COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[pugboy]

private industry taking their own lead now,
how ironic

More businesses closed.FB_IMG_1621010917685.jpeg

[redmanjp]

1 weeks not going to be enough though. what about all the non-essential public sector offices labelled as essential?

[Gem_in_i]

[aaron17]

hmmmmm..wut?

[zoom rader]

Who in charge?

PNM.

UNC has NO say.

Well it seems UNC is running the show as they are getting blamed left right and centre for Covid-19.

Looks like UNC when to Tobago for lime .

No proactive measures was put in place but kams getting blame. On Fb the red government idiots even blaming it an Indian Virus .

[widdyphuck]

Another one

[zoom rader]

Yup when the red government fails as usual they look to Jah. These red government people are the most evil wicked souls they have. Most go to those money making jump and wave fake churches and then turn around to say Hindus worship idiots.

Habit7 is one of those idiots, just read the religious chead where he shows his true colours as a racist when dealing with Indians.

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[aaron17]

closing down too little too late..more ppl will die

[zoom rader]

closing down too little too late..more ppl will die

All because the red government saw the opportunity to steal an election by telling people Rowlair did a good job managing Covid.

Remember right before elections red government idiots was all phrasing Rowlair for a job well done. What they did not know that the red government hid the real covid figures from the public.

[widdyphuck]

closing down too little too late..more ppl will die

All because the red government saw the opportunity to steal an election by telling people Rowlair did a good job managing Covid.

Remember right before elections red government idiots was all phrasing Rowlair for a job well done. What they did not know that the red government hid the real covid figures from the public.

He ain't want to accept responsibility for the current situation we in when he clearly told everyone to go Tobago.

[elec2020]

the only thing that we haven't done yet is call a SOE. Um, idk if that is needed to get people to do what is right. Maybe it is as some employers still have staff coming into work when they can do stuff on woh. Also, no matter when u come out your home u still seeing numerous cars on the road. Meaning that people still congregating. I remember seeing someone at the grocery day before who came in same time as me. And when i reached by the cashier (like 30-40 mins later, i bought a lot of stuff) my guy was there as well with what must have been under 10 items. Some people so thusty for social interactions that maybe we need a SOE to stop that.

You think an SOE will work ?

The name of the game is to reduce numbers in the parallel system..until we can get the vaccines to reach herd immunity.
Lockdown or partial lockdown is like jumping high or jumping low on the graph.
The virus is there..it cannot be gone like that. It will always spike up whenever there is an ease in the lockdown.
Its beyond me that the govt allowed what happened on easter. We coulda ban that just like carnival....smh

at this point in time the point is to reduce cases. People still lining up for pies (in Linda's and Massy for example). People still going up and down (idk if its to conduct essential business or just to get out of home). A SOE may help enforce movement restrictions and thus lower cases at a faster rate. As it stands now, this lockdown will be stretched (imo) till maybe august/september. If we have an SOE, it may only be stretched to July. Thats just my view on things. Idk about 50,000 people travelling to Tobago in a weekend. You saying that nearly twice the island's population was there over a weekend. As well as the ferry's and planes could accommodate 50,000 people over such a short point in time? Idk. Also, if Tobago was the cause of the rise in infections then where are the large number of cases for Tobago (i think they got 5 yesterday)? let's stop politicizing the thing. As it does nothing but breed hate and discontent. The last things we need right now.

In the week leading up to the Easter long holiday weekend, over 50,000 people travelled between Trinidad and Tobago, both on the air and sea bridge.
This, according to Works and Transport Minister Rohan Sinanan, who said the figure represented a seven-day count of travel between the islands.
“The figures that we have so far, we have estimated over 50,000 people would have travelled that week of Easter, back and forth, that was a significant improvement,” Sinanan said.
He congratulated Caribbean Airlines, the Port Authority and the National Infrastructure Development Company Limited for facilitating the transportation of so many people without any challenges.
“What was astonishing is that we have not heard anyone complain about the efficiencies of the sea bridge and the air bridge. I want to congratulate the people at CAL, the people at the port and the people at NIDCO for doing a fantastic job because we had in excess of 50,000 people moving back and forth and everything ran smoothly even though we are in a pandemic.”
Sinanan said Holy Thursday and Good Friday were the two days recorded with the highest number of passengers both by plane and boat.
However, he said an increase in travellers was seen from the weekend before.
“We used it from the weekend to the weekend, so it represents a seven-day count but it is a significant increase and we were able to do it quite comfortably.”
Sinanan said the ferries that operate between the islands are doing so at 75 per cent capacity in keeping with COVID-19 Public Health Regulations.

