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So who won the pandemic debate?

Poll ended at August 3rd, 2023, 3:48 pm

Antivaxxers - Ah still alive! babylon cyah kill me!
6
43%
Covidians - Small pin does chook hard but it save the world.
6
43%
Me eh care - Allyuh keep arguing nah man, ah wining on dis bumper right here.
2
14%
 
Total votes: 14

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » January 28th, 2023, 5:23 pm

sMASH wrote:I interested. Could a poll be put up to see how many jabs people have taken?

To get out of the complexity of primary 1st and secondary second doses... Just post up a poll.

How many jabs u took?
0
1
2
3
4
5
6


I Jess interested.
That's not a poll. You need to start a new thread. And get tuners to vote. In the thread.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby paid_influencer » January 28th, 2023, 5:31 pm

sMASH wrote:MSNBC MAINNNNNNNSTREAM media host says people NEEDDD to get boosted, or suffer like him cause he didn't boost.
Cause that's how vaccines work

https://youtube.com/watch?v=B3JkMR87izA ... IECMiOmarE


yea at this point few ppl actually up to date on their jabs so is just a thing the public health authority can point to and say yea not their fault don't blame them

easier to redirect blame than do the hard stuff like mandating paid-leave for isolation for all workers at all levels and occupations

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » January 28th, 2023, 11:31 pm

sMASH wrote:https://youtube.com/watch?v=sidjKoHS6NE&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE


Soooo, the UK ban the Vax fur under 50....
They say targeting groups..
But more like targeted away from most groups.



*adnj: they're wrong*
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CLAIM: The United Kingdom is banning anyone under the age of 50 from getting COVID-19 vaccines.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. While the country will stop widely providing the vaccine to those under 50 next month, anyone deemed to have a clinical need, such as those at risk of severe illness, as well as frontline healthcare workers and caregivers, will still be able to get the shot.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby drchaos » January 29th, 2023, 9:45 pm

timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
redmanjp wrote:If the vax didn't use the spike protein from the virus would it be safer?
That's the only difference from now and the other vaxes in the past.


If I ever come in a position to steer a health program, I will not recommend mRNA for broadcast vaccination. Only use it fur target medical procedures... Like the cancer application.


Use the old, tried and tested ways.
All current COVID vaccines contain the SARS-COV-2 spike protein.
Inactivated would have a broader specrtum of markers, offering a better analog to the live virus, and less risk from one specific potential flaw.

Will ban mRNA



SARS-CoV-2 enters the human host cell using the S protein. S protein specific antibodies prevent the virus from entering human cells.

What you posted is just something that was made up.
The amount of break tru covee infections, prove that is a lie.

*take the mRNA, they said. It will stop covee, they said*
Lulzz.
That's not what they said.After two whole years of this thread, you still have zero clue as to how vaccines work.Also, the average cepep worker stop using 'covee'.They now referring to it as 'the roners' . Keep up mate.


Timelapse memory real lapsin :lol:

Man forget the whole take the jab to stop the spread song.

But I guess when facts conveniently don't add up people just blank them out so they can be comfortable with their reality.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby drchaos » January 29th, 2023, 9:47 pm

maj. tom wrote:rather than the intelligence of a primate....


:shock: If you're turned on by lemurs and Bushbabies who am I to judge ...

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » January 29th, 2023, 10:54 pm

drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
redmanjp wrote:If the vax didn't use the spike protein from the virus would it be safer?
That's the only difference from now and the other vaxes in the past.


If I ever come in a position to steer a health program, I will not recommend mRNA for broadcast vaccination. Only use it fur target medical procedures... Like the cancer application.


Use the old, tried and tested ways.
All current COVID vaccines contain the SARS-COV-2 spike protein.
Inactivated would have a broader specrtum of markers, offering a better analog to the live virus, and less risk from one specific potential flaw.

Will ban mRNA



SARS-CoV-2 enters the human host cell using the S protein. S protein specific antibodies prevent the virus from entering human cells.

What you posted is just something that was made up.
The amount of break tru covee infections, prove that is a lie.

*take the mRNA, they said. It will stop covee, they said*
Lulzz.
That's not what they said.After two whole years of this thread, you still have zero clue as to how vaccines work.Also, the average cepep worker stop using 'covee'.They now referring to it as 'the roners' . Keep up mate.

Timelapse memory real lapsin

Man forget the whole take the jab to stop the spread song.

But I guess when facts conveniently don't add up people just blank them out so they can be comfortable with their reality.


