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Re: "Official" POLICE & Police Commisioner Related Matters thread ...

Postby 16 cycles » January 16th, 2022, 5:47 am

not a fan of Colm but not sure how he get rope in this 'restaurant' loophole...

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Postby pugboy » January 16th, 2022, 6:18 am

lolll
just like when they was going after ian alleyne/tv6


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hover11 wrote:COPS INTERVIEW COLM.

Police have interviewed Finance Minister Colm Imbert and obtained official correspondence from the permanent secretary in the Ministry of Health, as well as unfettered access to all electronic devices belonging to promoter Shadeed Abdullah as they probe businessman Adrian Scoon’s “Seaside brunch party”.

The Sunday Express understands that Abdullah, who is one of the directors of YUP Entertainment (Young Urban Professionals), the company behind the Boxing Day event on board the MV Ocean Pelican, has been “extremely co-operative during the investigation” and had no issue handing over his devices or providing the passwords.

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... c2bf7.html

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Postby zoom rader » January 16th, 2022, 7:21 am

pugboy wrote:lolll
just like when they was going after ian alleyne/tv6


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hover11 wrote:COPS INTERVIEW COLM.

Police have interviewed Finance Minister Colm Imbert and obtained official correspondence from the permanent secretary in the Ministry of Health, as well as unfettered access to all electronic devices belonging to promoter Shadeed Abdullah as they probe businessman Adrian Scoon’s “Seaside brunch party”.

The Sunday Express understands that Abdullah, who is one of the directors of YUP Entertainment (Young Urban Professionals), the company behind the Boxing Day event on board the MV Ocean Pelican, has been “extremely co-operative during the investigation” and had no issue handing over his devices or providing the passwords.

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... c2bf7.html

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Postby hover11 » January 18th, 2022, 12:19 pm

Civilian Gary looking for relevance
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Postby bluefete » January 18th, 2022, 12:21 pm

16 cycles wrote:not a fan of Colm but not sure how he get rope in this 'restaurant' loophole...


He gave approval for the restaurant or alcohol license or sum such.

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Postby pugboy » January 18th, 2022, 12:24 pm

tabanca not easy

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Postby hover11 » January 18th, 2022, 3:52 pm

IN 2020, TEAR GAS WAS USED TWICE IN ONE DAY AGAINST PROTESTERS -

First against Beetham and Sea Lots residents then on Nelson Street residents, who were also protesting in Port of Spain.

Police also pleaded with residents to go home as they were in breach of the regulations.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/trinidadex ... 3.amp.html

Who was the COP in 2020 again?

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Re: "Official" POLICE & Police Commisioner Related Matters thread ...

Postby pugboy » January 19th, 2022, 7:19 am

now see him on tv6 fazeer show
he still asking what the public wants him to do

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Postby Mmoney607 » January 19th, 2022, 2:55 pm

Where the galil?

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Postby MaxPower » January 19th, 2022, 3:09 pm

pugboy wrote:now see him on tv6 fazeer show
he still asking what the public wants him to do


Pathetic.

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Postby pugboy » January 19th, 2022, 3:31 pm

he wearing suits now to do these at home talks

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pugboy wrote:now see him on tv6 fazeer show
he still asking what the public wants him to do


Pathetic.

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Postby pugboy » January 23rd, 2022, 9:21 am

justice stanley john report in express article today not looking good on gg part

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Postby MaxPower » January 23rd, 2022, 9:50 am

pugboy wrote:justice stanley john report in express article today not looking good on gg part


GG looking bad long time bro.

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Postby pugboy » January 23rd, 2022, 9:53 am

he looking worser now as he always claimed he straighten out the ful dept and put systems in place

man had a tv show with robert dumas on cnc3 all about ful and ting with the great mystar and swanny

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pugboy wrote:justice stanley john report in express article today not looking good on gg part


GG looking bad long time bro.

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Postby hover11 » January 23rd, 2022, 10:00 am

A well-oiled criminal enterprise' :
Documents found at employee's home.
Another applicant received 20 firearms in one year-16 were issued during Griffith's term and four during the short period that (former) DCP (Irwin) Hackshaw acted as commissioner.
Via the Express Newspaper

'A THRIVING, well-oiled, white-collar criminal enterprise' in respect of the grant of firearm user's licences (FULs) and other restricted licences was being conducted 'under the nose' of then-commissioner of police Gary Griffith.

This is one of the conclusions of retired Appeal Court judge Stanley John, who was appointed by the former Bliss Seepersad-led Police Service Commission (PolSC) to enquire into allegations of corruption in the issuance of FULs.

The scathing report, which has been submitted to the PolSC and which the Sunday Express had sight of, details the goings-on within the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service (TTPS) under the leadership of Griffith.

