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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby alfa » January 12th, 2023, 10:08 pm

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timelapse wrote:Any thoughts Jared?
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There were men in the Titanic that went on the life boats even when they were designated for women and children, alot of them were crew members. Some men were rushing onto them as well.

This is also the few times that this was done, in almost every other maritime disaster, it is usually the men (especially the crew) who would put precedence on their ownselves as opposed to others.

For Ukraine, there are mothers out there who would have to raise their children. It's better to have at least one parent than to involuntarily orphan a child. Women are allowed to serve in the military and have been part of the conflict.

Feminists have often viewed the sinking of the Titanic as an example of the dangers of patriarchy and inequality in society. Women and children were prioritized for rescue, while men had to make way on the limited space. This has prompted feminist authors to consider whether rescue efforts during tragedy are based on gender assumptions that favor certain groups over others.

In discussing current conflict between Russia and Ukraine, feminists have discussed the importance of respecting national boundaries while also advocating for gender-equal outcomes that privilege those most affected by violence—women and children. They regard it as important to recognize how interventions in conflict may impact both male and female civilians differently, especially when it comes to humanitarian aid distribution. Feminists also urge world powers to be cautious when intervening in conflict zones and ensure that any decisions taken account for the disproportionate impacts on women’s security, opportunities and well-being.


Can you show or direct us to stats indicating that in the current Russia-Ukraine war, those most affected by violence are women and children?

One would be inclined to think that the ones most affected by violence are the men who are doing the actual fighting and dying

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby DMan7 » January 12th, 2023, 10:12 pm

I think it goes back to what everyone has known for ages but hasn't admitted, it's that men by an large in any society in the world for centuries are disposable while everyone else are protected. I think Chris Rock covered it best when he said "Women, Children and even dogs are loved unconditionally while men are only loved under the condition they can provide something". Imagine a dog or family pet has more precedence in a household than the man.

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby Jared Mohammed » January 13th, 2023, 7:26 am

The_Honourable wrote:
Can you show or direct us to stats indicating that in the current Russia-Ukraine war, those most affected by violence are women and children?



Women and children are amongst the most affected group by violence in the current Russia-Ukraine conflict. This is due to a number of factors such as direct military targeting, gross human rights violations, psychological trauma and displacement.

Firstly, women are particularly vulnerable to direct targeting as a result of their gender roles. In some cases, female combatants have been brutally attacked in order to demoralize their male cohorts. Furthermore, since women well often assume the role of peace-builders and their involvement is seen as an acceptable way of promoting stability; they become highly prone to kidnapping and other forms of physical abuse by warring parties.

Secondly, human rights violations committed against women in Ukraine include rape (including sexual slavery) and forced sterilization. It has also been reported that there has been a significant increase in trafficking networks that exploit desperate Ukrainian women during this conflict. Additionally, many reports state that Ukrainian authorities have taken steps to limit access to reproductive health care services for pregnant women or those looking for family planning support near or within conflict areas as a result of government restrictions related to state security policies.

Thirdly, children both suffer psychological trauma from having their innocence ripped away at an early age because of witnessing horrific events due to war, ranging from the death of parents or simply seeing the everyday reality caused by the conflict. Additionally, disruption of education affects all age groups disproportionately but more so towards children since they are deprived from advancing their knowledge and social development which can lead to an inability to get employment when they reach young adulthoods severely reducing their chances of leading meaningful lives after the war ends.

Finally, displacement can cause families to relocate or become internally displaced persons (IDPs). Women are often on the frontline securing safety for themselves and any children involved once uprooted from their original environment thus having potentially detrimental effects on their mental health due to heightened anxiety levels facing unknown conditions every day alongside additional external influences such as primitive living resources which might lead them into poverty even further than before.


