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Re: Issues with reopening Schools in T&T , Vaccines for Children etc

Postby st7 » October 23rd, 2021, 5:20 pm

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adnj wrote:According to Gadsby-Dolly, data from the Ministry of Health as of October 19, 2021, indicates that 49,853 (54%) of students aged 12 to 18 have received their first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine and 36,540 (40%) have gotten their second dose. 

Data collected by the MoE as of October 10, 2021, indicates that 30% of the forms 4 to 6 cohort is, at this time, fully vaccinated. Thirty-four per cent of denominational schools have reported more than 50% of their forms 4 to 6 students have been fully vaccinated, while one per cent of government schools indicated the same.  

Attendance data collected over the past two weeks has shown that school attendance is consistently lower in the government secondary schools, with an average of 50% of the eligible cohort attending school physically. For the denominational and private schools, the attendance averaged 80% of the eligible cohort and continued to increase; in some cases, the attendance was as high as 95% at the end of the two-week period.  

https://tt.loopnews.com/content/no-more ... ool-571841



Wow. 34% of denominational schools have at least 50% vaxxed. Vs a measly 1% of Govt schools. I guess antivax sentiment is higher the lower the education level.
I confused so if you attend a government school you are now classified as a dunce? I attended a college and I have classmates who are in jail at this moment and working grocery while I went lessons with persons who went same government schools and are now managers of prestigious organizations


and u still so dotish no mc? oh mai gad

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Re: Issues with reopening Schools in T&T , Vaccines for Children etc

Postby hover11 » October 23rd, 2021, 5:26 pm

st7 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
adnj wrote:According to Gadsby-Dolly, data from the Ministry of Health as of October 19, 2021, indicates that 49,853 (54%) of students aged 12 to 18 have received their first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine and 36,540 (40%) have gotten their second dose. 

Data collected by the MoE as of October 10, 2021, indicates that 30% of the forms 4 to 6 cohort is, at this time, fully vaccinated. Thirty-four per cent of denominational schools have reported more than 50% of their forms 4 to 6 students have been fully vaccinated, while one per cent of government schools indicated the same.  

Attendance data collected over the past two weeks has shown that school attendance is consistently lower in the government secondary schools, with an average of 50% of the eligible cohort attending school physically. For the denominational and private schools, the attendance averaged 80% of the eligible cohort and continued to increase; in some cases, the attendance was as high as 95% at the end of the two-week period.  

https://tt.loopnews.com/content/no-more ... ool-571841



Wow. 34% of denominational schools have at least 50% vaxxed. Vs a measly 1% of Govt schools. I guess antivax sentiment is higher the lower the education level.
I confused so if you attend a government school you are now classified as a dunce? I attended a college and I have classmates who are in jail at this moment and working grocery while I went lessons with persons who went same government schools and are now managers of prestigious organizations


and u still so dotish no mc? oh mai gad
That's your opinion, certification says otherwise

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Re: Issues with reopening Schools in T&T , Vaccines for Children etc

Postby st7 » October 23rd, 2021, 5:29 pm

hover11 wrote:
st7 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
adnj wrote:According to Gadsby-Dolly, data from the Ministry of Health as of October 19, 2021, indicates that 49,853 (54%) of students aged 12 to 18 have received their first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine and 36,540 (40%) have gotten their second dose. 

Data collected by the MoE as of October 10, 2021, indicates that 30% of the forms 4 to 6 cohort is, at this time, fully vaccinated. Thirty-four per cent of denominational schools have reported more than 50% of their forms 4 to 6 students have been fully vaccinated, while one per cent of government schools indicated the same.  

Attendance data collected over the past two weeks has shown that school attendance is consistently lower in the government secondary schools, with an average of 50% of the eligible cohort attending school physically. For the denominational and private schools, the attendance averaged 80% of the eligible cohort and continued to increase; in some cases, the attendance was as high as 95% at the end of the two-week period.  

https://tt.loopnews.com/content/no-more ... ool-571841



Wow. 34% of denominational schools have at least 50% vaxxed. Vs a measly 1% of Govt schools. I guess antivax sentiment is higher the lower the education level.
I confused so if you attend a government school you are now classified as a dunce? I attended a college and I have classmates who are in jail at this moment and working grocery while I went lessons with persons who went same government schools and are now managers of prestigious organizations


and u still so dotish no mc? oh mai gad
That's your opinion, certification says otherwise


certification? you could get that with 45-50% pass mark. doh feel bite up cause u have certification when u talking so dotish no mc.

