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Habit7 wrote:1/ Seychelles is just 98,000 ppl, a very small sample size
2/ 60% were vaccinated in total, 18-60 year old with Sinopharm and 60+ with AZ
3/ Hospitalised 18-60 were 80% unvaccinated
4/ No fully vaccinated person has died.
I think this Seychelles is being dragged out without looking at the finer details.
daring dragoon wrote:watch meh, d finance minister said that the govt going to purchase 1.5 million doses for 1.4 million locals so just now everyman will get a vaccine and life back to normal. great is the PNM, Great is uncle colm.
gastly369 wrote:https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/immunization/sage/2021/april/2_sage29apr2021_critical-evidence_sinopharm.pdf
Can take a read of the pdf
Devourment wrote:gastly369 wrote:https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/immunization/sage/2021/april/2_sage29apr2021_critical-evidence_sinopharm.pdf
Can take a read of the pdf
Good info, the final page is a bit worrying though.
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Maybe we should adopt a strategy of AZ for over 60, Sinopharm for under 60.
redmanjp wrote:Devourment wrote:gastly369 wrote:https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/immunization/sage/2021/april/2_sage29apr2021_critical-evidence_sinopharm.pdf
Can take a read of the pdf
Good info, the final page is a bit worrying though.
Screenshot 2021-05-12 at 12.52.30 am.png
Maybe we should adopt a strategy of AZ for over 60, Sinopharm for under 60.
under 60 only with no NCDs, basically young and healthy- the main reason to give it to this group is herd immunity, but it won't prevent most hospitalizations if older ppl don't get it and there isn't another vaccine available for them.
but when next we getting AZ? i think next month is the final batch and that's only 33000?
all this uncertainty in acquiring a large enough amount of vaccines yet health minister say herd immunity in 6-7 months
zoom rader wrote:All of this could have been avoided if the red government was proactive in dealing with covid.
Citizens have to die before the red government got off their arse rather than stealing HSF to give to the 1%
Take more bull
Habit7 wrote:redmanjp wrote:Devourment wrote:gastly369 wrote:https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/immunization/sage/2021/april/2_sage29apr2021_critical-evidence_sinopharm.pdf
Can take a read of the pdf
Good info, the final page is a bit worrying though.
Screenshot 2021-05-12 at 12.52.30 am.png
Maybe we should adopt a strategy of AZ for over 60, Sinopharm for under 60.
under 60 only with no NCDs, basically young and healthy- the main reason to give it to this group is herd immunity, but it won't prevent most hospitalizations if older ppl don't get it and there isn't another vaccine available for them.
but when next we getting AZ? i think next month is the final batch and that's only 33000?
all this uncertainty in acquiring a large enough amount of vaccines yet health minister say herd immunity in 6-7 months
We could get herd-immunity 6-7mths with the 1.5M Sinopharm we are ordering. They won't all come at once because some will expire.
Ppl were complaining for AZ, AZ came and they start to complain about blood clots
The WHO approve Sinopharm, ppl acting like they consulted PNM to get it approved and to help China
IDK about you but I want this to be over. If you always eating Chinese food but can't trust a Chinese vaccine made by the most popular and safe way we have been making vaccines which is with deactivated virus, then you like the pandemic and you don't want it to be over.
Total fu*king bull5hit coming from you.teems1 wrote:zoom rader wrote:All of this could have been avoided if the red government was proactive in dealing with covid.
Citizens have to die before the red government got off their arse rather than stealing HSF to give to the 1%
Take more bull
For a year now many have been WFH.
Closed borders.
Creation of parallel health system.
Daily bulletins and frequent press conferences.
Monetary grants made possible.
Schools have been online.
Legislation put in place to assist with social distancing and essential businesses.
Cracking down on zesser/wesser parties.
Joined COVAX.
The only real missteps was the Easter weekend fiasco, inability to secure the borders from illegals and not requesting vaccine donations from India like the other Caribbean nations.
Election campaigns happened on both sides, and the porous borders are due to Trinis illegally trafficking.
What more do you want?
