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Redress10 wrote:No
You make your decision based on the information infront of you. Is either you trust the WHO or you don't. Nothing to do with support the "chinee". That sounds unintelligent. If the chinese vaccine provides 80% efficacy then that is 80% more than what you currently have if you are unvaccinated which is 0.
Do you all question the origin of every injection that your doctor administer whenever they have to? Before your doctor give you an injection do you google the manufacturer etc and any side effects it may? Do you even question your doctor?
What about flu shots etc?
timelapse wrote:Rock and a hard place.I don't trust either American or Chinese medical stuff.One has a history of bootleg versions of things and the other has a history of making their citizens drug dependent.
I not antivax, but would prefer if there were some other way, which I know there isn't at this point.I'd quicker trust UK or German products.
timelapse wrote:Rock and a hard place.I don't trust either American or Chinese medical stuff.One has a history of bootleg versions of things and the other has a history of making their citizens drug dependent.
I not antivax, but would prefer if there were some other way, which I know there isn't at this point.I'd quicker trust UK or German products.
Habit7 wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:sMASH wrote:sam1978 wrote:The question should be, what is wrong with the sinopharm vaccine. Is it defective ( less effective) or did it get a bad rap by uninformed people which spread by gossip-and why did WHO approve it for use( emergency or otherwise) .
The reputations of the other companies are sketchy too if we want to nitpick.
What is left to be seen is whether the ones who are making noise now , are going to accept the sinopharm.
'made in china' or 'made in america'... which would u trust to be worthwhile?
gutter oil vaccine.
Many people don't understand the level of deceit practiced by the Chinese. They lie, bribe, manipulate data and oppress their own people. You CANNOT trust anything they state or claim.
Right now SinoPharm has a real-life efficacy of 50% in Seychelles.
Also, WHO is in China's pocket, they had to approve it eventually once proven safe. That's the good part, it will be safe. Effective? Not so much.
Will it save your life though? Yes, so take it still! This is not an anti-vax post.
You are speaking out of two sides of your mouth. If you are saying take Sinopharm, stop giving reasons not to take Sinopharm.
China is horrible, we know. They way they do things is immoral. But this is science. The vaccine has gone through the phases of trial, it has been peer reviewed, and independently approved. It was used by 65 million ppl, yet you are using the inconclusive info in country with 97K ppl to determine its efficacy. Where less than 60% of the vaccinated took Sinopharm and very few are hospitalised. That is bad science.
You are like the UNC, Dr Moonilal already poison the well but now the real UNC medical doctors bringing up the rear saying "take it, it's better than nothing. "
The US used African American Tuskegees to secretly test untreated Syphilis on them. Even recently they used a vaccine program in Pakistan to get Bin Laden, forever tainting vaccination for those ppl. Nobody is innocent, neither US or China.
The efficacy of the vaccine is known from randomised double blind studies, not from a journalist looking for a story.
sMASH wrote:they really try to push the narrative that bigger countries booting us out. then barbadoes and guyanna got...
all because they galleying to get the chinese vaccine.
sMASH wrote:^^ how barbados and guyana got vaccines in before us? how come they were so ahead that they were able to donate a portion to us, while avery brown was still talking?
SuperiorMan wrote:timelapse wrote:Rock and a hard place.I don't trust either American or Chinese medical stuff.One has a history of bootleg versions of things and the other has a history of making their citizens drug dependent.
I not antivax, but would prefer if there were some other way, which I know there isn't at this point.I'd quicker trust UK or German products.
My girlfriend trusts America most because they are white.
Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:^^ how barbados and guyana got vaccines in before us? how come they were so ahead that they were able to donate a portion to us, while avery brown was still talking?
All through the benevolence of India.
Barbados with 250K ppl got 100K vaccines from India
Guyana with 750K ppl got 80K
While Jamaica with 2.7M ppl got 80K
and T&T with 1.4M ppl got 40K
I don't know if you think we should slap up India and demand for more because we are larger. But right now, India probably wished they never gave any to us but their own ppl because they are struggling more than anybody in the Caribbean.
sMASH wrote:Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:^^ how barbados and guyana got vaccines in before us? how come they were so ahead that they were able to donate a portion to us, while avery brown was still talking?
