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Ben_spanna wrote:take a Really good unbiased look at every single Country around the world that WAs/is governed by people of African background , do you see similarities in ALL of them? how many are actually successful and how many crash and are now the worst places to live with the highest crime rates and lowest quality of life?
Everywhere the criminal statistics are based on the ethnic composition of the respected country............in the far East in sure its Asians that make up the majority of the criminals, in India its probably the Indians and so forth, its no different here.... facts are we have a majority of our population that are African, its not a racial issue...its just facts.....
Ben_spanna wrote:take a Really good unbiased look at every single Country around the world that WAs/is governed by people of African background , do you see similarities in ALL of them? how many are actually successful and how many crash and are now the worst places to live with the highest crime rates and lowest quality of life?
Everywhere the criminal statistics are based on the ethnic composition of the respected country............in the far East in sure its Asians that make up the majority of the criminals, in India its probably the Indians and so forth, its no different here.... facts are we have a majority of our population that are African, its not a racial issue...its just facts.....
Ben_spanna wrote:take a Really good unbiased look at every single Country around the world that WAs/is governed by people of African background , do you see similarities in ALL of them? how many are actually successful and how many crash and are now the worst places to live with the highest crime rates and lowest quality of life?
Everywhere the criminal statistics are based on the ethnic composition of the respected country............in the far East in sure its Asians that make up the majority of the criminals, in India its probably the Indians and so forth, its no different here.... facts are we have a majority of our population that are African, its not a racial issue...its just facts.....
ruffneck_12 wrote:It's just the culture of the area.
Throw some beethamites in central/south with vast expanses of land and they will learn to farm and fix car.
Throw some caroni injuns in the overpopulated hills of POS and they will resort to crime.
(this isn't an excuse though, if you are aware of your situation, try to improve it)
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The_Honourable wrote:It's not just the PNM, but the idea that a black person must have one opinion and one choice due to "group-think" is a huge problem. For Trinidad, one of the group-thinks is that Afro-Trinidadians should support the PNM no matter what even if the party treats them poorly. If you dare go outside of that, you will be chastised and even "disowned". It's no different if a black man in the US decides not to support the Democratic Party, worse yet support the Republican party.
You will be called hurtful names like; lick bottom african, house ******, hate yuh own, sell out, traitor, unintelligent, etc... just because you gone against the established groupthink. Talk to a black man or woman who decides to support UNC and you will hear what they went through.
The group-think problem is not just Trinidad, it is a western black problem.
Redress10 wrote: Cause Indians and the UNC don't suffer from the same group think and don't chastise other indians when they pick the PNM ent?
GTFOH with that bs talk. You coming in here to spread that rubbish and still want people to take ur seriously. Steups
zoom rader wrote:I always said our crime problems sterms from illegal immigrants. Good to see Prof Dosaran wrote up on this.
RedVEVO wrote:zoom rader wrote:I always said our crime problems sterms from illegal immigrants. Good to see Prof Dosaran wrote up on this.
Explain or rethink .
You are proposing the "victimization argument" ?
Morpheus wrote:Yes but it all goes according to what type if crime you talking about eh...
The_Honourable wrote:Redress10 wrote: Cause Indians and the UNC don't suffer from the same group think and don't chastise other indians when they pick the PNM ent?
GTFOH with that bs talk. You coming in here to spread that rubbish and still want people to take ur seriously. Steups
Prove me wrong Redress. Show me an afro-trinidadian who decides to support a political party outside PNM, especially if he/she decides to support the UNC and tell me if he/she will be respectfully left alone with his/her decision? Like men forget about Cro Cro song.
I never said it doesn't happen with Indo-Trinidadians but it's not to the point where a whole community is crippled. Indians have a crab in a barrel syndrome which Selwyn Ryan talked about above. From a political perspective, that is why UNC keeps breaking off into splinter groups (Team Unity, COP, ILP) over the years where most go back when the leader changes. PNM on the other hand is blind loyalty... fortunately some of the supporters waking up.
eliteauto wrote:The_Honourable wrote:Redress10 wrote: Cause Indians and the UNC don't suffer from the same group think and don't chastise other indians when they pick the PNM ent?
GTFOH with that bs talk. You coming in here to spread that rubbish and still want people to take ur seriously. Steups
Prove me wrong Redress. Show me an afro-trinidadian who decides to support a political party outside PNM, especially if he/she decides to support the UNC and tell me if he/she will be respectfully left alone with his/her decision? Like men forget about Cro Cro song.
