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X3000wing wrote:"Time the government runs their businesses like a real business and not a parlor."hover11 wrote:Had the Government been doing their job in which they are being paid their hefty salaries to do in the first place which involve dealing with the bargaining periods on a timely basis, we would not be in this position. Let's see what happens when police, nurses , fire and prisons don't get their increase in wages.shake d livin wake d dead wrote:That March not going to change jack sheit
Give to Ceasar, what is Ceasers'.We want our pound of flesh.
Stop throwing money at unproductive entities. Weed out the slackers and compensate based on performance. Most if not all the high performing businesses are not unionised and are in the private sector. We must treat the public sector as a business in order to get value for money as well as enable the public servant to earn as they perform.
X100000timelapse wrote:X3000wing wrote:"Time the government runs their businesses like a real business and not a parlor."hover11 wrote:Had the Government been doing their job in which they are being paid their hefty salaries to do in the first place which involve dealing with the bargaining periods on a timely basis, we would not be in this position. Let's see what happens when police, nurses , fire and prisons don't get their increase in wages.shake d livin wake d dead wrote:That March not going to change jack sheit
Give to Ceasar, what is Ceasers'.We want our pound of flesh.
Stop throwing money at unproductive entities. Weed out the slackers and compensate based on performance. Most if not all the high performing businesses are not unionised and are in the private sector. We must treat the public sector as a business in order to get value for money as well as enable the public servant to earn as they perform.
Will paying unproductive elements make them work better?I hadda be dotish to believe that.
Somebody needs to do a wasa on the public service.You not doing any work, gtfo.Especially with the amount of absentee supervisors or those old slackers that read newspapers all day.They haven't even graduated to social media as yet.
But lets not stop there.The prime minister ent wukking either.Fire him as well
hover11 wrote:Unions serve a purpose, if it was left to simple management there would be total abuse of power. Unions offer protection. However, let's not take away the fact that the government has indeed dropped the ball and allowed this unpleasant situation to fester. Their obligation was to meet with the respective unions and negotiate for every three years. It is close to 10 years and not onesalary negotiation period has been completed under this administration.It has reached the point where we are currently owed three negotiation periods. You comparing government businesses to that of private sector, let's look at Angostura who recently settled wages from 2022 to 2025 at seven percent , the government needs to increase taxes on Angostura because clearly trinis love their rum at any costs, start running your economy like a business as well.wing wrote:"Time the government runs their businesses like a real business and not a parlor."hover11 wrote:Had the Government been doing their job in which they are being paid their hefty salaries to do in the first place which involve dealing with the bargaining periods on a timely basis, we would not be in this position. Let's see what happens when police, nurses , fire and prisons don't get their increase in wages.shake d livin wake d dead wrote:That March not going to change jack sheit
Give to Ceasar, what is Ceasers'.We want our pound of flesh.
Stop throwing money at unproductive entities. Weed out the slackers and compensate based on performance. Most if not all the high performing businesses are not unionised and are in the private sector. We must treat the public sector as a business in order to get value for money as well as enable the public servant to earn as they perform.
In the words of my current prime Minister, "I don't like my money sleeping out, I want every cent that is due to me"
With that note look at the bureaucracy between that of private and public. The red tape that you need to do a simple process in a government office compared to that of private there are many factors not only lazy public servants, there are hard working servants just the system is a mess just factor in that. Public servants don't make policies simply follow them so your grievance still lies with the powers that be.matix wrote:hover11 wrote:Unions serve a purpose, if it was left to simple management there would be total abuse of power. Unions offer protection. However, let's not take away the fact that the government has indeed dropped the ball and allowed this unpleasant situation to fester. Their obligation was to meet with the respective unions and negotiate for every three years. It is close to 10 years and not onesalary negotiation period has been completed under this administration.It has reached the point where we are currently owed three negotiation periods. You comparing government businesses to that of private sector, let's look at Angostura who recently settled wages from 2022 to 2025 at seven percent , the government needs to increase taxes on Angostura because clearly trinis love their rum at any costs, start running your economy like a business as well.wing wrote:"Time the government runs their businesses like a real business and not a parlor."hover11 wrote:Had the Government been doing their job in which they are being paid their hefty salaries to do in the first place which involve dealing with the bargaining periods on a timely basis, we would not be in this position. Let's see what happens when police, nurses , fire and prisons don't get their increase in wages.shake d livin wake d dead wrote:That March not going to change jack sheit
Give to Ceasar, what is Ceasers'.We want our pound of flesh.
