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ronsin1 wrote:Did you get through with the garage door control?
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:ronsin1 wrote:They have RF smart devices as well however I never used it
I decided to control my garage gate with a smart relay with inching feature
It's a sonoff device
It uses a 5v power supply that you ha e to purchase separate which I did
Didn't see the need for add the RF device
I'll see if I find the link for the RF device for youDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:sensibo adjusts for you based on temp though. So if the room goes past 29degrees, the AC turns on. But I understand not many ppl may need that. It is great to see the temp and humidity of rooms in your home though.ronsin1 wrote:No it does not have any sensors on it
It replaces any or all remote controls you have
As for temp and humidity you can use It to set your AC on what function you want
However still can’t beat the price of the one you posted.
I even have a couple Logitech Harmony hubs but still can’t beat your price.
I wish these could control RF devices as well, like the garage door, driveway gate and a ceiling fan I have that uses an RF remote.
I saw the Sonoff, tell me more, how did you connect it?
Need details
Currently reading through this
https://hackaday.com/2019/07/14/homekit ... -a-bridge/
which natively adds HomeKit to Sonoff switches without the need for a HomeBridge server
eitech wrote:Are there 220v smart outlets to control a water pump or water heater?
4kin4kar wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:ronsin1 wrote:They have RF smart devices as well however I never used it
I decided to control my garage gate with a smart relay with inching feature
It's a sonoff device
It uses a 5v power supply that you ha e to purchase separate which I did
Didn't see the need for add the RF device
I'll see if I find the link for the RF device for youDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:sensibo adjusts for you based on temp though. So if the room goes past 29degrees, the AC turns on. But I understand not many ppl may need that. It is great to see the temp and humidity of rooms in your home though.ronsin1 wrote:No it does not have any sensors on it
It replaces any or all remote controls you have
As for temp and humidity you can use It to set your AC on what function you want
However still can’t beat the price of the one you posted.
I even have a couple Logitech Harmony hubs but still can’t beat your price.
I wish these could control RF devices as well, like the garage door, driveway gate and a ceiling fan I have that uses an RF remote.
I saw the Sonoff, tell me more, how did you connect it?
Need details
Currently reading through this
https://hackaday.com/2019/07/14/homekit ... -a-bridge/
which natively adds HomeKit to Sonoff switches without the need for a HomeBridge server
This is all you need, I'm currently controlling my garage door and gate with two of these.
https://www.amazon.com/Momentary-Self-l ... B07Z76NFTR
thelem-again wrote:eitech wrote:Are there 220v smart outlets to control a water pump or water heater?
Interested as well for the pump.
However, I was thinking instead of an outlet, I can utilize a switch. It should be able to handle the load for a water pump atleast based on the amperage. Yes/No?
For the water heater, I'm not sure how efficient it'll be to have one on a smart outlet/switch.
Most smart outlets and switches are rated 15A or so.eitech wrote:thelem-again wrote:eitech wrote:Are there 220v smart outlets to control a water pump or water heater?
Interested as well for the pump.
However, I was thinking instead of an outlet, I can utilize a switch. It should be able to handle the load for a water pump atleast based on the amperage. Yes/No?
For the water heater, I'm not sure how efficient it'll be to have one on a smart outlet/switch.
Did a bit of research. The 220v smart plugs require a hot and neutral. Our wiring here for 220v consist of two hot wires. They wont work. My pump is controlled through a contactor so i can use a smart plug to control the 120v contactor.
The water heater could work under the same arrangement. Just ensure which ever contactor is selected that the contacts can handle the load requirements of either pump or water heater.
Gladiator wrote:Just curious... But can you share why exactly you want to add the water pump to a smart switch...
adnj wrote:Most smart outlets and switches are rated 15A or so.eitech wrote:thelem-again wrote:eitech wrote:Are there 220v smart outlets to control a water pump or water heater?
Interested as well for the pump.
However, I was thinking instead of an outlet, I can utilize a switch. It should be able to handle the load for a water pump atleast based on the amperage. Yes/No?
For the water heater, I'm not sure how efficient it'll be to have one on a smart outlet/switch.
Did a bit of research. The 220v smart plugs require a hot and neutral. Our wiring here for 220v consist of two hot wires. They wont work. My pump is controlled through a contactor so i can use a smart plug to control the 120v contactor.
The water heater could work under the same arrangement. Just ensure which ever contactor is selected that the contacts can handle the load requirements of either pump or water heater.
Typically:
A water heater will use 230V 30A or more.
A 1hp pump will use 120V 14A at full load BUT there is an in-rush current of up to 300A and a start-up current of about 120A before settling down to about 8A.
However, you could use a relay to control the device outlet with no further need for concern.
fokhan_96 wrote:^^^ how come the pump doesn't trip the 20A breaker if it pulls more than 20A at startup?
Breakers have what they call in rush current protection which will prevent the breaker from tripping when a motor startsfokhan_96 wrote:^^^ how come the pump doesn't trip the 20A breaker if it pulls more than 20A at startup?
eitech wrote:thelem-again wrote:eitech wrote:Are there 220v smart outlets to control a water pump or water heater?
Interested as well for the pump.
However, I was thinking instead of an outlet, I can utilize a switch. It should be able to handle the load for a water pump atleast based on the amperage. Yes/No?
For the water heater, I'm not sure how efficient it'll be to have one on a smart outlet/switch.
Did a bit of research. The 220v smart plugs require a hot and neutral. Our wiring here for 220v consist of two hot wires. They wont work. My pump is controlled through a contactor so i can use a smart plug to control the 120v contactor.
The water heater could work under the same arrangement. Just ensure which ever contactor is selected that the contacts can handle the load requirements of either pump or water heater.
Gladiator wrote:I think that putting high powered heating and motor driven devices such as water heaters and pumps on smart switches is not a wise thing though.
If servers go down or internet drops out you don't want your water pump not being able to turn on or your water heater on a default on state. Those high powered devices should remain in standard wiring and control configurations. There are also some safety considerations to note.
For lights and small appliances such as fans etc it makes more sense to use the smart devices to control them.
I am speaking from a 15 years or so of experience from using the X10 platform back then to now using Samsung smart home, Google home, Amazon Alexa, WIMO, Sylvania/Osram Lightify, smart life, Harmony...
Oh and yeah I have Samsung smart home, Google home and Amazon Alexa running simultaneously.... No problems this far.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:But these smart devices have manual overrides.
So if you have a smart switch/timer handling your water heater or sprinkler or AC unit, there is the usual normal way to turn it on and off also.
Gladiator wrote:That's true for some devices WRT the manual override. I guess you can also wire in a manual override switch if using a contactor type arrangement.
For garden sprinklers definitely... For a water pump still I find it is overkill and asking for trouble. If you plumb your pump correctly and use a standard pressure switch you would be just fine to just leave it on and let those components do their thing.
However I have used some devices that default on the on state after an outage. This can be a scary situation if you not home or on vacation and appliances remain on after a power outage.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:But these smart devices have manual overrides.
So if you have a smart switch/timer handling your water heater or sprinkler or AC unit, there is the usual normal way to turn it on and off also.
eitech wrote:Got my smart plugs this evening. Installed one on water pump. That’s one less walk to the laundry.
thelem-again wrote:eitech wrote:Got my smart plugs this evening. Installed one on water pump. That’s one less walk to the laundry.
Ok so what was the brand of the smart plug and what is the type of water pump also?
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