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Postby pugboy » October 25th, 2021, 6:33 pm

i wanna know how a toy store could do change mgmt into a gun dealer

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Postby sam1978 » October 25th, 2021, 6:40 pm

Ent the toy store is a helicopter dealer too? THAT is change management!

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Postby Mmoney607 » October 25th, 2021, 6:47 pm

Gary, I know you reading, come back home to unc. Come back into kamla's loving embrace.

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Postby pugboy » October 25th, 2021, 7:04 pm

boy it sad for a man to see everything unraveling in public even though all these things were above board as banzai said

and being relegated to throwing out social media retorts

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Postby j.o.e » October 25th, 2021, 7:05 pm

Phone Surgeon wrote:Gary is the kinda man that if he find Rowley or any high level political person in racket, in power or not,

he would just roll up with his squad and lock up dey mc

cant afford to have someone like that

how allyuh really feel the scene wudda play out with stuart step daughter if it was anyone else besides GG


When has this happened ? Or is it that you believe the fairy tale GG sold you ?

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Postby sam1978 » October 25th, 2021, 7:07 pm

pugboy wrote:boy it sad for a man to see everything unraveling in public even though all these things were above board as banzai said

and being relegated to throwing out social media retorts


He not helping his cause with those ( womanly) retorts he’s making.

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Postby hover11 » October 25th, 2021, 7:10 pm

Phone Surgeon wrote:Gary is the kinda man that if he find Rowley or any high level political person in racket, in power or not,

he would just roll up with his squad and lock up dey mc

cant afford to have someone like that

how allyuh really feel the scene wudda play out with stuart step daughter if it was anyone else besides GG
Question where is Stuart Young step daughter this very moment...allya does get wax rel easy by theatrics yes

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Postby zoom rader » October 25th, 2021, 7:13 pm

sam1978 wrote:
rollingstock wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:Gary is the kinda man that if he find Rowley or any high level political person in racket, in power or not,

he would just roll up with his squad and lock up dey mc

cant afford to have someone like that

how allyuh really feel the scene wudda play out with stuart step daughter if it was anyone else besides GG


I could only guffaw at this.
A strong pr team can really skewer public perception.


Who Gory really ever lock up?
Trini Afros was locked up while Arabs was free to do as their tribe pleases.

We live in a rotten society at the top

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Postby alfa » October 25th, 2021, 7:13 pm

Phone Surgeon wrote:
rollingstock wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:Gary is the kinda man that if he find Rowley or any high level political person in racket, in power or not,

he would just roll up with his squad and lock up dey mc

cant afford to have someone like that

how allyuh really feel the scene wudda play out with stuart step daughter if it was anyone else besides GG


I could only guffaw at this.
A strong pr team can really skewer public perception.
Who's the best option for COP???

Anyone who belongs to a particular organization will always be biased towards same.I have never heard Gary, Williams, Sandra or even Joanne Archie speak anything concerning the numerous shortcomings of the service and it's officers. I wouldn't choose anyone from any service as a cop. I also would avoid anyone from the public service as there is a culture in there that isn't conducive to productivity. I would choose one of the independent criminologists who did actual research and studies into the police service and it's shortcomings. The cop is an administrator first and foremost so a 'gun man' or ' bad man' isn't necessary

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Postby hover11 » October 25th, 2021, 7:15 pm

alfa wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:
rollingstock wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:Gary is the kinda man that if he find Rowley or any high level political person in racket, in power or not,

he would just roll up with his squad and lock up dey mc

cant afford to have someone like that

how allyuh really feel the scene wudda play out with stuart step daughter if it was anyone else besides GG


I could only guffaw at this.
A strong pr team can really skewer public perception.
Who's the best option for COP???

Anyone who belongs to a particular organization will always be biased towards same.I have never heard Gary, Williams, Sandra or even Joanne Archie speak anything concerning the numerous shortcomings of the service and it's officers. I wouldn't choose anyone from any service as a cop. I also would avoid anyone from the public service as there is a culture in there that isn't conducive to productivity. I would choose one of the independent criminologists who did actual research and studies into the police service and it's shortcomings. The cop is an administrator first and foremost so a 'gun man' or ' bad man' isn't necessary
In before men mention Gibbs and ewatski who were foreigners and had nothing to do with the service culture
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Postby zoom rader » October 25th, 2021, 7:16 pm

Monk BANzai wrote:
hover11 wrote:Waiting for civilian GG responseFB_IMG_1635186487665.jpg


I think as a country and society we are just unaccustomed to "Change Management Strategy" brought in to bear/execute a particular agenda because of a degree of trust and momentum and familiarity of expectations.

To me GG's "hires" were standard. That it's/was being kept under the radar for so long does not make it wrong. Ultimately these contracts were just that.... contract which means it was short-term.

