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wtf wrote:If you are going into your own business, what formal education do you need?
Business Management?
Knowledge of Accounting?
I ask this for all the Science minded graduates who never did any business subjects or courses in there life.
Operating a business successfully may be hard for them.
I'm thinking that these business men have to hire accountants to balance their books for them.alfa wrote:wtf wrote:If you are going into your own business, what formal education do you need?
Business Management?
Knowledge of Accounting?
I ask this for all the Science minded graduates who never did any business subjects or courses in there life.
Operating a business successfully may be hard for them.
I believe some basic knowledge as to how to go about the legal framework as it applies to Trinidad like getting your business registered and getting a VAT number and all that. After that lots of common sense. There are many folks with MBAs who cannot run a simple palour and many successful business men who never did a formal business course
boom!!!ProtonPowder wrote:The problem with short courses is that they are too watered down to be useful most of the time. Some institutions may be better than others.
I recently finished one from UWI and doing another one right now. Is all textbook theory that hardly has a place in the real world, and a chorus of people with no experience bandying around these ideas like they have a clue.
What are some essential short courses you think are worth doing for business ownership?ProtonPowder wrote:The problem with short courses is that they are too watered down to be useful most of the time. Some institutions may be better than others. It really only useful to chuck on a resume if you are young.
I recently finished one from UWI and doing another one right now. Is all textbook theory that hardly has a place in the real world, and a chorus of people with no experience bandying around these ideas like they have a clue.
wtf wrote:What are some essential short courses you think are worth doing for business ownership?ProtonPowder wrote:The problem with short courses is that they are too watered down to be useful most of the time. Some institutions may be better than others. It really only useful to chuck on a resume if you are young.
I recently finished one from UWI and doing another one right now. Is all textbook theory that hardly has a place in the real world, and a chorus of people with no experience bandying around these ideas like they have a clue.
ProtonPowder wrote:wtf wrote:What are some essential short courses you think are worth doing for business ownership?ProtonPowder wrote:The problem with short courses is that they are too watered down to be useful most of the time. Some institutions may be better than others. It really only useful to chuck on a resume if you are young.
I recently finished one from UWI and doing another one right now. Is all textbook theory that hardly has a place in the real world, and a chorus of people with no experience bandying around these ideas like they have a clue.
If you looking to be a business owner, you have to try surrounding yourself with those people who either there already or on their way there. They will have the best ideas on what works or doesnt.
ProtonPowder wrote:The problem with short courses is that they are too watered down to be useful most of the time. Some institutions may be better than others. It really only useful to chuck on a resume if you are young.
I recently finished one from UWI and doing another one right now. Is all textbook theory that hardly has a place in the real world, and a chorus of people with no experience bandying around these ideas like they have a clue.
SuperiorMan wrote:Don't you think it might get better? I hear talk that it was like this in the 80s.
Redress10 wrote:SuperiorMan wrote:Don't you think it might get better? I hear talk that it was like this in the 80s.
No it will not get better.
Let me tell you why. Have a seat.
We are going for a history lesson.
Trinidad and Tobago is a "made up" country. What this means is that the people who are residing and governing here were never meant to govern anything. Slaves were never meant to govern anything. Indentured labourers were never meant to govern, that responsibility belonged to a different class of Indians. One that still governs India today. The whites ruling class were essentially white working class brits who were sent to the Caribbean in servitude for crimes etc. Most people who owned plantations in the caribbean never even set foot in the caribbean. They had overseers to handle that. That white working class group essentially became our local whites. They essentially became our ruling elite.
Governance is something that is passed through generations. That is why monarchies exist/existed. That is why America has fought to create a political class for hundreds of years. The Kennedy' or Bush's are a recent example.
The African political/wealthy class are not the descendents of slaves etc. There forefathers were rulers and members of the elite class for centuries. Africans can trace their lineage back hundreds and possibly thousands of years. Africans identify themselves by tribes first and foremost. That solidifies identity and social cohesion.That is also the cause of the many tribal wars that erupt from time to time. You need social cohesion in order to develop.