In conclusion, overall it is clear that women and children have been especially affected by widespread violence within Ukraine’s current crisis due both direct military targeting and indirect side-effects stemming from disrupted life patterns. Whereas both must be acknowledged for minimalisation at full recovery may not be possible until all mentioned high risk issues highlighted above relating specifically towards these vulnerable groups are resolved together with quick implementation times being placed an utmost priority on behalf all those effected by this continuing regional tragedy.

According to a report published by the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), women have been particularly affected by the conflict in eastern Ukraine, with their livelihoods being especially hard hit. The report states that the violence and displacement caused by the conflict continues to exacerbate gender inequalities in access to economic opportunities, housing, health facilities, education and social services. Women-led households make up 80% of those that are internally displaced due to the conflict, or over 1 million people. In addition, lack of sufficient humanitarian assistance has exacerbated existing vulnerabilities among women-headed households.

Furthermore, there is also evidence from UN Women and other human rights organizations that indicate that some women have been subject to sexual harassment and other forms of gender-based violence as a result of the conflict. This includes cases of forced marriage, domestic abuse and intimate partner violence. These issues are particularly serious in areas held back by insurgent groups where there is weak rule of law or no state presence.

Overall, it is clear that women in both Russia and Ukraine have suffered disproportionately from the current war than their male counterparts due a range of issues such as displacement, loss of economic opportunities, lack of freedom of movement and vulnerability to gender-based violence.

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Re: Domestic Violence

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby The_Honourable » January 13th, 2023, 10:09 am

Jared Mohammed wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Can you show or direct us to stats indicating that in the current Russia-Ukraine war, those most affected by violence are women and children?



Women and children are amongst the most affected group by violence in the current Russia-Ukraine conflict. This is due to a number of factors such as direct military targeting, gross human rights violations, psychological trauma and displacement.

Firstly, women are particularly vulnerable to direct targeting as a result of their gender roles. In some cases, female combatants have been brutally attacked in order to demoralize their male cohorts. Furthermore, since women well often assume the role of peace-builders and their involvement is seen as an acceptable way of promoting stability; they become highly prone to kidnapping and other forms of physical abuse by warring parties.

Secondly, human rights violations committed against women in Ukraine include rape (including sexual slavery) and forced sterilization. It has also been reported that there has been a significant increase in trafficking networks that exploit desperate Ukrainian women during this conflict. Additionally, many reports state that Ukrainian authorities have taken steps to limit access to reproductive health care services for pregnant women or those looking for family planning support near or within conflict areas as a result of government restrictions related to state security policies.

Thirdly, children both suffer psychological trauma from having their innocence ripped away at an early age because of witnessing horrific events due to war, ranging from the death of parents or simply seeing the everyday reality caused by the conflict. Additionally, disruption of education affects all age groups disproportionately but more so towards children since they are deprived from advancing their knowledge and social development which can lead to an inability to get employment when they reach young adulthoods severely reducing their chances of leading meaningful lives after the war ends.

Finally, displacement can cause families to relocate or become internally displaced persons (IDPs). Women are often on the frontline securing safety for themselves and any children involved once uprooted from their original environment thus having potentially detrimental effects on their mental health due to heightened anxiety levels facing unknown conditions every day alongside additional external influences such as primitive living resources which might lead them into poverty even further than before.


In conclusion, overall it is clear that women and children have been especially affected by widespread violence within Ukraine’s current crisis due both direct military targeting and indirect side-effects stemming from disrupted life patterns. Whereas both must be acknowledged for minimalisation at full recovery may not be possible until all mentioned high risk issues highlighted above relating specifically towards these vulnerable groups are resolved together with quick implementation times being placed an utmost priority on behalf all those effected by this continuing regional tragedy.

According to a report published by the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), women have been particularly affected by the conflict in eastern Ukraine, with their livelihoods being especially hard hit. The report states that the violence and displacement caused by the conflict continues to exacerbate gender inequalities in access to economic opportunities, housing, health facilities, education and social services. Women-led households make up 80% of those that are internally displaced due to the conflict, or over 1 million people. In addition, lack of sufficient humanitarian assistance has exacerbated existing vulnerabilities among women-headed households.