https://www.cnc3.co.tt/50000-travelled- ... -minister/
 

Back and forth implies double counting imo. So roughly around 25,000 people travelled. That is more in line with ferry and plane limitations as well as the island's ability to facilitate more people living on it (tobago's population is about 61,000... 50,000 people extra on it would be unimaginable). I think the Minister like every politician was playing creative with the stats given lose language like.... “The figures that we have so far, we have estimated over 50,000 people would have travelled that week of Easter, back and forth, that was a significant improvement,” Sinanan said.

[ST Auto]

They only closing cz they will get a 50k fine for selling/transporting construction material

[widdyphuck]

10 more cases in Tobago.

[Habit7]

The government knew a rise in cases was coming from mid-March. Parasram admitted that publicly and said he warned officials who ignored him.

That alone should have led to pubic inquiries and bacchanal, and led to Deyalsingh's resignation. But alas PNM media silent and UNC studying tent.

When did Dr. Roshan Parasram say this?

Martin Daly's Sunday editorial mentioned it.

https://wired868.com/2021/05/09/daly-br ... ent-spike/

Daly Bread: The March warning—Dr Parasram let slip the govt’s responsibility in current spike

The working week began with a shock, as a result of which we must ask the Minister of Health for truthful answers.

The Prime Minister hosted a news conference on Monday last, in which he announced increased lockdowns. At that event, our trusted Chief Medical Officer, Dr Roshan Parasram, disclosed that he had drawn attention to “the worrying trend of climbing Covid-19-positive numbers since early March”. He did so after more ministerial lectures about our personal responsibility not to contribute to the further spread of the Covid-19 virus by “gathering”.

In passing, I wondered again about gatherings put on by those within the Government’s close political circles, which might contribute to spread. My curiosity grew when Dr Parasram also disclosed that “the contact tracers say that a lot of contacts are coming from private gatherings”. I had raised a red flag last Sunday about condonation of “society” events held contrary to ministerial and other exhortations.

The Monday news conference began with Dr Avery Hinds, our equally trusted Chief Epidemiologist, presenting graphs to show that we are currently experiencing the highest number of Covid infections since August/September 2020 (election time). Dr Maryam Abdool-Richards, Principal Medical Officer—Institutions, followed to warn us that the capacity of the parallel healthcare system could reach collapse in days.

These presentations were the prelude for the PM’s stern alarm about our now perilous situation regarding virus spread. Many of us were not shocked at how perilous the situation had become because we were aware of the “gathering” big time, as well as some of the madness that Easter would bring. The Government stood aside when it knew or ought to have known what an unrestricted Easter would bring.

Over 50,000 persons travelled between Trinidad and Tobago in the week leading up to the long Easter holiday weekend, according to Minister Rohan Sinanan, who was proud of the smooth operation of the air and sea bridges. He congratulated the persons responsible for “a fantastic job” in moving that number of people smoothly “even though we are in a pandemic”.

Reference to this is not intended to fault lovely Tobago or Tobagonians. It simply further demonstrates officials blowing hot and cold about “gathering”, yet blaming those who were infected by the “free-up-for-Easter” atmosphere. The shock was not from the foreseeable Easter fallout. It was Dr Parasram’s disclosure, expressed in the words of the next three paragraphs, that shocked me. Added to that, on Friday last, the PM acknowledged “the laxness starting in mid-March”.

“If you recall, I had said in the early part of March that we noticed a considerable increase. People at the time thought that it was too small. I thought that it was enough to cause a significant increase in terms of a snowball-type effect.

“If it started in early March, just because we were going into a season—as you know, Easter was coming up—there was a period where we expected an increased number of people coming together.

“When you take this kind of increase it goes on top the next, so you double, then you go into a quadruple very fast. If you think about a snowball, the effect is exactly like a snowball. You start small and, very quickly, you go to two, to four, to six, to eight and then to 16, and that is what we are seeing in the graphs that Dr Hinds would have presented”.

Who were “the people who thought the increase was too small”? Minister of Health, was that you? Were there political considerations requiring stimulation of the Tobago domestic tourism economy in light of the six-six Tobago electoral tie?

