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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby mero » May 16th, 2022, 12:10 pm

zoom rader wrote:
adnj wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Once again secret land grab for red government scammers.

People getting land for farming and knows nutting about dirt.

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/mark-sl ... a23404b7c9


Soon they'll know more than most that I see. Successful applicants are also required to complete a two year agricultural program at UWI.

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“Year 1 will offer comprehensive training in crop production and animal husbandry.  On completion, successful trainees will gain access to land, technical and financial support, to prepare for the second year of training,” the Minister explained.

He added: “Year 2 will offer practical training on the land assigned to each trainee.  On completion of Year 2, successful trainees will move on to become land lease holders and graduate as a new 21st century farmer.”

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/applica ... 7d574c93a2

YAHP, a programme of the Ministry of Youth Development and National Service, is open to young women and men between the ages of 18 and 35. It is an agricultural training programme intended to equip young people with the skills to become successful 21st century agribusiness entrepreneurs. Year 1 will offer comprehensive training in crop production and animal husbandry. On completion, successful trainees will gain access to land, technical and financial support, to prepare for the second year of training. Year 2 will offer practical training on the land assigned to each trainee. On completion of year 2, successful trainees would move to become land lease holders and graduate as a new 21st century farmer.

https://mydns.gov.tt/media/releases/app ... programme/
Let's see how they pass their exams if any.

We all know that red government people are not suited for the farming industry. It is not in their blood or work ethics. Which one of them will wake at 4.00am to tend to livestock or carry produce to market.

Square pegs in round holes

This same scam was done in the early 1980s for the dairy framers. One set of red government non injun people got lands and monies to set up fake daily industries. All failed, this was up in wallerfeild
I tort allyuh say modern Injun don't don't like hot sun and hard work.

They not studying Armani exchange, faux hawks, skinny jeans and high colah venes?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » May 16th, 2022, 12:49 pm

mero wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
adnj wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Once again secret land grab for red government scammers.

People getting land for farming and knows nutting about dirt.

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/mark-sl ... a23404b7c9


Soon they'll know more than most that I see. Successful applicants are also required to complete a two year agricultural program at UWI.

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“Year 1 will offer comprehensive training in crop production and animal husbandry.  On completion, successful trainees will gain access to land, technical and financial support, to prepare for the second year of training,” the Minister explained.

He added: “Year 2 will offer practical training on the land assigned to each trainee.  On completion of Year 2, successful trainees will move on to become land lease holders and graduate as a new 21st century farmer.”

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/applica ... 7d574c93a2

YAHP, a programme of the Ministry of Youth Development and National Service, is open to young women and men between the ages of 18 and 35. It is an agricultural training programme intended to equip young people with the skills to become successful 21st century agribusiness entrepreneurs. Year 1 will offer comprehensive training in crop production and animal husbandry. On completion, successful trainees will gain access to land, technical and financial support, to prepare for the second year of training. Year 2 will offer practical training on the land assigned to each trainee. On completion of year 2, successful trainees would move to become land lease holders and graduate as a new 21st century farmer.

https://mydns.gov.tt/media/releases/app ... programme/
Let's see how they pass their exams if any.

We all know that red government people are not suited for the farming industry. It is not in their blood or work ethics. Which one of them will wake at 4.00am to tend to livestock or carry produce to market.

Square pegs in round holes

This same scam was done in the early 1980s for the dairy framers. One set of red government non injun people got lands and monies to set up fake daily industries. All failed, this was up in wallerfeild
I tort allyuh say modern Injun don't don't like hot sun and hard work.

They not studying Armani exchange, faux hawks, skinny jeans and high colah venes?
Some injun like the agri wuk jus as red government folk joins gangs and fill up the jails at tax payers expense

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Postby bluefete » May 16th, 2022, 3:44 pm

^^ By the time they done "capitalize" that, all de morney DONE!

Ferris Bueller's family enterprise will be the chief beneficiary of the "capitalization".

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.. Any who....
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Postby pugboy » May 16th, 2022, 6:01 pm

so what happens if you get your piece of land and dont follow through with the agri program ?

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Postby zoom rader » May 16th, 2022, 7:03 pm

pugboy wrote:so what happens if you get your piece of land and dont follow through with the agri program ?
You build apartments to voter padd

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Postby zoom rader » May 16th, 2022, 7:03 pm

sMASH wrote:.. Any who....
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Idiots vote for dat

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby bluefete » May 16th, 2022, 7:18 pm

Imbert: We have not borrowed money for 5 months!

