab made, China knew exactly what it was when somehow it was mistakenly released into the air or someone there.
The primary reasoning behind this was:
If this was a bat that cause this why was it that from the very first week of the virus being supposedly being discovered that China s government immediately put up additional hospitals and started quarantining people ?
No country in the world would act that way if it was some mysterious virus that could have been caused from consuming an animal… it’s all a Laboratory made weapon, the question is who exactly are the people/countries responsible for this to begin with.

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Postby aaron17 » May 28th, 2021, 8:52 am

watch from 5:02 onward. Speculation on the China communist in relation to ufos and biological warfare against US?


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Re: Covid-19's origin. natural or lab made?

Postby VexXx Dogg » May 28th, 2021, 10:25 am

The lab leak theory has re-emerged in mainstream media, might be getting some traction.

BUT
BBC wrote:What do scientists think?
The issue is still being hotly contested.
A World Health Organization (WHO) investigation was supposed to get to the bottom of it, but many experts believed it produced more questions than answers.
A team of WHO-appointed scientists flew to Wuhan earlier this year on a mission to investigate the source of the pandemic. After spending 12 days there, which included a visit to the laboratory, the team concluded the lab-leak theory was "extremely unlikely".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57268111

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Postby widdyphuck » May 28th, 2021, 10:34 am

redmanjp wrote:
wtf wrote:
aaron17 wrote:If that is true...will US wage a war against China?
Yes they will. They US will do whatever they have to do to recover the trillions of dollars lost from their economy.


what about the rest of the world?
I don't think the rest of the world has the balls to go after China the way the US will.
Rest assured the US won't let this fiasco to be swept under the carpet.

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Postby adnj » May 28th, 2021, 11:09 am

"Taking a methodical, dispassionate approach to tracking the origins of the coronavirus could take many times longer than Biden’s proposed 90 days, assuming there’s ever conclusive proof at all. It took around 14 years to figure out where the SARS virus came from. Tracing the origins of the 1918 flu pandemic took decades. Scientists still don’t know where Ebola outbreaks come from."

https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/28/2245 ... s-pandemic

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Re: Covid-19's origin. natural or lab made?

Postby redmanjp » May 28th, 2021, 2:10 pm

wtf wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
wtf wrote:
aaron17 wrote:If that is true...will US wage a war against China?
Yes they will. They US will do whatever they have to do to recover the trillions of dollars lost from their economy.


what about the rest of the world?
I don't think the rest of the world has the balls to go after China the way the US will.
Rest assured the US won't let this fiasco to be swept under the carpet.


didn't biden cancel a trump admin investigation?

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Re: Covid-19's origin. natural or lab made?

Postby toyolink » May 28th, 2021, 2:19 pm

Only hope this don't become another weapons of mass destruction revelation which was used to go after Saddam.
Oh, well the world in a mess already, we down here better 'ban belly' and when allowed stay drunk.

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Re: Covid-19's origin. natural or lab made?

Postby 88sins » May 30th, 2021, 3:15 pm

There is neither was anything natural about this virus that is threatening the global population today.
From what I understand (& I could be wrong), viruses that are already as highly contagious as the original virus was don't mutate as quickly as this virus has. In approximately 15 months, it has spawned at least 5 new variants, each significantly similar to yet at the same time substantially different from the perceived original virus.
Not even making mention of the proximity between the lab and the wet market where it was thought to have originated.

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Re: Covid-19's origin. natural or lab made?

Postby Redman » May 30th, 2021, 5:28 pm

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/viro ... le-natural


Two notable virologists claim to have found "unique fingerprints" on COVID-19 samples that only could have arisen from laboratory manipulation, according to an explosive 22-page paper obtained by the Daily Mail.


The paper's authors, Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen (left) and British Professor Angus Dalgleish (right) via the Daily Mail
British professor Angus Dalgleish - best known for creating the world's first 'HIV vaccine', and Norwegian virologist Dr. Birger Sørensen - chair of pharmaceutical company, Immunor, who has published 31 peer-reviewed papers and holds several patents, wrote that while analyzing virus samples last year, the pair discovered "unique fingerprints" in the form of "six inserts" created through gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China

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