THOUSANDS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS GRANTED CITIZENSHIP

[SergioP]

Thousands of illegal immigrants granted citizenship since start of New Year (January 2017)

In response to our Minister of Foreign Affairs Dennis Moses’ statements in Parliament.

First he says that there are 15,042 illegals in the country. He then tells us where 2,265 came from. What about the other 12,777 Mr Moses?

He then goes on to state that the extraordinary amount of 30,200 people were granted permanent residency status in the first five months of this year!

Mr Moses, that is 72,480 people a year. Amazing!

In ten years that would amount to almost half our population being added. This is madness of the highest order if this is correct. Trinidad and Tobago cannot afford this.

Mr Moses needs to give an explanation to the citizens at large.

DR DAVID SALINGER

MARAVAL

http://www.guardian.co.tt/letters/2017- ... dad-tobago

[SergioP]

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[*$kїđž!™]

Man hadda padd up for elections next few years...

[AnthSmth]

How is this even legal ??

[Dizzy28]

Regularization of immigrants is a positive approach to a very serious problem Trinidad has - a declining population.

You all can sit and be xenophobes or realize that without a robust 18-60 age group we cannot hope to achieve economic growth particularly without oil and gas. NIS payments depend on contributions and the number of contributors are declining. If we can get more then the burden becomes less on each one of us.

[AnthSmth]

^ bro, wat are you talking about ? Jobs are already hard to find.
Thousands of people have already been sent home since the start of the year.

[Dizzy28]

Jobs losses are cyclical.

We want diversification and a prerequisite is a workforce that is growing.
As it is right now its chicken and egg as to whether the economic growth comes first or the pop growth but we definitely need more working aged ppl. Its up to the public and private sector to create the jobs if they want to achieve sustainable growth.

[airuma]

Regularization of immigrants is a positive approach to a very serious problem Trinidad has - a declining population.

You all can sit and be xenophobes or realize that without a robust 18-60 age group we cannot hope to achieve economic growth particularly without oil and gas. NIS payments depend on contributions and the number of contributors are declining. If we can get more then the burden becomes less on each one of us.

Not sure if it is Xenophobia more than it is guarding OUR resources for OUR people. People are loosing jobs at a high rate..... granting citizenship has a high risk of increasing a suffering population, this will not achieve economic growth either!
Either way, I have some questions:
What are the figures for citizenship for the last five years?
What is the criteria for granting citizenship?
Who did the majority of these people come from?
Who are these people?

Regularly I see employment advertisements in the local news paper asking for 8-15 years experience in a specialized field..... we live in Trinidad..... we do not have a population to support being a specialist without having to charge high prices. The most recent figure I heard (according to a senior doctor) was 500 young doctors at home...... apart from criminal lawyers, there are too many lawyers (according to a senior lawyer)...... people got laid off from Mittal who were "specialist" in what they do but cannot obtain anywhere near their salary since the job market does not require their skill.
I have been told that these advertisements are "designed" to NOT get anyone locally so that the work permit process can go smoothly and there is no good argument for me to believe otherwise.... importing labour does not necessarily build internal capacity.
I think we need to protect our own first if we are to see economic prosperity..... as the old saying goes.... charity begins at home!

[zoom rader]

Now we know how PNM steals an elections

[Ben_spanna]

Regularization of immigrants is a positive approach to a very serious problem Trinidad has - a declining population.

You all can sit and be xenophobes or realize that without a robust 18-60 age group we cannot hope to achieve economic growth particularly without oil and gas. NIS payments depend on contributions and the number of contributors are declining. If we can get more then the burden becomes less on each one of us.

Most of the individuals who are dying are criminals or people involved in gang warfare in which case they never positively contributed to the economy anyways... they didn't work, they didn't pay taxes, yet when they got shot our tax payers money had to pay for their surgery. Its probably better that they did in fact die.

[vaiostation]

Met a few Chinese recently, they can't really read English or speak it, but somehow got citizenship and driver's license...
Guess, money talks...?

[zoom rader]

Met a few Chinese recently, they can't really read English or speak it, but somehow got citizenship and driver's license...
Guess, money talks...?

Citizenship is easy to get its not that hard. You can get it in two years once you living here legally

[AstonMartV]

Met a few Chinese recently, they can't really read English or speak it, but somehow got citizenship and driver's license...
Guess, money talks...?

