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Postby MaxPower » May 13th, 2021, 11:17 am

Even with 11 deaths, Trinis seem unaffected.

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Postby redmanjp » May 13th, 2021, 11:19 am

MaxPower wrote:Even with 11 deaths, Trinis seem unaffected.


They are saying to themselves is only old ppl dying but not paying any attention to the official reports that consistently include young ppl even without commorbities

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Postby sMASH » May 13th, 2021, 11:21 am

u talking about people who accustomed to nearly 2 killings per day not even total deaths, only those murders by non police.

so, we actually dont care, ur u have to pump those numbers up to spark joy. these numbers do not spark joy

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Postby aaron17 » May 13th, 2021, 11:23 am

sMASH wrote:we flew in an expert to set up the tent city....
tents.... experts.... was flown in.

proud of foolishness.
Seems like kamla asked for it?

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Postby sMASH » May 13th, 2021, 11:29 am

good ting she got the couva hospital built. lord knows what pnm woudl have done with covid.
triumphantly proclaim they have 102 beds set up for covid distributed along the hosptials throughout the country?

kamala cant make decisions, as oppistion.

its pnm in the driver seat, pnm signing the checks.

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Postby widdyphuck » May 13th, 2021, 11:36 am

Loans deferred.
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Postby Dizzy28 » May 13th, 2021, 11:41 am

The loans defferal last year cost the customer and made the banks more money. Interest continued to accrue for the period of the deferral.

Banks don't lose

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 13th, 2021, 11:52 am

Old clinic in Grande has been reopened(opposite ttec). It is being used to house covid+ patients which as of last night saw some long lines of people waiting to be tested, waiting on results and waiting to be moved. Feel free to take a drive and check it out yourself(henderson st, S/Grande).

One of my persons worked casualty last night, out of all the persons in there(only one was being treated for a stroke) everyone else....C19

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Postby sMASH » May 13th, 2021, 11:59 am

Dizzy28 wrote:The loans defferal last year cost the customer and made the banks more money. Interest continued to accrue for the period of the deferral.

Banks don't lose

rowley dem assured the citizens they would deal with the banks.

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Postby 88sins » May 13th, 2021, 12:02 pm

In dramatic cinematic voiceover tones

Tents and cots in hospitals and unused stadiums, triage criteria to be implemented, refrigerated containers for storage of dead bodies, soft SOE, food shortages, rampant unemployment, a frightened and unstable population, a massive spike in homicides, robberies, home invasions and larceny.
If you thought that the SHTF already, you just wasted a thought.

Coming soon to a location in Trinidad and Tobago near you.

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Postby widdyphuck » May 13th, 2021, 12:04 pm

When do we end up in sheit street. This week or next week?

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Postby pugboy » May 13th, 2021, 12:06 pm

this actually helps the banks more than the customers

Dizzy28 wrote:The loans defferal last year cost the customer and made the banks more money. Interest continued to accrue for the period of the deferral.

Banks don't lose

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Postby pugboy » May 13th, 2021, 12:07 pm

That crossed my mind the other day if any funeral homes started looking at freezer containers

88sins wrote:In dramatic cinematic voiceover tones

Tents and cots in hospitals and unused stadiums, triage criteria to be implemented, refrigerated containers for storage of dead bodies, soft SOE, food shortages, rampant unemployment, a frightened and unstable population, a massive spike in homicides, robberies, home invasions and larceny.
If you thought that the SHTF already, you just wasted a thought.

Coming soon to a location in Trinidad and Tobago near you.

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Postby daring dragoon » May 13th, 2021, 12:08 pm

wtf wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:I would hope they didn't full the morgue with living bodies!!
wtf wrote:Morgue in South full with dead COVID-19 bodies. Can't take anymore.
You are sure right. That would be a problem and anything is possible in Trinidad.



who pays for the disposal /funeral of a covid 19 infected dead body ?

