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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » October 25th, 2021, 7:18 pm

De Dragon wrote:
matr1x wrote:If you listened to 96.7 your would swear everything leaking out of pnm anus was ice cream

You eh hadda go quite dey, Colos, joe and the rest of the LFD RFD PNM dummies doing dat right here!
Joe was going good and his true colours showed. What a let down from Joe.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby bluefete » October 26th, 2021, 7:13 pm

CHUNE!!!!



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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » October 26th, 2021, 7:53 pm

matr1x wrote:If you listened to 96.7 your would swear everything leaking out of pnm anus was ice cream


Listened and came across some good ni99a music

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 26th, 2021, 7:57 pm

MaxPower wrote:
matr1x wrote:If you listened to 96.7 your would swear everything leaking out of pnm anus was ice cream


Listened and came across some good ni99a music
Max,

What is ni99a music?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » October 26th, 2021, 9:28 pm

hover11 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
matr1x wrote:If you listened to 96.7 your would swear everything leaking out of pnm anus was ice cream


Listened and came across some good ni99a music
Max,

What is ni99a music?


Check the urban dictionary bro

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby timelapse » October 27th, 2021, 8:44 am

hover11 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
matr1x wrote:If you listened to 96.7 your would swear everything leaking out of pnm anus was ice cream


Listened and came across some good ni99a music
Max,

What is ni99a music?
Lalana Khoosie-Sam Boodram is ni99a music

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby FuadAdnan » October 29th, 2021, 2:55 pm

Blaze d Chalice wrote:

In case that video not working.
https://www.facebook.com/100070246899995/videos/920160045257937


Good lyrics but oh gosh man, you hadda act and look like steve urkel so. I feel is zoom/bluefete singing there.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » November 8th, 2021, 5:17 am

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Wraith King » November 8th, 2021, 7:31 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Paging habit


Similar to flooding, crime, potholes and any other issue that exists under the PNM, Habit7 and his "academic" source believes that wasting over half a billion dollars is desirable and necessary.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » November 10th, 2021, 1:10 pm

wonders what scheme rowley will concoct to bleed the treasury next year...

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » November 10th, 2021, 1:13 pm

Wraith King wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Paging habit


Similar to flooding, crime, potholes and any other issue that exists under the PNM, Habit7 and his "academic" source believes that wasting over half a billion dollars is desirable and necessary.

Nah the "$0.5B is small ting" man is Colostomy Bag

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » November 10th, 2021, 1:22 pm

sMASH wrote:wonders what scheme rowley will concoct to bleed the treasury next year...
Look out for the great pot hole repair scam.

A cepep pot hole repair crew will be formed to do sub standard work

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » November 10th, 2021, 1:24 pm

we already purchased a pot hole repair truck... we gonna order more?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby daxt0r » November 11th, 2021, 7:44 am

zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:wonders what scheme rowley will concoct to bleed the treasury next year...
Look out for the great pot hole repair scam.

A cepep pot hole repair crew will be formed to do sub standard work


you coulda jus say business as usual only thing different is jus more dunce red teamers at the feeding trough.
Nothin guarantees rehiring/re-election like a job badly done in sweet T&T, see our roads, any state org and PNM longevity in government to prove these irrefutable facts. or as we say we love it so.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby daxt0r » November 11th, 2021, 7:50 am

Donkey PNM logic to save Train1 and they knew and the likes of Redman, habit, et al, support it.
Imagine dese red dunce in d kingdom of d blind letting a dunce old man lead them, bess he go tobago and groom some women like a golf course like he like to do den again he might end up bounce dem down instead.

https://www.guardian.co.tt/business/sto ... 892ed09a29

Atlantic LNG Train 1 is dead. It is as simple as that. No amount of spin, no amount of stalling, no amount of attacking the media and citizens, no amount of blaming the multinationals, no amount of hand wringing will change that. The gas is simply not there, will not be there any time soon and the corollary of all of that is the National Gas Company’s ill-fated attempt to save Train 1 has failed and the money gone down the proverbial drain.

On Saturday a forlorn-looking Prime Minister, Dr Keith Christopher Rowley held a news conference upon his return from Glasgow and effectively said what this column and newspaper has reported for almost a year, that Train 1 is effectively dead and all that is left to be done is the zipping up the proverbial body bag.