John also recommended a police probe into several matters raised during his investigation, 'and the errant persons brought to justice and not be allowed to go free'.

John said, 'My investigation leaves me with the firm view of the existence within the TTPS of a highly dysfunctional system for processing applications for FULs and other related licences/permits. The system is replete with opportunities for illegal, irregular and other corrupt practices. Clearly, the advantage taken of these opportunities has been widespread.

'Indeed, the then-commissioner has mentioned that he was aware of the significance of this problem by way of several reports made to him. His efforts to address it have clearly been woefully unsuccessful. His own explanation of his involvement in the process, in my opinion... was in breach of the law as set out in Section 16 of the Firearms Act. This has been a masterclass in dysfunctionalisation.'

Under the Firearms Act, it is the Commissioner of Police who grants approvals for FULs.

(Questions about employee)
John pointed to a refusal by a senior TTPS manager during his probe to answer questions about a particular TTPS employee 'troubling'.
'Additionally, the refusal of (manager's name called) to address questions referred to him (by John) concerning (name called) involvement in the operations of the Firearms Permit Section continues to be very troubling and ought not to be swept under the carpet. It should be noted that (name called) was hired by him, worked closely with him, and evidently had a significant part of play in the process leading up to the grant of FULs. It is highly unlikely that (employee ) could have played such a pivotal role without the knowledge and/or approval of (manager's post stated),' John said.
John emphasised that a 'very disturbing feature of this investigation was the unexplained role of (name called of employee) in relation to activities in the Firearms Permit Section'.

He said both the employee and (manager's name called) have been unhelpful in explaining the employee's role, and have adamantly refused to proffer any explanation to him for the numerous documents relating to FULs found at the employee's residence, when a search warrant was executed last year. The documents included application forms for FULs in favour of several people, correspondence addressed to the commissioner from individuals and 19 applications in favour of several individuals.

The employee was on a two-year contract to the TTPS at a salary of $10,332 a month.
John said the employee declined to be interviewed and, as a result, he e-mailed the manager on October 18, 2021, seeking a response to the following questions:
• Was the contract of (name called) amended in any way?
• Did he (the manager) at any time assign the employee duties in the Firearms Section?
• Did he authorise the employee to remove documents relating to the issuance of FULs from the Police Administration Building and the Firearms Section?
• Can he advise the role to which (the employee) was assigned?
Serious flaws and corruption
In a withering conclusion, John said: 'The commissioner has not performed the functions entrusted to him by law in relation to the issuance of firearm licences. To use his own language, he depended on the 'integrity of the system', a system which he admitted had serious flaws and opened itself to corruption.

'It does not appear that the commissioner satisfied himself that all applicants for firearms import permits, firearms user's licences, firearm user's (employee's) certificates, and firearm dealer's licences had good reasons for importing, purchasing, acquiring or having in their possession a firearm or ammunition without danger to the public safety or to the peace, or that there was any reason to believe those applicants were fit to be entrusted with a firearm or ammunition, in contravention of Section 17 (4) of the Firearms Act.

Adherence to the provision of Section 17 (4) seemed to be the exception rather than the rule.
'I wish to state that notwithstanding commissioner Griffith's philosophy that by issuing firearms to citizens, he was thereby genuinely reducing the opportunity for corruption, this investigation has found the contrary.'

(Liberal policy)
John said it was his opinion that Griffith's liberal policy had the potential to militarise sections of the society. 'Such a policy as espoused by him (Griffith) has the potential, through inadvertence, to militarise sections of the society... There is no right to bear arms in our society. There is a right to apply for an FUL and if the applicant fulfils the legal requirements, then the commissioner, in the exercise of his discretion, may grant an FUL. The grant of a firearm is a privilege given to the citizen by the exercise of responsible discretion,' John said. He added, 'The law thus imposes a critical responsibility upon the CoP in the granting of licences to exercise a measured discretion of his judgment in assessing an application for an FUL and/or FDL.'

The report painted a worrying picture of the process used in granting FULs to members of the public, and noted that people who had pending matters for serious offences and convictions received FULs.
'On the basis of all the transcripts obtained, the interviews conducted, the documentary evidence made available to me and the unexplained role of (TTPS secretary's name called), I find that:
• Requests for varying sums of money have been made of applicants by police officers attached to the Firearms Permit Section and senior officers in some divisions to assist in the issuance of firearms user's licences.
• An absence of certificates of character and, in some instances, inaccurate information (was) recorded on such certificates.
• A failure in at least two cases to ensure that the applicants were at least 25 years of age-a requirement of Section 17 (2A) of the Firearms Act, which prescribes that 'No licence, certificate or permit shall be granted to a person under the age of 25 years'.
• Persons convicted of criminal charges, others with criminal charges pending, and even named persons involved in questionable activities have been issued provisional licences... An applicant with initials DD, who was charged for trafficking in a very significant quantity of cocaine, was issued a provisional permit.
• There exists a practice of certain firearms dealers having access to the non-public areas of the Firearms Permit Section, and a particular firearm dealer having access to the vault.'