Old information from a year ago that you have apparently blanked out so that you can be comfortable with your reality. Omicron is the culprit.

Vaccinated people also had less viral variation than unvaccinated people. It is likely that the mutations occured in the immunocompromised and unvaccinated at a rate higher than in people that were vaccinated. Have a read:


Image

One way in which viral variants can become dominant is by increasing their transmissibility, through faster replication or an enhanced ability to spread outside the body. Another route to dominance uses an increased ability to escape from immune systems that have learnt — through infection or vaccination — to recognize the virus.

Delta achieved its dominance with the former method: the virus could replicate much faster and to higher levels than could previous variants. “Delta did a lot of things through brute force,” says Nathan Grubaugh, an epidemiologist at Yale School of Public Health in New Haven, Connecticut. Omicron seems to replicate even more quickly than Delta, but the number of virus particles in the body never reaches the same level, suggesting that the variant’s advantage lies elsewhere. ...

Infected people who had received two vaccine doses had almost two times higher odds of having Omicron than Delta, and those who had received three doses had three times higher odds of having Omicron.

That suggests that the Omicron variant is much better than Delta at breaking through the immunity conferred by vaccines.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00283-4

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » January 30th, 2023, 6:38 am

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:https://youtube.com/watch?v=sidjKoHS6NE&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE


Soooo, the UK ban the Vax fur under 50....
They say targeting groups..
But more like targeted away from most groups.



*adnj: they're wrong*
Image

CLAIM: The United Kingdom is banning anyone under the age of 50 from getting COVID-19 vaccines.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. While the country will stop widely providing the vaccine to those under 50 next month, anyone deemed to have a clinical need, such as those at risk of severe illness, as well as frontline healthcare workers and caregivers, will still be able to get the shot.
Sooo, it banned for healthy people where the risk/benefit ratio isn't met.


Again, if ur healthy u don't need it. And if ur not healthy, u could still get infected and/or blood clots.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » January 30th, 2023, 6:39 am

adnj wrote:
drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:That's the only difference from now and the other vaxes in the past.


If I ever come in a position to steer a health program, I will not recommend mRNA for broadcast vaccination. Only use it fur target medical procedures... Like the cancer application.


Use the old, tried and tested ways.
All current COVID vaccines contain the SARS-COV-2 spike protein.
Inactivated would have a broader specrtum of markers, offering a better analog to the live virus, and less risk from one specific potential flaw.

Will ban mRNA



SARS-CoV-2 enters the human host cell using the S protein. S protein specific antibodies prevent the virus from entering human cells.

What you posted is just something that was made up.
The amount of break tru covee infections, prove that is a lie.

*take the mRNA, they said. It will stop covee, they said*
Lulzz.
That's not what they said.After two whole years of this thread, you still have zero clue as to how vaccines work.Also, the average cepep worker stop using 'covee'.They now referring to it as 'the roners' . Keep up mate.

Timelapse memory real lapsin

Man forget the whole take the jab to stop the spread song.

But I guess when facts conveniently don't add up people just blank them out so they can be comfortable with their reality.


Old information from a year ago that you have apparently blanked out so that you can be comfortable with your reality. Omicron is the culprit.

Vaccinated people also had less viral variation than unvaccinated people. It is likely that the mutations occured in the immunocompromised and unvaccinated at a rate higher than in people that were vaccinated. Have a read:


Image

One way in which viral variants can become dominant is by increasing their transmissibility, through faster replication or an enhanced ability to spread outside the body. Another route to dominance uses an increased ability to escape from immune systems that have learnt — through infection or vaccination — to recognize the virus.

Delta achieved its dominance with the former method: the virus could replicate much faster and to higher levels than could previous variants. “Delta did a lot of things through brute force,” says Nathan Grubaugh, an epidemiologist at Yale School of Public Health in New Haven, Connecticut. Omicron seems to replicate even more quickly than Delta, but the number of virus particles in the body never reaches the same level, suggesting that the variant’s advantage lies elsewhere. ...

Infected people who had received two vaccine doses had almost two times higher odds of having Omicron than Delta, and those who had received three doses had three times higher odds of having Omicron.

That suggests that the Omicron variant is much better than Delta at breaking through the immunity conferred by vaccines.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00283-4
"likely" meaning they just making sheit up with out doing the stats to prove their point.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » January 30th, 2023, 6:45 am

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:https://youtube.com/watch?v=sidjKoHS6NE&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE


Soooo, the UK ban the Vax fur under 50....
They say targeting groups..
But more like targeted away from most groups.