He said; “It is not for the Government to just walk out of a situation on Train 1. Train 1 is integrally connected to Trains 2, 3 and 4 and it’s not that we own the business, we are only a ten per cent owner but as a country, we have a much larger interest than ten per cent so we would be the last person to walk away from the table on Train 1 but in the discussions that we have been having, we as a Government would have done and we continue to give hope for the breathing of life into Train 1 until the doctor says it’s dead.”

Rowley continued; “I think the doctor is putting on his coat right now and we had the kind of discussions where, with BP and Shell, particularly with BP, the largest gas producer, where, … initially we relied, Government relied, when we extended the life of Train 1 for five years and BP was engaged in an infield drilling programme, we anticipated a positive out-turn. As fate would have it, BP drilled a number of dry holes and had to, in the end, confirm that we don’t have the gas for Train 1.”

The Prime Minister said as a 10 per cent shareholder in the Train 1 project, T&T had to spend some money to keep its options open but now the discussion was more about how to salvage the projects going forward.

“We spent, I think it is about US$33 million to keep the Train 1 option open, not only for negotiation purposes but also for the possibility that if gas was available that we would continue. I think we can now conclude that the gas is not there because BP has not been successful,” the PM said.

“What we discussed is what BP is going to do going forward in terms of investing and again keep continuing to try to find more gas in the Columbus Basin and elsewhere. ... so that being so, the shareholders of Train 1 now have and we have agreed that by the end of the first quarter of 2022, we will take a definitive decision on how we together do what has to be done about Train 1 and attempt to conclude the restructuring of Trains 2, 3 and 4 where all the shareholders will have their interest well served in a restructured arrangement of the 2, 3 and 4 trains. So that is well underway and that was part of our discussions.”

It was in December last year that the Business Guardian broke the unfortunate news to the country that Train 1 would have to be shut down come January 2021.

The story was immediately seized upon by the Opposition United National Congress and it raised the issue in the Parliament.

From December 4, until last Sunday the government has tried to spin to the population that the Guardian’s reporting was false and misleading.

The former Energy Minister, the late Franklin Khan led the charge telling the Parliament that the story was inaccurate and Train 1 will be running all of 2021. History will show this was simply not accurate.

Khan told the Parliament; “Madam Speaker Atlantic Train One will not be shutting down in January 2021. Train One will continue to operate in 2021 and will be part of wider negotiations which have been taking place among the Atlantic LNG shareholders to form one unitised facility encompassing all four trains.”

It must be understood that while Khan was saying Train 1 would be saved at the same time the National Gas Company was committing itself to pay for the turnaround of the plant, and its maintenance for 2021 which, if it had kept to its contract, would have added up to well over $400 million. The Prime Minister appeared pleased that the loss of a quarter billion dollars was a reasonable gamble.

Based on documents the Business Guardian has we have confirmed that the government knew on December 3, 2020 that there would be no gas for Train 1 as the country’s largest natural gas supplier and the only supplier to Train 1, bpTT wrote to the NGC advising the state-owned company that it (bpTT) would not be delivering its full daily contracted quantities (DCQ) for contract year 2021. bpTT further advised NGC in that very December 3, 2020 email, that NGC should take this into consideration before making any decision to invest in Train 1.

NGC—led by its president Mark Loquan—was convinced that it could procure the required gas for Train 1 and advised the Board and the Keith Rowley government to pursue the unilateral funding of the Train 1 Turnaround (upgrade) and to fund the maintenance of the Train 1 operations.

New documents provided to the Business Guardian confirm Loquan and Verlier Quan Vie, the NGC’s Vice President Commercial, led the charge in the move by NGC to take advantage of the fact that Yara, Tringen and MHTL were all in active and advanced negotiations with NGC around December 2020. Due to COVID and the effects on methanol and ammonia prices, a couple of the plants at Point Lisas also invoked the “economic shutdown” option clause in their contracts which allowed them to unilaterally shutdown their plants for specific periods of time without any liability once methanol and ammonia prices dropped below a certain threshold. The “economic shutdown” option proved itself risky and not well thought out by Loquan and Quan Vie because while downstream plants can invoke it unilaterally, once the pricing threshold is reached, NGC had no coverage against this in its upstream contracts. In other words, NGC could not invoke “economic shutdown” in any of its upstream contracts but still offered this option to many of its downstream customers.

Under the failed plan, the gas would be “freed up” as it appeared that the Yara plant, the Tringen 1 plant and one of the then four operating MHTL methanol plants would continue and that methanol and ammonia prices would remain depressed for most of 2021 and therefore the plants that were involved “economic shutdown” would remain closed for all or most of 2021. They also assumed that the Methanex plant which was down, as they could not agree on a gas price in the renewal discussions with NGC, would remain down because the NGC had no plan to offer a better price to Methanex for the gas needed by Titan and Methanex was not prepared to budge on the issue. Even amidst high methanol prices, Titan remains closed.