Stood in line behind one yesterday. He came to buy a phone card, couldn’t speak English and handed the cashier the phone, which was completely in Chinese and made hand signals. Cashier figured out he wanted a phone card and asked him bmobile or Digicel. He didn’t know what she was saying and after she tried to explain what she was talking about he says bmobile. She print the phone card and gave it to him. He does the hand signals again and she puts the number on the phone for him and shows him the balance. Man snatch the phone from her and walked off. Not even a thank you

[88sins]

The real question I have is what going on with those foreign nationals that have been here legally for years & have no intention to ever apply for citizenship or even permanent residence.
Foreigners that come here to work is one thing, but we must encourage those that do to remain here & develop this nation. It doesn't help our economy to have foreigners come here to occupy positions that could be filled by locals, then having to pay them in USD or whatever forex currency that they then send back to their nation of origin.
It doesn't help to grant illegal immigrants citizenship either. They broke the nations laws by staying here illegally, so what is really the true message are our so-called leaders are putting out there? If you're an illegal it's ok to breach our immigration laws, & you'll be rewarded with citizenship to remedy the issue, but if you're a born & bred citizen on the highway doing 82khp is shaft for you?

[RedVEVO]

^ bro, wat are you talking about ? Jobs are already hard to find.
Thousands of people have already been sent home since the start of the year.

What jobs you talking about ?

You mean where you "sign book" and then go home ?

[redmanjp]

Met a few Chinese recently, they can't really read English or speak it, but somehow got citizenship and driver's license...
Guess, money talks...?

Stood in line behind one yesterday. He came to buy a phone card, couldn’t speak English and handed the cashier the phone, which was completely in Chinese and made hand signals. Cashier figured out he wanted a phone card and asked him bmobile or Digicel. He didn’t know what she was saying and after she tried to explain what she was talking about he says bmobile. She print the phone card and gave it to him. He does the hand signals again and she puts the number on the phone for him and shows him the balance. Man snatch the phone from her and walked off. Not even a thank you

lol well he eh know how to say thank you in English- though a smile or nod would have been nice

[RedVEVO]

Met a few Chinese recently, they can't really read English or speak it, but somehow got citizenship and driver's license...
Guess, money talks...?

Stood in line behind one yesterday. He came to buy a phone card, couldn’t speak English and handed the cashier the phone, which was completely in Chinese and made hand signals. Cashier figured out he wanted a phone card and asked him bmobile or Digicel. He didn’t know what she was saying and after she tried to explain what she was talking about he says bmobile. She print the phone card and gave it to him. He does the hand signals again and she puts the number on the phone for him and shows him the balance. Man snatch the phone from her and walked off. Not even a thank you

lol well he eh know how to say thank you in English- though a smile or nod would have been nice

That story sounding real bias

Chinese do not act that way .

They are a peaceful people.

[MaxPower]

Leave the chinese out of this...trinis must accept them and learn from them

[88sins]

Leave the chinese out of this...trinis must accept them and learn from them

Some things, yes. Like the value of hard work, loyalty to family & a few other aspects. Trini's could learn a few things from them, true enough.
But plenty of the rest of what they brought here they really needed to leave where they came from.

[Numb3r4]

Regularization of immigrants is a positive approach to a very serious problem Trinidad has - a declining population.
Edited .

Regularly I see employment advertisements in the local news paper asking for 8-15 years experience in a specialized field..... we live in Trinidad..... we do not have a population to support being a specialist without having to charge high prices. The most recent figure I heard (according to a senior doctor) was 500 young doctors at home...... apart from criminal lawyers, there are too many lawyers (according to a senior lawyer)...... people got laid off from Mittal who were "specialist" in what they do but cannot obtain anywhere near their salary since the job market does not require their skill.
I have been told that these advertisements are "designed" to NOT get anyone locally so that the work permit process can go smoothly and there is no good argument for me to believe otherwise.... importing labour does not necessarily build internal capacity.I think we need to protect our own first if we are to see economic prosperity..... as the old saying goes.... charity begins at home!

Could you elaborate on that fact please serious question.

I was thinking of taking up law as a field of study (in some form) next year...but is it worth it? Would it make someone more employable? What are the opportunities?

Could I just open an office or would I need to to do some form of internship? How would you get that internship are there such opportunities?

Open to anyone who is willing to answer.

[teems1]

Jobs losses are cyclical.

We want diversification and a prerequisite is a workforce that is growing.
As it is right now its chicken and egg as to whether the economic growth comes first or the pop growth but we definitely need more working aged ppl. Its up to the public and private sector to create the jobs if they want to achieve sustainable growth.

Job losses were cyclical. Everyone knew the price of oil would eventually rise.

With the advent of electric vehicles and major countries banning petrol or diesel vehicles in the near future, the jobs aren't coming back.

What you'll end up with now is making the already strained social services even worse. Also expect a continued drain on Forex as immigrants send money back home usually in the form of USD.