*adnj: they're wrong*
Image


CLAIM: The United Kingdom is banning anyone under the age of 50 from getting COVID-19 vaccines.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. While the country will stop widely providing the vaccine to those under 50 next month, anyone deemed to have a clinical need, such as those at risk of severe illness, as well as frontline healthcare workers and caregivers, will still be able to get the shot.
Sooo, it banned for healthy people where the risk/benefit ratio isn't met.


Again, if ur healthy u don't need it. And if ur not healthy, u could still get infected and/or blood clots.
UK NHS is the only source of COVID vaccines in the UK. Vaccines are not being made available to people at less risk because of the cost of making them available.
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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » January 30th, 2023, 6:46 am

drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
redmanjp wrote:If the vax didn't use the spike protein from the virus would it be safer?
That's the only difference from now and the other vaxes in the past.


If I ever come in a position to steer a health program, I will not recommend mRNA for broadcast vaccination. Only use it fur target medical procedures... Like the cancer application.


Use the old, tried and tested ways.
All current COVID vaccines contain the SARS-COV-2 spike protein.
Inactivated would have a broader specrtum of markers, offering a better analog to the live virus, and less risk from one specific potential flaw.

Will ban mRNA



SARS-CoV-2 enters the human host cell using the S protein. S protein specific antibodies prevent the virus from entering human cells.

What you posted is just something that was made up.
The amount of break tru covee infections, prove that is a lie.

*take the mRNA, they said. It will stop covee, they said*
Lulzz.
That's not what they said.After two whole years of this thread, you still have zero clue as to how vaccines work.Also, the average cepep worker stop using 'covee'.They now referring to it as 'the roners' . Keep up mate.


Timelapse memory real lapsin

Man forget the whole take the jab to stop the spread song.

But I guess when facts conveniently don't add up people just blank them out so they can be comfortable with their reality.
It had men saying they taking the jab cause they don't want to spread it to their grand parents.

But the trial data BEFOOOOORE it got emergency approval showed too many person still getting post infection.. So the chance of spreading it was still high enough that it wasn't a good enough safeguard measure to protect the elderly.


Remeber they saying before the Vax that u need 60% immunity to have heard immunity.
Then as the Vax got taken into the populations and the vaxed was still getting infected, thst figure changed to 70, then 80. Until the mantra was thst there is no such thing as heard immunity.


The science didn't change, just the real world performance and the statistics.

It no such thing as heard immunity with mRNA vaxes.. Lol. Cause mRNA is gene therapy and should be given on a case by case bespoke basis.



It have plenty vaxers worried what will happen to them in the next 5 years.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby timelapse » January 30th, 2023, 6:48 am

adnj wrote:
drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:That's the only difference from now and the other vaxes in the past.


If I ever come in a position to steer a health program, I will not recommend mRNA for broadcast vaccination. Only use it fur target medical procedures... Like the cancer application.


Use the old, tried and tested ways.
All current COVID vaccines contain the SARS-COV-2 spike protein.
Inactivated would have a broader specrtum of markers, offering a better analog to the live virus, and less risk from one specific potential flaw.

Will ban mRNA



SARS-CoV-2 enters the human host cell using the S protein. S protein specific antibodies prevent the virus from entering human cells.

What you posted is just something that was made up.
The amount of break tru covee infections, prove that is a lie.

*take the mRNA, they said. It will stop covee, they said*
Lulzz.
That's not what they said.After two whole years of this thread, you still have zero clue as to how vaccines work.Also, the average cepep worker stop using 'covee'.They now referring to it as 'the roners' . Keep up mate.

Timelapse memory real lapsin

Man forget the whole take the jab to stop the spread song.

But I guess when facts conveniently don't add up people just blank them out so they can be comfortable with their reality.


Old information from a year ago that you have apparently blanked out so that you can be comfortable with your reality. Omicron is the culprit.

Vaccinated people also had less viral variation than unvaccinated people. It is likely that the mutations occured in the immunocompromised and unvaccinated at a rate higher than in people that were vaccinated. Have a read:


Image

One way in which viral variants can become dominant is by increasing their transmissibility, through faster replication or an enhanced ability to spread outside the body. Another route to dominance uses an increased ability to escape from immune systems that have learnt — through infection or vaccination — to recognize the virus.

Delta achieved its dominance with the former method: the virus could replicate much faster and to higher levels than could previous variants. “Delta did a lot of things through brute force,” says Nathan Grubaugh, an epidemiologist at Yale School of Public Health in New Haven, Connecticut. Omicron seems to replicate even more quickly than Delta, but the number of virus particles in the body never reaches the same level, suggesting that the variant’s advantage lies elsewhere. ...