The NGC’s chairman Conrad Enill admitted as much during an interview on I95.5fm when he explained what the situation was like in December 2020.

“We looked at the situation where we had gas, domestic gas, and yes Curtis is correct, BP wrote us and said to us, listen we have some shortages, we think it is going to be about a month or so, we understood that was normal and we could deal with that. So we were working on the basis that we had gas, and we had no takers. We had planned a Train 1 maintenance of which the NGC would pay some portion because we are part owners in Train 1,” Enill revealed.

He added, “Atlantic came to us and said, we need you to make a decision because by January 12th, 2021 if you do not commit to the maintenance on this plant, the next opportunity that you have is in a November of 2021, because immediately, as soon as your plant is maintained, we have to do shutdowns on two and then three in the normal course of things......

“We found ourselves in a situation therefore where, NGC took the decision that we are going to support the maintenance of the plant although the others (bpTT, Shell, the Chinese investors) decided that they were not going to so do, because we understood that we had gas that was available for domestic (use) which we were negotiating, which if it had been converted to LNG would have at least given us some revenue. That was in December.

Yet the government up to the Budget debate last month still tried to spin the issue and pretend the negotiations were live and too complex for ordinary citizens to understand.

Over the last year, the Business Guardian has kept faith with its readers and reported factually and with deep analysis on the situation.

For reporting on this major public interest issue and bringing the facts into the public domain, which is the essence of journalism, I have been attacked by the Prime Minister, the Minister of Energy and their proxies.

All have attempted to rubbish the reports while stoutly defending the NGC and, more specifically, its president.

Curiously, in performing the media’s role as watchdog, I have not only been vilified by a government that shows no appetite for holding the NGC to account but by individuals trading on their past in the profession of journalism or as Energy Experts who were prepared to ignore the truth.

I really wish it did not come to this. I wish our leaders had made better decisions because I know Aria, Che, Nathaniel, Makela, and Kalyise are counting on our leaders to do better and those of us entrusted with the responsibility of the fourth estate to speak truth to power and hold people to account.

It’s time the spin comes to an end.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » November 11th, 2021, 10:10 am

No surprise how much uneducated red government ppl still rush to vote Rowlee

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » November 11th, 2021, 5:40 pm

zoom rader wrote:No surprise how much uneducated red government ppl still rush to vote Rowlee


Zoom,

So far it looks like PNM 2025 again.

You really want the unstable and headless UNC in power?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » November 11th, 2021, 6:16 pm

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:No surprise how much uneducated red government ppl still rush to vote Rowlee


Zoom,

So far it looks like PNM 2025 again.

You really want the unstable and headless UNC in power?
If you like living in hog5hit then enjoy it

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » November 11th, 2021, 7:18 pm

Stink Fack JUHN Scarfy spent 500M dollars on a PR campaign. Train 1 was dead from 2019, but cacaholes like Colos and Tuntsy kept defending it as some kind of master play from this absolute train wreck of a dotish government.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Blaze d Chalice » November 11th, 2021, 9:23 pm

Wait nah Habit really gone into hiding?

Coincidentally I went on Rhoda page and also cannot find anything relating to that.
Habit = Rhoda? Or both of them waiting on the same script?

Don't let this make you think I not voting red-govament though.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redman » November 12th, 2021, 7:14 am

De Dragon wrote:Stink Fack JUHN Scarfy spent 500M dollars on a PR campaign. Train 1 was dead from 2019, but cacaholes like Colos and Tuntsy kept defending it as some kind of master play from this absolute train wreck of a dotish government.


Lol you have so much emotion tied up in being right, you need to keep pointing it out.

It is pitiful that your every post is about what someone else will say or said.

If only you and the UNC could actually win an election.

You both need to change your model of blathering useless bile.And saying nothing at full speed.

Get yuh chit together and win an election or something nah.

If the PNM doing so much crap...why can't the UNV win?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » November 12th, 2021, 7:32 am

Redman wrote:
De Dragon wrote:Stink Fack JUHN Scarfy spent 500M dollars on a PR campaign. Train 1 was dead from 2019, but cacaholes like Colos and Tuntsy kept defending it as some kind of master play from this absolute train wreck of a dotish government.


Lol you have so much emotion tied up in being right, you need to keep pointing it out.

