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Habit7 wrote:The issue is not which political party in power because it seems that ppl have "short memories" to realise that the same Moruga road had potholes and landslides under past govts.
Firstly, the soil type south of the central range is prone to landslides so you could pave until the cows come home and there will still be landslides
Secondly, in other countries, they have a tax regime to finance the fixing of roads. In TT we mostly depend on taxes from O&G to do everything. Despite popular opinion, TT taxes are very low, one of the lowest in the region. As O&G revenues are becoming less dependable, we need to have a new method of financing road maintenance among other things. But we are in a culture where ppl don't want to pay more taxes and they still want to receive high subsidies.
Until a govt can develop a way of financing efficient road maintenance, we are in the same monkey pants, PNM or UNC.
I disagree, I use to live St Mary's and it was only when UNC came in to power they did a massive amount of work to repair landslips that has plagued the Moruga main road. When the present government came back in it was back to how it was with no maintenance or repair As for road taxes the Moruga road is a MAIN road and it should not depend on local government for repairs . Secondary roads I can understand that those should fall under local government . Again why are we paying house taxes if our Secondary roads are not repaired. I just don't understand how much more taxes we should bare to be wasted. The government does not account for the tax money they spend. It is off little of no services and repairs. Why must be wait to see roads repairs a month or two before elections. Why must we keep comparing to what the other carribean counties pay in taxes? Those countries are not fully developed. If anything we should be comparing ourselves to Singapore and not corrupted carribean counties.Habit7 wrote:The issue is not which political party in power because it seems that ppl have "short memories" to realise that the same Moruga road had potholes and landslides under past govts.
Firstly, the soil type south of the central range is prone to landslides so you could pave until the cows come home and there will still be landslides
Secondly, in other countries, they have a tax regime to finance the fixing of roads. In TT we mostly depend on taxes from O&G to do everything. Despite popular opinion, TT taxes are very low, one of the lowest in the region. As O&G revenues are becoming less dependable, we need to have a new method of financing road maintenance among other things. But we are in a culture where ppl don't want to pay more taxes and they still want to receive high subsidies.
Until a govt can develop a way of financing efficient road maintenance, we are in the same monkey pants, PNM or UNC.
Kickstart wrote:I disagree, I use to live St Mary's and it was only when UNC came in to power they did a massive amount of work to repair landslips that has plagued the Moruga main road. When the present government came back in it was back to how it was with no maintenance or repair As for road taxes the Moruga road is a MAIN road and it should not depend on local government for repairs . Secondary roads I can understand that those should fall under local government . Again why are we paying house taxes if our Secondary roads are not repaired. I just don't understand how much more taxes we should bare to be wasted. The government does not account for the tax money they spend. It is off little of no services and repairs. Why must be wait to see roads repairs a month or two before elections. Why must we keep comparing to what the other carribean counties pay in taxes? Those countries are not fully developed. If anything we should be comparing ourselves to Singapore and not corrupted carribean counties.Habit7 wrote:The issue is not which political party in power because it seems that ppl have "short memories" to realise that the same Moruga road had potholes and landslides under past govts.
Firstly, the soil type south of the central range is prone to landslides so you could pave until the cows come home and there will still be landslides
Secondly, in other countries, they have a tax regime to finance the fixing of roads. In TT we mostly depend on taxes from O&G to do everything. Despite popular opinion, TT taxes are very low, one of the lowest in the region. As O&G revenues are becoming less dependable, we need to have a new method of financing road maintenance among other things. But we are in a culture where ppl don't want to pay more taxes and they still want to receive high subsidies.
Until a govt can develop a way of financing efficient road maintenance, we are in the same monkey pants, PNM or UNC.
Habit7 wrote:The issue is not which political party in power because it seems that ppl have "short memories" to realise that the same Moruga road had potholes and landslides under past govts.
Firstly, the soil type south of the central range is prone to landslides so you could pave until the cows come home and there will still be landslides
Secondly, in other countries, they have a tax regime to finance the fixing of roads. In TT we mostly depend on taxes from O&G to do everything. Despite popular opinion, TT taxes are very low, one of the lowest in the region. As O&G revenues are becoming less dependable, we need to have a new method of financing road maintenance among other things. But we are in a culture where ppl don't want to pay more taxes and they still want to receive high subsidies.
Until a govt can develop a way of financing efficient road maintenance, we are in the same monkey pants, PNM or UNC.
elec2020 wrote:Habit7 wrote:The issue is not which political party in power because it seems that ppl have "short memories" to realise that the same Moruga road had potholes and landslides under past govts.