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Re: Issues with reopening Schools in T&T , Vaccines for Children etc

Postby adnj » October 24th, 2021, 8:24 am

Pfizer says Covid vaccines over 90% effective in children aged 5-11

Kid-size doses of Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine appear safe and nearly 91% effective at preventing symptomatic infections in 5- to 11-year-olds, according to study details released Friday as the U.S. considers opening vaccinations to that age group.

The shots could begin in early November, with the first children in line fully protected by Christmas, if regulators give the go-ahead. That would represent a major expansion of the nation's vaccine drive, encompassing roughly 28 million elementary school-age youngsters.

https://www.thedailystar.net/health/dis ... 11-2203951

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Postby hover11 » October 24th, 2021, 8:27 am

adnj wrote:Pfizer says Covid vaccines over 90% effective in children aged 5-11

Kid-size doses of Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine appear safe and nearly 91% effective at preventing symptomatic infections in 5- to 11-year-olds, according to study details released Friday as the U.S. considers opening vaccinations to that age group.

The shots could begin in early November, with the first children in line fully protected by Christmas, if regulators give the go-ahead. That would represent a major expansion of the nation's vaccine drive, encompassing roughly 28 million elementary school-age youngsters.

https://www.thedailystar.net/health/dis ... 11-2203951
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Re: Issues with reopening Schools in T&T , Vaccines for Children etc

Postby adnj » October 24th, 2021, 12:14 pm

Remote learning options help educators navigate challenges as they deal with the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic


According to Understood.org, video gives remote learning options for students with different learning styles to engage in a topic. For instance, the teacher might allow students to read an article about gravity, attend a live video lesson or watch a pre-recorded video lesson.

Pre-recorded video can remove barriers to learning in many ways, including:

Students who need more processing time can pause and rewind the video.

Students who benefit from repetition can watch it as many times as they want.

Students can take notes as they wish at their own pace.

Students who are deaf or hard of hearing can read the closed captioning.

Students who benefit from being given notes can review a transcript.

Flexibility is clearly ingrained in any viable solution. There are essentially five workable scenarios that encompass most in-person, hybrid, and distanced learning situations.

Scenario 1: Smaller rooms, larger screens, fewer students.

This scenario allows for social distancing within smaller spaces. It’s important to have 4K technology so students far away can see the screen and those in close can also clearly see the content without any pixilation issues.

Scenario 2: Larger rooms, larger screens, socially distanced students.

This scenario calls for half the number of students to be in the classroom for social distancing. Larger screens and projectors with greater brightness and long lamp life are needed so students in the back of the room can see the content clearly.

Scenario 3: Personal spaces, personal screens, remote students.

This is a pure virtual learning situation where students and the instructor are all completely remote. The display technology that is needed to optimize the experience includes cameras, desktop monitors, large LCD monitors, and projection systems of various sizes. Again, bigger is better. The reason is small laptop screens add to a growing concern called computer vision syndrome for both students and teachers. According to the American Optometric Association, computer vision syndrome, or digital eye strain, which describes a group of eye- and vision-related problems, can result from prolonged computer, tablet, e-reader and cell phone use. If students have a larger screen, their eyes do not have to work so hard to see, read and comprehend the information.

Scenario 4: Mid-size room, multiple screens, present and remote students

This is a hybrid situation that is most similar to traditional environments. Screens are mounted or projected to the back of the room. The instructor can stand at the front of the room and still see the faces of all the students in the class. Of all the scenarios, this allows the teachers and professors to maintain their teaching style, enable continuity and quality of instruction with the greatest amount of natural, personal interaction.