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Postby widdyphuck » May 13th, 2021, 12:15 pm

daring dragoon wrote:
wtf wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:I would hope they didn't full the morgue with living bodies!!
wtf wrote:Morgue in South full with dead COVID-19 bodies. Can't take anymore.
You are sure right. That would be a problem and anything is possible in Trinidad.



who pays for the disposal /funeral of a covid 19 infected dead body ?
The family has to pay.
Also it seems Belgroves is the only funeral home capable of disposal of the body.
That means they have 66 COVID-19 bodies to dispose of for May alone.
66 bodies X $15 000 per body = $990000 in funeral expenses for Belgroves this month alone and we ain't even reach half the month as yet.

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Postby sMASH » May 13th, 2021, 12:20 pm

88sins wrote:In dramatic cinematic voiceover tones

Tents and cots in hospitals and unused stadiums, triage criteria to be implemented, refrigerated containers for storage of dead bodies, soft SOE, food shortages, rampant unemployment, a frightened and unstable population, a massive spike in homicides, robberies, home invasions and larceny.
If you thought that the SHTF already, you just wasted a thought.

Coming soon to a location in Trinidad and Tobago near you.

read that in a bbc conflict zone voice.

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Postby widdyphuck » May 13th, 2021, 12:28 pm

Oxygen running out.
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Postby Dohplaydat » May 13th, 2021, 12:39 pm

wtf wrote:Oxygen running out.FB_IMG_1620923235696.jpegFB_IMG_1620923249152.jpeg


You know what's weird or deliberate, is that all the persons in these makeshift tents aren't being counted in the hospitalisation data.

So the actual hospitalisations stat is probably close or over 400.

The official figure of 343 only counts persons in these facilities.

Journalists who read 2nr, ask this question next conference nah.
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Postby DTAC » May 13th, 2021, 12:53 pm

wtf wrote:Oxygen running out.FB_IMG_1620923235696.jpegFB_IMG_1620923249152.jpeg


Don't worry. Deyalsingh say we have infinite oxygen. I feel he including the oxygen in the air in that.....

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Postby aaron17 » May 13th, 2021, 1:06 pm

Damn! China cheap vaccine.


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Postby sMASH » May 13th, 2021, 1:07 pm

wtf wrote:Oxygen running out.FB_IMG_1620923235696.jpeg

if they get infected, its more to the numbers, as well as they risking their lives. give them the proper ppe cause they have the right mind in that situation.

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Postby Strugglerzinc » May 13th, 2021, 1:34 pm

wtf wrote:Oxygen running out.FB_IMG_1620923235696.jpegFB_IMG_1620923249152.jpeg


You know this says oxygen running out in the tent right. Is like allyuh failed comprehension in primary school.

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Postby daring dragoon » May 13th, 2021, 1:39 pm

wtf wrote:
daring dragoon wrote:
wtf wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:I would hope they didn't full the morgue with living bodies!!
wtf wrote:Morgue in South full with dead COVID-19 bodies. Can't take anymore.
You are sure right. That would be a problem and anything is possible in Trinidad.



who pays for the disposal /funeral of a covid 19 infected dead body ?
The family has to pay.
Also it seems Belgroves is the only funeral home capable of disposal of the body.
That means they have 66 COVID-19 bodies to dispose of for May alone.
66 bodies X $15 000 per body = $990000 in funeral expenses for Belgroves this month alone and we ain't even reach half the month as yet.



15 fuqin thousand you say, just for a funeral ? hmmc, i in the wrong business yes.

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Postby Dohplaydat » May 13th, 2021, 1:50 pm

Guys, anyone monitoring the situation in Seychelles?

Things getting worse now and new reports are saying Sinopharm's efficacy there has only been 50% and this isn't against other strains like we have, so it may even be less effective here.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/12/busi ... pharm.html

Dr. Mulholland said the initial reports from Seychelles correlate to a 50 percent efficacy rate for the vaccine, instead of the 78.1 percent rate that the company has touted.

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Postby bluefete » May 13th, 2021, 2:10 pm

When the 1% start to sell vaccines, it will be pressure for the poor man!

The article also supports what some Tuners have written : That some people who have died from Covid have not been counted among the official figures.