Furthermore, there is also evidence from UN Women and other human rights organizations that indicate that some women have been subject to sexual harassment and other forms of gender-based violence as a result of the conflict. This includes cases of forced marriage, domestic abuse and intimate partner violence. These issues are particularly serious in areas held back by insurgent groups where there is weak rule of law or no state presence.

Overall, it is clear that women in both Russia and Ukraine have suffered disproportionately from the current war than their male counterparts due a range of issues such as displacement, loss of economic opportunities, lack of freedom of movement and vulnerability to gender-based violence.



What you explained there is happening to woman and children. They are affected by the war in different ways, no denying that. That being said, you haven't answered my question.

"Can you show or direct us to stats indicating that in the current Russia-Ukraine war, those most affected by violence are women and children?"

Bluntly, i'm asking for numbers.

You're stating implicitly that women and children are affected more by violence than men. When it comes down to the numbers, what I am seeing so far is that as of 2022, the causalities are higher for men. Granted, there are thousands of bodies that are so badly mutilated that identifying who the person was and their biological sex is challenging to be tallied. There is the rare occurrence that when certain ukranian communities or villages are destroyed by russian forces, and the mortality numbers are counted, women tally higher than men. The gap is small tho and does not affect the overall tally.

So while your explanation has validity, you need stats to back it up. You mentioning women led household, although may be true, is not enough.

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby timelapse » January 13th, 2023, 10:15 am

Jared Mohammed wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Can you show or direct us to stats indicating that in the current Russia-Ukraine war, those most affected by violence are women and children?



Women and children are amongst the most affected group by violence in the current Russia-Ukraine conflict. This is due to a number of factors such as direct military targeting, gross human rights violations, psychological trauma and displacement.

Firstly, women are particularly vulnerable to direct targeting as a result of their gender roles. In some cases, female combatants have been brutally attacked in order to demoralize their male cohorts. Furthermore, since women well often assume the role of peace-builders and their involvement is seen as an acceptable way of promoting stability; they become highly prone to kidnapping and other forms of physical abuse by warring parties.

Secondly, human rights violations committed against women in Ukraine include rape (including sexual slavery) and forced sterilization. It has also been reported that there has been a significant increase in trafficking networks that exploit desperate Ukrainian women during this conflict. Additionally, many reports state that Ukrainian authorities have taken steps to limit access to reproductive health care services for pregnant women or those looking for family planning support near or within conflict areas as a result of government restrictions related to state security policies.

Thirdly, children both suffer psychological trauma from having their innocence ripped away at an early age because of witnessing horrific events due to war, ranging from the death of parents or simply seeing the everyday reality caused by the conflict. Additionally, disruption of education affects all age groups disproportionately but more so towards children since they are deprived from advancing their knowledge and social development which can lead to an inability to get employment when they reach young adulthoods severely reducing their chances of leading meaningful lives after the war ends.

Finally, displacement can cause families to relocate or become internally displaced persons (IDPs). Women are often on the frontline securing safety for themselves and any children involved once uprooted from their original environment thus having potentially detrimental effects on their mental health due to heightened anxiety levels facing unknown conditions every day alongside additional external influences such as primitive living resources which might lead them into poverty even further than before.


In conclusion, overall it is clear that women and children have been especially affected by widespread violence within Ukraine’s current crisis due both direct military targeting and indirect side-effects stemming from disrupted life patterns. Whereas both must be acknowledged for minimalisation at full recovery may not be possible until all mentioned high risk issues highlighted above relating specifically towards these vulnerable groups are resolved together with quick implementation times being placed an utmost priority on behalf all those effected by this continuing regional tragedy.