Stop throwing money at unproductive entities. Weed out the slackers and compensate based on performance. Most if not all the high performing businesses are not unionised and are in the private sector. We must treat the public sector as a business in order to get value for money as well as enable the public servant to earn as they perform.
In the words of my current prime Minister, "I don't like my money sleeping out, I want every cent that is due to me"
Most private sector people actually do work for their salaries, I understand your issue with salary negotiations, but face the reality. Most government workers are overpaid, underworked, always complaining, uses the facilities as if it’s their own. And I’m not asking for your approval, it’s what I’ve seen, experienced while doing maintenance on several offices. Surveys should be done on time worked vs time on social media, in the kitchen, leaving the office. From TTPS, to health, licensing, NIB, you name the office most of them are a bunch of lazy facks.
As you have said repeatedly, government needs to run its affairs like a business and not like a parlor. And fundamentally, it puts the public servants in the cross hairs. The one thing that "protects" the public servant, is the same thing that is the major problem. It encourages poor performance without accountability with the added power to hold the country to ransom... because "we want we money now". Are you willing to purge the public service of non performers like what is being considered for Wasa? Are you willing to submit to a performance based compensation package rather than the usual progression based on years employed?hover11 wrote:With that note look at the bureaucracy between that of private and public. The red tape that you need to do a simple process in a government office compared to that of private there are many factors not only lazy public servants, there are hard working servants just the system is a mess just factor in that. Public servants don't make policies simply follow them so your grievance still lies with the powers that be.matix wrote:hover11 wrote:Unions serve a purpose, if it was left to simple management there would be total abuse of power. Unions offer protection. However, let's not take away the fact that the government has indeed dropped the ball and allowed this unpleasant situation to fester. Their obligation was to meet with the respective unions and negotiate for every three years. It is close to 10 years and not onesalary negotiation period has been completed under this administration.It has reached the point where we are currently owed three negotiation periods. You comparing government businesses to that of private sector, let's look at Angostura who recently settled wages from 2022 to 2025 at seven percent , the government needs to increase taxes on Angostura because clearly trinis love their rum at any costs, start running your economy like a business as well.wing wrote:"Time the government runs their businesses like a real business and not a parlor."hover11 wrote:Had the Government been doing their job in which they are being paid their hefty salaries to do in the first place which involve dealing with the bargaining periods on a timely basis, we would not be in this position. Let's see what happens when police, nurses , fire and prisons don't get their increase in wages.shake d livin wake d dead wrote:That March not going to change jack sheit
Give to Ceasar, what is Ceasers'.We want our pound of flesh.
Stop throwing money at unproductive entities. Weed out the slackers and compensate based on performance. Most if not all the high performing businesses are not unionised and are in the private sector. We must treat the public sector as a business in order to get value for money as well as enable the public servant to earn as they perform.
In the words of my current prime Minister, "I don't like my money sleeping out, I want every cent that is due to me"
Most private sector people actually do work for their salaries, I understand your issue with salary negotiations, but face the reality. Most government workers are overpaid, underworked, always complaining, uses the facilities as if it’s their own. And I’m not asking for your approval, it’s what I’ve seen, experienced while doing maintenance on several offices. Surveys should be done on time worked vs time on social media, in the kitchen, leaving the office. From TTPS, to health, licensing, NIB, you name the office most of them are a bunch of lazy facks.