Scenario 5: Mobility for as-needed convenience

Sometimes a flexible, mobile solution is called for. Many schools have implemented an a la carte, “on a cart” approach using 65-inch, 4k monitors. The monitors are installed on a wheeled cart with a camera and stand-alone PC to use among several rooms. When video conferencing is needed, the cart can be rolled into the classroom and learning can commence.

https://www.eschoolnews.com/2021/10/20/ ... earning/2/

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Postby eitech » October 24th, 2021, 12:28 pm

adnj wrote:Remote learning options help educators navigate challenges as they deal with the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic


According to Understood.org, video gives remote learning options for students with different learning styles to engage in a topic. For instance, the teacher might allow students to read an article about gravity, attend a live video lesson or watch a pre-recorded video lesson.

Pre-recorded video can remove barriers to learning in many ways, including:

Students who need more processing time can pause and rewind the video.

Students who benefit from repetition can watch it as many times as they want.

Students can take notes as they wish at their own pace.

Students who are deaf or hard of hearing can read the closed captioning.

Students who benefit from being given notes can review a transcript.

Flexibility is clearly ingrained in any viable solution. There are essentially five workable scenarios that encompass most in-person, hybrid, and distanced learning situations.

Scenario 1: Smaller rooms, larger screens, fewer students.

This scenario allows for social distancing within smaller spaces. It’s important to have 4K technology so students far away can see the screen and those in close can also clearly see the content without any pixilation issues.

Scenario 2: Larger rooms, larger screens, socially distanced students.

This scenario calls for half the number of students to be in the classroom for social distancing. Larger screens and projectors with greater brightness and long lamp life are needed so students in the back of the room can see the content clearly.

Scenario 3: Personal spaces, personal screens, remote students.

This is a pure virtual learning situation where students and the instructor are all completely remote. The display technology that is needed to optimize the experience includes cameras, desktop monitors, large LCD monitors, and projection systems of various sizes. Again, bigger is better. The reason is small laptop screens add to a growing concern called computer vision syndrome for both students and teachers. According to the American Optometric Association, computer vision syndrome, or digital eye strain, which describes a group of eye- and vision-related problems, can result from prolonged computer, tablet, e-reader and cell phone use. If students have a larger screen, their eyes do not have to work so hard to see, read and comprehend the information.

Scenario 4: Mid-size room, multiple screens, present and remote students

This is a hybrid situation that is most similar to traditional environments. Screens are mounted or projected to the back of the room. The instructor can stand at the front of the room and still see the faces of all the students in the class. Of all the scenarios, this allows the teachers and professors to maintain their teaching style, enable continuity and quality of instruction with the greatest amount of natural, personal interaction.

Scenario 5: Mobility for as-needed convenience

Sometimes a flexible, mobile solution is called for. Many schools have implemented an a la carte, “on a cart” approach using 65-inch, 4k monitors. The monitors are installed on a wheeled cart with a camera and stand-alone PC to use among several rooms. When video conferencing is needed, the cart can be rolled into the classroom and learning can commence.

https://www.eschoolnews.com/2021/10/20/ ... earning/2/



Scenario 6: Make vaccination mandatory by law for all ages and enforce fully in every country globally. Get vaccinated or get left behind. Only genuine exceptions allowed.

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Postby redmanjp » October 24th, 2021, 1:02 pm

hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:Pfizer says Covid vaccines over 90% effective in children aged 5-11

Kid-size doses of Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine appear safe and nearly 91% effective at preventing symptomatic infections in 5- to 11-year-olds, according to study details released Friday as the U.S. considers opening vaccinations to that age group.

The shots could begin in early November, with the first children in line fully protected by Christmas, if regulators give the go-ahead. That would represent a major expansion of the nation's vaccine drive, encompassing roughly 28 million elementary school-age youngsters.

https://www.thedailystar.net/health/dis ... 11-2203951
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Postby hover11 » October 26th, 2021, 12:30 pm

Standard 5's to return to school from November 1st 2021?!

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Postby DMan7 » October 26th, 2021, 12:39 pm

Well if unvaxxed children are allowed for Forms 4 - 6 then everyone should now be allowed back to school, there's no prerequisite for attending school anymore.

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Postby hover11 » October 28th, 2021, 7:23 pm

Covid scare at Tobago School :
Liz Williams

A parent of a student attached to the Mason Hall Secondary School, who visited the school's compound, has tested positive for COVID-19. In light of this, the doors to the institution remained shut on Thursday.

