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pugboy wrote:what sandra had to say about it yesterday?
timelapse wrote:https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=5672498572777477&id=100000521710168
Finally people are standing up to these tyrants for their rights.Dashcams or other recording devices are a necessity when dealing with TTPS.Just make sure you are abiding by the laws when standing up for your rights.
Notice that no arrest was made for not showing identification to the officer.Reason for that was explained.No probable cause or no police roadblock.TTPS cannot request your information on a whim, as well as that questionnaire that they were demanding that motorists fill out.Fassness is not probable cause.Awaits badjohnish rebuttal by Rollingstock....
eliteauto wrote:Lol @ standing up, when you're unfamiliar with the MV&RT Act and bumping your gum for social media cool points. Driver will get a visit and an appearance in court because of his stupidity
What is the law wrt the powers of an officer stopping someone without probable cause or roadblocks? Can an officer just catch a vaps and demand identification jusso?rollingstock wrote:timelapse wrote:https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=5672498572777477&id=100000521710168
Finally people are standing up to these tyrants for their rights.Dashcams or other recording devices are a necessity when dealing with TTPS.Just make sure you are abiding by the laws when standing up for your rights.
Notice that no arrest was made for not showing identification to the officer.Reason for that was explained.No probable cause or no police roadblock.TTPS cannot request your information on a whim, as well as that questionnaire that they were demanding that motorists fill out.Fassness is not probable cause.Awaits badjohnish rebuttal by Rollingstock....
Badjohnish? Me? No bro I call a spade a spade. And if you a lil pu-c that can't take talk hide in a cave. I came up hard and will be leaving hard.
As respect to this sorry escapade, that snr officer is a lil cyat, as with most of them, unaware of their powers as a police and blasted cowards. You want to film me as a police in uniform and my reaction is to take out my phone to film too? What kinda pantyman thing is that. But they put themselves in that position. Being a police officer gives you no special privileges, they hadda learn that.
rollingstock wrote:Nah bro the aim is to stay hard
And under the MV &RT act a police officer in uniform does not need probable cause.
Too much YouTube and foreign bids.
rollingstock wrote:
And under the MV &RT act a police officer in uniform does not need probable cause.
What reason does a police officer have to believe that your documents are incorrect.If you have not committed a crime or in the process of commiting a crime, the police have no reason to ask you anything unless there is a roadblock.In civilized countries at least.pugboy wrote:What is wrong with checking if driver has correct docs?
Driving is not a right, and with all them bandits using stolen cars to commit serious cars how else to make a dent?
When yuh say civilized country.....what country yuh referring too here? Like usa?timelapse wrote:What reason does a police officer have to believe that your documents are incorrect.If you have not committed a crime or in the process of commiting a crime, the police have no reason to ask you anything unless there is a roadblock.In civilized countries at least.pugboy wrote:What is wrong with checking if driver has correct docs?
Driving is not a right, and with all them bandits using stolen cars to commit serious cars how else to make a dent?
timelapse wrote:Oh wait now
Trinidad and Tobago Constitution Section 4:
5. (1) Except as is otherwise expressly provided in this
Chapter and in section 54, no law may abrogate, abridge or infringe
or authorise the abrogation, abridgment or infringement of any of
the rights and freedoms hereinbefore recognised and declared.
(2) Without prejudice to subsection (1), but subject to
this Chapter and to section 54, Parliament may not—
(a) authorise or effect the arbitrary detention,
imprisonment or exile of any person;
(b) impose or authorise the imposition of cruel and
unusual treatment or punishment;
(c) deprive a person who has been arrested
or detained—
(i) of the right to be informed promptly and
with sufficient particularity of the reason
for his arrest or detention;
(ii) of the right to retain and instruct without
delay a legal adviser of his own choice
and to hold communication with him;
If you can't tell me what I am being detained for, you ain't detaining me fullstop.
Tell me where it says in the law that it is an offense to not identify yourself to the police if you are not being suspected of doing a named crime or in a roadblock,as a motorist in your private vehicle.Once I know that for certain, I will abide by it.assassin wrote:Except that you are not detained as yet. A uniformed or duly identified police officer has asked you to produce your DP while you are in operation of a motor vehicle. It is an offence not to do so
After he runs your documents then you would be advised if you can go or if you are being detained
It is the law, whether or not the police officer was just being vindictive. He doesn't have to explain anything to you.timelapse wrote:Oh wait now
Trinidad and Tobago Constitution Section 4:
5. (1) Except as is otherwise expressly provided in this
Chapter and in section 54, no law may abrogate, abridge or infringe
or authorise the abrogation, abridgment or infringement of any of
the rights and freedoms hereinbefore recognised and declared.
(2) Without prejudice to subsection (1), but subject to
this Chapter and to section 54, Parliament may not—
(a) authorise or effect the arbitrary detention,
imprisonment or exile of any person;
(b) impose or authorise the imposition of cruel and
unusual treatment or punishment;
(c) deprive a person who has been arrested
or detained—
(i) of the right to be informed promptly and
with sufficient particularity of the reason
for his arrest or detention;
(ii) of the right to retain and instruct without
delay a legal adviser of his own choice
and to hold communication with him;
If you can't tell me what I am being detained for, you ain't detaining me fullstop.
Those are our laws broski.I quoting our constitution and some precedent that has already been used here in our courts successfully.Phone Surgeon wrote:Yuh watching too much TV in 'murica timelapse.
Phone Surgeon wrote:Yuh watching too much TV in 'murica timelapse.
I read that entire section.Tell me where it says the police can demand your papers without you committing one of the offenses listed there.assassin wrote:Waaaaay too much TV
This is not America. You have no rights
The man reach all up in the constitution with a legal opinion
RS done refer you long time to the MVRTA
Read Section 56Phone Surgeon wrote:Yuh watching too much TV in 'murica timelapse.
timelapse wrote:I read that entire section.Tell me where it says the police can demand your papers without you committing one of the offenses listed there.assassin wrote:Waaaaay too much TV
This is not America. You have no rights
The man reach all up in the constitution with a legal opinion
RS done refer you long time to the MVRTA
Read Section 56Phone Surgeon wrote:Yuh watching too much TV in 'murica timelapse.
17. Failing to comply with directive of a
police constable
Motor Vehicles and Road Traffic
Act, Chap. 48:50, section 66(a)
If you deliberately failed to comply with the directive of a police constable then they can pull you over and ask for your stuff.If you did nothing wrong, they can't pull you over.This is the same as 'resisting arrest' when you weren't even being arrested to begin with.
Is time we have a law where an average citizen can citizen arrest a police officer when they abusing their authority.
Tell me why that man in the video didn't get arrested and the vehicle impounded if he was in the wrong.Is either he was right or the officer was negligent in his duties while a crime was being committed.
If you did nothing wrong,.
timelapse wrote:I leaving this here for now.I waiting to see what comes out of that incident in the video
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