Those who cast aside Dr Parasram’s early March observation would be boldfaced to reprimand ordinary citizens without shouldering their own responsibility for what appears to be a horrible but foreseeable Easter outcome, given Dr Parasram’s warning and other pointers about rapid spread likely to come out of the Easter weekend.

Is it now clear that the increased lockdowns, not imposed earlier following the March warning, are fatally late; and the persistent, but now abandoned, attempted denials of the South American variant slipping through porous borders were deceiving?

March 11th is when we had enough data to know we needed to lockdown. Not a month a later.

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Thanks I do remember him saying this during a conference last week. Glad to know someone else like Daly took it up as well.

Dr Parasram never "said he warned officials who ignored him." You mixing Daly's opinion with what Dr Parasram actually said.

Speaking during a Ministry of Health virtual press conference on Monday, Dr Parasram noted the increase came within the last week.
“First, we had seven (cases); then we had a spike of 10; and now we have 14 new cases over the last 24 hours,” he said.
“Prior to that, we had been hovering anywhere between a seven-day rolling average of 3 or four for upwards of over a month or more,” the CMO pointed out.
The cases, he indicated, all came from County Caroni, where there were about three major clusters.https://www.cnc3.co.tt/covid-19-cases-rising-warns-cmo/

Red flags have gone up with a spike in Covid-19 cases and three deaths related the virus in the past 24 hours.
The death toll is now 145.
Speaking at the Health Ministry’s virtual news conference yesterday, Chief Medical Officer (CMO) Dr Roshan Parasram said the data suggests the upsurge is driven by recreational and contact sports, which will now be rolled back and banned until further notice.
He said the rise in numbers also stemmed from what appears to be a breakdown in the adherence to public health guidelines.
Forty-six new cases were recorded in the past 24 hours—a drastic increase compared to the single-digit numbers recorded in January and February

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... d2504.html

He never said officials were not listening to him. In fact Dr Rowley repeated his claim about county Caroni and UNC issued a press release calling him divisive. Dr Parasram said it was being driven by recreational sport and they reintroduced the ban on sports and I am sure in this thread many of you opposed that too.

So don't put words in his mouth. And don't repeat UNC talking points here and when the get refute start to cry UNC not relevant. They have to be relevant for you to be parroting their misinformation.

[Devourment]

The government knew a rise in cases was coming from mid-March. Parasram admitted that publicly and said he warned officials who ignored him.

That alone should have led to pubic inquiries and bacchanal, and led to Deyalsingh's resignation. But alas PNM media silent and UNC studying tent.

When did Dr. Roshan Parasram say this?

Martin Daly's Sunday editorial mentioned it.

https://wired868.com/2021/05/09/daly-br ... ent-spike/

Daly Bread: The March warning—Dr Parasram let slip the govt’s responsibility in current spike

The working week began with a shock, as a result of which we must ask the Minister of Health for truthful answers.

The Prime Minister hosted a news conference on Monday last, in which he announced increased lockdowns. At that event, our trusted Chief Medical Officer, Dr Roshan Parasram, disclosed that he had drawn attention to “the worrying trend of climbing Covid-19-positive numbers since early March”. He did so after more ministerial lectures about our personal responsibility not to contribute to the further spread of the Covid-19 virus by “gathering”.

In passing, I wondered again about gatherings put on by those within the Government’s close political circles, which might contribute to spread. My curiosity grew when Dr Parasram also disclosed that “the contact tracers say that a lot of contacts are coming from private gatherings”. I had raised a red flag last Sunday about condonation of “society” events held contrary to ministerial and other exhortations.

The Monday news conference began with Dr Avery Hinds, our equally trusted Chief Epidemiologist, presenting graphs to show that we are currently experiencing the highest number of Covid infections since August/September 2020 (election time). Dr Maryam Abdool-Richards, Principal Medical Officer—Institutions, followed to warn us that the capacity of the parallel healthcare system could reach collapse in days.

These presentations were the prelude for the PM’s stern alarm about our now perilous situation regarding virus spread. Many of us were not shocked at how perilous the situation had become because we were aware of the “gathering” big time, as well as some of the madness that Easter would bring. The Government stood aside when it knew or ought to have known what an unrestricted Easter would bring.