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Postby K74T » November 1st, 2021, 3:17 pm

There are four suspected COVID-19 cases and one positive at the Iere High School, Siparia with at least 60 contacts under investigation.

According to a report by the Education District Health Unit, the suspected cases are two biologically related students and three staffers- one of which has tested positive.
The staffer who tested positive, according to the report, was never physically present on the compound. The second staffer was identified as a primary contact of another positive case. The last staffer was assessed by a medical officer who deemed a swab was not necessary.

The report said District Nurses are currently investigating a contact list of over 60 people for the student cases. It noted that the County Medical Officer of Health “has not confirmed any such details.”
The principal has since submitted a list of names for contact tracing to the CMOH who has not yet confirmed it.

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Postby redmanjp » November 1st, 2021, 8:57 pm

DMan7 wrote:Well if unvaxxed children are allowed for Forms 4 - 6 then everyone should now be allowed back to school, there's no prerequisite for attending school anymore.


The numbers that we are bringing out also matter. Also with almost half the 12 to 18 vaxxed any spread should be less than what would happen in a school population of 100% unvaccinated. The plan is too wait till January. Hopefully we should have authorization for vaccines for kids 5 to 11 by then and also a little closer to herd immunity in the general population. But it also depends on what happens with Delta.

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Postby eitech » November 1st, 2021, 11:45 pm

redmanjp wrote:
DMan7 wrote:Well if unvaxxed children are allowed for Forms 4 - 6 then everyone should now be allowed back to school, there's no prerequisite for attending school anymore.


The numbers that we are bringing out also matter. Also with almost half the 12 to 18 vaxxed any spread should be less than what would happen in a school population of 100% unvaccinated. The plan is too wait till January. Hopefully we should have authorization for vaccines for kids 5 to 11 by then and also a little closer to herd immunity in the general population. But it also depends on what happens with Delta.


That herd immunity is still possible? I thought that was out the door.

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Postby redmanjp » November 2nd, 2021, 2:30 am

eitech wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
DMan7 wrote:Well if unvaxxed children are allowed for Forms 4 - 6 then everyone should now be allowed back to school, there's no prerequisite for attending school anymore.


The numbers that we are bringing out also matter. Also with almost half the 12 to 18 vaxxed any spread should be less than what would happen in a school population of 100% unvaccinated. The plan is too wait till January. Hopefully we should have authorization for vaccines for kids 5 to 11 by then and also a little closer to herd immunity in the general population. But it also depends on what happens with Delta.


That herd immunity is still possible? I thought that was out the door.

Not completely. We still need to bring down hospitalizations and deaths. Even if the virus stays it should be at lower levels which are manageable like the flu. So the herd immunity would be against severe covid which would be comparable to flu cases.

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Postby FuadAdnan » November 2nd, 2021, 7:12 pm

The people in charge have no clue what they are doing. When will people realize that?

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Postby adnj » November 2nd, 2021, 8:07 pm

redmanjp wrote:
eitech wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
DMan7 wrote:Well if unvaxxed children are allowed for Forms 4 - 6 then everyone should now be allowed back to school, there's no prerequisite for attending school anymore.


The numbers that we are bringing out also matter. Also with almost half the 12 to 18 vaxxed any spread should be less than what would happen in a school population of 100% unvaccinated. The plan is too wait till January. Hopefully we should have authorization for vaccines for kids 5 to 11 by then and also a little closer to herd immunity in the general population. But it also depends on what happens with Delta.


That herd immunity is still possible? I thought that was out the door.

Not completely. We still need to bring down hospitalizations and deaths. Even if the virus stays it should be at lower levels which are manageable like the flu. So the herd immunity would be against severe covid which would be comparable to flu cases.
Because of the higher transmissibility of the delta variant, community immunity shifted from 60%+ to 75%+. With children becoming eligible for vaccination, it is attainable.

Vaccine hesitancy is about 20 % to 35% in many countries - that is what makes community immunity very unlikely for those nations.
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Postby hover11 » November 2nd, 2021, 8:11 pm

adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
eitech wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
DMan7 wrote:Well if unvaxxed children are allowed for Forms 4 - 6 then everyone should now be allowed back to school, there's no prerequisite for attending school anymore.


