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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby pugboy » July 21st, 2022, 6:52 pm

why allyuh trying to stop contractor #72 gravy so ?
it is important ppl know they place

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby Kickstart » July 21st, 2022, 8:13 pm

pugboy wrote:why allyuh trying to stop contractor #72 gravy so ?
it is important ppl know they place
Same as lawyers gravy train on forgetful Jones

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby Rovin » July 25th, 2022, 2:44 pm

well since it happens in merica too & we like to follow merica maybe d govt hoping we here do it too so it will have more $$$ in d treasury for dem to teef ...

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby aaron17 » July 26th, 2022, 12:33 pm

i know it have defensive driving courses..but does it have defensive pothole driving ?

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby Numb3r4 » July 26th, 2022, 6:56 pm

^^^ Wait are the potholes driving defensively now???

Where are these potholes??
They seem like very dangerous potholes.

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby hover11 » July 27th, 2022, 6:09 am

MONEY IS A PROBLEM
Slew of protests over bad roads...


Yesterday Sinanan said he understood the reason people are protesting. “Some of our roads are really not in the condition that we would like to see it,”


https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... ium=social

Waitttttt I thought Rohan said over 70 percent of the roads in this country was deemed good.

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby aaron17 » July 27th, 2022, 6:29 am

I wonder how they get that breakdown..

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby pugboy » July 27th, 2022, 6:35 am

why they dont stop renting empty buildings from ferris and use the money instead

i see #72 setting up to fix a piece of wrightson road last night

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby hover11 » July 27th, 2022, 7:14 am

It funny how they could find money for everything else, anyway Rohan is just another waste of time minister, say what you want but when Jack was minister of works things were happening. Jack took one dollar every month to do his wuk, these now come millionaires cant assist ppl by paving ONE road with their money to help their own ppl.Yet, this is what we accept nothing but empty promises and excuses, take it or fix your own roads.

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby death365 » July 27th, 2022, 7:40 am

Aranguez main road is almost unpassable now - the left hand side if u coming from the highway particularly bad so muc u have to either drive on d pavement or cut into the on coming traffic side.


but yuh kno tha aranguez and the san jua business association is not known as supporting the PNM, so ... crapaud smoke we pipe
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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby hover11 » July 27th, 2022, 7:42 am

death365 wrote:Aranguez main road is almost unpassable now - the left hand side if u coming from the highway particularly bad so muc u have to either drive on d pavement or cut into the on coming traffic side.
What is the MP doing about it why he not talking about it and meeting with the constituents about such. Politicians sitting down and collecting pay for doing nothing and ppl like it so.
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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby pugboy » July 27th, 2022, 7:43 am

it is getting ridiculous now, WASA water pressure is totally unregulated, often it is very high and causing leaks all over the country

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby death365 » July 27th, 2022, 7:46 am

thats we "goodly" minister of health he too busy solving (for X) the Covid-19 situation

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death365 wrote:Aranguez main road is almost unpassable now - the left hand side if u coming from the highway particularly bad so muc u have to either drive on d pavement or cut into the on coming traffic side.
What is the MP doing about he not driving in the area or he probably doesn't live there like some and unbothered

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby hover11 » July 27th, 2022, 7:49 am

They doing nothing now but come 2025 they rushing to pave road like they going mad to show their achievements and we fall for it everytime.

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby aaron17 » July 27th, 2022, 8:14 am

lives over livelihood

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby matix » July 27th, 2022, 8:21 am

pugboy wrote:it is getting ridiculous now, WASA water pressure is totally unregulated, often it is very high and causing leaks all over the country


Only some areas getting that high water pressure, most have none at all. Water trucks, both privately and wasa making a killing atm.

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby aaron17 » July 27th, 2022, 8:25 am

If they eh have no money......and they don't want we to protest...
They want us to drive and say nothing until they 'fix' the road..while paying out of our pockets for fixing car suspension etc ?

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby Ben_spanna » July 27th, 2022, 8:42 am

We aint got no money to fix roads, but how come no one is asking how much was paid for the PMS last trip? his medical attention bills, his hotel bills, his trip allowances? we have money for those things, we have money to continue to give ministers their perks, their travel allowances, their housing allowances, but fork we people when to :roll: comes to having money to do their responsibility like repairing our roadways..

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby hover11 » July 27th, 2022, 8:49 am

matix wrote:
pugboy wrote:it is getting ridiculous now, WASA water pressure is totally unregulated, often it is very high and causing leaks all over the country


Only some areas getting that high water pressure, most have none at all. Water trucks, both privately and wasa making a killing atm.
What citizens allow is what will continue

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby sMASH » July 27th, 2022, 8:57 am

So many potholes and the pitch lake not making money?
Sum ting Wong

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby hover11 » July 27th, 2022, 9:01 am

sMASH wrote:So many potholes and the pitch lake not making money?
Sum ting Wong
Chinese too busy making their profits from the pitch lake on Alibaba

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby fokhan_96 » July 27th, 2022, 9:05 am

Be patient. 1 month before general elections money will be found to fix all roads. Just try to avoid the potholes for another 3 years.

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby aaron17 » July 27th, 2022, 9:08 am

To to avoid trinidad
Trinidad = pothole

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby Kickstart » July 27th, 2022, 9:23 am

fokhan_96 wrote:Be patient. 1 month before general elections money will be found to fix all roads. Just try to avoid the potholes for another 3 years.
Yes and then return to vote PNM

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby wing » July 27th, 2022, 10:21 am

Idea: What if we allow CEPEP to maintain secondary roads instead of just weed whacking. Because it's small sections of roadway, the corruption can possibly be minimised......then again it's probably wishful thinking.