It is pitiful that your every post is about what someone else will say or said.

If only you and the UNC could actually win an election.

You both need to change your model of blathering useless bile.And saying nothing at full speed.

Get yuh chit together and win an election or something nah.

If the PNM doing so much crap...why can't the UNV win?
It's because we in a very stupid cont tree where red government ppl are still locked in slavery and can't think for themselves

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » November 12th, 2021, 8:01 am

enuka Singh

Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley yesterday dismissed the Opposition's concern that a new member of the Police Service Commission had links to the Government and was too close to it.

During the debate to approve President Paula-Mae Weekes’ nominees to the PSC on Wednesday, United National Congress MP for Oropouche East Dr Roodal Moonilal said that wealth manager Maxine King, through her company Firstline Security, was associated with a development in Buccoo which is being managed by Inez Investments, which was linked to a Government official.

Moonilal questioned King’s relationship with the Government as a result of this.

“The headline point is the person, Maxine King is much too close to the political executive of this country to be on the Police Service Commission by virtue of her job as the wealth manager at Firstline Securities,” Moonilal said.

Moonilal also queried whether Ian Ramdhanie had some “interfacing” with members of the Police Service Commission.

“An employee of that organisation has indicated to me that the person is prepared to write the new chairman and indeed the personal administration about a previous interfacing with a nominee who is before us,” he said.

Yesterday, however, Rowley labelled Moonilal as "farse and boldface" for making those vague connections between the Government and the nominees.

"For a person who has done to this country what he did and who is mentioned so frequently and questioningly in court documents, who is of great interest to the police, he just farse and boldface to be seeking to cast aspersions on any person in this country," Rowley said.

Rowley urged Moonilal to deal with his own matters first.

"He would do well to follow the judge’s ruling and conclude and present his defence in the court matters where he and others have to account for how they wantonly and self-servingly expended huge sums of taxpayers’ money," he said.

"The same taxpayers whom they now pretend to be protecting and defending, even as the police is looking for them for what they did when they had the reins of authority in 2010-2015.”

Rowley added, "I have no interest in anything that Moonilal has to say.”

Retired Justice Judith Jones, King, Ramdhanie, Maxine Attong and Rajiv Persad were eventually approved with the 21 Government MPs voting for and the 19 Opposition MPS voting against. The new members are expected to be sworn in next week.


Well we are now a police state

From a part democratic state to now an autocratic state .

We in full North Korea mode, the red government controls everything now, President, DPP, Judges Police ect

Again trinis just sit and take it all, a land filled with people that cant think for themselves

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » November 12th, 2021, 10:02 am

Blaze d Chalice wrote:Wait nah Habit really gone into hiding?

Coincidentally I went on Rhoda page and also cannot find anything relating to that.
Habit = Rhoda? Or both of them waiting on the same script?

Don't let this make you think I not voting red-govament though.


Either that or police pick him up again for smut.

Yeah rhoda is pro-pnm so any files that buss especially where there is no doubt like the Train 1 issue, she willfully ignores and talks about other topics.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Wraith King » November 12th, 2021, 10:39 am

Redman wrote:
De Dragon wrote:Stink Fack JUHN Scarfy spent 500M dollars on a PR campaign. Train 1 was dead from 2019, but cacaholes like Colos and Tuntsy kept defending it as some kind of master play from this absolute train wreck of a dotish government.


Lol you have so much emotion tied up in being right, you need to keep pointing it out.

It is pitiful that your every post is about what someone else will say or said.

If only you and the UNC could actually win an election.

You both need to change your model of blathering useless bile.And saying nothing at full speed.

Get yuh chit together and win an election or something nah.

If the PNM doing so much crap...why can't the UNV win?


PNM wins because persons don't vote on anything other than race.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » November 12th, 2021, 10:40 am

Wraith King wrote:
Redman wrote:
De Dragon wrote:Stink Fack JUHN Scarfy spent 500M dollars on a PR campaign. Train 1 was dead from 2019, but cacaholes like Colos and Tuntsy kept defending it as some kind of master play from this absolute train wreck of a dotish government.


Lol you have so much emotion tied up in being right, you need to keep pointing it out.

It is pitiful that your every post is about what someone else will say or said.

If only you and the UNC could actually win an election.

You both need to change your model of blathering useless bile.And saying nothing at full speed.

Get yuh chit together and win an election or something nah.

If the PNM doing so much crap...why can't the UNV win?