The numbers that we are bringing out also matter. Also with almost half the 12 to 18 vaxxed any spread should be less than what would happen in a school population of 100% unvaccinated. The plan is too wait till January. Hopefully we should have authorization for vaccines for kids 5 to 11 by then and also a little closer to herd immunity in the general population. But it also depends on what happens with Delta.


That herd immunity is still possible? I thought that was out the door.

Not completely. We still need to bring down hospitalizations and deaths. Even if the virus stays it should be at lower levels which are manageable like the flu. So the herd immunity would be against severe covid which would be comparable to flu cases.
Because of the higher transmissibility of the delta variant, community immunity shifted from 60%+ to 75%+. With children becoming eligible for vaccination, it is attainable.

Vaccine hesitancy is about 20 % to 35% in many countries - that is what makes community immunity very unlikely for those nations.
There is no incentive for children to vaccinate , regardless they will be able to continue school

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Postby ruffneck_12 » November 2nd, 2021, 8:41 pm

Kids have the lowest chance of dying from covies

Stop beating up, just let them wash their hands when they come home if your immune system that poor from years of drinking soft drink.

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Postby redmanjp » November 2nd, 2021, 8:59 pm

ruffneck_12 wrote:Kids have the lowest chance of dying from covies

Stop beating up, just let them wash their hands when they come home if your immune system that poor from years of drinking soft drink.


its an airborne virus. washing hands alone not going to stop it unless those kids also wear masks at home as well. but vaccinating them helps a bit from a community perspective.

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Postby adnj » November 2nd, 2021, 9:02 pm

ruffneck_12 wrote:Kids have the lowest chance of dying from covies

Stop beating up, just let them wash their hands when they come home if your immune system that poor from years of drinking soft drink.


Young children may not be at risk of hospitalization but they very effectively spread infection to other children and caretaker adults.

Young kids more likely than older kids to spread COVID-19 to household

A Canadian study today in JAMA Pediatrics suggests that while younger children are less likely than older children to be the index COVID-19 patient in their home, they are more likely to spread it to household members.

Led by researchers from Public Health Ontario in Toronto, the study involved 6,280 households with COVID-19 index patients 17 years and younger from Jun 1 to Dec 31, 2020.

Of the 6,280 households, 1,717 (27.3%) experienced SARS-CoV-2 transmission to a median of two siblings or caregivers in the household 1 to 14 days after index patient diagnosis. Children aged 0 to 8 had higher odds of transmitting the virus, but those 3 years and younger had the greatest infectivity (odds ratio [OR], 1.43 vs those 14 to 17 years).

Similar odds were seen when restricting secondary cases to those occurring 2 to 14 days or 4 to 14 days after diagnosis of the index patient, regardless of symptoms or link to a school or childcare outbreak or reopening.

Consistent with increasing degrees of autonomy, proportions of index patients in each age-group rose with age, with 12% of those 0 to 3 years, 20% of those 4 to 8, 30% of those 9 to 13, and 38% of those 14 to 17. Mean COVID-19 index patient age was 10.7 years, and 45.6% were girls.


https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... -household

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Postby sMASH » November 2nd, 2021, 9:10 pm

Well schools open... The science will follow

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Postby sMASH » November 2nd, 2021, 9:11 pm

adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
eitech wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
DMan7 wrote:Well if unvaxxed children are allowed for Forms 4 - 6 then everyone should now be allowed back to school, there's no prerequisite for attending school anymore.


The numbers that we are bringing out also matter. Also with almost half the 12 to 18 vaxxed any spread should be less than what would happen in a school population of 100% unvaccinated. The plan is too wait till January. Hopefully we should have authorization for vaccines for kids 5 to 11 by then and also a little closer to herd immunity in the general population. But it also depends on what happens with Delta.


That herd immunity is still possible? I thought that was out the door.

Not completely. We still need to bring down hospitalizations and deaths. Even if the virus stays it should be at lower levels which are manageable like the flu. So the herd immunity would be against severe covid which would be comparable to flu cases.
Because of the higher transmissibility of the delta variant, community immunity shifted from 60%+ to 75%+. With children becoming eligible for vaccination, it is attainable.