Infected people who had received two vaccine doses had almost two times higher odds of having Omicron than Delta, and those who had received three doses had three times higher odds of having Omicron.

That suggests that the Omicron variant is much better than Delta at breaking through the immunity conferred by vaccines.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00283-4
2023 after the fact,they lost the argument and still fighting to be right.Them guys clearly have nothing of importance in their lives to be thinking about.If only they could analyse the state of the economy so well....

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » January 30th, 2023, 6:52 am

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
drchaos wrote:[spoiler]
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:All current COVID vaccines contain the SARS-COV-2 spike protein.
Inactivated would have a broader specrtum of markers, offering a better analog to the live virus, and less risk from one specific potential flaw.

Will ban mRNA

SARS-CoV-2 enters the human host cell using the S protein. S protein specific antibodies prevent the virus from entering human cells.

What you posted is just something that was made up.
The amount of break tru covee infections, prove that is a lie.

*take the mRNA, they said. It will stop covee, they said*
Lulzz.
That's not what they said.After two whole years of this thread, you still have zero clue as to how vaccines work.Also, the average cepep worker stop using 'covee'.They now referring to it as 'the roners' . Keep up mate.
[/spoiler]
Timelapse memory real lapsin

Man forget the whole take the jab to stop the spread song.

But I guess when facts conveniently don't add up people just blank them out so they can be comfortable with their reality.


Old information from a year ago that you have apparently blanked out so that you can be comfortable with your reality. Omicron is the culprit.

Vaccinated people also had less viral variation than unvaccinated people. It is likely that the mutations occured in the immunocompromised and unvaccinated at a rate higher than in people that were vaccinated. Have a read:


Image

One way in which viral variants can become dominant is by increasing their transmissibility, through faster replication or an enhanced ability to spread outside the body. Another route to dominance uses an increased ability to escape from immune systems that have learnt — through infection or vaccination — to recognize the virus.

Delta achieved its dominance with the former method: the virus could replicate much faster and to higher levels than could previous variants. “Delta did a lot of things through brute force,” says Nathan Grubaugh, an epidemiologist at Yale School of Public Health in New Haven, Connecticut. Omicron seems to replicate even more quickly than Delta, but the number of virus particles in the body never reaches the same level, suggesting that the variant’s advantage lies elsewhere. ...

Infected people who had received two vaccine doses had almost two times higher odds of having Omicron than Delta, and those who had received three doses had three times higher odds of having Omicron.

That suggests that the Omicron variant is much better than Delta at breaking through the immunity conferred by vaccines.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00283-4
"likely" meaning they just making sheit up with out doing the stats to prove their point.


Likely, meaning probable but not ignoring other possibilities.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » January 30th, 2023, 6:54 am

sMASH wrote:
drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:That's the only difference from now and the other vaxes in the past.


If I ever come in a position to steer a health program, I will not recommend mRNA for broadcast vaccination. Only use it fur target medical procedures... Like the cancer application.


Use the old, tried and tested ways.
All current COVID vaccines contain the SARS-COV-2 spike protein.
Inactivated would have a broader specrtum of markers, offering a better analog to the live virus, and less risk from one specific potential flaw.

Will ban mRNA



SARS-CoV-2 enters the human host cell using the S protein. S protein specific antibodies prevent the virus from entering human cells.

What you posted is just something that was made up.
The amount of break tru covee infections, prove that is a lie.

*take the mRNA, they said. It will stop covee, they said*
Lulzz.
That's not what they said.After two whole years of this thread, you still have zero clue as to how vaccines work.Also, the average cepep worker stop using 'covee'.They now referring to it as 'the roners' . Keep up mate.


Timelapse memory real lapsin

Man forget the whole take the jab to stop the spread song.

But I guess when facts conveniently don't add up people just blank them out so they can be comfortable with their reality.
It had men saying they taking the jab cause they don't want to spread it to their grand parents.

But the trial data BEFOOOOORE it got emergency approval showed too many person still getting post infection.. So the chance of spreading it was still high enough that it wasn't a good enough safeguard measure to protect the elderly.


Remeber they saying before the Vax that u need 60% immunity to have heard immunity.
Then as the Vax got taken into the populations and the vaxed was still getting infected, thst figure changed to 70, then 80. Until the mantra was thst there is no such thing as heard immunity.


The science didn't change, just the real world performance and the statistics.

It no such thing as heard immunity with mRNA vaxes.. Lol. Cause mRNA is gene therapy and should be given on a case by case bespoke basis.



