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paid_influencer wrote:if anything, the failure of airlines internationally shows the need for our own domestically-controlled regional airline.
It is expensive as hell, but in return we get some guarantees that we will not be cut off from each other or the rest of the world (under the conditions we decide).
I don't agree, we are cut off right now and may be so for a while and able to survive with Amerijet bringing in most of our air freight. I believe we can survive without at state run airline. In fact, international competition caused CAL to reduce rates. The government can continue to subside the Tobago route but use private carriers instead. If we ever need to go to the IMF, one of the first state enterprise that will have to be divested is CAL.paid_influencer wrote:if anything, the failure of airlines internationally shows the need for our own domestically-controlled regional airline.
It is expensive as hell, but in return we get some guarantees that we will not be cut off from each other or the rest of the world (under the conditions we decide).
maj. tom wrote:The future of all airlines and air travel is in question. Globally, a lot of them are going to fold and all of them will require Government bailout. 9/11 aftermath was a lot worse than what's currently going on.
hydroep wrote:Maybe the solution is the consolidate all the regional airlines into one carrier: CA, Liat etc.
Countries go have to swallow the "Pride" that comes from operating their own airlines because this is a matter of survival.
Talking about that, ah wonder what go happen to Guyana Airways now? All the boast they was boasting...like they go have to take the "unfair treatment" from CA for some time to come...
neilsingh100 wrote:I don't agree, we are cut off right now and may be so for a while and able to survive with Amerijet bringing in most of our air freight. I believe we can survive without at state run airline. In fact, international competition caused CAL to reduce rates. The government can continue to subside the Tobago route but use private carriers instead. If we ever need to go to the IMF, one of the first state enterprise that will have to be divested is CAL.paid_influencer wrote:if anything, the failure of airlines internationally shows the need for our own domestically-controlled regional airline.
It is expensive as hell, but in return we get some guarantees that we will not be cut off from each other or the rest of the world (under the conditions we decide).
Dohplaydat wrote:neilsingh100 wrote:I don't agree, we are cut off right now and may be so for a while and able to survive with Amerijet bringing in most of our air freight. I believe we can survive without at state run airline. In fact, international competition caused CAL to reduce rates. The government can continue to subside the Tobago route but use private carriers instead. If we ever need to go to the IMF, one of the first state enterprise that will have to be divested is CAL.paid_influencer wrote:if anything, the failure of airlines internationally shows the need for our own domestically-controlled regional airline.
It is expensive as hell, but in return we get some guarantees that we will not be cut off from each other or the rest of the world (under the conditions we decide).
You're wrong, a strong regional airline puts us in excellent position. Not to mention boosts our abilities as a trade partner and the negotiating power we'll hold in the Caribbean region.
Airline industries are a very sensitive hard to profit business and are at the mercies of international events like this.
CAL profits are a thing of the pass but we should strongly consider even expanding CAL versus having some other BS wastage.
CAL has an opportunity now to negotiate more international gates at a lower price. With BA and Virgin in trouble, CAL can position themselves to monopolize the Caribbean to Europe routes. Tourism will bounce back in a a year or 2, and if CAL is the airline of choice for UK to Barbados/Jam/Lucia/Vincent etc we could be earning millions and profiting.
maj. tom wrote:*jeremy clarkson voice*
"Daran is the man... with many jobs and qualifications! He once rescued a SEAL team in Baghdad, dated many chicks who weren't real, and some say... he even cured the Covid-19 plague and then fixed the economy by himself.
All we can say is, he's a pathological lyingcunt!"
maj. tom wrote:*jeremy clarkson voice*
"Daran is the man... with many jobs and qualifications! He once rescued a SEAL team in Baghdad, dated many chicks who weren't real, and some say... he even cured the Covid-19 plague and then fixed the economy by himself.
All we can say is, he's a pathological lyingcunt!"
adnj wrote:maj. tom wrote:*jeremy clarkson voice*
"Daran is the man... with many jobs and qualifications! He once rescued a SEAL team in Baghdad, dated many chicks who weren't real, and some say... he even cured the Covid-19 plague and then fixed the economy by himself.
All we can say is, he's a pathological lyingcunt!"
Completed three PhDs by the age of fifteen.
First Caricom national to orbit the earth.
Invented the steel pan.