Vaccine hesitancy is about 20 % to 35% in many countries - that is what makes community immunity very unlikely for those nations.
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When u say immunity, u mean contracting the virus or dying from the virus?

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Postby redmanjp » November 2nd, 2021, 9:19 pm

adnj wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:Kids have the lowest chance of dying from covies

Stop beating up, just let them wash their hands when they come home if your immune system that poor from years of drinking soft drink.


Young children may not be at risk of hospitalization but they very effectively spread infection to other children and caretaker adults.

Young kids more likely than older kids to spread COVID-19 to household

A Canadian study today in JAMA Pediatrics suggests that while younger children are less likely than older children to be the index COVID-19 patient in their home, they are more likely to spread it to household members.

Led by researchers from Public Health Ontario in Toronto, the study involved 6,280 households with COVID-19 index patients 17 years and younger from Jun 1 to Dec 31, 2020.

Of the 6,280 households, 1,717 (27.3%) experienced SARS-CoV-2 transmission to a median of two siblings or caregivers in the household 1 to 14 days after index patient diagnosis. Children aged 0 to 8 had higher odds of transmitting the virus, but those 3 years and younger had the greatest infectivity (odds ratio [OR], 1.43 vs those 14 to 17 years).

Similar odds were seen when restricting secondary cases to those occurring 2 to 14 days or 4 to 14 days after diagnosis of the index patient, regardless of symptoms or link to a school or childcare outbreak or reopening.

Consistent with increasing degrees of autonomy, proportions of index patients in each age-group rose with age, with 12% of those 0 to 3 years, 20% of those 4 to 8, 30% of those 9 to 13, and 38% of those 14 to 17. Mean COVID-19 index patient age was 10.7 years, and 45.6% were girls.


https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... -household


and that was before delta. even more spread will occur with delta if children are not vaccinated and they go back out to school.

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Postby MaxPower » November 2nd, 2021, 10:51 pm

FuadAdnan wrote:The people in charge have no clue what they are doing. When will people realize that?


The people themselves have no clue what they are doing.

From the very start of this pandemic, the people in charged asked the citizens over a hundred times to wear their masks, sanitize and DO NOT CONGREGATE.

No one listened and that is why we are in this position today.

Allyuh don’t want to follow the protocols correctly and consistently, allyuh don’t want to take the vaccine but blaming the leaders.

How much more can those in charge do or say if the majority of the people are NOT listening and complying?

Don’t blame the leaders, blame Trinis.

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Re: Issues with reopening Schools in T&T , Vaccines for Children etc

Postby Dohplaydat » November 3rd, 2021, 3:21 am

MaxPower wrote:
FuadAdnan wrote:The people in charge have no clue what they are doing. When will people realize that?


The people themselves have no clue what they are doing.

From the very start of this pandemic, the people in charged asked the citizens over a hundred times to wear their masks, sanitize and DO NOT CONGREGATE.

No one listened and that is why we are in this position today.

Allyuh don’t want to follow the protocols correctly and consistently, allyuh don’t want to take the vaccine but blaming the leaders.

How much more can those in charge do or say if the majority of the people are NOT listening and complying?

Don’t blame the leaders, blame Trinis.


Fully vaccinated people can, Covid becomes equivalent to the flu for them.

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Re: Issues with reopening Schools in T&T , Vaccines for Children etc

Postby adnj » November 3rd, 2021, 6:41 am

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
eitech wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
DMan7 wrote:Well if unvaxxed children are allowed for Forms 4 - 6 then everyone should now be allowed back to school, there's no prerequisite for attending school anymore.


The numbers that we are bringing out also matter. Also with almost half the 12 to 18 vaxxed any spread should be less than what would happen in a school population of 100% unvaccinated. The plan is too wait till January. Hopefully we should have authorization for vaccines for kids 5 to 11 by then and also a little closer to herd immunity in the general population. But it also depends on what happens with Delta.


That herd immunity is still possible? I thought that was out the door.