Tell me whether to laugh or cry.

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Postby timelapse » May 16th, 2022, 7:31 pm

zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:i eh goh broad brush dem so... but, the admins NEEEED to weed out who willing and able from who just want to zess, as soon as its obvious, to not waste resources on failure.
gee dem ah chance, but dont waste time.
The red government have given lands and monies to red government non farmers and it all failed before.

Wallerfeid dairy all failed
Mega farms failed.

People who have been in farming for generations are bypass cause they appear to be yellow

These red government non farmers are just there to grab the lands, grants, monies and tax free vehicles under agricultural

Its a scam
Sad but very true.That being said,injuns had a chance under PP to get agricultural land from the ex caroni fields.No farming, but people selling the lands without even having deeds at the time.Rum and liming was more important


Caroni workers got lands in the middle of nowhere. They waited over 20years for it. The red government was hoping they would have died by then.

How are you supposed to farm if you don't have stable roads or access to water and electricity. Caroni Cane lands had mud traces that cannot be used in the rainy season.

All the prime lands where water and roads were available were used to house pad and given out to red government bigshitts.

Stop spreading misleading information
I not making this up.I have seen plenty of this in central.Men sell out their Caroni lot.One of them by me built a parlour with the money, another one bought a backhoe,a good few of them drink every cent away.There were plenty of these lots for sale in the last decade, and prime real estate.I know plenty people that bought also.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » May 16th, 2022, 9:11 pm

timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:i eh goh broad brush dem so... but, the admins NEEEED to weed out who willing and able from who just want to zess, as soon as its obvious, to not waste resources on failure.
gee dem ah chance, but dont waste time.
The red government have given lands and monies to red government non farmers and it all failed before.

Wallerfeid dairy all failed
Mega farms failed.

People who have been in farming for generations are bypass cause they appear to be yellow

These red government non farmers are just there to grab the lands, grants, monies and tax free vehicles under agricultural

Its a scam
Sad but very true.That being said,injuns had a chance under PP to get agricultural land from the ex caroni fields.No farming, but people selling the lands without even having deeds at the time.Rum and liming was more important


Caroni workers got lands in the middle of nowhere. They waited over 20years for it. The red government was hoping they would have died by then.

How are you supposed to farm if you don't have stable roads or access to water and electricity. Caroni Cane lands had mud traces that cannot be used in the rainy season.

All the prime lands where water and roads were available were used to house pad and given out to red government bigshitts.

Stop spreading misleading information
I not making this up.I have seen plenty of this in central.Men sell out their Caroni lot.One of them by me built a parlour with the money, another one bought a backhoe,a good few of them drink every cent away.There were plenty of these lots for sale in the last decade, and prime real estate.I know plenty people that bought also.
Bullshitt

Caroni workers never got lots, they got 2 acres of land
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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » May 16th, 2022, 9:33 pm

So pnm lost arbitration to OAS Construction for TTD 1 billion?

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Postby bluefete » May 16th, 2022, 9:34 pm

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby timelapse » May 16th, 2022, 9:55 pm

zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:i eh goh broad brush dem so... but, the admins NEEEED to weed out who willing and able from who just want to zess, as soon as its obvious, to not waste resources on failure.
gee dem ah chance, but dont waste time.
The red government have given lands and monies to red government non farmers and it all failed before.

Wallerfeid dairy all failed
Mega farms failed.

People who have been in farming for generations are bypass cause they appear to be yellow

These red government non farmers are just there to grab the lands, grants, monies and tax free vehicles under agricultural

Its a scam
Sad but very true.That being said,injuns had a chance under PP to get agricultural land from the ex caroni fields.No farming, but people selling the lands without even having deeds at the time.Rum and liming was more important


Caroni workers got lands in the middle of nowhere. They waited over 20years for it. The red government was hoping they would have died by then.

How are you supposed to farm if you don't have stable roads or access to water and electricity. Caroni Cane lands had mud traces that cannot be used in the rainy season.

All the prime lands where water and roads were available were used to house pad and given out to red government bigshitts.