Over 50,000 persons travelled between Trinidad and Tobago in the week leading up to the long Easter holiday weekend, according to Minister Rohan Sinanan, who was proud of the smooth operation of the air and sea bridges. He congratulated the persons responsible for “a fantastic job” in moving that number of people smoothly “even though we are in a pandemic”.

Reference to this is not intended to fault lovely Tobago or Tobagonians. It simply further demonstrates officials blowing hot and cold about “gathering”, yet blaming those who were infected by the “free-up-for-Easter” atmosphere. The shock was not from the foreseeable Easter fallout. It was Dr Parasram’s disclosure, expressed in the words of the next three paragraphs, that shocked me. Added to that, on Friday last, the PM acknowledged “the laxness starting in mid-March”.

“If you recall, I had said in the early part of March that we noticed a considerable increase. People at the time thought that it was too small. I thought that it was enough to cause a significant increase in terms of a snowball-type effect.

“If it started in early March, just because we were going into a season—as you know, Easter was coming up—there was a period where we expected an increased number of people coming together.

“When you take this kind of increase it goes on top the next, so you double, then you go into a quadruple very fast. If you think about a snowball, the effect is exactly like a snowball. You start small and, very quickly, you go to two, to four, to six, to eight and then to 16, and that is what we are seeing in the graphs that Dr Hinds would have presented”.

Who were “the people who thought the increase was too small”? Minister of Health, was that you? Were there political considerations requiring stimulation of the Tobago domestic tourism economy in light of the six-six Tobago electoral tie?

Those who cast aside Dr Parasram’s early March observation would be boldfaced to reprimand ordinary citizens without shouldering their own responsibility for what appears to be a horrible but foreseeable Easter outcome, given Dr Parasram’s warning and other pointers about rapid spread likely to come out of the Easter weekend.

Is it now clear that the increased lockdowns, not imposed earlier following the March warning, are fatally late; and the persistent, but now abandoned, attempted denials of the South American variant slipping through porous borders were deceiving?

March 11th is when we had enough data to know we needed to lockdown. Not a month a later.

Screenshot 2021-05-14 at 12.36.15 pm.png

Thanks I do remember him saying this during a conference last week. Glad to know someone else like Daly took it up as well.

Dr Parasram never "said he warned officials who ignored him." You mixing Daly's opinion with what Dr Parasram actually said.

Speaking during a Ministry of Health virtual press conference on Monday, Dr Parasram noted the increase came within the last week.
“First, we had seven (cases); then we had a spike of 10; and now we have 14 new cases over the last 24 hours,” he said.
“Prior to that, we had been hovering anywhere between a seven-day rolling average of 3 or four for upwards of over a month or more,” the CMO pointed out.
The cases, he indicated, all came from County Caroni, where there were about three major clusters.https://www.cnc3.co.tt/covid-19-cases-rising-warns-cmo/

Red flags have gone up with a spike in Covid-19 cases and three deaths related the virus in the past 24 hours.
The death toll is now 145.
Speaking at the Health Ministry’s virtual news conference yesterday, Chief Medical Officer (CMO) Dr Roshan Parasram said the data suggests the upsurge is driven by recreational and contact sports, which will now be rolled back and banned until further notice.
He said the rise in numbers also stemmed from what appears to be a breakdown in the adherence to public health guidelines.
Forty-six new cases were recorded in the past 24 hours—a drastic increase compared to the single-digit numbers recorded in January and February

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... d2504.html

He never said officials were not listening to him. In fact Dr Rowley repeated his claim about county Caroni and UNC issued a press release calling him divisive. Dr Parasram said it was being driven by recreational sport and they reintroduced the ban on sports and I am sure in this thread many of you opposed that too.

So don't put words in his mouth. And don't repeat UNC talking points here and when the get refute start to cry UNC not relevant. They have to be relevant for you to be parroting their misinformation.

I am definitely NOT a UNC, I actually (reluctantly) voted for PNM in August.

I watched the conference where he said it, he clearly meant he wanted to those in authority to act sooner but the didn't.

Who were “the people who thought the increase was too small”? Minister of Health, was that you? Were there political considerations requiring stimulation of the Tobago domestic tourism economy in light of the six-six Tobago electoral tie?

[Habit7]

closing down too little too late..more ppl will die

All because the red government saw the opportunity to steal an election by telling people Rowlair did a good job managing Covid.

Remember right before elections red government idiots was all phrasing Rowlair for a job well done. What they did not know that the red government hid the real covid figures from the public.