Firstly, the soil type south of the central range is prone to landslides so you could pave until the cows come home and there will still be landslides
Secondly, in other countries, they have a tax regime to finance the fixing of roads. In TT we mostly depend on taxes from O&G to do everything. Despite popular opinion, TT taxes are very low, one of the lowest in the region. As O&G revenues are becoming less dependable, we need to have a new method of financing road maintenance among other things. But we are in a culture where ppl don't want to pay more taxes and they still want to receive high subsidies.
Until a govt can develop a way of financing efficient road maintenance, we are in the same monkey pants, PNM or UNC.
i think the issue is that we have outgrown pnm and unc and we need a new forward thinking government that is not afraid to do what needs to be done to get us back on track. even if that risks them losing the next GE. that is what we need. but will not get till its way toooo late
Win to do what? Fix all the PNM mess being created right now?SuperiorMan wrote:Tuner Friends,
When do you all think UNC will win again?
wtf wrote:Win to do what? Fix all the PNM mess being created right now?SuperiorMan wrote:Tuner Friends,
When do you all think UNC will win again?
This country in sh!t right now. Saw two stores moving out from a mall in sando today because they can't make the rent.
Habit7 wrote:elec2020 wrote:Habit7 wrote:The issue is not which political party in power because it seems that ppl have "short memories" to realise that the same Moruga road had potholes and landslides under past govts.
Firstly, the soil type south of the central range is prone to landslides so you could pave until the cows come home and there will still be landslides
Secondly, in other countries, they have a tax regime to finance the fixing of roads. In TT we mostly depend on taxes from O&G to do everything. Despite popular opinion, TT taxes are very low, one of the lowest in the region. As O&G revenues are becoming less dependable, we need to have a new method of financing road maintenance among other things. But we are in a culture where ppl don't want to pay more taxes and they still want to receive high subsidies.
Until a govt can develop a way of financing efficient road maintenance, we are in the same monkey pants, PNM or UNC.
i think the issue is that we have outgrown pnm and unc and we need a new forward thinking government that is not afraid to do what needs to be done to get us back on track. even if that risks them losing the next GE. that is what we need. but will not get till its way toooo late
We did that in 1986. Gave PNM the worst licks ever. NAR had a cadre of technocrats and professionals. But what they didn't have a loyal base that would trust them to implement the changes that needed to be done. So it was easy for their ardent supporters to go against them when they implemented VAT and cancelled COLA.
Our democracy is not much different from others around the globe. We are a two-party system with smaller parties. It makes no sense waiting for somebody else to come along. They will either be some kinda rebranded UNC because, for all the faults of PNM, they are stable and least likely to fall apart.
SuperiorMan wrote:wtf wrote:Win to do what? Fix all the PNM mess being created right now?SuperiorMan wrote:Tuner Friends,
When do you all think UNC will win again?
This country in sh!t right now. Saw two stores moving out from a mall in sando today because they can't make the rent.
wtf, do you think things would get better if UNC wins?
which mall? gulf city?
Habit7 wrote:SuperiorMan wrote:wtf wrote:Win to do what? Fix all the PNM mess being created right now?SuperiorMan wrote:Tuner Friends,
When do you all think UNC will win again?
This country in sh!t right now. Saw two stores moving out from a mall in sando today because they can't make the rent.
wtf, do you think things would get better if UNC wins?
which mall? gulf city?
Malls were suffering before covid. has nothing to do with PNM or UNC. It is an international trend as retail goes more online and less brick and mortar stores.
But if that is too complicated for you, just say blame Rowley.
But you stated that malls are filled as with price mart. Why change your story now?Habit7 wrote:SuperiorMan wrote:wtf wrote:Win to do what? Fix all the PNM mess being created right now?SuperiorMan wrote:Tuner Friends,
When do you all think UNC will win again?
This country in sh!t right now. Saw two stores moving out from a mall in sando today because they can't make the rent.
wtf, do you think things would get better if UNC wins?
which mall? gulf city?
Malls were suffering before covid. has nothing to do with PNM or UNC. It is an international trend as retail goes more online and less brick and mortar stores.
But if that is too complicated for you, just say blame Rowley.
I don't mind paying higher taxes if I get the services for it. I pay taxes and I don't see where the money goes. We are not getting value for our taxes paid. Nothing is accountable for our taxes, all we told is to pay more and we haven't protested yet as MP Imbert said. I think his statement is a great disrespect for tax payers and playing games.Habit7 wrote:Kickstart wrote:I disagree, I use to live St Mary's and it was only when UNC came in to power they did a massive amount of work to repair landslips that has plagued the Moruga main road. When the present government came back in it was back to how it was with no maintenance or repair As for road taxes the Moruga road is a MAIN road and it should not depend on local government for repairs . Secondary roads I can understand that those should fall under local government . Again why are we paying house taxes if our Secondary roads are not repaired. I just don't understand how much more taxes we should bare to be wasted. The government does not account for the tax money they spend. It is off little of no services and repairs. Why must be wait to see roads repairs a month or two before elections. Why must we keep comparing to what the other carribean counties pay in taxes? Those countries are not fully developed. If anything we should be comparing ourselves to Singapore and not corrupted carribean counties.Habit7 wrote:The issue is not which political party in power because it seems that ppl have "short memories" to realise that the same Moruga road had potholes and landslides under past govts.