Stop spreading misleading information
I not making this up.I have seen plenty of this in central.Men sell out their Caroni lot.One of them by me built a parlour with the money, another one bought a backhoe,a good few of them drink every cent away.There were plenty of these lots for sale in the last decade, and prime real estate.I know plenty people that bought also.
Bullshitt

Caroni walker never got lots, they got 2 acres of land
They got house lots too.Check your facts.
http://www.news.gov.tt/content/update-vsep-ex-caroni-workers#.YoMAq1gpCNw
You doh get tired being wrong and carrying on like a know-it-all?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » May 16th, 2022, 10:00 pm

timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:i eh goh broad brush dem so... but, the admins NEEEED to weed out who willing and able from who just want to zess, as soon as its obvious, to not waste resources on failure.
gee dem ah chance, but dont waste time.
The red government have given lands and monies to red government non farmers and it all failed before.

Wallerfeid dairy all failed
Mega farms failed.

People who have been in farming for generations are bypass cause they appear to be yellow

These red government non farmers are just there to grab the lands, grants, monies and tax free vehicles under agricultural

Its a scam
Sad but very true.That being said,injuns had a chance under PP to get agricultural land from the ex caroni fields.No farming, but people selling the lands without even having deeds at the time.Rum and liming was more important


Caroni workers got lands in the middle of nowhere. They waited over 20years for it. The red government was hoping they would have died by then.

How are you supposed to farm if you don't have stable roads or access to water and electricity. Caroni Cane lands had mud traces that cannot be used in the rainy season.

All the prime lands where water and roads were available were used to house pad and given out to red government bigshitts.

Stop spreading misleading information
I not making this up.I have seen plenty of this in central.Men sell out their Caroni lot.One of them by me built a parlour with the money, another one bought a backhoe,a good few of them drink every cent away.There were plenty of these lots for sale in the last decade, and prime real estate.I know plenty people that bought also.
Bullshitt

Caroni walker never got lots, they got 2 acres of land
They got house lots too.Check your facts.
http://www.news.gov.tt/content/update-vsep-ex-caroni-workers#.YoMAq1gpCNw
You doh get tired being wrong and carrying on like a know-it-all?
No they did not , stop spreading lies

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » May 16th, 2022, 10:41 pm

Imbee son like he does take good pipe

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » May 16th, 2022, 10:49 pm

they got housing lots AS WELL as 2 acres. i dont think that was across the board, where it was standard for all workers. but the ones i know, get agri plots as well as housing lots.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » May 16th, 2022, 11:30 pm

Study OAS who bankrupt win arbitration against the pnm

Approx TTD 1 b...b...b...billion dollars

note... partial final award :shock:

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Postby daring dragoon » May 17th, 2022, 5:23 am

Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley has revealed that someone had cemented the water valve at the official residence of the Prime Minister in St Ann's so that no water would enter the compound, apparently paving the way for someone to get a lucrative water-delivery contract under the previous Government.

Dr Rowley made the disclosure as he spoke during debate on a motion to adopt the report of the Standing Finance Committee, seeking to extend budgetary spending by $3.8 billion.

He said that after moving into the official residence, he could not understand why there was difficulty in getting water and decided to call WASA for an explanation.

The Prime Minister said WASA's investigation found that the valve that controlled the flow of water into the compound had been cemented shut, cutting off supply.

He told the House of Representatives that, instead, a contract had existed to pay someone tens of thousands of dollars to bring water via trucks every day to the Prime Minister's residence.



7 years after UNC was in govt and this MC blak baldhead dotish PM still blaming kamla. only an fool will follow this man yes.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby matr1x » May 17th, 2022, 6:29 am

Show me anyone who got covid relief from the fund

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Postby hover11 » May 17th, 2022, 7:20 am

I have asked where the millions we received in covid relief how that magically disappeared...

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Postby timelapse » May 17th, 2022, 7:30 am

hover11 wrote:I have asked where the millions we received in covid relief how that magically disappeared...
Tobago hotels...

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » May 17th, 2022, 7:34 am

Ministry of agriculture had 500m allocated fur pandemic, and only 30m or so was spent.

Where the rest?