(20 firearms in one year)
John's investigation also found that an applicant with the initials AN, who was extradited from Trinidad and Tobago to the United States for drug trafficking offences, applied for an FUL. 'The application was recommended notwithstanding the absence of a certificate of character. There was however a note on the file to the effect that the Criminal Records Office was closed at the material time. That in itself was no reason for making a favourable recommendation,' John concluded.

Another applicant received 20 firearms in one year-16 were issued during Griffith's term and four during the short period that (former) DCP (Irwin) Hackshaw acted as commissioner.
'In one case, a FUL was granted and in another, the provisions of the act were not complied with in relation to the grant of a dealership licence.
'Applications were being processed and approved in an inordinately short period of time, in comparison with earlier applications.

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Postby Chimera » January 23rd, 2022, 10:01 am

pugboy wrote:justice stanley john report in express article today not looking good on gg part
Could find that article online by chance? Can't remember the last time I buy a physical newspaper

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Postby Chimera » January 23rd, 2022, 10:05 am

Thanks hover. Would put a extra $5 in the hover lawyer fund for you

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Postby hover11 » January 23rd, 2022, 10:06 am

Who here remember the 29 year old held with a FUL with a cache of guns on the highway, when men with businesses still waiting for a call. This is corruption at it's best, waiting for Civilian Gary's response

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Postby hover11 » January 23rd, 2022, 10:08 am

Phone Surgeon wrote:Thanks hover. Would put a extra $5 in the hover lawyer fund for you
Is only woman like attention, baccanal and lackaray like you....real macomere man antics with you...I off you pretend I don't exist na. PLEASE AND THANKS

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Postby hover11 » January 23rd, 2022, 10:28 am

Waiting for Gary to say somebody lying
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Postby pugboy » January 23rd, 2022, 10:57 am

……….aaaaaa

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Postby Chimera » January 23rd, 2022, 11:14 am

The basic fact though is not a single legally issued firearm was used to commit a crime.

Many of them were used to stop crimes and send good boys to the great crime scene in the sky

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Postby Cantmis » January 23rd, 2022, 11:26 am

Which rifle not deadly ?

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Postby MaxPower » January 23rd, 2022, 11:34 am

hover11 wrote:Who here remember the 29 year old held with a FUL with a cache of guns on the highway, when men with businesses still waiting for a call. This is corruption at it's best, waiting for Civilian Gary's response


Jason,

Thank you for the article.

Civilian Gary probably thinking what to say to the public to persuade them as usual.

I hope he keeps his mouth shut though, he is highly irritating and its increasing every time he speaks.

He became COP, he had his shot and he failed.

Let’s move on.

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Postby Redman » January 23rd, 2022, 11:53 am

Phone Surgeon wrote:The basic fact though is not a single legally issued firearm was used to commit a crime.

Many of them were used to stop crimes and send good boys to the great crime scene in the sky


Agreed

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Postby pugboy » January 23rd, 2022, 12:00 pm

correct but that doesn’t justify a pure bobol dept taking millions in plain view

regardless of if you experienced grief in your life and had to decide to go that route

and well a legally obtained gun via a processing fee is a kinda oxymoron
although many would beg to differ

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Phone Surgeon wrote:The basic fact though is not a single legally issued firearm was used to commit a crime.

Many of them were used to stop crimes and send good boys to the great crime scene in the sky


Agreed

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Postby Mmoney607 » January 23rd, 2022, 12:02 pm

Regardless of what happened under gg, are we happy to love in a country where the pnm directorate could use their "independent" commissions to hire one of their former "independent" judges to do some report to allude to criminal activity? Is there anything that gg can be charged for here? Probably not. So this is the work of Rowley to tarnish gg name because he realized gg was more popular than him.

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Postby Mmoney607 » January 23rd, 2022, 12:04 pm

How such a report reach into the hands of the media??????? These tactics were the same ones used between 2010-2015. Remember how long now mark bassant saying the arrest of a former pp govt minister is imminent regarding embd contracts.

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Postby MaxPower » January 23rd, 2022, 12:10 pm

That report alone could tell us that not 1F will come out of this.

All this time and that is what they reported?

Damn pathetic yes.

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Postby Mmoney607 » January 23rd, 2022, 12:10 pm

Email gate was the same thing. A man concoct something out of nowhere and media just push it without asking questions

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