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the new 'Pro Choice' supports abortion up to and even AFTER birth?

Postby redmanjp » February 2nd, 2019, 4:32 am

Just the other day killing a baby during or after it was born was murder- I guess we have progressed.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/virginia-gov.-supports-infanticide-of-babies-born-alive-after-failed-aborti

Virginia Gov. supports infanticide of babies born alive after failed abortions


VIRGINIA, January 30, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – Virginia’s Governor Ralph Northam suggested in comments this morning that a proposed bill allowing abortion up until the moment of birth would also allow doctors to refuse to resuscitate an infant born alive after a failed abortion "if that’s what the mother and the family desire."

"This is pure infanticide," wrote Ben Shapiro in Daily Wire about Northam's comments.

Northam, a former pediatric neurologist, was responding to a question on WTOP’s Ask The Governor about the controversy sparked yesterday during a statehouse hearing about the proposed bill. Del. Kathy Tran had defended the bill as allowing abortion for a woman who was already in the process of giving birth.

Northam called the controversy “overblown.”

He went on to explain what would happen in a situation of a woman wanting an abortion who was already in labor.

"So in this particular example, if the mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen: The infant would be delivered; the infant would be kept comfortable; the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desire, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother,” he said.

a discussion about what exactly? the baby is already born!

https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1090657473218920448


Shapiro called Northam's proposal "pure evil."

"Northam is specifically talking about delivering an infant alive and then asking the mother whether the infant should live or not. This is not an argument about the morning-after pill. It’s not an argument over whether a fetus feels pain. This is a statement that a fully-formed infant, born alive, ought to be murdered if the mother says the infant ought to be murdered," he wrote.

In an exchange yesterday during a subcommittee hearing about the bill, the bill’s chief proponent admitted that the measure would permit aborting babies even as a mother had begun dilating.

When asked, “How late in the third trimester could a physician perform an abortion?” delegate Kathy Tran, a Democrat from Northern Virginia replied, “through the third trimester," adding: " The third trimester goes all the way up to forty weeks.”

“Where it’s obvious a woman is about to give birth?” asked the chairman of the subcommittee, Delegate Todd Gilbert. Even when “she has physical signs that she is about to give birth?” added Gilbert. “She’s dilating?”

“My bill would allow that, yes,” responded Tran.

Known as the Repeal Act, Virginia House Bill 2491 would eliminate current restrictions on late term abortions.

“Following on the heels of New York’s radical expansion of abortion on demand, Delegate Tran’s bill reveals with alarming clarity what the modern Democratic Party stands for and their agenda for our nation – abortion on demand, up until the moment of delivery and even beyond,” said Susan B. Anthony List President Marjorie Dannenfelser in a statement issued this morning.

“This position is irreconcilable with the beliefs, values, and desires of the overwhelming majority of Americans,” she added.

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Re: the new 'Pro Choice' supports abortion up to and even AFTER birth?

Postby K74T » February 2nd, 2019, 7:41 am

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Postby boxy » February 2nd, 2019, 10:47 am

Allyuh men need to realize that there are random people who run websites and purport it as news please get your source from actual journalists and or just read the actual law information is easily accessible.
Rebublicans and prolifers only provide convenient half truths the New York law and the one the op posted is heavily fortified in that the woman's physician and seconded by two others have to all agree that the woman's life in danger while giving birth before they decide to abort.
Be that as it may I am not an advocate for abortion but if your wife of 10years has a high chance. Of. Dieing during childbirth what would be your decision?
Thats the law that people calling infanticide. Really?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... virginia-k


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the new 'Pro Choice' supports abortion up to and even AFTER birth?

Postby K74T » February 2nd, 2019, 12:44 pm

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Re: the new 'Pro Choice' supports abortion up to and even AFTER birth?

Postby The_Honourable » February 2nd, 2019, 2:00 pm

This is the back story...

Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam on Thursday responded to critics, after a move by Democrats to ease restrictions on late-term abortions ignited an intense debate. The bill failed in the state legislature.



Then not long after...


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Re: the new 'Pro Choice' supports abortion up to and even AFTER birth?

Postby Slartibartfast » February 4th, 2019, 9:31 am

boxy wrote:Allyuh men need to realize that there are random people who run websites and purport it as news please get your source from actual journalists and or just read the actual law information is easily accessible.
Rebublicans and prolifers only provide convenient half truths the New York law and the one the op posted is heavily fortified in that the woman's physician and seconded by two others have to all agree that the woman's life in danger while giving birth before they decide to abort.
Be that as it may I am not an advocate for abortion but if your wife of 10years has a high chance. Of. Dieing during childbirth what would be your decision?
Thats the law that people calling infanticide. Really?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... virginia-k

Wait.... you don't get your news from lifesitenews.com and twitter?!

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Re: the new 'Pro Choice' supports abortion up to and even AFTER birth?

Postby boxy » February 5th, 2019, 7:28 am

Slartibartfast wrote:
boxy wrote:Allyuh men need to realize that there are random people who run websites and purport it as news please get your source from actual journalists and or just read the actual law information is easily accessible.
Rebublicans and prolifers only provide convenient half truths the New York law and the one the op posted is heavily fortified in that the woman's physician and seconded by two others have to all agree that the woman's life in danger while giving birth before they decide to abort.
Be that as it may I am not an advocate for abortion but if your wife of 10years has a high chance. Of. Dieing during childbirth what would be your decision?
Thats the law that people calling infanticide. Really?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... virginia-k

Wait.... you don't get your news from lifesitenews.com and twitter?!

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Re: the new 'Pro Choice' supports abortion up to and even AFTER birth?

Postby shogun » February 5th, 2019, 11:31 pm

The reactionary right and their social media minions were only too happy to jump on this narrative like it was gospel. And the gullible ate it up.

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Re: the new 'Pro Choice' supports abortion up to and even AFTER birth?

Postby jahs0ldi3r » February 5th, 2019, 11:44 pm

All this is just about these devil worshippers getting babies to sacrifice and organs to sell. Nothing more!

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the new 'Pro Choice' supports abortion up to and even AFTER birth?

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