According to a report published by the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), women have been particularly affected by the conflict in eastern Ukraine, with their livelihoods being especially hard hit. The report states that the violence and displacement caused by the conflict continues to exacerbate gender inequalities in access to economic opportunities, housing, health facilities, education and social services. Women-led households make up 80% of those that are internally displaced due to the conflict, or over 1 million people. In addition, lack of sufficient humanitarian assistance has exacerbated existing vulnerabilities among women-headed households.

Furthermore, there is also evidence from UN Women and other human rights organizations that indicate that some women have been subject to sexual harassment and other forms of gender-based violence as a result of the conflict. This includes cases of forced marriage, domestic abuse and intimate partner violence. These issues are particularly serious in areas held back by insurgent groups where there is weak rule of law or no state presence.

Overall, it is clear that women in both Russia and Ukraine have suffered disproportionately from the current war than their male counterparts due a range of issues such as displacement, loss of economic opportunities, lack of freedom of movement and vulnerability to gender-based violence.
Its easy to say that you are treated disproportionately as a gender when the folks in the other gender are dead or dying.
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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby 88sins » January 13th, 2023, 5:36 pm

See that term "gender based violence"? It's a very misleading term, that's been used to wrongfully and i dare say intentionally denote violence perpetrated on women by men, but not necessarily the other way around. But let's get something clear.

I'm yet to meet the man that beats his woman to a frazzle at the mere sight of her, simply and solely because she's in fact a woman.

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby timelapse » January 13th, 2023, 6:15 pm

88sins wrote:See that term "gender based violence"? It's a very misleading term, that's been used to wrongfully and i dare say intentionally denote violence perpetrated on women by men, but not necessarily the other way around. But let's get something clear.

I'm yet to meet the man that beats his woman to a frazzle at the mere sight of her, simply and solely because she's in fact a woman.
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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby Jared Mohammed » January 14th, 2023, 6:41 am

88sins wrote:See that term "gender based violence"? It's a very misleading term, that's been used to wrongfully and i dare say intentionally denote violence perpetrated on women by men, but not necessarily the other way around. But let's get something clear.

I'm yet to meet the man that beats his woman to a frazzle at the mere sight of her, simply and solely because she's in fact a woman.


Most victims of domestic violence are women, and most perpetrators are men. That doesn't mean women cannot be the perpetrators and men the victims. But that is the reason why there is a greater focus put on them but that doesn't mean the other is left out.

They do so because of the environment they were brought up on where rape culture was the norm and having being violence enforced and instills this patriarchal "quota" onto their spouses and, potentially, children.

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby The_Honourable » January 14th, 2023, 12:12 pm

Jared Mohammed wrote:
88sins wrote:See that term "gender based violence"? It's a very misleading term, that's been used to wrongfully and i dare say intentionally denote violence perpetrated on women by men, but not necessarily the other way around. But let's get something clear.

I'm yet to meet the man that beats his woman to a frazzle at the mere sight of her, simply and solely because she's in fact a woman.


Most victims of domestic violence are women, and most perpetrators are men. That doesn't mean women cannot be the perpetrators and men the victims. But that is the reason why there is a greater focus put on them but that doesn't mean the other is left out.

They do so because of the environment they were brought up on where rape culture was the norm and having being violence enforced and instills this patriarchal "quota" onto their spouses and, potentially, children.


If you want to go down this "rape culture" argument which modern day feminists intentionally blur the lines, your previous and current profile photo is encouraging rape culture if you really think about it not so?

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby matr1x » January 14th, 2023, 12:50 pm

If you count nagging and verbal abuse, women beat men in domestic violence numbers.



Wait, verbal abuse is domestic abuse

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby adnj » January 14th, 2023, 1:25 pm

matr1x wrote:If you count nagging and verbal abuse, women beat men in domestic violence numbers.



Wait, verbal abuse is domestic abuse
Then by that metric, with all your bitcching and moaning, you're an abusive woman.