It have plenty vaxers worried what will happen to them in the next 5 years.
Herd immunity targets shifted with each more transmissible variant. It is highly likely that COVID would not have mutated as quickly if more people had vaccinated due to fewer replications of the virus in infected hosts.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » January 30th, 2023, 6:58 am

timelapse wrote:
adnj wrote:
drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:All current COVID vaccines contain the SARS-COV-2 spike protein.
Inactivated would have a broader specrtum of markers, offering a better analog to the live virus, and less risk from one specific potential flaw.

Will ban mRNA



SARS-CoV-2 enters the human host cell using the S protein. S protein specific antibodies prevent the virus from entering human cells.

What you posted is just something that was made up.
The amount of break tru covee infections, prove that is a lie.

*take the mRNA, they said. It will stop covee, they said*
Lulzz.
That's not what they said.After two whole years of this thread, you still have zero clue as to how vaccines work.Also, the average cepep worker stop using 'covee'.They now referring to it as 'the roners' . Keep up mate.

Timelapse memory real lapsin

Man forget the whole take the jab to stop the spread song.

But I guess when facts conveniently don't add up people just blank them out so they can be comfortable with their reality.


Old information from a year ago that you have apparently blanked out so that you can be comfortable with your reality. Omicron is the culprit.

Vaccinated people also had less viral variation than unvaccinated people. It is likely that the mutations occured in the immunocompromised and unvaccinated at a rate higher than in people that were vaccinated. Have a read:


Image

One way in which viral variants can become dominant is by increasing their transmissibility, through faster replication or an enhanced ability to spread outside the body. Another route to dominance uses an increased ability to escape from immune systems that have learnt — through infection or vaccination — to recognize the virus.

Delta achieved its dominance with the former method: the virus could replicate much faster and to higher levels than could previous variants. “Delta did a lot of things through brute force,” says Nathan Grubaugh, an epidemiologist at Yale School of Public Health in New Haven, Connecticut. Omicron seems to replicate even more quickly than Delta, but the number of virus particles in the body never reaches the same level, suggesting that the variant’s advantage lies elsewhere. ...

Infected people who had received two vaccine doses had almost two times higher odds of having Omicron than Delta, and those who had received three doses had three times higher odds of having Omicron.

That suggests that the Omicron variant is much better than Delta at breaking through the immunity conferred by vaccines.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00283-4
2023 after the fact,they lost the argument and still fighting to be right.Them guys clearly have nothing of importance in their lives to be thinking about.If only they could analyse the state of the economy so well....


That was published a year ago. That was the result of models based on SARS-CoV-1 and proved to be more accurate than expected.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » January 30th, 2023, 8:01 am

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:All current COVID vaccines contain the SARS-COV-2 spike protein.
Inactivated would have a broader specrtum of markers, offering a better analog to the live virus, and less risk from one specific potential flaw.

Will ban mRNA



SARS-CoV-2 enters the human host cell using the S protein. S protein specific antibodies prevent the virus from entering human cells.

What you posted is just something that was made up.
The amount of break tru covee infections, prove that is a lie.

*take the mRNA, they said. It will stop covee, they said*
Lulzz.
That's not what they said.After two whole years of this thread, you still have zero clue as to how vaccines work.Also, the average cepep worker stop using 'covee'.They now referring to it as 'the roners' . Keep up mate.


Timelapse memory real lapsin

Man forget the whole take the jab to stop the spread song.

But I guess when facts conveniently don't add up people just blank them out so they can be comfortable with their reality.
It had men saying they taking the jab cause they don't want to spread it to their grand parents.

But the trial data BEFOOOOORE it got emergency approval showed too many person still getting post infection.. So the chance of spreading it was still high enough that it wasn't a good enough safeguard measure to protect the elderly.


Remeber they saying before the Vax that u need 60% immunity to have heard immunity.
Then as the Vax got taken into the populations and the vaxed was still getting infected, thst figure changed to 70, then 80. Until the mantra was thst there is no such thing as heard immunity.


The science didn't change, just the real world performance and the statistics.

It no such thing as heard immunity with mRNA vaxes.. Lol. Cause mRNA is gene therapy and should be given on a case by case bespoke basis.



It have plenty vaxers worried what will happen to them in the next 5 years.
Herd immunity targets shifted with each more transmissible variant. It is highly likely that COVID would not have mutated as quickly if more people had vaccinated due to fewer replications of the virus in infected hosts.
It shifted cause the vax was sheit at stopping transmission.
The seller sold u all dreams.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » January 30th, 2023, 9:08 am

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Misrepresents source: The EuroMOMO bulletin published on the second week of 2023 clarified that the system didn’t actually detect excess deaths in people aged 0 to 14, despite Campbell’s claim to the contrary.