Not completely. We still need to bring down hospitalizations and deaths. Even if the virus stays it should be at lower levels which are manageable like the flu. So the herd immunity would be against severe covid which would be comparable to flu cases.
Because of the higher transmissibility of the delta variant, community immunity shifted from 60%+ to 75%+. With children becoming eligible for vaccination, it is attainable.

Vaccine hesitancy is about 20 % to 35% in many countries - that is what makes community immunity very unlikely for those nations.
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When u say immunity, u mean contracting the virus or dying from the virus?
redmanjp wrote:
adnj wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:Kids have the lowest chance of dying from covies

Stop beating up, just let them wash their hands when they come home if your immune system that poor from years of drinking soft drink.


Young children may not be at risk of hospitalization but they very effectively spread infection to other children and caretaker adults.

Young kids more likely than older kids to spread COVID-19 to household

A Canadian study today in JAMA Pediatrics suggests that while younger children are less likely than older children to be the index COVID-19 patient in their home, they are more likely to spread it to household members.

Led by researchers from Public Health Ontario in Toronto, the study involved 6,280 households with COVID-19 index patients 17 years and younger from Jun 1 to Dec 31, 2020.

Of the 6,280 households, 1,717 (27.3%) experienced SARS-CoV-2 transmission to a median of two siblings or caregivers in the household 1 to 14 days after index patient diagnosis. Children aged 0 to 8 had higher odds of transmitting the virus, but those 3 years and younger had the greatest infectivity (odds ratio [OR], 1.43 vs those 14 to 17 years).

Similar odds were seen when restricting secondary cases to those occurring 2 to 14 days or 4 to 14 days after diagnosis of the index patient, regardless of symptoms or link to a school or childcare outbreak or reopening.

Consistent with increasing degrees of autonomy, proportions of index patients in each age-group rose with age, with 12% of those 0 to 3 years, 20% of those 4 to 8, 30% of those 9 to 13, and 38% of those 14 to 17. Mean COVID-19 index patient age was 10.7 years, and 45.6% were girls.


https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... -household


and that was before delta. even more spread will occur with delta if children are not vaccinated and they go back out to school.
60%+ for the ancestral strain.
75%+ for the delta variant.

If you want to look at the immunity formula, you will see forcing r0<1 depends on the transmissibility of the infection.

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Re: Issues with reopening Schools in T&T , Vaccines for Children etc

Postby adnj » November 4th, 2021, 5:02 am

Two cafeteria staffers the latest to contract COVID at Iere High School

Two additional cases of COVID-19 were confirmed among staff at the Iere High School in Siparia yesterday.

The new infections were detected among workers at the school’s cafeteria, who, Guardian Media understands, were last on the school’s compound last Friday.

An official from the school said they were tested on Sunday and returned the positive results on Wednesday.

Guardian Media was assured that all protocols were being engaged to ensure the health and safety of staff and students are protected. Sanitisation exercises are expected to be conducted this morning. Guardian Media understands the school is also awaiting further instructions from the Ministry of Health.

Earlier this week, two siblings who attend the school tested positive for the disease and prompted over 60 other students to be placed into quarantine.

However, one concerned parent is questioning why the school has not yet been closed.

“If you have to think about the safety of everybody you could shut it down. Remember, classes can be online. So it’s not as if the students will miss classes,” the parent told Guardian Media.

The parent added that the school should at least be closed for a few days to allow for thorough sanitisation.

Only on Tuesday, Trinidad and Tobago Unified Teachers’ Association president Antonia Tekah-De Freitas said the union suspected there were more cases of COVID in other secondary schools across the country, including Palo Seco, Mason Hall and Rio Claro West Secondary Schools.

She called for proper health and safety practices by the Ministry of Education.

The Minister of Education has said it was expected that cases of COVID-19 would occur in schools but assured the Education District Health Unit was set up and strict guidelines were also established to deal with such situations.

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/two-caf ... 483a1d6dcb

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Re: Issues with reopening Schools in T&T , Vaccines for Children etc

Postby hover11 » November 5th, 2021, 9:12 pm

TTUTA, Maha Sabha: Teachers can't control physical distancing off compound

http://newsday.co.tt/2021/11/05/ttuta-m ... s.facebook

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