Contrast this with TT. Our country was never meant to be developed or even last. The caribbean was colonised in order to extract resources(mainly cane and free labour) and export the profits back to Europe. That was the sole purpose so the infrastructure, institutions ,roads and towns that were built were suppose to reflect this. Upon Independence what the country got was exchange. We exchanged the monarchy for a political class that sees themselves as the new Monarch. They don't govern for us. They rule over us. Our resources are still exploited and sent oversees to the benefit of a few and they claim to offer public goods.
The ruling political class essentially controls all of our resources but for personal gain. They then share up these resources to their close friends and family in the form of gov't contracts under the guise of capitalism whilst using "socialism" as the reason. You see the public health sector that costs upwards of 6 billion dollars each year but somehow doesn't get better isn't exactly free. The whole illusion of the "free" health sector is to mask the fact that billions of dollars in tenders actually make their way into the hands of private citizens who are friends and family of the political class. Same goes for education, nat security and works and transport.
There is no real capitalism or socialism here only cronyism and tenderpreneurship. So nothing can improve or actually develop. That is the reality of Trinidad and Tobago. Don't let anyone fool ya. If you want to know what a real country looks like. Just look at all the countries that took the time and resources to develop a vaccine for their people. Those are the countries that understand the importance of sovereignty and increasing ya capabilities. Just look at Cuba. Cuba is a real place.
zoom rader wrote:Redress10 wrote:SuperiorMan wrote:Don't you think it might get better? I hear talk that it was like this in the 80s.
No it will not get better.
Let me tell you why. Have a seat.
We are going for a history lesson.
Trinidad and Tobago is a "made up" country. What this means is that the people who are residing and governing here were never meant to govern anything. Slaves were never meant to govern anything. Indentured labourers were never meant to govern, that responsibility belonged to a different class of Indians. One that still governs India today. The whites ruling class were essentially white working class brits who were sent to the Caribbean in servitude for crimes etc. Most people who owned plantations in the caribbean never even set foot in the caribbean. They had overseers to handle that. That white working class group essentially became our local whites. They essentially became our ruling elite.
Governance is something that is passed through generations. That is why monarchies exist/existed. That is why America has fought to create a political class for hundreds of years. The Kennedy' or Bush's are a recent example.
The African political/wealthy class are not the descendents of slaves etc. There forefathers were rulers and members of the elite class for centuries. Africans can trace their lineage back hundreds and possibly thousands of years. Africans identify themselves by tribes first and foremost. That solidifies identity and social cohesion.That is also the cause of the many tribal wars that erupt from time to time. You need social cohesion in order to develop.
Contrast this with TT. Our country was never meant to be developed or even last. The caribbean was colonised in order to extract resources(mainly cane and free labour) and export the profits back to Europe. That was the sole purpose so the infrastructure, institutions ,roads and towns that were built were suppose to reflect this. Upon Independence what the country got was exchange. We exchanged the monarchy for a political class that sees themselves as the new Monarch. They don't govern for us. They rule over us. Our resources are still exploited and sent oversees to the benefit of a few and they claim to offer public goods.
The ruling political class essentially controls all of our resources but for personal gain. They then share up these resources to their close friends and family in the form of gov't contracts under the guise of capitalism whilst using "socialism" as the reason. You see the public health sector that costs upwards of 6 billion dollars each year but somehow doesn't get better isn't exactly free. The whole illusion of the "free" health sector is to mask the fact that billions of dollars in tenders actually make their way into the hands of private citizens who are friends and family of the political class. Same goes for education, nat security and works and transport.
There is no real capitalism or socialism here only cronyism and tenderpreneurship. So nothing can improve or actually develop. That is the reality of Trinidad and Tobago. Don't let anyone fool ya. If you want to know what a real country looks like. Just look at all the countries that took the time and resources to develop a vaccine for their people. Those are the countries that understand the importance of sovereignty and increasing ya capabilities. Just look at Cuba. Cuba is a real place.
Hoss , I have been telling these idiots on tuner this for years.