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby hover11 » July 27th, 2022, 10:29 am

wing wrote:Idea: What if we allow CEPEP to maintain secondary roads instead of just weed whacking. Because it's small sections of roadway, the corruption can possibly be minimised......then again it's probably wishful thinking.
Forget CEPEP why not give those prisoners who serving hard labour that job, that way we don't have to pay anyone, the prisoners work for their food ....win-win

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby maj. tom » July 27th, 2022, 10:38 am

Because to fix a road properly needs an civil engineer. CEPEP is.... lacking in many aspects. What causes potholes to form is heavy vehicles especially at wheel turning points and then the hole gets larger and collapses over time as water fills them and more heavy vehicles crush them deeper and larger. Other times it's bad drainage causing mini-sinkholes and slipping land.

To engineer a road for this it really needs a concrete apron with the engineering knowledge of a civil engineer in the subject. The entire road does not need to be paving concrete, just the most common turning points. The rest of the road can be patches the usual way by cutting out the damaged section and machine compacting with aggregate asphalt. Which they also don't do.

No the solution is that these large construction companies with their 20 to 30 metric tons loaded trucks should be charged and tasked with fixing the roads that they damaged. Which will not happen.

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby wing » July 27th, 2022, 10:43 am

maj. tom wrote:Because to fix a road properly needs an civil engineer. CEPEP is.... lacking in many aspects. What causes potholes to form is heavy vehicles especially at wheel turning points and then the hole gets larger and collapses over time as water fills them and more heavy vehicles crush them deeper and larger. Other times it's bad drainage causing mini-sinkholes and slipping land.

To engineer a road for this it really needs a concrete apron with the engineering knowledge of a civil engineer in the subject. The entire road does not need to be paving concrete, just the most common turning points. The rest of the road can be patches the usual way by cutting out the damaged section and machine compacting with aggregate asphalt. Which they also don't do.

No the solution is that these large construction companies with their 20 to 30 metric tons loaded trucks should be charged and tasked with fixing the roads that they damaged. Which will not happen.
Exactly. Plus the government engineers are in cahoots with crooked officials and contractors. Every time there's a protest, the corporation comes and dumps gravel and yellow boulders without any compaction. Obviously it doesn't last and everyone makes a killing. As hover mentioned, a chain gang may be more cost effective, but CEPEP really can't do any worse than what passes for road repair these days. I have seen some CEPEP gangs take ownership of their area and do a good job with the upkeep. Who knows, maybe they can apply the same attitude and adopt a road.

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby hover11 » July 27th, 2022, 10:52 am

wing wrote:
maj. tom wrote:Because to fix a road properly needs an civil engineer. CEPEP is.... lacking in many aspects. What causes potholes to form is heavy vehicles especially at wheel turning points and then the hole gets larger and collapses over time as water fills them and more heavy vehicles crush them deeper and larger. Other times it's bad drainage causing mini-sinkholes and slipping land.

To engineer a road for this it really needs a concrete apron with the engineering knowledge of a civil engineer in the subject. The entire road does not need to be paving concrete, just the most common turning points. The rest of the road can be patches the usual way by cutting out the damaged section and machine compacting with aggregate asphalt. Which they also don't do.

No the solution is that these large construction companies with their 20 to 30 metric tons loaded trucks should be charged and tasked with fixing the roads that they damaged. Which will not happen.
Exactly. Plus the government engineers are in cahoots with crooked officials and contractors. Every time there's a protest, the corporation comes and dumps gravel and yellow boulders without any compaction. Obviously it doesn't last and everyone makes a killing. As hover mentioned, a chain gang may be more cost effective, but CEPEP really can't do any worse than what passes for road repair these days. I have seen some CEPEP gangs take ownership of their area and do a good job with the upkeep. Who knows, maybe they can apply the same attitude and adopt a road.
CEPEP can't even clean the drains properly, the slightest drizzle in POS and town floods. Yet we continue pumping millions in CEPEP and URP annually with no equitable returns, these have become nothing more than slush funds.

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Re: Trinidad: Pothole capital of the world

Postby Dizzy28 » July 27th, 2022, 10:55 am

maj. tom wrote:Because to fix a road properly needs an civil engineer. CEPEP is.... lacking in many aspects. What causes potholes to form is heavy vehicles especially at wheel turning points and then the hole gets larger and collapses over time as water fills them and more heavy vehicles crush them deeper and larger. Other times it's bad drainage causing mini-sinkholes and slipping land.

To engineer a road for this it really needs a concrete apron with the engineering knowledge of a civil engineer in the subject. The entire road does not need to be paving concrete, just the most common turning points. The rest of the road can be patches the usual way by cutting out the damaged section and machine compacting with aggregate asphalt. Which they also don't do.

No the solution is that these large construction companies with their 20 to 30 metric tons loaded trucks should be charged and tasked with fixing the roads that they damaged. Which will not happen.


The vast majority of bad roads I drive on are not due to deterioration through mechanical, chemical or other means.
It's WASA who digs to repair a leak and never fixes back the dug hole. Once rain starts its gets progressively worse. WASA just puts back dirt into thier excavations and no compaction is done nor asphalt top layer put.

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