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Re: Domestic Violence

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby timelapse » January 14th, 2023, 1:34 pm

Jared Mohammed wrote:
88sins wrote:See that term "gender based violence"? It's a very misleading term, that's been used to wrongfully and i dare say intentionally denote violence perpetrated on women by men, but not necessarily the other way around. But let's get something clear.

I'm yet to meet the man that beats his woman to a frazzle at the mere sight of her, simply and solely because she's in fact a woman.


Most victims of domestic violence are women, and most perpetrators are men. That doesn't mean women cannot be the perpetrators and men the victims. But that is the reason why there is a greater focus put on them but that doesn't mean the other is left out.

They do so because of the environment they were brought up on where rape culture was the norm and having being violence enforced and instills this patriarchal "quota" onto their spouses and, potentially, children.
What sheit you talking girl? Try being a man reporting that a woman beat you up to the police.Nobody takes the abuse of men seriously.But that leads to another issue.If you,as a man getting beat up by women, you need to man tf up.Your women are disrespecting you because you are not the man you should be.

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby matr1x » January 14th, 2023, 1:46 pm

adnj wrote:
matr1x wrote:If you count nagging and verbal abuse, women beat men in domestic violence numbers.



Wait, verbal abuse is domestic abuse
Then by that metric, with all your bitcching and moaning, you're an abusive woman.


That's probably the only time you ever hear a woman moan

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby MaxPower » January 14th, 2023, 3:25 pm

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That's probably the only time you ever hear a woman moan


Oh Slimz, welcome back toppy.

How would you know though?

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Re: Domestic Violence

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matr1x wrote:
That's probably the only time you ever hear a woman moan


Oh Slimz, welcome back toppy.

How would you know though?



One can assume.

Speaking of topic, max, you tell your venes to relax deyself? Them girls getting real cuttail

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby 88sins » January 15th, 2023, 1:53 am

Jared Mohammed wrote:
88sins wrote:See that term "gender based violence"? It's a very misleading term, that's been used to wrongfully and i dare say intentionally denote violence perpetrated on women by men, but not necessarily the other way around. But let's get something clear.

I'm yet to meet the man that beats his woman to a frazzle at the mere sight of her, simply and solely because she's in fact a woman.


Most victims of domestic violence are women, and most perpetrators are men. That doesn't mean women cannot be the perpetrators and men the victims. But that is the reason why there is a greater focus put on them but that doesn't mean the other is left out.

They do so because of the environment they were brought up on where rape culture was the norm and having being violence enforced and instills this patriarchal "quota" onto their spouses and, potentially, children.



Please tell me that you're joking.

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby matix » January 15th, 2023, 5:42 am

adnj wrote:
matr1x wrote:If you count nagging and verbal abuse, women beat men in domestic violence numbers.



Wait, verbal abuse is domestic abuse
Then by that metric, with all your bitcching and moaning, you're an abusive woman.



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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby Jared Mohammed » January 22nd, 2023, 3:40 pm

88sins wrote:
Jared Mohammed wrote:
88sins wrote:See that term "gender based violence"? It's a very misleading term, that's been used to wrongfully and i dare say intentionally denote violence perpetrated on women by men, but not necessarily the other way around. But let's get something clear.

I'm yet to meet the man that beats his woman to a frazzle at the mere sight of her, simply and solely because she's in fact a woman.


Most victims of domestic violence are women, and most perpetrators are men. That doesn't mean women cannot be the perpetrators and men the victims. But that is the reason why there is a greater focus put on them but that doesn't mean the other is left out.

They do so because of the environment they were brought up on where rape culture was the norm and having being violence enforced and instills this patriarchal "quota" onto their spouses and, potentially, children.



Please tell me that you're joking.

It is true. Sadly, enough. Men need to realize how much privilege they have and work on supporting those who do not. Look how often women are catcalled in public, as an example.