Inadequate support: There’s insufficient evidence to support Campbell’s claim that the excess deaths are unrelated to COVID-19 and evidence suggesting otherwise. Studies show that getting COVID-19 can lead to health problems later down the road, including cardiovascular disorders like stroke and heart inflammation. Therefore, COVID-19 can continue to contribute to excess deaths even months after someone has recovered from the initial infection.

KEY TAKE AWAY
There’s no question that countries in the Western world continued to see excess deaths in 2022, despite COVID-19 vaccines having been introduced in late 2020 to combat the pandemic. Vaccine skeptics have expressed the view that COVID-19 vaccination is to blame for these excess deaths. However, published studies show that vaccinated people aren’t more likely to die than unvaccinated people. This view is therefore inconsistent with the scientific evidence. Various other issues, such as long COVID and strain on healthcare systems, are more plausible explanations for excess mortality.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby timelapse » January 30th, 2023, 9:33 am

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Inactivated would have a broader specrtum of markers, offering a better analog to the live virus, and less risk from one specific potential flaw.

Will ban mRNA



SARS-CoV-2 enters the human host cell using the S protein. S protein specific antibodies prevent the virus from entering human cells.

What you posted is just something that was made up.
The amount of break tru covee infections, prove that is a lie.

*take the mRNA, they said. It will stop covee, they said*
Lulzz.
That's not what they said.After two whole years of this thread, you still have zero clue as to how vaccines work.Also, the average cepep worker stop using 'covee'.They now referring to it as 'the roners' . Keep up mate.


Timelapse memory real lapsin

Man forget the whole take the jab to stop the spread song.

But I guess when facts conveniently don't add up people just blank them out so they can be comfortable with their reality.
It had men saying they taking the jab cause they don't want to spread it to their grand parents.

But the trial data BEFOOOOORE it got emergency approval showed too many person still getting post infection.. So the chance of spreading it was still high enough that it wasn't a good enough safeguard measure to protect the elderly.


Remeber they saying before the Vax that u need 60% immunity to have heard immunity.
Then as the Vax got taken into the populations and the vaxed was still getting infected, thst figure changed to 70, then 80. Until the mantra was thst there is no such thing as heard immunity.


The science didn't change, just the real world performance and the statistics.

It no such thing as heard immunity with mRNA vaxes.. Lol. Cause mRNA is gene therapy and should be given on a case by case bespoke basis.



It have plenty vaxers worried what will happen to them in the next 5 years.
Herd immunity targets shifted with each more transmissible variant. It is highly likely that COVID would not have mutated as quickly if more people had vaccinated due to fewer replications of the virus in infected hosts.
It shifted cause the vax was sheit at stopping transmission.
The seller sold u all dreams.
How can you say the vax was sheit if people like you weren't taking it.Thats like saying seatbelts ineffective and you not buckling up

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » January 30th, 2023, 7:56 pm

......

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » January 30th, 2023, 8:08 pm

timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:

SARS-CoV-2 enters the human host cell using the S protein. S protein specific antibodies prevent the virus from entering human cells.

What you posted is just something that was made up.
The amount of break tru covee infections, prove that is a lie.

*take the mRNA, they said. It will stop covee, they said*
Lulzz.
That's not what they said.After two whole years of this thread, you still have zero clue as to how vaccines work.Also, the average cepep worker stop using 'covee'.They now referring to it as 'the roners' . Keep up mate.


Timelapse memory real lapsin

Man forget the whole take the jab to stop the spread song.

But I guess when facts conveniently don't add up people just blank them out so they can be comfortable with their reality.
It had men saying they taking the jab cause they don't want to spread it to their grand parents.

But the trial data BEFOOOOORE it got emergency approval showed too many person still getting post infection.. So the chance of spreading it was still high enough that it wasn't a good enough safeguard measure to protect the elderly.


Remeber they saying before the Vax that u need 60% immunity to have heard immunity.
Then as the Vax got taken into the populations and the vaxed was still getting infected, thst figure changed to 70, then 80. Until the mantra was thst there is no such thing as heard immunity.


The science didn't change, just the real world performance and the statistics.

It no such thing as heard immunity with mRNA vaxes.. Lol. Cause mRNA is gene therapy and should be given on a case by case bespoke basis.