All through the benevolence of India.
Barbados with 250K ppl got 100K vaccines from India
Guyana with 750K ppl got 80K
While Jamaica with 2.7M ppl got 80K
and T&T with 1.4M ppl got 40K
I don't know if you think we should slap up India and demand for more because we are larger. But right now, India probably wished they never gave any to us but their own ppl because they are struggling more than anybody in the Caribbean.
no need for violence. could have simply signed a purchase order sooner... like what barbados and guyana did.
sMASH wrote:^^ how barbados and guyana got vaccines in before us? how come they were so ahead that they were able to donate a portion to us, while avery brown was still talking?
timelapse wrote:Great for you buddy.SuperiorMan wrote:timelapse wrote:Rock and a hard place.I don't trust either American or Chinese medical stuff.One has a history of bootleg versions of things and the other has a history of making their citizens drug dependent.
I not antivax, but would prefer if there were some other way, which I know there isn't at this point.I'd quicker trust UK or German products.
My girlfriend trusts America most because they are white.
Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:^^ how barbados and guyana got vaccines in before us? how come they were so ahead that they were able to donate a portion to us, while avery brown was still talking?
All through the benevolence of India.
Barbados with 250K ppl got 100K vaccines from India
Guyana with 750K ppl got 80K
While Jamaica with 2.7M ppl got 80K
and T&T with 1.4M ppl got 40K
I don't know if you think we should slap up India and demand for more because we are larger. But right now, India probably wished they never gave any to us but their own ppl because they are struggling more than anybody in the Caribbean.
no need for violence. could have simply signed a purchase order sooner... like what barbados and guyana did.
Barbados has not purchased any vaccines, I tired tell you. They got a donation, a larger donation than us.
De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:^^ how barbados and guyana got vaccines in before us? how come they were so ahead that they were able to donate a portion to us, while avery brown was still talking?
All through the benevolence of India.
Barbados with 250K ppl got 100K vaccines from India
Guyana with 750K ppl got 80K
While Jamaica with 2.7M ppl got 80K
and T&T with 1.4M ppl got 40K
I don't know if you think we should slap up India and demand for more because we are larger. But right now, India probably wished they never gave any to us but their own ppl because they are struggling more than anybody in the Caribbean.
no need for violence. could have simply signed a purchase order sooner... like what barbados and guyana did.
Barbados has not purchased any vaccines, I tired tell you. They got a donation, a larger donation than us.
Of course, because ours was a "redonation" from theirs, then Jackarse JUHN Scarfy got into that unwarranted, ridiculous and undiplomatic spat with India's HC, who all but called him a liar to his face. How many vaccines did you expect to get after that Dotishee?
sMASH wrote:the donation was gifted, cause they signed the purchase order, with the actual order to ensue. u know, like an appetizer.
check back the statement of facts released from the indian hi commission and us, that u self cited... well u cited the news paper article, that had excerpts. just a few pages back, where we were getting the chronology of the avery brown thing in order.
Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:the donation was gifted, cause they signed the purchase order, with the actual order to ensue. u know, like an appetizer.
check back the statement of facts released from the indian hi commission and us, that u self cited... well u cited the news paper article, that had excerpts. just a few pages back, where we were getting the chronology of the avery brown thing in order.
You are talking absolute garbage. SII was not taking any orders and is currently struggling to fulfil orders. I don't know what purchase order you taking about.
Barbados alot smarter that TT.Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:^^ how barbados and guyana got vaccines in before us? how come they were so ahead that they were able to donate a portion to us, while avery brown was still talking?
All through the benevolence of India.
Barbados with 250K ppl got 100K vaccines from India
Guyana with 750K ppl got 80K
While Jamaica with 2.7M ppl got 80K
and T&T with 1.4M ppl got 40K
I don't know if you think we should slap up India and demand for more because we are larger. But right now, India probably wished they never gave any to us but their own ppl because they are struggling more than anybody in the Caribbean.
no need for violence. could have simply signed a purchase order sooner... like what barbados and guyana did.