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby timelapse » January 22nd, 2023, 5:22 pm

Jared Mohammed wrote:
88sins wrote:
Jared Mohammed wrote:
88sins wrote:See that term "gender based violence"? It's a very misleading term, that's been used to wrongfully and i dare say intentionally denote violence perpetrated on women by men, but not necessarily the other way around. But let's get something clear.

I'm yet to meet the man that beats his woman to a frazzle at the mere sight of her, simply and solely because she's in fact a woman.


Most victims of domestic violence are women, and most perpetrators are men. That doesn't mean women cannot be the perpetrators and men the victims. But that is the reason why there is a greater focus put on them but that doesn't mean the other is left out.

They do so because of the environment they were brought up on where rape culture was the norm and having being violence enforced and instills this patriarchal "quota" onto their spouses and, potentially, children.



Please tell me that you're joking.

It is true. Sadly, enough. Men need to realize how much privilege they have and work on supporting those who do not. Look how often women are catcalled in public, as an example.
I get catcalled by women in public often.I agree,it is gross sometimes and uncalled for

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby matr1x » January 22nd, 2023, 8:16 pm

And studies have shown that when are stopped being catcalled, they start to feel undesirable. Explain that logic.


Many women feed on that attention, it gives them power

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby 88sins » January 22nd, 2023, 11:37 pm

Jared Mohammed wrote:
88sins wrote:
Jared Mohammed wrote:
88sins wrote:See that term "gender based violence"? It's a very misleading term, that's been used to wrongfully and i dare say intentionally denote violence perpetrated on women by men, but not necessarily the other way around. But let's get something clear.

I'm yet to meet the man that beats his woman to a frazzle at the mere sight of her, simply and solely because she's in fact a woman.


Most victims of domestic violence are women, and most perpetrators are men. That doesn't mean women cannot be the perpetrators and men the victims. But that is the reason why there is a greater focus put on them but that doesn't mean the other is left out.

They do so because of the environment they were brought up on where rape culture was the norm and having being violence enforced and instills this patriarchal "quota" onto their spouses and, potentially, children.



Please tell me that you're joking.

It is true. Sadly, enough. Men need to realize how much privilege they have and work on supporting those who do not. Look how often women are catcalled in public, as an example.


Why do you think so many women spend so much time and effort on their appearance, putting on makeup, high heels, push up bras, tight and revealing clothing, burn up their scalp at the hairdresser, etc? You feel they're all so very comfortable and happy and doing these things simply because they like it? And let's not forget, most of these things they wear were invented by men, not women.

Son, they do these things to themselves to attract the sexual attention of men. Their issue is that unfortunately for them, the things they do to attract the attention of the men that they find desirable also attracts the attention of men that they are not interested in. And don't get it twisted, she wants his attention and his compliments all the same, she just doesn't want him for anything else

A typical female will make endless rules for the man she doesn't want to keep him at a distance that she's comfortable with, but will without reservation break every rule for the man she does want to get him to come closer.

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Domestic Violence

Postby MaxPower » January 23rd, 2023, 3:06 am

88sins wrote:
Why do you think so many women spend so much time and effort on their appearance, putting on makeup, high heels, push up bras, tight and revealing clothing, burn up their scalp at the hairdresser, etc?


Why do you think men spend so much time and effort on their appearance, putting on bess clothes making sure it fitted, jordans, gold, taking a “fresh” every week at the barber, etc?

What about ricing out their cars and putting “panty dropper”?

Why do they do these things?

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby 88sins » January 23rd, 2023, 4:05 am

MaxPower wrote:
88sins wrote:
Why do you think so many women spend so much time and effort on their appearance, putting on makeup, high heels, push up bras, tight and revealing clothing, burn up their scalp at the hairdresser, etc?


Why do you think men spend so much time and effort on their appearance, putting on bess clothes making sure it fitted, jordans, gold, taking a “fresh” every week at the barber, etc?

What about ricing out their cars and putting “panty dropper”?

Why do they do these things?