I never said it doesn't happen with Indo-Trinidadians but it's not to the point where a whole community is crippled. Indians have a crab in a barrel syndrome which Selwyn Ryan talked about above. From a political perspective, that is why UNC keeps breaking off into splinter groups (Team Unity, COP, ILP) over the years where most go back when the leader changes. PNM on the other hand is blind loyalty... fortunately some of the supporters waking up.
If I may ask a question as we go along you line of thinking The Honourable, the UNC was in Gov't twice, 1995-2001 and 2010-2015, it is statistically impossible for the party to win without Afro-Trini support which is perceived to be prevalent along the E-W corridor and Tobago, so in light of this can you show me examples of the mass rebuke and vitriol against the "groupthink" that you espouse?
mero wrote:Minus the gang warfare, you'll find these beloved good injuns right up there starring in the most heinous crimes in the country specifically rape and murder, and not to mention "calling shot" on ppl for the most trivial things, especially their own family members.
Enough with this, all injuns does do is a a lil fraud and beat they father sheit. They just as much involved in all the sheit the bad black PNM people doing .
Stop fooling yuh self
ruffneck_12 wrote:This is an interesting take on things
eliteauto wrote:If I may ask a question as we go along you line of thinking The Honourable, the UNC was in Gov't twice, 1995-2001 and 2010-2015, it is statistically impossible for the party to win without Afro-Trini support which is perceived to be prevalent along the E-W corridor and Tobago, so in light of this can you show me examples of the mass rebuke and vitriol against the "groupthink" that you espouse?
Why are blacks not wealthy*
Excerpts from an interview with a Jewish leader about Blacks.
INTERVIEWER:
Why are blacks so behind Economically?
JEWISH LEADER:
The only thing blacks understand is Consumption.
Blacks don't understand the importance of creating and building wealth.
The fundamental rule is to keep your money within your racial group.
We the Jews
- build Jewish business,
- hire Jewish,
- buy Jewish and
- spend Jewish. There is nothing wrong with that but it is a basic rule blacks cannot comprehend and follow;
"He kills his fellow blacks daily instead of wanting to see his fellow black succeed"
93% of blacks killed in America are by other blacks. The story is not different in Africa.
Their leaders steal from their people and send the money back to their colonial master from whom they borrow the same money from.
Every successful black wants to spend his money in the country of his colonial masters.
They
- go on holiday abroad,
- buy houses abroad,
- school abroad,
- go for medical treatment abroad etc
instead of spending this money in their own country to benefit their people.
Statistics show that the Jew's money exchanges hands 18 times before leaving his community while for blacks it is probably a maximum of once or even zero.
Only 6% of black money goes back into their community. This is why Jews are at the top and blacks are at the bottom of every ladder of society.
Instead of buying
- Louis Vuitton,
- Hermes,
- expensive cars,
- shoes,
-houses,
-dresses etc,
Blacks could
- industralize Africa,
- build banks and get rid of colonial institutions by putting them out of business.
INTERVIEWER:
What is your thought on failure of blacks after 150yrs?
JEWISH LEADER:
Well, nothing is ever the blackman's fault. His
- compulsive habit of killing his own to climb the economic ladder;
- compulsive material consumption;
- tendency to bring down fellow blacks deemed successful or better disposed;
- His inability to build businesses or
- preserve wealth are usually somebody else's fault.
INTERVIEWER:
So what can blacks do to liberate themselves
JEWISH LEADER: Blacks must take responsibility. Blacks must unite. And vehemently fight corrupt leaders who run down their country and run to IMF as though IMF is Father Christmas.
They need to look inwards otherwise they will continuously remain economically colonized and lose their place in history.
Pls forward this until it goes round the Carribean the continent of Africa and the whole world
We all need to learn our lessons quick and build our black race.
TLG
Eh bro stop talking chit.Monk BANzai wrote:You really expect Afro-Trini's to respond to this when you have'nt even shown how Indians (with over 2,000 of its own ethnic groups) within india have kept their version of slavery/child labor/corruption/Rape/ alive for over 2 centuries? On a board/forum thats predominantly Indian?
stop making it a one-sided political conversation and maybe the learned black response will come forth. Race and Crime. Restart your suppositions one those two words....
Nice report (Selwyn Ryan) Honourable. Need to go read that entire thing. if you have a URL link to a PDF inbox me...or post it here.
Thanks.
*edit: found it.
http://www.ttparliament.org/documents/2197.pdf
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