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Postby sMASH » May 17th, 2022, 7:38 am

kick out tt wrote:PNMite exposes party's dirty secrets
Sunday 1st October, 2006
Sunday Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.tt/archives/2006 ... news8.html
Dr Sharon Ann Gopaul-McNicol unsuccessfully fought the St Joseph constituency for the ruling People’s National Movement in 2002, during which she sung the praises of the PNM.
Today, this psychologist who has authored 13 books and is an adviser to Trade Minister Kenneth Valley, is singing a very sour note on the PNM.
She is accusing the PNM of doing nothing about racism and child sexual molestation in the party.
Q: Dr Gopaul-McNicol, are you prepared for the negative personal consequences that could befall you as a result of going public on some rather unflattering aspects of your party, the ruling People’s National Movement?
A: Clevon, yes. Oh, I know the usual things they would say like: ‘We will get you if you speak against us;’ ‘We will reveal this or that about you,’ and ‘She ain’t no true true PNM’
You have no cocoa in the sun?
[In the living room at her Federation Park home on Thursday morning]. My hands are clean and, in fact, a thorough investigation was conducted on me prior to my being selected as a PNM candidate for the 2002 general election, and they came up with nothing negative whatsoever.
So you feel free to tell it like it is without any fear of a backlash?
And that is why I feel free to do what I am doing today... telling the truth as I see it.
But if there is any political reprisal for speaking out against illegal acts of any kind, then politics, indeed, has its own morality, a statement made by Mr Panday, with which the PNM vehemently disagrees.
OK. Do you wish to start with this matter of racism you told me being manifested in the PNM?
[A serious countenance]. Yes. In all my 21 years of living abroad, (she returned home in 2002) I heard about racism, but I only experienced it live when I returned to my own country.
There was a constituency meeting (St Joseph election) of the PNM in 2004, where I saw a female group of Trinis of East Indian descent being blocked from entering the door.
They were told by female PNM stalwarts: “We taking back we party from all you Indo Trinis.”
Oh, really?
Yes. I witnessed an Indian woman being forced to duck under the hands of these women to get back to the door and outside the building. One woman fainted, another sustained a deep cut on her ankle when she was pushed out the door and fell to the floor.
These things allegedly happened in 2004; why did you wait until only now to come forward with this terrible matter?
[A deep frown]. Clevon, because there is an investigative process in the PNM. We reported this incident immediately as it happened in 2004. In March, 2005, they launched an investigation and nothing, [emphasising this word] nothing came out of it.
In other words, your patience has run out?
Yes. And what is even worse is that unfortunately, it happened again recently at the same site, but this time the perpetrators engaged in a different strategy.
How?
They verbally harassed the women before they even entered the compound outside in the yard when they were attempting to park.
When you bring down a government on the basis of corruption, there should be zero tolerance for any kind of corruption in your own organisation.
Did you report this to the party’s leadership?
Yes. An investigation was launched, but as I said, nothing has been said about the incidents—not even an acknowledgement—nor were the perpetrators asked to apologise.
Based on the inconclusive resolution of this issue, I am forced to believe that there is no willingness to address this racial situation in the PNM.
Why are you so upset over this particular matter?
Simple, Clevon. Racism is the worst of the social diseases and the one that can lead a society right on the road to self-destruction.
Before starting this interview, Dr Gopaul-McNicol, you were telling me about a ten per cent concept. Can you elaborate on this?
Yes. To put it as succinctly as I can with your limited space, [deep breath] it was felt by the black elite in America in the 1940s to early 1950s, that in order to best address the needs of their community, it was first necessary to limit the professional, economic and educational opportunities for the majority—90 per cent.
And?
In other words, they had to manage the majority of people, and to do that, they had to ensure that only ten per cent of the blacks attained real economic, professional and educational success, because if too many people attained success, there would be too many demands on the public purse.
A number of Caribbean scholars, who later became political leaders in their respective countries, were educated in America, including our first prime minister Dr Eric Williams, and most likely were part of these discussions.
What are you getting at?
[A broad smile]. Many of them may have well endorsed this type of thinking. The bottom line is the result is, indeed, the same, whether it is called welfare or URP.
Wait! Are you subtly referring to the Cepep and URP, which critics have accused the party of deliberately implementing to keep that section of the PNM supporters in a dependency state?
[Resolute tone]. Exactly. URP was supposed to temporarily alleviate unemployment, but it has now become a crippling effect on this society and has created a sense of dependency on the ruling party.
Imagine people killing each other for $500 every two weeks, and now this smart card thing like food stamps. But while they sound good, think about it.
This thing getting really nice, eh?
What are the eligibility criteria for this? A person must make less than $1,000, I believe, and they must have a certain amount of family members to support.
This is the politics of disempowerment versus empowerment.
Once you have poor people, they would never be able to question you, because they are not independent.
Dr Gopaul-McNicol, I understand you are not exactly an easy one, and that you did have some trouble with the constituency executive that was suspended sometime ago?
[A mischievous smile]. That is true—the problems with the executive, that is—and we call them the gang of eight.
It started with the gang of eight who, because of principled positions I took on the distribution of funds and issues of child molestation, I was expected to be silent and I said no. We are going to bring them out and address them.
Hold it, Dr Gopaul-McNicol. Child molestation?
Yes. In the constituency, and we were told to leave it alone.
Who told you that and how long ago?
Right now, I am not going to disclose it, but I dare anyone to tell me I am not speaking the truth, and I will reveal that information at the appropriate time.
Sexual?
Sexual.
Girls on girls, or boys on boys, or men on boys ?
Mainly men on boys. Top-level persons, and being a psychologist, I am privileged to have inside information and it seems to be a problem which has spanned the entire spectrum of our country.
If parents can get the affected to open up and share their experiences, that will be a good thing for this country, because politicians are also involved in this sordid situation.
As we close this little talk, Dr Gopaul-McNicol, I repeat: Are you sure you are prepared for the attacks that may come your way?
My understanding is that retaliation and vindictiveness are part of the whole political process in this country, and so I expect anything to happen, be it PNM or UNC.
The Prime Minister’s sister, Dr Petronella Manning-Alleyne, has been critical of the health sector, and she was praised as being courageous in coming forward with her observations.
So let’s see if the whistle-blower syndrome applies differently to me.
This final question, which I am sure would hold the attention of your PNM colleagues and detractors alike: what is your opinion of Winston Dookeran’s Congress of the People?
[Adjusting some papers on her table]. I have not read their policy yet, but I have heard about their political policy, which we desperately need.
I also happen to have lot of respect for Mr Dookeran. And I would like you to write that.
As a person who has been following his career for 21 years, he seems to be a person with integrity...
I am glad that someone of that nature is at the helm of that organisation.
If you are expelled, victimised ostracised, marginalised, or any kind of “ised” [laughs], would you look for a political home in COP, UNC, or whatever?
[Still laughing]. I will tell you this. I am not married, unlike many people, who’re married to a political organisation. I am married to my country, so if it is that the PNM is not the best political vehicle because of its refusal to accept its failed and flawed systems within; its refusal to protect the young people and to bring about equity in race relations, I am comfortable in saying I will seek an alternative political unit.
The point is, I will not will stay in a corrupt environment.




