COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[Habit7]

Tuner: *makes a false claim*
Me: No, this is the claim and this is the cited quotation
Tuner: stop spinning!!!

Which people you think he talking about? he wife and mammy?

The MoH refuting your original claim https://youtu.be/OQhscIw_x5o?t=2243

[MaxPower]

Team, afternoon,

Figures.

Send ting

[pugboy]

Send dem back b the Frankie khan thread

Thread turn political..

[Cantmis]

What about atheist?

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[aaron17]

Team, afternoon,

Figures.

Send ting

I guessing 23

[The_Honourable]

Listen, we know who Habit7 batting for. He will look for a word and spin away from the obvious. It's quite simple, we had a chance to lockdown for Easter and we did not. Behind the scenes, CMO Parasram gave a warning and persons who had the power didn't take him on. Now we are here with a spike in cases and deaths with the high potential to further escalate.

Right... so back to stats.

[widdyphuck]

[pugboy]

we way past spike now
it is full fledged wave

Listen, we know who Habit7 batting for. He will look for a word and spin away from the obvious. It's quite simple, we had a chance to lockdown for Easter and we did not. Behind the scenes, CMO Parasram gave a warning and persons who had the power didn't take him on. Now we are here with a spike in cases and deaths with the high potential to further escalate.

Right... so back to stats.

[aaron17]

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u have the video on that?

[sMASH]

from the time the president declared the 'novel' corona virus, now named 'Covid19', was a national threat, parliamentary mechanisms prohibited parliamentary discussions when the oppostition brought it up and rowley them decide to keep carnival even with global spread, it became political.

[Habit7]

Listen, we know who Habit7 batting for. He will look for a word and spin away from the obvious. It's quite simple, we had a chance to lockdown for Easter and we did not. Behind the scenes, CMO Parasram gave a warning and persons who had the power didn't take him on. Now we are here with a spike in cases and deaths with the high potential to further escalate.

Right... so back to stats.

I bat for the truth. The CMO warn the nation and the ppl in power parroted him and many ppl scoffed at ban on team sport. The MoH addressed that on Monday https://youtu.be/OQhscIw_x5o?t=2243
The spike started in country Caroni, then Victoria then was Easter Weekend. You cant be arguing with the govt for your freedom from Jan-April and then when cases spike say govt should have lock us down when cases were 35 per day. How would you have reacted?
The PM was saying to behave, we don't have money to pay out around the same time the CMO warned.

Dont come with revisionist history and out of context quotes. Defend your position with fact. I can defend mine.

[adnj]

Thread turn political..

It always was...

[ST Auto]

Shakes... 25 today?

[jhonnieblue]

Habit need a ban for being a blind supporter.

But seriously, a day of prayer? What the hell that going to do to help mitigate the spread of covid. He need a lash on his bald head for that stupidity.

Thread turn political..

[Dohplaydat]

My guess is that yesterday was a death anomaly and that it would be closer to 10 today.....I hope, cause two consecutive days of ~20 deaths would mean it's becoming more of an average and thus might even go up next week.

[aaron17]

Habit need a ban for being a blind supporter.

But seriously, a day of prayer? What the hell that going to do to help mitigate the spread of covid. He need a lash on his bald head for that stupidity.

Thread turn political..

A day of clout...

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Serious mix up in testing and results etc...numbers would be late...Plus given what going on in Grande and Mayaro hospitals....more pain

[redmanjp]

Shakes... 25 today?

just 2 months ago that would have been cases. now that number is deaths

[redmanjp]

Serious mix up in testing and results etc...numbers would be late...Plus given what going on in Grande and Mayaro hospitals....more pain

they counting deaths at home?

[hover11]

Our actions are to blame...ppl blaming venes yes that is a factor but how did this spread occur, we have to take some level of responsibility....not the government, not the venes

Shakes... 25 today?

just 2 months ago that would have been cases. now that number is deaths

[Habit7]

tuner: *makes false political claim*
Habit7: No, that is wrong. Here is one line of evidence that it is wrong, here is another with a citation and logically, it doesn't make sense.
tuner: stop being a blind supporter!!!

[goalpost]

Co worker got tested positive. Doctor read it wrong and told him he negative. Co worker apparently didn't even read it himself. They drop off the stuff for HR and he come to work for two days only for HR to say the form say positive.

The lab used the words "Detected" but the reference value referred to "Negative", so people read it bad. But he was in work for 2 days as a positive.

and he's the messenger, so he up in everybody office.

[goalpost]

565/9

[gastly369]

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[INDAVID WORKSHOP]

Guys,

Anyone have confirmation of high number of cases in Bamboo 3 and Extra Foods, seems a worker there died at home this morning with suspected Covid-19 system.

[adnj]

You're trolling just like the rest of us. Own your she!t.

tuner: *makes false political claim*
Habit7: No, that is wrong. Here is one line of evidence that it is wrong, here is another with a citation and logically, it doesn't make sense.
tuner: stop being a blind supporter!!!

Exhibit A:

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Habit what is the point of this post? To downplay the situation?

Deaths always lag cases, and we have been having record-breaking case numbers over the last week.......those deaths will soon pile up sadly.

adnj and company already saying we're probably projected to be the worse in the Caribbean.

Also, we're likely to be the last ones to be vaccinated and reach herd immunity. Also, we paying 3-4x as much for a vaccine that doesn't seem to be as nearly as effective as the other WHO-approved vaccines.