He ain't want to accept responsibility for the current situation we in when he clearly told everyone to go Tobago.

1 week before Easter vacation when hotels, flights and ferries were all booked up, in response to that he said
https://youtu.be/nCYp4PerWKo?t=2929

you know what's happening now
Tobago is almost full and overflowing
the place to be is in Tobago
and I tell you the best vacation you can
have at home in Trinidad and Tobago is
in Tobago
go to Tobago if you want but when you go
to behave yourself
behave yourself we are in a pandemic
wear your mask stay away from crows no
partying
and so on and so on and you can have a
wonderful easter in Tobago
nobody asks you to go and see I'm
building a mask on your face
but when you come out of the water
before you go to anybody
put on your mask and everybody gonna be
all right
and that for me is a success of the
people
of Trinidad and Tobago
[Applause]

[Habit7]

I watched the conference where he said it, he clearly meant he wanted to those in authority to act sooner but the didn't.

Who were “the people who thought the increase was too small”? Minister of Health, was that you? Were there political considerations requiring stimulation of the Tobago domestic tourism economy in light of the six-six Tobago electoral tie?

“the people who thought the increase was too small”

This is what he said. To say that he said the officials didn't respond is conjecture, he never said that.

[zoom rader]

I watched the conference where he said it, he clearly meant he wanted to those in authority to act sooner but the didn't.

Who were “the people who thought the increase was too small”? Minister of Health, was that you? Were there political considerations requiring stimulation of the Tobago domestic tourism economy in light of the six-six Tobago electoral tie?

“the people who thought the increase was too small”

This is what he said. To say that he said the officials didn't respond is conjecture, he never said that.

Stupes, this the arsehole spin you go come with

[redmanjp]

https://www.facebook.com/OPMTT/posts/1436196826732828

Prime Minister Dr the Hon Keith Rowley has declared Sunday 23rd May, 2021 a National Day of Prayer.
The service will be broadcast live on TTT.

2 Chronicles 7:14

"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

[gastly369]

When it reach to this... Know we in deep chit

https://www.facebook.com/OPMTT/posts/1436196826732828

Prime Minister Dr the Hon Keith Rowley has declared Sunday 23rd May, 2021 a National Day of Prayer.
The service will be broadcast live on TTT.

[zoom rader]

When it reach to this... Know we in deep chit

https://www.facebook.com/OPMTT/posts/1436196826732828

Prime Minister Dr the Hon Keith Rowley has declared Sunday 23rd May, 2021 a National Day of Prayer.
The service will be broadcast live on TTT.

Obeah government

[jsali]

We need ah obeah day, too... Try everything..

[The_Honourable]

I watched the conference where he said it, he clearly meant he wanted to those in authority to act sooner but the didn't.

Who were “the people who thought the increase was too small”? Minister of Health, was that you? Were there political considerations requiring stimulation of the Tobago domestic tourism economy in light of the six-six Tobago electoral tie?

“the people who thought the increase was too small”

This is what he said. To say that he said the officials didn't respond is conjecture, he never said that.

Stupes, this the arsehole spin you go come with

The spin from the obvious is amazing

[Habit7]

Tuner: *makes a false claim*
Me: No, this is the claim and this is the cited quotation
Tuner: stop spinning!!!

[zoom rader]

Tuner: *makes a false claim*
Me: No, this is the claim and this is the cited quotation
Tuner: stop spinning!!!

Why not quote the truth for once rather than this false post you put up under bailiser House instructions.

You Spinning more that a pig in 5hit

[Devourment]

Tuner: *makes a false claim*
Me: No, this is the claim and this is the cited quotation
Tuner: stop spinning!!!

Which people you think he talking about? he wife and mammy?

[Habit7]

Tuner: *makes a false claim*
Me: No, this is the claim and this is the cited quotation
Tuner: stop spinning!!!

Which people you think he talking about? he wife and mammy?

You

The government knew a rise in cases was coming from mid-March. Parasram admitted that publicly and said he warned officials who ignored him.

That alone should have led to pubic inquiries and bacchanal, and led to Deyalsingh's resignation. But alas PNM media silent and UNC studying tent.

When did Dr. Roshan Parasram say this?

[elec2020]

when they can't refute u they resort to insults.

[aaron17]

Thread turn political..

[redmanjp]

so today's deaths going to make a century for the month so far?