[88sins]

Regularization of immigrants is a positive approach to a very serious problem Trinidad has - a declining population.
Edited .

Regularly I see employment advertisements in the local news paper asking for 8-15 years experience in a specialized field..... we live in Trinidad..... we do not have a population to support being a specialist without having to charge high prices. The most recent figure I heard (according to a senior doctor) was 500 young doctors at home...... apart from criminal lawyers, there are too many lawyers (according to a senior lawyer)...... people got laid off from Mittal who were "specialist" in what they do but cannot obtain anywhere near their salary since the job market does not require their skill.
I have been told that these advertisements are "designed" to NOT get anyone locally so that the work permit process can go smoothly and there is no good argument for me to believe otherwise.... importing labour does not necessarily build internal capacity.I think we need to protect our own first if we are to see economic prosperity..... as the old saying goes.... charity begins at home!

Could you elaborate on that fact please serious question.

I was thinking of taking up law as a field of study (in some form) next year...but is it worth it? Would it make someone more employable? What are the opportunities?

Could I just open an office or would I need to to do some form of internship? How would you get that internship are there such opportunities?

Open to anyone who is willing to answer.

You'll need to do an internship, and after you're admitted to the bar then you can open your own practice, or join a chambers.
BUT... My advice to you youngster, stay the hell out of law pal, trust this.

It is an overly saturated field, from criminal to corporate to conveyance, & every other facet. It already have WAAAY too many lawyers in T&T, & even with our runaway crime & brisk real estate market & financial sector, civil disputes etc, there is a shortage of clients to the point some attorneys recently admitted to the bar can't even get clients & end up doing other things. Couple that with the fact that most people tend to gravitate to established attorneys with experience. So unless you in chambers with some big name attorney & he throw you a bone form time to time, is real presha to make it on your own in law these days.
Of course, if you do go thru with it you could migrate to another regional country that has a shortage of attorneys & start up a practice there if things don't work out here. But that's up to you & you taking a chance doing that too, remember, you still have limited to no experience.
Go brave junior

[Numb3r4]

Regularization of immigrants is a positive approach to a very serious problem Trinidad has - a declining population.
Edited .

Regularly I see employment advertisements in the local news paper asking for 8-15 years experience in a specialized field..... we live in Trinidad..... we do not have a population to support being a specialist without having to charge high prices. The most recent figure I heard (according to a senior doctor) was 500 young doctors at home...... apart from criminal lawyers, there are too many lawyers (according to a senior lawyer)...... people got laid off from Mittal who were "specialist" in what they do but cannot obtain anywhere near their salary since the job market does not require their skill.
!

Could you elaborate on that fact please serious question.

I was thinking of taking up law as a field of study (in some form) next year...but is it worth it? Would it make someone more employable? What are the opportunities?

Could I just open an office or would I need to to do some form of internship? How would you get that internship are there such opportunities?

Open to anyone who is willing to answer.

You'll need to do an internship, and after you're admitted to the bar then you can open your own practice, or join a chambers.
BUT... My advice to you youngster, stay the hell out of law pal, trust this.

It is an overly saturated field, from criminal to corporate to conveyance, & every other facet. It already have WAAAY too many lawyers in T&T, & even with our runaway crime & brisk real estate market & financial sector, civil disputes etc, there is a shortage of clients to the point some attorneys recently admitted to the bar can't even get clients & end up doing other things. Couple that with the fact that most people tend to gravitate to established attorneys with experience. So unless you in chambers with some big name attorney & he throw you a bone form time to time, is real presha to make it on your own in law these days.
Of course, if you do go thru with it you could migrate to another regional country that has a shortage of attorneys & start up a practice there if things don't work out here. But that's up to you & you taking a chance doing that too, remember, you still have limited to no experience.
Go brave junior

Thanks a lot for the information....will look into it further in the new year...will try asking around some more....

It is something I don't hear too much about...you always hear the quote about the doctors but not about lawyers....you know why? Is it that they just want to suppress the facts?

Still for anyone who has experience feel free to quote and add to the answer.

[vaiostation]

^^^UWi need to hide de truth to keep de Gate dollars flowing!!!

[Numb3r4]

^^^UWi need to hide de truth to keep de Gate dollars flowing!!!

What is the cost of a semester at UWI/Hugh Wooding Law?

Last time I checked UWI was $13,500.00 per semester and Hugh Wooding was I think another $13,050.00 per year.

Feel free to correct.

[RedVEVO]

Regularization of immigrants is a positive approach to a very serious problem Trinidad has - a declining population.
Edited .