Firstly, the soil type south of the central range is prone to landslides so you could pave until the cows come home and there will still be landslides
Secondly, in other countries, they have a tax regime to finance the fixing of roads. In TT we mostly depend on taxes from O&G to do everything. Despite popular opinion, TT taxes are very low, one of the lowest in the region. As O&G revenues are becoming less dependable, we need to have a new method of financing road maintenance among other things. But we are in a culture where ppl don't want to pay more taxes and they still want to receive high subsidies.
Until a govt can develop a way of financing efficient road maintenance, we are in the same monkey pants, PNM or UNC.
There has been maintenance, even the UNC MP admitted it in the article, it just was not completed.
We have not paid "house tax" since 2009
There are several Caribbean countries with similar development to TT, you need to actually visit them for yourself. And by region, I meant Latin America too.
If you want Singapore, then pay 2-3x the price of car compared to TT, then you will have smooth roads like them because that is what their taxes require.
Kickstart wrote:But you stated that malls are filled as with price mart. Why change your story now?
Kickstart wrote:I don't mind paying higher taxes if I get the services for it. I pay taxes and I don't see where the money goes. We are not getting value for our taxes paid. Nothing is accountable for our taxes, all we told is to pay more and we haven't protested yet as MP Imbert said. I think his statement is a great disrespect for tax payers and playing games.
Epic back pedalHabit7 wrote:Kickstart wrote:But you stated that malls are filled as with price mart. Why change your story now?
Context.
I was responding to someone who was saying that South Trinidad economy was destroyed by the closure of the refinery. And coming out of Christmas I said the groceries and the malls were filled in South. But retail is one of the several things you can do in malls, that is declining. PNM or UNC can't change that.Kickstart wrote:I don't mind paying higher taxes if I get the services for it. I pay taxes and I don't see where the money goes. We are not getting value for our taxes paid. Nothing is accountable for our taxes, all we told is to pay more and we haven't protested yet as MP Imbert said. I think his statement is a great disrespect for tax payers and playing games.
Your little taxes are going into your subsidised utilities (water, electricity), your garbage collection, ferry transport, free healthcare, free education, free highways and many other things. If you don't see where it is going that is subjective. MoF publishes expenditure reports and the Auditor General points out the wastes and inconsistencies.
Nevertheless, you still pay one of the lowest taxes in Latin American and the Caribbean, don't expect Canada level service.
SuperiorMan wrote:Tuner Friends,
When do you all think UNC will win again?
The_Honourable wrote:SuperiorMan wrote:Tuner Friends,
When do you all think UNC will win again?
It's normal in democracies for governments to change so to answer your question, yes they will.
In it's current form? No. UNC was on a loosing streak with Panday since 2002 and once he was removed, UNC won (in a partnership). Kamla is in the same position now as Panday in the 2000s... loss after loss and not leaving while the supporters are not seeing anybody else beyond the current leader.
PNM doing chit and most of the population don't respect Rowley but UNC still have the stains of their 2010-2015 governance whether it was real for example SIS or fake, like emailgate.
Kickstart wrote:Epic back pedal
SuperiorMan wrote:The_Honourable wrote:SuperiorMan wrote:Tuner Friends,
When do you all think UNC will win again?
It's normal in democracies for governments to change so to answer your question, yes they will.
In it's current form? No. UNC was on a loosing streak with Panday since 2002 and once he was removed, UNC won (in a partnership). Kamla is in the same position now as Panday in the 2000s... loss after loss and not leaving while the supporters are not seeing anybody else beyond the current leader.
PNM doing chit and most of the population don't respect Rowley but UNC still have the stains of their 2010-2015 governance whether it was real for example SIS or fake, like emailgate.
Thanks for your response The_Honourable.
I was asking when you think they will win again....do you think the next election once they get rid of Kamla?
The economy is not stimulated , people are not spending and it is not due toHabit7 wrote:Kickstart wrote:Epic back pedal
No, let me make it simple for you.
Me pointing to one mall at one time doesn't counter the universal trend of malls declining because of online shopping. If tomorrow C3 Movie Towne is full because ppl come to watch Mortal Kombat, that does not mean the cinemas are not declining during covid-19.
SuperiorMan wrote:The_Honourable wrote:SuperiorMan wrote:Tuner Friends,
When do you all think UNC will win again?
It's normal in democracies for governments to change so to answer your question, yes they will.