It's 101 Strategy at work.. You cant work within the bureaucratic (sp) system you've inherited. If you're looking for rapid change and you have the authority to bring in a Change Management Team, do so. This has nothing to do with the existing "chain of command within a clearly tinged system. If there is a framework for a change agenda is precisely why persons from outside would and should be brought into the system to affect the types of outcomes you looking for.

Of course, there are those who are in the TTPS who would see it differently and say that with these positions being freed up it makes for promotion within the service. But if there are questionable elements within the service, how would putting already tarnished persons in those positions contribute to assist with proper un-biased Change Management?

These are not padded roles...If anything some positions I've seen are substantially underpaid for the roles. Y'all are trying to liken it to some corrupt practice but at the end of the day, all of the examples given are demonstrated by roles that require some specific outcomes. There is a difference in the complexion of the service (good or bad depending on who you ask) and for the last 3 years, you can't deny that there has been a change. This can only happen from persons not fettered within the existing structure..... those brought in were not core TTPS persons.

Nothing out of the ordinary to me. But meem knows nothing of the TTPS inner workings (something which we're not giving enough credence to: the public's lack of information on the subject in it's entirety) ...I've worked with GG and S. Edgehill within the Energy Space before they transitioned to Gov't but that's like saying you're basing the entire Star Wars series on one installment....foolish...Those in the know or have access to more information or a position of knowledge you are free to disagree....And I only commenting from a position of Change Management.

So ease up on the keyboard grenades y'all want to pelt at this contribution. Those who know me know I don't debate.
Few people understand Change Management and its hard to induce in this primitive backward and bankrupt society

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Postby widdyphuck » October 25th, 2021, 7:17 pm

Gary got his once in a lifetime chance to arrest the email gate creator but he blew it.
He want a second chance to do what again?

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Postby sam1978 » October 25th, 2021, 7:18 pm

Tyson or Sunday might be good choices for COP, plus they would get along with the Minister of Nat Sec. and the PM.

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Postby hover11 » October 25th, 2021, 7:23 pm

wtf wrote:Gary got his once in a lifetime chance to arrest the email gate creator but he blew it.
He want a second chance to do what again?
To bump he gum and collect FUL payments

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Postby alfa » October 25th, 2021, 7:26 pm

hover11 wrote:
alfa wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:
rollingstock wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:Gary is the kinda man that if he find Rowley or any high level political person in racket, in power or not,

he would just roll up with his squad and lock up dey mc

cant afford to have someone like that

how allyuh really feel the scene wudda play out with stuart step daughter if it was anyone else besides GG


I could only guffaw at this.
A strong pr team can really skewer public perception.
Who's the best option for COP???

Anyone who belongs to a particular organization will always be biased towards same.I have never heard Gary, Williams, Sandra or even Joanne Archie speak anything concerning the numerous shortcomings of the service and it's officers. I wouldn't choose anyone from any service as a cop. I also would avoid anyone from the public service as there is a culture in there that isn't conducive to productivity. I would choose one of the independent criminologists who did actual research and studies into the police service and it's shortcomings. The cop is an administrator first and foremost so a 'gun man' or ' bad man' isn't necessary
In before men mention Gibbs and ewatski who were foreigners and had nothing to do with the service culture

Those were the guys who tried to change the culture but couldn't handle the backlash. They claimed Trinidad policing at the time was similar to Canada in the 60s. I think we're still in the 60s

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Postby Phone Surgeon » October 25th, 2021, 7:29 pm

Trinidad will get what they deserve. Be safe for Christmas everyone. Lock up tight.

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Postby hover11 » October 25th, 2021, 7:30 pm

alfa wrote:
hover11 wrote:
alfa wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:
rollingstock wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:Gary is the kinda man that if he find Rowley or any high level political person in racket, in power or not,

he would just roll up with his squad and lock up dey mc

cant afford to have someone like that

how allyuh really feel the scene wudda play out with stuart step daughter if it was anyone else besides GG


I could only guffaw at this.
A strong pr team can really skewer public perception.
Who's the best option for COP???

Anyone who belongs to a particular organization will always be biased towards same.I have never heard Gary, Williams, Sandra or even Joanne Archie speak anything concerning the numerous shortcomings of the service and it's officers. I wouldn't choose anyone from any service as a cop. I also would avoid anyone from the public service as there is a culture in there that isn't conducive to productivity. I would choose one of the independent criminologists who did actual research and studies into the police service and it's shortcomings. The cop is an administrator first and foremost so a 'gun man' or ' bad man' isn't necessary
In before men mention Gibbs and ewatski who were foreigners and had nothing to do with the service culture

Those were the guys who tried to change the culture but couldn't handle the backlash. They claimed Trinidad policing at the time was similar to Canada in the 60s. I think we're still in the 60s
We had foreigners and we had locals , failure on both ends ...how do we move forward ?