It have plenty vaxers worried what will happen to them in the next 5 years.
Herd immunity targets shifted with each more transmissible variant. It is highly likely that COVID would not have mutated as quickly if more people had vaccinated due to fewer replications of the virus in infected hosts.
It shifted cause the vax was sheit at stopping transmission.
The seller sold u all dreams.
How can you say the vax was sheit if people like you weren't taking it.Thats like saying seatbelts ineffective and you not buckling up
Never buckled up before it was enforced.

How to manage ur health to success.
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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby timelapse » January 30th, 2023, 8:21 pm

sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:The amount of break tru covee infections, prove that is a lie.

*take the mRNA, they said. It will stop covee, they said*
Lulzz.
That's not what they said.After two whole years of this thread, you still have zero clue as to how vaccines work.Also, the average cepep worker stop using 'covee'.They now referring to it as 'the roners' . Keep up mate.


Timelapse memory real lapsin

Man forget the whole take the jab to stop the spread song.

But I guess when facts conveniently don't add up people just blank them out so they can be comfortable with their reality.
It had men saying they taking the jab cause they don't want to spread it to their grand parents.

But the trial data BEFOOOOORE it got emergency approval showed too many person still getting post infection.. So the chance of spreading it was still high enough that it wasn't a good enough safeguard measure to protect the elderly.


Remeber they saying before the Vax that u need 60% immunity to have heard immunity.
Then as the Vax got taken into the populations and the vaxed was still getting infected, thst figure changed to 70, then 80. Until the mantra was thst there is no such thing as heard immunity.


The science didn't change, just the real world performance and the statistics.

It no such thing as heard immunity with mRNA vaxes.. Lol. Cause mRNA is gene therapy and should be given on a case by case bespoke basis.



It have plenty vaxers worried what will happen to them in the next 5 years.
Herd immunity targets shifted with each more transmissible variant. It is highly likely that COVID would not have mutated as quickly if more people had vaccinated due to fewer replications of the virus in infected hosts.
It shifted cause the vax was sheit at stopping transmission.
The seller sold u all dreams.
How can you say the vax was sheit if people like you weren't taking it.Thats like saying seatbelts ineffective and you not buckling up
Never buckled up before it was enforced.

How to manage ur health to success.
IMG_20230129_082653.jpg
Oho.
Statistically you not dead yet.
Makes sense

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » January 31st, 2023, 6:21 am

timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:That's not what they said.After two whole years of this thread, you still have zero clue as to how vaccines work.Also, the average cepep worker stop using 'covee'.They now referring to it as 'the roners' . Keep up mate.


Timelapse memory real lapsin

Man forget the whole take the jab to stop the spread song.

But I guess when facts conveniently don't add up people just blank them out so they can be comfortable with their reality.
It had men saying they taking the jab cause they don't want to spread it to their grand parents.

But the trial data BEFOOOOORE it got emergency approval showed too many person still getting post infection.. So the chance of spreading it was still high enough that it wasn't a good enough safeguard measure to protect the elderly.


Remeber they saying before the Vax that u need 60% immunity to have heard immunity.
Then as the Vax got taken into the populations and the vaxed was still getting infected, thst figure changed to 70, then 80. Until the mantra was thst there is no such thing as heard immunity.


The science didn't change, just the real world performance and the statistics.

It no such thing as heard immunity with mRNA vaxes.. Lol. Cause mRNA is gene therapy and should be given on a case by case bespoke basis.



It have plenty vaxers worried what will happen to them in the next 5 years.
Herd immunity targets shifted with each more transmissible variant. It is highly likely that COVID would not have mutated as quickly if more people had vaccinated due to fewer replications of the virus in infected hosts.
It shifted cause the vax was sheit at stopping transmission.
The seller sold u all dreams.
How can you say the vax was sheit if people like you weren't taking it.Thats like saying seatbelts ineffective and you not buckling up
Never buckled up before it was enforced.

How to manage ur health to success.
IMG_20230129_082653.jpg
Oho.
Statistically you not dead yet.
Makes sense
Yes... And dint need to worry bout vaccine injury, on top of covee infection

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » January 31st, 2023, 6:41 am

Wear ur mask to prevent the spread of covee,, it worked the first times
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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby timelapse » January 31st, 2023, 6:43 am

sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
drchaos wrote:
Timelapse memory real lapsin

Man forget the whole take the jab to stop the spread song.

But I guess when facts conveniently don't add up people just blank them out so they can be comfortable with their reality.
It had men saying they taking the jab cause they don't want to spread it to their grand parents.