Regularly I see employment advertisements in the local news paper asking for 8-15 years experience in a specialized field..... we live in Trinidad..... we do not have a population to support being a specialist without having to charge high prices. The most recent figure I heard (according to a senior doctor) was 500 young doctors at home...... apart from criminal lawyers, there are too many lawyers (according to a senior lawyer)...... people got laid off from Mittal who were "specialist" in what they do but cannot obtain anywhere near their salary since the job market does not require their skill.
!

Could you elaborate on that fact please serious question.

I was thinking of taking up law as a field of study (in some form) next year...but is it worth it? Would it make someone more employable? What are the opportunities?

Could I just open an office or would I need to to do some form of internship? How would you get that internship are there such opportunities?

Open to anyone who is willing to answer.

You'll need to do an internship, and after you're admitted to the bar then you can open your own practice, or join a chambers.
BUT... My advice to you youngster, stay the hell out of law pal, trust this.

It is an overly saturated field, from criminal to corporate to conveyance, & every other facet. It already have WAAAY too many lawyers in T&T, & even with our runaway crime & brisk real estate market & financial sector, civil disputes etc, there is a shortage of clients to the point some attorneys recently admitted to the bar can't even get clients & end up doing other things. Couple that with the fact that most people tend to gravitate to established attorneys with experience. So unless you in chambers with some big name attorney & he throw you a bone form time to time, is real presha to make it on your own in law these days.
Of course, if you do go thru with it you could migrate to another regional country that has a shortage of attorneys & start up a practice there if things don't work out here. But that's up to you & you taking a chance doing that too, remember, you still have limited to no experience.
Go brave junior

Thanks a lot for the information....will look into it further in the new year...will try asking around some more....

It is something I don't hear too much about...you always hear the quote about the doctors but not about lawyers....you know why? Is it that they just want to suppress the facts?

Still for anyone who has experience feel free to quote and add to the answer.

Numero dude go and study Law .
Use Gate finance.

Forget what ole farty pants ole gringo say up there in ganga logic.

Old Lawyers die and need to be replaced . And then die again .

Good Young Lawyers are hired by MANY MANY private companies including Banks, Music Industry , Manufacturing Industries , Oil Industries Software Industry etc. etc.

It is a solid career with lots of potential if you decide to get the f...k out of this Mr Bald Head country ..

Yes Numero you listen to your flow and follow your dream .. and f .. k these ole gringos who overweight hugging
a bottle of puncheon .

If you want further information PM me

[88sins]

Numero dude go and study Law .
Use Gate finance.

Forget what ole farty pants ole gringo say up there in ganga logic.

Old Lawyers die and need to be replaced . And then die again .

Good Young Lawyers are hired by MANY MANY private companies including Banks, Music Industry , Manufacturing Industries , Oil Industries Software Industry etc. etc.

It is a solid career with lots of potential if you decide to get the f...k out of this Mr Bald Head country ..

Yes Numero you listen to your flow and follow your dream .. and f .. k these ole gringos who overweight hugging
a bottle of puncheon .

If you want further information PM me

RedVIRGIN, there are those rare occasions where you put out a post that makes you appear to possess a form of intelligence akin to basic common sense & make you look a little less idiotic.




That last post wasn't one of them.
Carry on.

[Numb3r4]

Okay how 'bout this one liquor license and a rum shop as a business?

[RedVEVO]

Numero dude go and study Law .
Use Gate finance.

Forget what ole farty pants ole gringo say up there in ganga logic.

Old Lawyers die and need to be replaced . And then die again .

Good Young Lawyers are hired by MANY MANY private companies including Banks, Music Industry , Manufacturing Industries , Oil Industries Software Industry etc. etc.

It is a solid career with lots of potential if you decide to get the f...k out of this Mr Bald Head country ..

Yes Numero you listen to your flow and follow your dream .. and f .. k these ole gringos who overweight hugging
a bottle of puncheon .

If you want further information PM me

RedVIRGIN, there are those rare occasions where you put out a post that makes you appear to possess a form of intelligence akin to basic common sense & make you look a little less idiotic.




That last post wasn't one of them.
Carry on.

Hmm ..

Who lit the fuse on your tampon ?

[88sins]

Okay how 'bout this one liquor license and a rum shop as a business?

Alcohol sells, & it could make plenty profits too. But it risky, because it don't take much for a bar to bust. A bad incident, a crooked worker, a few robberies, ppl perception of the establishment changed, etc. I've seen quite a few decent bars in high traffic areas open & close within a year for one reason or another.

It have careers & business ideas you can start working on that you would make it in, but you have to find the one that's the right fit for you that you really enjoy & excel at for you if you want it to endure.
Biomechanical engineering is a nice field of study with room to grow & advance career-wise. Not sure of anywhere locally offering a program in those fields though.