Another Fact was that some slaves owners in Trinidad were black that came from Martinique. Trinidad history books have omitted that part of history . Why do you think french Creole folk are wealthy, they made money from slavery
Redress10 wrote:SuperiorMan wrote:Don't you think it might get better? I hear talk that it was like this in the 80s.
No it will not get better.
Let me tell you why. Have a seat.
We are going for a history lesson.
Trinidad and Tobago is a "made up" country. What this means is that the people who are residing and governing here were never meant to govern anything. Slaves were never meant to govern anything. Indentured labourers were never meant to govern, that responsibility belonged to a different class of Indians. One that still governs India today. The whites ruling class were essentially white working class brits who were sent to the Caribbean in servitude for crimes etc. Most people who owned plantations in the caribbean never even set foot in the caribbean. They had overseers to handle that. That white working class group essentially became our local whites. They essentially became our ruling elite.
Governance is something that is passed through generations. That is why monarchies exist/existed. That is why America has fought to create a political class for hundreds of years. The Kennedy' or Bush's are a recent example.
The African political/wealthy class are not the descendents of slaves etc. There forefathers were rulers and members of the elite class for centuries. Africans can trace their lineage back hundreds and possibly thousands of years. Africans identify themselves by tribes first and foremost. That solidifies identity and social cohesion.That is also the cause of the many tribal wars that erupt from time to time. You need social cohesion in order to develop.
Contrast this with TT. Our country was never meant to be developed or even last. The caribbean was colonised in order to extract resources(mainly cane and free labour) and export the profits back to Europe. That was the sole purpose so the infrastructure, institutions ,roads and towns that were built were suppose to reflect this. Upon Independence what the country got was exchange. We exchanged the monarchy for a political class that sees themselves as the new Monarch. They don't govern for us. They rule over us. Our resources are still exploited and sent oversees to the benefit of a few and they claim to offer public goods.
The ruling political class essentially controls all of our resources but for personal gain. They then share up these resources to their close friends and family in the form of gov't contracts under the guise of capitalism whilst using "socialism" as the reason. You see the public health sector that costs upwards of 6 billion dollars each year but somehow doesn't get better isn't exactly free. The whole illusion of the "free" health sector is to mask the fact that billions of dollars in tenders actually make their way into the hands of private citizens who are friends and family of the political class. Same goes for education, nat security and works and transport.
There is no real capitalism or socialism here only cronyism and tenderpreneurship. So nothing can improve or actually develop. That is the reality of Trinidad and Tobago. Don't let anyone fool ya. If you want to know what a real country looks like. Just look at all the countries that took the time and resources to develop a vaccine for their people. Those are the countries that understand the importance of sovereignty and increasing ya capabilities. Just look at Cuba. Cuba is a real place.
ThanksSuperiorMan wrote:zoom rader wrote:Redress10 wrote:SuperiorMan wrote:Don't you think it might get better? I hear talk that it was like this in the 80s.
No it will not get better.
Let me tell you why. Have a seat.
We are going for a history lesson.
Trinidad and Tobago is a "made up" country. What this means is that the people who are residing and governing here were never meant to govern anything. Slaves were never meant to govern anything. Indentured labourers were never meant to govern, that responsibility belonged to a different class of Indians. One that still governs India today. The whites ruling class were essentially white working class brits who were sent to the Caribbean in servitude for crimes etc. Most people who owned plantations in the caribbean never even set foot in the caribbean. They had overseers to handle that. That white working class group essentially became our local whites. They essentially became our ruling elite.
Governance is something that is passed through generations. That is why monarchies exist/existed. That is why America has fought to create a political class for hundreds of years. The Kennedy' or Bush's are a recent example.
The African political/wealthy class are not the descendents of slaves etc. There forefathers were rulers and members of the elite class for centuries. Africans can trace their lineage back hundreds and possibly thousands of years. Africans identify themselves by tribes first and foremost. That solidifies identity and social cohesion.That is also the cause of the many tribal wars that erupt from time to time. You need social cohesion in order to develop.