But the trial data BEFOOOOORE it got emergency approval showed too many person still getting post infection.. So the chance of spreading it was still high enough that it wasn't a good enough safeguard measure to protect the elderly.


Remeber they saying before the Vax that u need 60% immunity to have heard immunity.
Then as the Vax got taken into the populations and the vaxed was still getting infected, thst figure changed to 70, then 80. Until the mantra was thst there is no such thing as heard immunity.


The science didn't change, just the real world performance and the statistics.

It no such thing as heard immunity with mRNA vaxes.. Lol. Cause mRNA is gene therapy and should be given on a case by case bespoke basis.



It have plenty vaxers worried what will happen to them in the next 5 years.
Herd immunity targets shifted with each more transmissible variant. It is highly likely that COVID would not have mutated as quickly if more people had vaccinated due to fewer replications of the virus in infected hosts.
It shifted cause the vax was sheit at stopping transmission.
The seller sold u all dreams.
How can you say the vax was sheit if people like you weren't taking it.Thats like saying seatbelts ineffective and you not buckling up
Never buckled up before it was enforced.

How to manage ur health to success.
IMG_20230129_082653.jpg
Oho.
Statistically you not dead yet.
Makes sense
Yes... And dint need to worry bout vaccine injury, on top of covee infection
So you still fraid needles

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » January 31st, 2023, 6:44 am

I want them to bring back covee passports and safe zones. So that u can be SURE not to get covee because every one there is certified fully vaxed.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » January 31st, 2023, 6:45 am

timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:It had men saying they taking the jab cause they don't want to spread it to their grand parents.

But the trial data BEFOOOOORE it got emergency approval showed too many person still getting post infection.. So the chance of spreading it was still high enough that it wasn't a good enough safeguard measure to protect the elderly.


Remeber they saying before the Vax that u need 60% immunity to have heard immunity.
Then as the Vax got taken into the populations and the vaxed was still getting infected, thst figure changed to 70, then 80. Until the mantra was thst there is no such thing as heard immunity.


The science didn't change, just the real world performance and the statistics.

It no such thing as heard immunity with mRNA vaxes.. Lol. Cause mRNA is gene therapy and should be given on a case by case bespoke basis.



It have plenty vaxers worried what will happen to them in the next 5 years.
Herd immunity targets shifted with each more transmissible variant. It is highly likely that COVID would not have mutated as quickly if more people had vaccinated due to fewer replications of the virus in infected hosts.
It shifted cause the vax was sheit at stopping transmission.
The seller sold u all dreams.
How can you say the vax was sheit if people like you weren't taking it.Thats like saying seatbelts ineffective and you not buckling up
Never buckled up before it was enforced.

How to manage ur health to success.
IMG_20230129_082653.jpg
Oho.
Statistically you not dead yet.
Makes sense
Yes... And dint need to worry bout vaccine injury, on top of covee infection
So you still fraid needles
When it have mRNA in it.. Yes.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby matix » January 31st, 2023, 6:53 am

sMASH wrote:Wear ur mask to prevent the spread of covee,, it worked the first times
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Haha, I like that pic. Good idea to scare some people.
@ brother Smash, is taking the vaccine a personal choice?

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » January 31st, 2023, 7:05 am

matix wrote:
sMASH wrote:Wear ur mask to prevent the spread of covee,, it worked the first times
FB_IMG_1674838356437.jpg



Haha, I like that pic. Good idea to scare some people.
@ brother Smash, is taking the vaccine a personal choice?
When your money keeps getting tighter, your team keeps losing, the government doesn't care, your family doesn't listen, and you're getting closer to the grave everyday, antivax proves that you're still in control.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » February 1st, 2023, 8:39 am

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(CNN) Covid-19 has become the eighth most common cause of death among children in the United States, according to a study published Monday.

Children are significantly less likely to die from Covid-19 than any other age group -- less than 1% of all deaths since the start of the pandemic have been among those younger than 18, according to federal data. Covid-19 has been the third leading cause of death in the broader population.

But it's rare for children to die for any reason, the researchers wrote, so the burden of Covid-19 is best understood in the context of other pediatric deaths.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/30/health/c ... index.html

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » February 1st, 2023, 3:45 pm

https://youtube.com/watch?v=UXUGF1y-wVM ... IECMiOmarE


Take ur booster to prevent heart attacks, cause EVERYYYYYTHING causing heart attacks now...
Except fur one thing....

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby aaron17 » February 1st, 2023, 3:52 pm

Everything causing cancer too...i guess enjoy things in moderation?

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