Convincingly portrayed PM Rowley at a sitting of the Parliament.
adnj wrote:maj. tom wrote:*jeremy clarkson voice*
"Daran is the man... with many jobs and qualifications! He once rescued a SEAL team in Baghdad, dated many chicks who weren't real, and some say... he even cured the Covid-19 plague and then fixed the economy by himself.
All we can say is, he's a pathological lyingcunt!"
Completed three PhDs by the age of fifteen.
First Caricom national to orbit the earth.
Invented the steel pan.
Convincingly portrayed PM Rowley at a sitting of the Parliament.
Dohplaydat wrote:neilsingh100 wrote:I don't agree, we are cut off right now and may be so for a while and able to survive with Amerijet bringing in most of our air freight. I believe we can survive without at state run airline. In fact, international competition caused CAL to reduce rates. The government can continue to subside the Tobago route but use private carriers instead. If we ever need to go to the IMF, one of the first state enterprise that will have to be divested is CAL.paid_influencer wrote:if anything, the failure of airlines internationally shows the need for our own domestically-controlled regional airline.
It is expensive as hell, but in return we get some guarantees that we will not be cut off from each other or the rest of the world (under the conditions we decide).
You're wrong, a strong regional airline puts us in excellent position. Not to mention boosts our abilities as a trade partner and the negotiating power we'll hold in the Caribbean region.
Airline industries are a very sensitive hard to profit business and are at the mercies of international events like this.
CAL profits are a thing of the pass but we should strongly consider even expanding CAL versus having some other BS wastage.
CAL has an opportunity now to negotiate more international gates at a lower price. With BA and Virgin in trouble, CAL can position themselves to monopolize the Caribbean to Europe routes. Tourism will bounce back in a a year or 2, and if CAL is the airline of choice for UK to Barbados/Jam/Lucia/Vincent etc we could be earning millions and profiting.
adnj wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:neilsingh100 wrote:I don't agree, we are cut off right now and may be so for a while and able to survive with Amerijet bringing in most of our air freight. I believe we can survive without at state run airline. In fact, international competition caused CAL to reduce rates. The government can continue to subside the Tobago route but use private carriers instead. If we ever need to go to the IMF, one of the first state enterprise that will have to be divested is CAL.paid_influencer wrote:if anything, the failure of airlines internationally shows the need for our own domestically-controlled regional airline.
It is expensive as hell, but in return we get some guarantees that we will not be cut off from each other or the rest of the world (under the conditions we decide).
You're wrong, a strong regional airline puts us in excellent position. Not to mention boosts our abilities as a trade partner and the negotiating power we'll hold in the Caribbean region.
Airline industries are a very sensitive hard to profit business and are at the mercies of international events like this.
CAL profits are a thing of the pass but we should strongly consider even expanding CAL versus having some other BS wastage.
CAL has an opportunity now to negotiate more international gates at a lower price. With BA and Virgin in trouble, CAL can position themselves to monopolize the Caribbean to Europe routes. Tourism will bounce back in a a year or 2, and if CAL is the airline of choice for UK to Barbados/Jam/Lucia/Vincent etc we could be earning millions and profiting.
80% of Caribbean air travel is to DR, Jamaica, Barbados, PR, USVI, Aruba, Cuba, Martinique, and St. Marteen. Much of the travel is to/from associated countries such as UK, US, France, and the Netherlands. All of the airlines from those countries have been hard hit, are heavy GDP contributors, have been deemed to big to fail, and are in negotiations for bailout packages currently.
With Boeing and Airbus having a greater than 90% global commercial market share, do not expect any of the aforementioned nations to consider a contracted market as a reason to withdraw financial support.
In fact, there is likely to be low cost seating available for the next two or three years alá the post-September 11th air travel scenario.
And similarly, we are likely to see mergers amongst some players with like-DNA but a bounce back of miles traveled in a year is unlikely. Return to profit may occur within a year or two at the expense of reducing the number of seats available and headcount.
adnj wrote:You may see renegotiating on gate prices but I seriously doubt the need for more gates to service fewer planes with fewer passengers.
matr1x wrote:The smart thing would be to have better ticket prices and better pay packages to help revitalize the airline.
But pnm in power so is only dotishness to expect
Dohplaydat wrote: Governments haven't bailed out any airline just yet, reason being, bail out now and in a year they still fail.
Airlines are now being forced to lean up, cut routes and lay off.
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