PNM wins because persons don't vote on anything other than race.
Nail on head

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Gladiator » November 12th, 2021, 12:27 pm

Redman wrote:
De Dragon wrote:Stink Fack JUHN Scarfy spent 500M dollars on a PR campaign. Train 1 was dead from 2019, but cacaholes like Colos and Tuntsy kept defending it as some kind of master play from this absolute train wreck of a dotish government.


Lol you have so much emotion tied up in being right, you need to keep pointing it out.

It is pitiful that your every post is about what someone else will say or said.

If only you and the UNC could actually win an election.

You both need to change your model of blathering useless bile.And saying nothing at full speed.

Get yuh chit together and win an election or something nah.

If the PNM doing so much crap...why can't the UNV win?


In case you haven't been alive for the past 30 years, the PNM wins all elections unless they screw the population so badly that their supporters don't go out and vote.

The core PNM base is a brainless mindless zombie force that will do the same thing over and over without even the slightest bit of critical thinking. You really think anybody going to change that?

Additionally, the PNM uses the EBC and HDC to jerrymander seats in order to always have an advantage. Truth is that we have been the victims of a single party dictatorship for the majority of our independence and sadly people like you have no issue with it.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » November 12th, 2021, 2:34 pm

Gladiator wrote:
Redman wrote:
De Dragon wrote:Stink Fack JUHN Scarfy spent 500M dollars on a PR campaign. Train 1 was dead from 2019, but cacaholes like Colos and Tuntsy kept defending it as some kind of master play from this absolute train wreck of a dotish government.


Lol you have so much emotion tied up in being right, you need to keep pointing it out.

It is pitiful that your every post is about what someone else will say or said.

If only you and the UNC could actually win an election.

You both need to change your model of blathering useless bile.And saying nothing at full speed.

Get yuh chit together and win an election or something nah.

If the PNM doing so much crap...why can't the UNV win?


In case you haven't been alive for the past 30 years, the PNM wins all elections unless they screw the population so badly that their supporters don't go out and vote.

The core PNM base is a brainless mindless zombie force that will do the same thing over and over without even the slightest bit of critical thinking. You really think anybody going to change that?

Additionally, the PNM uses the EBC and HDC to jerrymander seats in order to always have an advantage. Truth is that we have been the victims of a single party dictatorship for the majority of our independence and sadly people like you have no issue with it.
There are no independent bodies left

Trinidad in deep 5hit

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redman » November 13th, 2021, 8:12 am

Gladiator wrote:
Redman wrote:
De Dragon wrote:Stink Fack JUHN Scarfy spent 500M dollars on a PR campaign. Train 1 was dead from 2019, but cacaholes like Colos and Tuntsy kept defending it as some kind of master play from this absolute train wreck of a dotish government.


Lol you have so much emotion tied up in being right, you need to keep pointing it out.

It is pitiful that your every post is about what someone else will say or said.

If only you and the UNC could actually win an election.

You both need to change your model of blathering useless bile.And saying nothing at full speed.

Get yuh chit together and win an election or something nah.

If the PNM doing so much crap...why can't the UNV win?


In case you haven't been alive for the past 30 years, the PNM wins all elections unless they screw the population so badly that their supporters don't go out and vote.

The core PNM base is a brainless mindless zombie force that will do the same thing over and over without even the slightest bit of critical thinking. You really think anybody going to change that?

Additionally, the PNM uses the EBC and HDC to jerrymander seats in order to always have an advantage. Truth is that we have been the victims of a single party dictatorship for the majority of our independence and sadly people like you have no issue with it.


Gladiator.

Go do the math on our demographics.
Look then at the ebc election reports that have been sanctioned by UN..

The math is that neither race has the voting power to win an election.
It's been like that for decades.

Since 1995 PNM lost 3 out of 7 elections.
UNC lost 4.

The deciding factor without question are non aligned voters.

It isn't the PNMs fault that the opposition lost the confidence of the voters on both occasions they were in power.
Is it the PNM that rig the unc performance internally or externally?

Is it the PNM that blew the 2015 election despite having the constitutional majority, the economy and the goodwill in 2010?

I've said it here as a firm believer in a 3 party system I believe that the COP could have held their line as elected MPs and by 2015 be a 3rd party.

So the cry of dictatorship isn't supported by the numbers or actual history.

There are not enough PNM till a ded to win any election.

It's up to the opposing parties to beat the PNM.

For a bunch of people that whine about blaming Kamla, you guys sure love to blame the PNM for everything on last 1000 years of world history.

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