Contrast this with TT. Our country was never meant to be developed or even last. The caribbean was colonised in order to extract resources(mainly cane and free labour) and export the profits back to Europe. That was the sole purpose so the infrastructure, institutions ,roads and towns that were built were suppose to reflect this. Upon Independence what the country got was exchange. We exchanged the monarchy for a political class that sees themselves as the new Monarch. They don't govern for us. They rule over us. Our resources are still exploited and sent oversees to the benefit of a few and they claim to offer public goods.
The ruling political class essentially controls all of our resources but for personal gain. They then share up these resources to their close friends and family in the form of gov't contracts under the guise of capitalism whilst using "socialism" as the reason. You see the public health sector that costs upwards of 6 billion dollars each year but somehow doesn't get better isn't exactly free. The whole illusion of the "free" health sector is to mask the fact that billions of dollars in tenders actually make their way into the hands of private citizens who are friends and family of the political class. Same goes for education, nat security and works and transport.
There is no real capitalism or socialism here only cronyism and tenderpreneurship. So nothing can improve or actually develop. That is the reality of Trinidad and Tobago. Don't let anyone fool ya. If you want to know what a real country looks like. Just look at all the countries that took the time and resources to develop a vaccine for their people. Those are the countries that understand the importance of sovereignty and increasing ya capabilities. Just look at Cuba. Cuba is a real place.
Hoss , I have been telling these idiots on tuner this for years.
Another Fact was that some slaves owners in Trinidad were black that came from Martinique. Trinidad history books have omitted that part of history . Why do you think french Creole folk are wealthy, they made money from slavery
Hello Zoom,
The only idiot on tuner is you.
Falsematr1x wrote:Hustling is for people who only live day to day.
That's not an intelligent way to live
mero wrote:You can be a smart successful hustler and an educated fool.
Plenty hustlers thriving and plenty degree holders etc suffering cuz all they know is book and theory
Never be a shupidee, and know what you good at
mero wrote:You can be a smart successful hustler and an educated fool.
Plenty hustlers thriving and plenty degree holders etc suffering cuz all they know is book and theory
Never be a shupidee, and know what you good at
Only friends and family get jobs in Trinidad.Redress10 wrote:mero wrote:You can be a smart successful hustler and an educated fool.
Plenty hustlers thriving and plenty degree holders etc suffering cuz all they know is book and theory
Never be a shupidee, and know what you good at
In Trinidad*
That's because the degree itself isn't worth the paper it is printed on. Drop out of UWI and you end up selling nuts on the highway. Drop out of Harvard and you will probably end up a billionaire.
Most people in a university abroad would already be getting job offers in their final year of study. Not sure what the process is in TT for UWI etc.
Not all degrees are equal.
wtf wrote:Only friends and family get jobs in Trinidad.Redress10 wrote:mero wrote:You can be a smart successful hustler and an educated fool.
Plenty hustlers thriving and plenty degree holders etc suffering cuz all they know is book and theory
Never be a shupidee, and know what you good at
In Trinidad*
That's because the degree itself isn't worth the paper it is printed on. Drop out of UWI and you end up selling nuts on the highway. Drop out of Harvard and you will probably end up a billionaire.
Most people in a university abroad would already be getting job offers in their final year of study. Not sure what the process is in TT for UWI etc.
Not all degrees are equal.
The rest of the graduates have to fit in somewhere irrelevant.
The "side hustles" are better in America than Trinidad.ProtonPowder wrote:Just like trinidad then, but in the states is more about what university you went to for that degree than your grades.
And even there, there are people with stem degrees that cant find work. But then its about the unpaid internships you had to fight for. Just keep moving those goalposts.
I up until recently had a fella working on my team. Just about my age. Fella would spout all the points yall making here and look like he always reading the next big self help book. I never tell him anything. If he want to read at his desk I wont stop him. He always used to come late, want to leave early and take long lunches. The quality of his work was steadily slipping, all because he want to ignore his well paying 8-4 day job, so he could resell watches he buy on Amazon.
Spend 5000, gross 2000 and call yourself an entrepreneur. Its the trinidadian way.