Barbados has not purchased any vaccines, I tired tell you. They got a donation, a larger donation than us.
Wraith King wrote:Habit7 you taking rel licks on different topics.
Fake news is not evidenceelec2020 wrote:Wraith King wrote:Habit7 you taking rel licks on different topics.
i disagree. Habit7 using articles and logic to back his claims while the rest using insults and emotion. Imo, in a debate, logic and evidence always beats unsubstantiated opinions.
elec2020 wrote:Wraith King wrote:Habit7 you taking rel licks on different topics.
i disagree. Habit7 using articles and logic to back his claims while the rest using insults and emotion. Imo, in a debate, logic and evidence always beats unsubstantiated opinions.
Kickstart wrote:Barbados alot smarter that TT.
Barbados vaccines for free.
Here in TT the Chinese forced a load apon us to take their Vaccines. PNM proud of this whilst China continues to be our new slave masters. How dumb can PNM continue to be.
Mottley told journalists at an Ilaro Court news conference that after having recent talks with President Xi Jinping on the subject of vaccine procurement, the Chinese leader agreed to donate a batch of vaccines and make available more batches for purchase.
https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/04/01/bar ... m-mottley/
elec2020 wrote:Wraith King wrote:Habit7 you taking rel licks on different topics.
i disagree. Habit7 using articles and logic to back his claims while the rest using insults and emotion. Imo, in a debate, logic and evidence always beats unsubstantiated opinions.
Habit7 wrote:Kickstart wrote:Barbados alot smarter that TT.
Barbados vaccines for free.
Here in TT the Chinese forced a load apon us to take their Vaccines. PNM proud of this whilst China continues to be our new slave masters. How dumb can PNM continue to be.
This Bimshire?Mottley told journalists at an Ilaro Court news conference that after having recent talks with President Xi Jinping on the subject of vaccine procurement, the Chinese leader agreed to donate a batch of vaccines and make available more batches for purchase.
https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/04/01/bar ... m-mottley/elec2020 wrote:Wraith King wrote:Habit7 you taking rel licks on different topics.
i disagree. Habit7 using articles and logic to back his claims while the rest using insults and emotion. Imo, in a debate, logic and evidence always beats unsubstantiated opinions.
Leave them. They are like 1000 Mr Smiths, multiple accounts, parroting each other but they all receiving the same kick up.
Kickstart wrote:Fake news is not evidenceelec2020 wrote:Wraith King wrote:Habit7 you taking rel licks on different topics.
i disagree. Habit7 using articles and logic to back his claims while the rest using insults and emotion. Imo, in a debate, logic and evidence always beats unsubstantiated opinions.
Wraith King wrote:elec2020 wrote:Wraith King wrote:Habit7 you taking rel licks on different topics.
i disagree. Habit7 using articles and logic to back his claims while the rest using insults and emotion. Imo, in a debate, logic and evidence always beats unsubstantiated opinions.
WDA I really seeing here bhai??!!
Habit7 allergic to logic and truth.
elec2020 wrote:Kickstart wrote:Fake news is not evidenceelec2020 wrote:Wraith King wrote:Habit7 you taking rel licks on different topics.
i disagree. Habit7 using articles and logic to back his claims while the rest using insults and emotion. Imo, in a debate, logic and evidence always beats unsubstantiated opinions.
u back to using your 2nd account ZR?
CB Style wrote:Wraith King wrote:elec2020 wrote:Wraith King wrote:Habit7 you taking rel licks on different topics.
i disagree. Habit7 using articles and logic to back his claims while the rest using insults and emotion. Imo, in a debate, logic and evidence always beats unsubstantiated opinions.
WDA I really seeing here bhai??!!
Habit7 allergic to logic and truth.
Hear the next fool. Habit using logic and articles? Is a different kinda dotish allyuh sheeple is boi?
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