i remember some big pnm woman, come out on a morning show and talking about pedophile ring in the pnm.. that segment cut short, and normally they would re run the morning show inthe evening, so i didnt bother to remember who and what, would come back in the evening and get the whole thing and details. that episode was not rerun, had some other ting played in its place.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » May 17th, 2022, 7:46 am

sMASH wrote:Ministry of agriculture had 500m allocated fur pandemic, and only 30m or so was spent.

Where the rest?
What they have to show for the 30 M

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Postby hover11 » May 17th, 2022, 7:54 am

Everything in impsbert speech will be of no consequence to the citizens who cannot pay bills, taxi fares, buy a full tank of gas, afford a mortgage or buy food. “1 billion plus profit” is a drip in the oil well compared to what BP and Shell etc is stealing while red government politicians are playing tic tac toe with a economy pegged on whether oil prices look good one day or the other and importing instead of refining and therefore the cause of foreign exchange shortages. Short term feel good policies can only last so long especially when you are clueless . Feel good about paying bills that should naturally be paid and giving your big business friends vat rebates etc, it will not save you come Election Day.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » May 17th, 2022, 7:58 am

hover11 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Ministry of agriculture had 500m allocated fur pandemic, and only 30m or so was spent.

Where the rest?
What they have to show for the 30 M

a chunk was the market bag program... the figure of how many bags they gave out and the cost of the bags, was like 18m or sumting at the time.

they had some financiers do the purchasing from farmers, and then supplied the market program. so, some people just got a cut for being middle men.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Chimera » May 17th, 2022, 8:04 am

sMASH wrote:
hover11 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Ministry of agriculture had 500m allocated fur pandemic, and only 30m or so was spent.

Where the rest?
What they have to show for the 30 M

a chunk was the market bag program... the figure of how many bags they gave out and the cost of the bags, was like 18m or sumting at the time.

they had some financiers do the purchasing from farmers, and then supplied the market program. so, some people just got a cut for being middle men.
And then they took 2 to 4 months to pay the farmers who gave them the produce.

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