Some men do some of the things you mentioned to attract the attention of women, but most men do these things for themselves because they enjoy these things. The difference that the tiny marble rolling around in that empty pan on top your neck can't seem to grasp is this.

Most females do a LOT of things that make them physically uncomfortable with the intention being he end result of attracting attention primarily from males. You feel they like plastering their face with makeup that can cause acne and skin irritation? That they enjoy the lower back and foot pain that comes with wearing high heels for long hours on a regular basis? You feel corsets, waist trainers, and thong underwear are worn for the wonderful feeling of comfort they provide? How many men you know that will wear something that is very physically uncomfortable for them, solely to get the attention of a female?

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby mero » January 23rd, 2023, 7:52 am

Duane, can you try to attract some feuners on the forum here to share their views and experiences from actually being women?

Then again, dey wouldn't last a day with the toxic masculine, Taters, wife beaters, know it all, wanna be alpha males, fat forks, neckbeards and incels that call themselves men in here.

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Domestic Violence

Postby MaxPower » January 23rd, 2023, 2:55 pm

88sins wrote:

Some men do some of the things you mentioned to attract the attention of women, but most men do these things for themselves because they enjoy these things. The difference that the tiny marble rolling around in that empty pan on top your neck can't seem to grasp is this.

Most females do a LOT of things that make them physically uncomfortable with the intention being he end result of attracting attention primarily from males. You feel they like plastering their face with makeup that can cause acne and skin irritation? That they enjoy the lower back and foot pain that comes with wearing high heels for long hours on a regular basis? You feel corsets, waist trainers, and thong underwear are worn for the wonderful feeling of comfort they provide? How many men you know that will wear something that is very physically uncomfortable for them, solely to get the attention of a female?



As fashion evolves, guys are wearing tight pants and pointy tip shoes. Guys are doing facials etc….guys going to the gym or exercising before dates to get some pump in their body. Taking all these harmful steroids and spending long painful hours at the gym. And you talking about women doing physically uncomfortable things to look attractive? So who the gym guy looking to attract? You?

Soldier both men and women equally do things to attract the gender of their choice. That is basic understanding of human interaction.

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby timelapse » January 24th, 2023, 7:34 am

MaxPower wrote:
88sins wrote:Some men do some of the things you mentioned to attract the attention of women, but most men do these things for themselves because they enjoy these things. The difference that the tiny marble rolling around in that empty pan on top your neck can't seem to grasp is this.

Most females do a LOT of things that make them physically uncomfortable with the intention being he end result of attracting attention primarily from males. You feel they like plastering their face with makeup that can cause acne and skin irritation? That they enjoy the lower back and foot pain that comes with wearing high heels for long hours on a regular basis? You feel corsets, waist trainers, and thong underwear are worn for the wonderful feeling of comfort they provide? How many men you know that will wear something that is very physically uncomfortable for them, solely to get the attention of a female?



As fashion evolves, guys are wearing tight pants and pointy tip shoes. Guys are doing facials etc….guys going to the gym or exercising before dates to get some pump in their body. Taking all these harmful steroids and spending long painful hours at the gym. And you talking about women doing physically uncomfortable things to look attractive? So who the gym guy looking to attract? You?

Soldier both men and women equally do things to attract the gender of their choice. That is basic understanding of human interaction.
There are plenty gym guys looking to attract men eh max.
The TTFB game is real

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby MaxPower » January 24th, 2023, 8:05 am

timelapse wrote:There are plenty gym guys looking to attract men eh max.
The TTFB game is real


Yeh man just as plenty looking to attract women…u into the D?

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Re: Domestic Violence

Postby timelapse » January 24th, 2023, 11:58 am

MaxPower wrote:
timelapse wrote:There are plenty gym guys looking to attract men eh max.
The TTFB game is real


Yeh man just as plenty looking to attract women…u into the D?
Me? Nah.I does only behave so

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