MAY 13TH 2021

The Economist this week
Highlights from the latest issue



This week we are publishing our estimate of the true death toll from covid-19.

Using known data on 121 variables, from recorded deaths to demography, we have built a pattern of correlations that lets us fill in gaps where numbers are lacking.

Our central estimate is that 10m people have died who would otherwise be living—more than three times the recorded number.

Official figures suggest that the pandemic has struck in waves, and that the rich countries have been hit hard, while much of the developing world has seemed to get off lightly.

But the overwhelming majority of the 6.7m or so deaths that nobody has counted have been in poor and middle-income countries.

The virus has spread remorselessly from rich countries to poorer ones—and it is still doing so. Our findings contain an urgent warning.

Unless vaccines go global, the tragic scenes now unfolding in India risk being repeated elsewhere. Millions more will die.


FULL ARTICLE:

Leaders
May 15th 2021 edition


The pandemic
Ten million reasons to vaccinate the world
Our model reveals the true course of the pandemic. Here is what to do next


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This week we publish our estimate of the true death toll from covid-19. It tells the real story of the pandemic. But it also contains an urgent warning. Unless vaccine supplies reach poorer countries, the tragic scenes now unfolding in India risk being repeated elsewhere. Millions more will die.

Using known data on 121 variables, from recorded deaths to demography, we have built a pattern of correlations that lets us fill in gaps where numbers are lacking. Our model suggests that covid-19 has already claimed 7.1m-12.7m lives. Our central estimate is that 10m people have died who would otherwise be living. This tally of “excess deaths” is over three times the official count, which nevertheless is the basis for most statistics on the disease, including fatality rates and cross-country comparisons.

The most important insight from our work is that covid-19 has been harder on the poor than anyone knew. Official figures suggest that the pandemic has struck in waves, and that the United States and Europe have been hit hard. Although South America has been ravaged, the rest of the developing world seemed to get off lightly.

Our modelling tells another story. When you count all the bodies, you see that the pandemic has spread remorselessly from the rich, connected world to poorer, more isolated places. As it has done so, the global daily death rate has climbed steeply.

Death rates have been very high in some rich countries, but the overwhelming majority of the 6.7m or so deaths that nobody counted were in poor and middle-income ones. In Romania and Iran excess deaths are more than double the number officially put down to covid-19. In Egypt they are 13 times as big. In America the difference is 7.1%.


India, where about 20,000 are dying every day, is not an outlier. Our figures suggest that, in terms of deaths as a share of population, Peru’s pandemic has been 2.5 times worse than India’s. The disease is working its way through Nepal and Pakistan. Infectious variants spread faster and, because of the tyranny of exponential growth, overwhelm health-care systems and fill mortuaries even if the virus is no more lethal.

Ultimately the way to stop this is vaccination. As an example of collaboration and pioneering science, covid-19 vaccines rank with the Apollo space programme. Within just a year of the virus being discovered, people could be protected from severe disease and death. Hundreds of millions of them have benefited.

However, in the short run vaccines will fuel the divide between rich and poor. Soon, the only people to die from covid-19 in rich countries will be exceptionally frail or exceptionally unlucky, as well as those who have spurned the chance to be vaccinated. In poorer countries, by contrast, most people will have no choice. They will remain unprotected for many months or years.

The world cannot rest while people perish for want of a jab costing as little as $4 for a two-dose course. It is hard to think of a better use of resources than vaccination. Economists’ central estimate for the direct value of a course is $2,900—if you include factors like long covid and the effect of impaired education, the total is much bigger. The benefit from an extra 1bn doses supplied by July would be worth hundreds of billions of dollars. Less circulating virus means less mutation, and so a lower chance of a new variant that reinfects the vaccinated.



Supplies of vaccines are already growing. By the end of April, according to Airfinity, an analytics firm, vaccine-makers produced 1.7bn doses, 700m more than the end of March and ten times more than January. Before the pandemic, annual global vaccine capacity was roughly 3.5bn doses. The latest estimates are that total output in 2021 will be almost 11bn. Some in the industry predict a global surplus in 2022.