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Postby zoom rader » October 25th, 2021, 7:31 pm

alfa wrote:
hover11 wrote:
alfa wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:
rollingstock wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:Gary is the kinda man that if he find Rowley or any high level political person in racket, in power or not,

he would just roll up with his squad and lock up dey mc

cant afford to have someone like that

how allyuh really feel the scene wudda play out with stuart step daughter if it was anyone else besides GG


I could only guffaw at this.
A strong pr team can really skewer public perception.
Who's the best option for COP???

Anyone who belongs to a particular organization will always be biased towards same.I have never heard Gary, Williams, Sandra or even Joanne Archie speak anything concerning the numerous shortcomings of the service and it's officers. I wouldn't choose anyone from any service as a cop. I also would avoid anyone from the public service as there is a culture in there that isn't conducive to productivity. I would choose one of the independent criminologists who did actual research and studies into the police service and it's shortcomings. The cop is an administrator first and foremost so a 'gun man' or ' bad man' isn't necessary
In before men mention Gibbs and ewatski who were foreigners and had nothing to do with the service culture

Those were the guys who tried to change the culture but couldn't handle the backlash. They claimed Trinidad policing at the time was similar to Canada in the 60s. I think we're still in the 60s
Yup I tell folks one step forward and two steps backwards

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Postby hover11 » October 25th, 2021, 7:52 pm

Trim the fat

It has been confirmed that 19 civilian contract workers with the police service (TTPS) have had their contracts terminated. The workers were hired by former police commissioner Gary Griffith, who is describing the move as blatant political interference in the service.

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/10/25/police ... -griffith/

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Postby zoom rader » October 25th, 2021, 9:09 pm

hover11 wrote:Trim the fat

It has been confirmed that 19 civilian contract workers with the police service (TTPS) have had their contracts terminated. The workers were hired by former police commissioner Gary Griffith, who is describing the move as blatant political interference in the service.

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/10/25/police ... -griffith/
Full red government police force we come back in to play.

Then they will start back harassing the opposition just like they did when they raided and man handled Panday on fictitious charges and attests at his home.

Very dark times ahead , opposition phones and emails will be bugged.

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Postby sam1978 » October 25th, 2021, 9:48 pm

Ton Ton Macoute.

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Postby daring dragoon » October 26th, 2021, 2:26 am

anyone heard a talk about a tv super intendant will soon be acting in a high position with babylon?

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Postby hover11 » October 26th, 2021, 2:38 am

daring dragoon wrote:anyone heard a talk about a tv super intendant will soon be acting in a high position with babylon?
Wouldn't doubt it he moving up fast in ranks in ttps after that suspension.....pays to be a freemason yes

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Postby hover11 » October 26th, 2021, 3:28 am

40 PEOPLE HIRED BY GRIFFITH 'FIRED ON THE SPOT' FROM TTPS

https://www.cnc3.co.tt/40-people-hired- ... from-ttps/

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Postby daring dragoon » October 26th, 2021, 4:27 am

biggest private security company in macoya area taking over babylon soon? bigfoot and goliath will have escort soon?

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Postby antlind » October 26th, 2021, 6:14 am

hover11 wrote:40 PEOPLE HIRED BY GRIFFITH 'FIRED ON THE SPOT' FROM TTPS

https://www.cnc3.co.tt/40-people-hired- ... from-ttps/


Like a true banana republic ruled by a dictator. Oh Trinidad, what is happening to us?

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Postby hover11 » October 26th, 2021, 6:20 am

Seems like everyone getting fired, except those 41 in Parliament

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Postby pugboy » October 26th, 2021, 6:28 am

moral of story is doh ever publicly piss off your boss
oh try and enforce the laws for all
ie sea lots, bayside all the same

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Postby 88sins » October 26th, 2021, 6:36 am

Read the following, and then answer the question.

A man applied for an FUL 3 years ago, went through the process, and provided all that was required. To date, no FUL, and no mention or response about it after hr made multiple queries on it's status.
Same man applied for a dealers license 6 months ago. He again provided all the requested information. He got a call, and after being visited by and speaking with an officer he was told that he could get his dealers license and import license in less than a month.


Question
Why do you think that there was such a significant difference in response time for one (that should be more tightly controlled), and not the other?

It have an answer, and I know some of you know what it is.
Whoever gets the answer right wins a prize.

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Postby alfa » October 26th, 2021, 7:03 am

88sins wrote:Read the following, and then answer the question.

A man applied for an FUL 3 years ago, went through the process, and provided all that was required. To date, no FUL, and no mention or response about it after hr made multiple queries on it's status.
Same man applied for a dealers license 6 months ago. He again provided all the requested information. He got a call, and after being visited by and speaking with an officer he was told that he could get his dealers license and import license in less than a month.


Question
Why do you think that there was such a significant difference in response time for one (that should be more tightly controlled), and not the other?

It have an answer, and I know some of you know what it is.
Whoever gets the answer right wins a prize.

I'll take corrupt practices for 500 Alex. Is it because dealers help contribute to the firearms section Christmas fund via consultation/facilitation fees where everyone can eat a food?

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