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No clue how that system working.Phone Surgeon wrote:Is the record "live" or up to date thought?*KRONIK* wrote:But EVERYTIME you go for a COC is the same procedureadnj wrote:Most countries don't fingerprint their citizens until they either apply for a passport or are taken into police custody.
That CoC looks like it's just a way for TTPS to build a database of fingerprints for everyone that has ever filled out an application in Trinidad.
Background checks are done by name and address. Fingerprints just assist in preventing applicants from using forged ID.
Either scan on the machine or ink & roll
I doh understand why, if they scanning your hand and taking your ID info, why they cant just store it
So next time you want a COC, they can pull up your name and check the record and givw you the COC 1 time
Do all random stations have access to the same database they have in pos? They probably need to do a revamp like what license office doing.
[/quote]pugboy wrote:what you mean? that is how they do it
the system that broken down is the computer side where they can the paper with ink prints and
let the computer analyze
[quote by="redmanjp"]they should be doing the old fashion ink and roll - they did it last time it went down
redmanjp wrote:pugboy wrote:what you mean? that is how they do it
the system that broken down is the computer side where they can the paper with ink prints and
let the computer analyze
[quote by="redmanjp"]they should be doing the old fashion ink and roll - they did it last time it went down
Sometimes when the CoC system is down that is down also. That is the same system that 20 year old warrants still show up and can land a person in a cell and months down the road is lawsuit for wrong imprisonment because warrant was executed a long time agoPhone Surgeon wrote:I eh read the link but can't they type in your name or Id number and see if you have a record?hustla_ambition101 wrote:Like the fat affecting his brains because he is making no sense. How can an officer who doesnt know you recommend you. He feel is 1940 awahhover11 wrote:While businesses complain about hiring people blindly as people cannot access Certificates of Character (CoC), the T&T Police Service (TTPS) says employers can use their area police stations to access referrals.
Read more...
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/dcp-emp ... 8c38e2320b
There are less than 10 of those in existence. Prints are rolled via ink and paper, scanned and entered into a database.[/quote]hustla_ambition101 wrote:redmanjp wrote:pugboy wrote:what you mean? that is how they do it
the system that broken down is the computer side where they can the paper with ink prints and
let the computer analyze
[quote by="redmanjp"]they should be doing the old fashion ink and roll - they did it last time it went down
afaik they supposed to have scanners that scan your finger directly - no ink involved
redmanjp wrote:a lil birdie told me it back up
Citizens can once again receive a Certificate of Character (CoC) from the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service (TTPS).
On March 16, Deputy Commissioner of Police (DCP) Curt Simon said the "technical matter" which led to the breakdown of the Automated Fingerprint Identification System (AFIS) would have been rectified by Wednesday March 22 to bring about some "temporary relief".
Today, TTPS Public Information Officer, Inspector Michelle Lewis told Guardian Media that on Friday, AFIS was fully functional once again and CoCs can be generated now.
Inspector Lewis added that what is in place now is not "temporary relief" but rather the entire system is functioning as it used to.
She could not tell Guardian Media what the "technical matter" was which led to the malfunction but she said local and international technicians worked on rectifying the problem.
CoC's could not have been issued since February 2023
In a freedom-of-information request, Balgobin-Maharaj also wants to know the total amount of money the police owed creditors up to February 28; if any outstanding licence fees are owed to suppliers of equipment, and the amount owed; if the service has paid licence fees for the system and the amount paid; and how much was spent on the system for 2022.
In a letter to the commissioner last week, attorney Vishaal Siewsaran said his client was concerned after reading an article quoting former police commissioner Gary Griffith speaking at a joint select committee hearing of a $182 million debt the police owed to suppliers of IT and equipment, among other things.
"Many businessmen have complained to the applicant that they are being owed monies by the TTPS and they are not being paid.
I applaud Ravi for trying a thing here however,this just showcasing an even bigger issue, a small percentage of the number of independent contractors who are owed payment for work done for this government. Nevertheless let the power of the freedom of information Act highlight their incompetence.redmanjp wrote:https://newsday.co.tt/2023/03/27/activist-why-is-police-fingerprint-id-system-out-of-action/In a freedom-of-information request, Balgobin-Maharaj also wants to know the total amount of money the police owed creditors up to February 28; if any outstanding licence fees are owed to suppliers of equipment, and the amount owed; if the service has paid licence fees for the system and the amount paid; and how much was spent on the system for 2022.
In a letter to the commissioner last week, attorney Vishaal Siewsaran said his client was concerned after reading an article quoting former police commissioner Gary Griffith speaking at a joint select committee hearing of a $182 million debt the police owed to suppliers of IT and equipment, among other things."Many businessmen have complained to the applicant that they are being owed monies by the TTPS and they are not being paid.
pugboy wrote:ent ttps gets the biggest chunk of the national budget?
we have a right to know
Those were on order since Gary/jacob days. Just to pur things in perspective. Many of the PEC Xtrails that you seeing being used already hit 100k mileage and they didnt reach a year old yet.pugboy wrote:i see ttps sporting a whole setta new vehicles
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