And yet the world is right to strive to get more doses in more arms sooner. Hence President Joe Biden has proposed waiving intellectual-property claims on covid-19 vaccines. Many experts argue that, because some manufacturing capacity is going begging, millions more doses might become available if patent-owners shared their secrets, including in countries that today are at the back of the queue. World-trade rules allow for a waiver. When invoke them if not in the throes of a pandemic?

We believe that Mr Biden is wrong. A waiver may signal that his administration cares about the world, but it is at best an empty gesture and at worst a cynical one.

A waiver will do nothing to fill the urgent shortfall of doses in 2021. The head of the World Trade Organisation, the forum where it will be thrashed out, warns there may be no vote until December. Technology transfer would take six months or so to complete even if it started today. With the new mrna vaccines made by Pfizer and Moderna, it may take longer. Supposing the tech transfer was faster than that, experienced vaccine-makers would be unavailable for hire and makers could not obtain inputs from suppliers whose order books are already bursting. Pfizer’s vaccine requires 280 inputs from suppliers in 19 countries. No firm can recreate that in a hurry.

In any case, vaccine-makers do not appear to be hoarding their technology—otherwise output would not be increasing so fast. They have struck 214 technology-transfer agreements, an unprecedented number. They are not price-gouging: money is not the constraint on vaccination. Poor countries are not being priced out of the market: their vaccines are coming through covax, a global distribution scheme funded by donors.

In the longer term, the effect of a waiver is unpredictable. Perhaps it will indeed lead to technology being transferred to poor countries; more likely, though, it will cause harm by disrupting supply chains, wasting resources and, ultimately, deterring innovation. Whatever the case, if vaccines are nearing a surplus in 2022, the cavalry will arrive too late.

A needle in time
If Mr Biden really wants to make a difference, he can donate vaccine right now through covax. Rich countries over-ordered because they did not know which vaccines would work. Britain has ordered more than nine doses for each adult, Canada more than 13. These will be urgently needed elsewhere. It is wrong to put teenagers, who have a minuscule risk of dying from covid-19, before the elderly and health-care workers in poor countries. The rich world should not stockpile boosters to cover the population many times over on the off-chance that they may be needed. In the next six months, this could yield billions of doses of vaccine.


Countries can also improve supply chains. The Serum Institute, an Indian vaccine-maker, has struggled to get parts such as filters from America because exports were gummed up by the Defence Production Act (dpa), which puts suppliers on a war-footing. Mr Biden authorised a one-off release, but he should be focusing the dpa on supplying the world instead. And better use needs to be made of finished vaccine. In some poor countries, vaccine languishes unused because of hesitancy and chaotic organisation. It makes sense to prioritise getting one shot into every vulnerable arm, before setting about the second.

Our model is not predictive. However it does suggest that some parts of the world are particularly vulnerable—one example is South-East Asia, home to over 650m people, which has so far been spared mass fatalities for no obvious reason. Covid-19 has not yet run its course. But vaccines have created the chance to save millions of lives. The world must not squander it. ■

Dig deeper

All our stories relating to the pandemic and the vaccines can be found on our coronavirus hub. You can also listen to The Jab, our podcast on the race between injections and infections, and find trackers showing the global roll-out of vaccines, excess deaths by country and the virus’s spread across Europe and America.

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This article appeared in the Leaders section of the print edition under the headline "Vaccinating the world"

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Postby MaxPower » May 13th, 2021, 2:37 pm

Good afternoon Team,

How we looking today?

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Postby pugboy » May 13th, 2021, 3:10 pm

team let’s try to not be consumed by covid news too much today
try and let your mind go from that for today at least
there is little in our control of this right now

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Postby goalpost » May 13th, 2021, 3:31 pm

Hate to sound so flippant, but waz d numbers today shakes?

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Postby tropi_flakes » May 13th, 2021, 3:55 pm

Hearing 397 by 16 deaths floating around some groups.

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 13th, 2021, 3:59 pm

375+ x 13 unconfirmed

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