It seems like our intention all along was to buy the Chinese vaccine, hence why there was no urgency from the government.

We know your party in bed with the Chinese, I just hope this works out for us because Sinopharm despite WHO approval seems to have a lot of questions around it.

Even China is admitting the vaccine isn't as effective - https://www.ft.com/content/c54b02d6-00a ... X8m3lLNkA0

China considers mixing vaccines to bolster efficacy
Disease control centre makes first public admission over effectiveness of domestic jabs

The Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention has raised the prospect of mixing vaccines and varying doses to boost efficacy, the first time a government body has acknowledged concerns over the effectiveness of homegrown jabs.

Gao Fu, CDC head, told a conference on Saturday that the agency was “considering how to solve the problem that the efficacy of existing vaccines is not high”, according to local media. Gao proposed mixing different vaccines as well as amending the sequence of doses, such as changing the number and quantity of doses, and the interval between them.

Any new strategy will have ramifications for the more than 20 countries that China said it was supplying in mostly bilateral “vaccine diplomacy” deals.

As of March, China had supplied 40m doses to countries across the globe, including Brazil, Serbia and the United Arab Emirates, prompting the US and its allies to launch their own drive to supply 1bn doses of Johnson & Johnson’s Covid-19 vaccine to south-east Asian nations.

Chile, which has relied on China’s Sinovac vaccine for its inoculation campaign, is in the midst of another Covid-19 wave from new variants. The country has administered 62 doses per 100 residents, according to the Financial Times vaccine tracker, the third-highest rate in the world.

A recent study of the effectiveness of Chile’s vaccination programme found the efficacy of a single dose of the Sinovac jab was just 3 per cent, compared with 56 per cent with two shots. However, local health experts have not linked the latest wave to the vaccine’s efficacy rate.

Social-media posts on Gao’s remarks were swiftly censored, according to Yanzhong Huang, a senior fellow for global health at the Council on Foreign Relations.

“It is the first time . . . a government official publicly admitted that the protection rate is a concern in the vaccination drive,” Huang added. China had administered 65m doses across the country by the middle of March.

Unlike other vaccine producers, China’s manufacturers have not published their phase 3 trial data, leading to accusations of a lack of transparency over the vaccine’s effectiveness on different groups.

For now, the main jabs approved for use in China are the traditional “inactivated virus” vaccines produced by Sinopharm, Sinovac and other domestic groups.

Sinopharm claims a 79 per cent efficacy rate, similar to those achieved by AstraZeneca in its US trials. However, while AstraZeneca revised down its rates after facing criticism for releasing incomplete data, neither Sinopharm nor any of its Chinese peers have released phase 3 data for public scrutiny.

Peter English, a retired communicable disease control consultant at Public Health England, said it was “astonishing” that phase 3 trial data for the Chinese vaccines had not yet been published.

“We have little information on how effective these vaccines are,” he said, adding efficacy data against variants of concern was needed. Still, English said it was “interesting” that China was considering mixing and matching vaccines after moves from France and Germany to do so following safety concerns about the Oxford/AstraZeneca shot.

Sinovac Biotech’s CoronaVac vaccine has an overall efficacy rate of 51 per cent among people aged between 18 and 60, according to documents published by a Hong Kong panel of experts.

However, CoronaVac phase 1 and 2 data published in The Lancet found the shots were “safe and well tolerated”.

Gao also warned that reopening China’s borders to foreigners, who have been barred from entering the country since March last year, posed a risk to elderly people, who have not yet been vaccinated.

The timing of relaxing border restrictions will affect attendees at Beijing’s Winter Olympic Games in February 2022.

I posted the current death per million in comparison to similar Caricom countries without comment. It looks very similar to the current cases per million.

If the current facts upset you, that is your problem. Projections are not accurate, I will not make distant prognostications over algorithms while not acknowledging there can be major changes affecting this.

Furthermore, TT is behind other Caricom countries because they are relying on and using the same Chinese vaccine you want to scorn, along with the Russian one too. If you know of any Caricom country that have been able to procure Pfizer, Moderna, J&J or AZ please tell me. But to act like we have a choice to do otherwise is a pipe dream.

Finally, vaccine policy is not based on one Chinese man. It is observed by impartial ppl then peer reviewed. If one Chinese man thinks all Chinese vaccines have low efficacy good for him. But Sinopharm meets the threshold for WHO EUL approval and those are the facts.

https://www.ft.com/content/5edb16bf-9da ... 121f86739a

[daring dragoon]

Guys,

Anyone have confirmation of high number of cases in Bamboo 3 and Extra Foods, seems a worker there died at home this morning with suspected Covid-19 system.

remember in 2020 people were dropping down in the streets dead because of covid. woman in bush shed in tobago and someone in st james also.was it covid?

[Dohplaydat]

The forecast for the next few days continues to be high, we might get another 500+ day tomorrow and Saturday.

Looks like I was right...

[daring dragoon]

Co worker got tested positive. Doctor read it wrong and told him he negative. Co worker apparently didn't even read it himself. They drop off the stuff for HR and he come to work for two days only for HR to say the form say positive.

The lab used the words "Detected" but the reference value referred to "Negative", so people read it bad. But he was in work for 2 days as a positive.

and he's the messenger, so he up in everybody office.

this making me feel sick yes. gosh man, why everyone dont just stay home till the spike drops. for fuq sake is a job better than your life ?

[pugboy]

icu/hdu fill back up quick after yesterday clearing out