BUG wrote:First real world data out of Italy. Based on 37,000 vaccinated people. One dose of Oxford-Astra Zeneca has 99% efficacy against severe disease/hospitalization, and 100% efficacy against death (only 1 vaccinated person died and was 96 years old).
https://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2021/ ... 300820163/
When my workplace was vaccinating it's employees with O-AZ a few months ago we had around a 40% refusal rate because some were scared of the "getting struck by lightning" odds of developing a blood clot. They're regretting that decision now...
Dohplaydat wrote:BUG wrote:First real world data out of Italy. Based on 37,000 vaccinated people. One dose of Oxford-Astra Zeneca has 99% efficacy against severe disease/hospitalization, and 100% efficacy against death (only 1 vaccinated person died and was 96 years old).
https://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2021/ ... 300820163/
When my workplace was vaccinating it's employees with O-AZ a few months ago we had around a 40% refusal rate because some were scared of the "getting struck by lightning" odds of developing a blood clot. They're regretting that decision now...
Great news, meanwhile Sinopharm's real world efficacy is reportedly 50%.
https://www.africanews.com/2021/05/14/s ... s-experts/
At least Sinopharm is preventing hospitalisations, but using this vaccine delays our recovery.
Dr Jude Gedeon, the nation's public health commissioner addressed the public.
"We are however registering some positive cases, about one-third of positive cases are among people who have been vaccinated with the two doses. But this group of people tend to not have any symptoms, they were tested because they were contacts, or they have mild symptoms. "
Among those who have received two vaccine doses to date, 57% were Sinopharm and 43% Covishield AstraZeneca.
It is unclear exactly which vaccine was administered to fully immunized individuals who have since tested positive for coronavirus.Dr Jude Gedeon elaborated on the situation.
"So far of all the active cases that we have, almost all are Seychellois, 85%. We do have however 15% of people who are active, active cases who are foreigners, they are either GOB holders, or visitors. "
According to the nation's health ministry, of the patients requiring hospital treatment, 80% had not been vaccinated and tended to be people with co-morbidities.
All of this could have been avoided if the red government was very proactive.Habit7 wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:BUG wrote:First real world data out of Italy. Based on 37,000 vaccinated people. One dose of Oxford-Astra Zeneca has 99% efficacy against severe disease/hospitalization, and 100% efficacy against death (only 1 vaccinated person died and was 96 years old).
https://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2021/ ... 300820163/
When my workplace was vaccinating it's employees with O-AZ a few months ago we had around a 40% refusal rate because some were scared of the "getting struck by lightning" odds of developing a blood clot. They're regretting that decision now...
Great news, meanwhile Sinopharm's real world efficacy is reportedly 50%.
https://www.africanews.com/2021/05/14/s ... s-experts/
At least Sinopharm is preventing hospitalisations, but using this vaccine delays our recovery.
Sinopharm is certainly not the most effective but it is sufficient to reduce our deaths. It utilises the more rudimentary way of creating a vaccine which doesn't make it as effective as the gene therapy vaccines but there is also less chance of bad side effects. As I said before Seychelles is a very small sample size to extrapolate but the article has better explanation than what is suggested by the headline.Dr Jude Gedeon, the nation's public health commissioner addressed the public.
"We are however registering some positive cases, about one-third of positive cases are among people who have been vaccinated with the two doses. But this group of people tend to not have any symptoms, they were tested because they were contacts, or they have mild symptoms. "Among those who have received two vaccine doses to date, 57% were Sinopharm and 43% Covishield AstraZeneca.
It is unclear exactly which vaccine was administered to fully immunized individuals who have since tested positive for coronavirus.Dr Jude Gedeon elaborated on the situation.
"So far of all the active cases that we have, almost all are Seychellois, 85%. We do have however 15% of people who are active, active cases who are foreigners, they are either GOB holders, or visitors. "
According to the nation's health ministry, of the patients requiring hospital treatment, 80% had not been vaccinated and tended to be people with co-morbidities.
So Seychellois were almost equally vaccinated with Sinopharm and AZ but it seems like only Sinopharm getting the blame.
Nevertheless, it would still be an improvement over what we currently have and we can't be waiting forever for Pfizer, Moderna and J&J to allow some crumbs to fall off the table to sell us vaccines.
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