You talking about performance and cost cutting measures it leads us back to the same issuewing wrote:As you have said repeatedly, government needs to run its affairs like a business and not like a parlor. And fundamentally, it puts the public servants in the cross hairs. The one thing that "protects" the public servant, is the same thing that is the major problem. It encourages poor performance without accountability with the added power to hold the country to ransom... because "we want we money now". Are you willing to purge the public service of non performers like what is being considered for Wasa? Are you willing to submit to a performance based compensation package rather than the usual progression based on years employed?hover11 wrote:With that note look at the bureaucracy between that of private and public. The red tape that you need to do a simple process in a government office compared to that of private there are many factors not only lazy public servants, there are hard working servants just the system is a mess just factor in that. Public servants don't make policies simply follow them so your grievance still lies with the powers that be.matix wrote:hover11 wrote:Unions serve a purpose, if it was left to simple management there would be total abuse of power. Unions offer protection. However, let's not take away the fact that the government has indeed dropped the ball and allowed this unpleasant situation to fester. Their obligation was to meet with the respective unions and negotiate for every three years. It is close to 10 years and not onesalary negotiation period has been completed under this administration.It has reached the point where we are currently owed three negotiation periods. You comparing government businesses to that of private sector, let's look at Angostura who recently settled wages from 2022 to 2025 at seven percent , the government needs to increase taxes on Angostura because clearly trinis love their rum at any costs, start running your economy like a business as well.wing wrote:"Time the government runs their businesses like a real business and not a parlor."hover11 wrote:Had the Government been doing their job in which they are being paid their hefty salaries to do in the first place which involve dealing with the bargaining periods on a timely basis, we would not be in this position. Let's see what happens when police, nurses , fire and prisons don't get their increase in wages.shake d livin wake d dead wrote:That March not going to change jack sheit
Give to Ceasar, what is Ceasers'.We want our pound of flesh.
Stop throwing money at unproductive entities. Weed out the slackers and compensate based on performance. Most if not all the high performing businesses are not unionised and are in the private sector. We must treat the public sector as a business in order to get value for money as well as enable the public servant to earn as they perform.
In the words of my current prime Minister, "I don't like my money sleeping out, I want every cent that is due to me"
Most private sector people actually do work for their salaries, I understand your issue with salary negotiations, but face the reality. Most government workers are overpaid, underworked, always complaining, uses the facilities as if it’s their own. And I’m not asking for your approval, it’s what I’ve seen, experienced while doing maintenance on several offices. Surveys should be done on time worked vs time on social media, in the kitchen, leaving the office. From TTPS, to health, licensing, NIB, you name the office most of them are a bunch of lazy facks.
Return to work?...hmmm, better he stayed in isolation until 2025 cause he here or he not here....makes no differenceRovin wrote:well allyuh pm apparently get back good & said to return to "work" today
i know some u badly want to say what ur thinking in ur mind ... ..
Possible, because the unions were ready to go on a full out war when it came to the PP administration who willingly gave them 15 percent meanwhile with PNM it come like you always hadda beg for what is yours....anyway most of the public distracted by rowley getting horn. The sad thing is ppl dying before they get what is due to them, many public servants police , nurses, doctors et al have died before receiving their backpay. While Rowley, glad to say his money don't sleep out, he gets every cent when he needs it. Such a sensitive and caring leader that one.death365 wrote:them union leaders get pay off to stay quiet from 15 to now. how else to explain that 3 periods elapse with little or no fuss.
btw 1 day after the 2nd period ended, they should have gone into abirritation and then - if not settled, industrial court. ALLOF THIS WAS B4 COVID and covid didnt really stop court matters.
This. Hovendra, don't forget the pics later baiyya.maj. tom wrote:send back pics from the front.
Much to do about nothing, they will still vote PNM.The_Honourable wrote:PUBLIC SERVANTS GATHER
Public servants and their union, the Public Services Association, have garnered the support of several other unions in a joint movement. Workers and their unions are presently gathering at the Brian Lara Promenade ahead of a march against the 4% offer by the CPO. The gathering has already amassed hundreds of workers.
Don't mind the ignorance they are disconnected and just on the outside looking in, they don't have a clue what occurs in the public service , the BS you have to put up , I sure if you ask them, their salaries have increased within the last ten years. Anyway they are so vocal co concerning this matter yet they let politicians get away with murder , some even quoting public servants are lazy, stupid, et al. Yet ask them what rowley and his cohorts have done for the past 7 years they become quiet and deflect. What achievements and accolades do they have to show for their hefty salaries.........NOTHING. We will fight to the end comrades, this is war.goalpost wrote:Can't believe it have posters in here agree with just 4%.
So police don't work, nurses don't work, immigration don't work, customs officers who process what yall order every week don't work......you know they are public servants as well right, well when they shutdown you will see who not working, time to down toolsDMan7 wrote:Allya go be back behind your desks bright and early Monday morning NOT doing your work and spending all day on facebook. "Fight till the end"
adnj wrote:
Looks like a rowlee if you ask me.....doing nothing but looking busy as usualDMan7 wrote:adnj wrote:
A a look a hover dey boi.
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