In it's current form? No. UNC was on a loosing streak with Panday since 2002 and once he was removed, UNC won (in a partnership). Kamla is in the same position now as Panday in the 2000s... loss after loss and not leaving while the supporters are not seeing anybody else beyond the current leader.
PNM doing chit and most of the population don't respect Rowley but UNC still have the stains of their 2010-2015 governance whether it was real for example SIS or fake, like emailgate.
Thanks for your response The_Honourable.
I was asking when you think they will win again....do you think the next election once they get rid of Kamla?
Kickstart wrote:The economy is not stimulated , people are not spending and it is not due toHabit7 wrote:Kickstart wrote:Epic back pedal
No, let me make it simple for you.
Me pointing to one mall at one time doesn't counter the universal trend of malls declining because of online shopping. If tomorrow C3 Movie Towne is full because ppl come to watch Mortal Kombat, that does not mean the cinemas are not declining during covid-19.
Covid. The measures put in place by the government is not working both in forex and the local economy.
Habit7 wrote:Kickstart wrote:The economy is not stimulated , people are not spending and it is not due toHabit7 wrote:Kickstart wrote:Epic back pedal
No, let me make it simple for you.
Me pointing to one mall at one time doesn't counter the universal trend of malls declining because of online shopping. If tomorrow C3 Movie Towne is full because ppl come to watch Mortal Kombat, that does not mean the cinemas are not declining during covid-19.
Covid. The measures put in place by the government is not working both in forex and the local economy.
Ok economist.
I am sure you have a plan to revive mall shopping too.
Kickstart wrote:
Lets see a tax was placed on online shopping because
i. of forex
ii. local powerful businessmen complained that online shopping affecting their sales.
so these measures are put in place but what has that caused ? and dont blame Covid as this was way before Covid.
The economy is not looking good and the measures in place is not working. People are just not spending
Kickstart wrote:Habit7 wrote:Kickstart wrote:The economy is not stimulated , people are not spending and it is not due toHabit7 wrote:Kickstart wrote:Epic back pedal
No, let me make it simple for you.
Me pointing to one mall at one time doesn't counter the universal trend of malls declining because of online shopping. If tomorrow C3 Movie Towne is full because ppl come to watch Mortal Kombat, that does not mean the cinemas are not declining during covid-19.
Covid. The measures put in place by the government is not working both in forex and the local economy.
Ok economist.
I am sure you have a plan to revive mall shopping too.
Lets see a tax was placed on online shopping because
i. of forex
ii. local powerful businessmen complained that online shopping affecting their sales.
so these measures are put in place but what has that caused ? and dont blame Covid as this was way before Covid.
The economy is not looking good and the measures in place is not working. People are just not spending
For the last time the cause of this bad economy is not due to covid. It is the policies put in place by the government. They are shifting the blame on covid when in fact its their own policies , taxation and lost of job that is the root causeHabit7 wrote:Kickstart wrote:
Lets see a tax was placed on online shopping because
i. of forex
ii. local powerful businessmen complained that online shopping affecting their sales.
so these measures are put in place but what has that caused ? and dont blame Covid as this was way before Covid.
The economy is not looking good and the measures in place is not working. People are just not spending
This was before covid https://oxfordbusinessgroup.com/news/wh ... -forecasts
As I pointed out before on some other lament thread, the TT economy was projected for growth, not by Imbert, but by independent international financial observers, or as some like to call them PNM.
Of course the economy is not looking good now because of covid. But 8mths ago we had a choice in who we wanted to carry us through the storm and the majority of ppl choose PNM again. So things are not going to turn around in a day, stop whining and lamenting and just deal with what T&T and the majority of world countries are facing right now.
Kickstart wrote:For the last time the cause of this bad economy is not due to covid. It is the policies put in place by the government. They are shifting the blame on covid when in fact its their own policies , taxation and lost of job that is the root causeHabit7 wrote:Kickstart wrote:
Lets see a tax was placed on online shopping because
i. of forex
ii. local powerful businessmen complained that online shopping affecting their sales.
so these measures are put in place but what has that caused ? and dont blame Covid as this was way before Covid.
The economy is not looking good and the measures in place is not working. People are just not spending
This was before covid https://oxfordbusinessgroup.com/news/wh ... -forecasts
As I pointed out before on some other lament thread, the TT economy was projected for growth, not by Imbert, but by independent international financial observers, or as some like to call them PNM.
Of course the economy is not looking good now because of covid. But 8mths ago we had a choice in who we wanted to carry us through the storm and the majority of ppl choose PNM again. So things are not going to turn around in a day, stop whining and lamenting and just deal with what T&T and the majority of world countries are facing right now.
As MP imbert said" they have not rioted yet" these are the new measures that they put out on test.
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