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So do I.But not in the way it is currently structured to be done .The government is attempting to punish people for trying to increase their standard of living.There is already stamp duty,vat,etc.Standard land tax should be fine.j.o.e wrote:I believe some kind of tax should be paid. Even if it’s a rehashed land and building tax which we haven’t paid in forever. However the tax revenue should stay within a reformed local govt system. Then it’s up to the people to hold local govt responsible
This is what the PNM is after, the people that own massive lands and buildings. When lands was cheap and what no one else wanted certain people saw the value while other saw fetes.timelapse wrote:So do I.But not in the way it is currently structured to be done .The government is attempting to punish people for trying to increase their standard of living.There is already stamp duty,vat,etc.Standard land tax should be fine.j.o.e wrote:I believe some kind of tax should be paid. Even if it’s a rehashed land and building tax which we haven’t paid in forever. However the tax revenue should stay within a reformed local govt system. Then it’s up to the people to hold local govt responsible
Then there's the other part where shortman and company exempted themselves from property taxes while increasing it for the rest of us.
timelapse wrote:So do I.But not in the way it is currently structured to be done .The government is attempting to punish people for trying to increase their standard of living.There is already stamp duty,vat,etc.Standard land tax should be fine.j.o.e wrote:I believe some kind of tax should be paid. Even if it’s a rehashed land and building tax which we haven’t paid in forever. However the tax revenue should stay within a reformed local govt system. Then it’s up to the people to hold local govt responsible
Then there's the other part where shortman and company exempted themselves from property taxes while increasing it for the rest of us.
88sins wrote:Ok a scenario for you all.
3 weeks ago someone came to the area asking for me, and my neighbors called me and asked if they could give them my number. I said ok, and that was that. Later on, I found out, my blasted wife fill out the mudda ass valuation form and send it in. That didn't go over well for her. But I go finish sort that out momentarily. That f-ckup gonna cost her. But I digress.
Anywhoo...
ffw to tonight, I got a call from a cell number Idk, from someone claiming to be from the CSO, asking me if I could make myself available at home tomorrow for them to come to conduct a survey (red flag #1), to which I replied no.
I then asked, who is conducting this survey and what it's about, and who would be using the data collected, and how was my household selected. To which she replied "the CSO & UNICEF conducting the survey, and that it's a survey about women and children and family life" (red flag #2, not saying how we were selected or who will be accessing the data)
She then asked if she could conduct their survey over the phone, to which I agreed.
So I say ok, ask your questions, and she starts off innocuously enough with:
How many ppl living in the home
My name and wife's name
Ages
DoB
Our respective education levels
Where we were born and our nationalities
Our ethnicities
All of these questions I answered politely.
So here's where it went sideways and upside down in a hurry.
She proceeded to ask the following, but before she does she says that she supposed to physically view these things for her "survey", but she will ask over the phone for now. So she asks:
Type of house
How many floors
How many rooms
How many rooms are used for sleeping
If it have ac, pipe borne water supply, water storage, water pump, heater,
Is there a landlines phone
What on the floor (tile, vinyl, concrete)
Type of windows and if they are burglar proofed
Roof material and condition
Type of ceiling
(Red flag fete, only red flag everywhere)
None of these questions I answered, and I told her flat out, I believe that you are calling in regards to the property tax and that you lied and misrepresented you purpose for contacting me. So she say if I don't want to answer because I don't believe her regarding what offices she claims to be conducting a survey for, or the purpose of said survey, that's fine and that I can speak to her supervisor, and would l like their name and contact, to which I replied no, and she asked if the supervisor could call me, to which I replied ok. I then bid her a good night and hung up.
So, idk if you noticed, but not a single question relevant to women and children and family life was asked. So, if you don't understand what I saying, lemme break it all the way down for you.
These rat-fuggers under the command of the primary rat sodomizer your dishonorable sinister minister of fine ants mr. Clown inbutt have now resorted to telling their lackeys to literally lie to you to get confirmation of information from you regarding the valuation form you submitted. All because they know that nobody will talk to them on the phone to confirm the information, and that they CANNOT enter your premises to confirm it without your express permission. Stinkin mc and dem. That is what allyuh vote for when you chose these rat bastards. Liars, crooks, thieves and conmen.
Be aware people, be very aware.
88sins wrote:Ok a scenario for you all.
3 weeks ago someone came to the area asking for me, and my neighbors called me and asked if they could give them my number. I said ok, and that was that. Later on, I found out, my blasted wife fill out the mudda ass valuation form and send it in. That didn't go over well for her. But I go finish sort that out momentarily. That f-ckup gonna cost her. But I digress.
Anywhoo...
ffw to tonight, I got a call from a cell number Idk, from someone claiming to be from the CSO, asking me if I could make myself available at home tomorrow for them to come to conduct a survey (red flag #1), to which I replied no.
I then asked, who is conducting this survey and what it's about, and who would be using the data collected, and how was my household selected. To which she replied "the CSO & UNICEF conducting the survey, and that it's a survey about women and children and family life" (red flag #2, not saying how we were selected or who will be accessing the data)
She then asked if she could conduct their survey over the phone, to which I agreed.
So I say ok, ask your questions, and she starts off innocuously enough with:
How many ppl living in the home
My name and wife's name
Ages
DoB
Our respective education levels
Where we were born and our nationalities
Our ethnicities
All of these questions I answered politely.
So here's where it went sideways and upside down in a hurry.
She proceeded to ask the following, but before she does she says that she supposed to physically view these things for her "survey", but she will ask over the phone for now. So she asks:
Type of house
How many floors
How many rooms
How many rooms are used for sleeping
If it have ac, pipe borne water supply, water storage, water pump, heater,
Is there a landlines phone
What on the floor (tile, vinyl, concrete)
Type of windows and if they are burglar proofed
Roof material and condition
Type of ceiling
(Red flag fete, only red flag everywhere)
None of these questions I answered, and I told her flat out, I believe that you are calling in regards to the property tax and that you lied and misrepresented you purpose for contacting me. So she say if I don't want to answer because I don't believe her regarding what offices she claims to be conducting a survey for, or the purpose of said survey, that's fine and that I can speak to her supervisor, and would l like their name and contact, to which I replied no, and she asked if the supervisor could call me, to which I replied ok. I then bid her a good night and hung up.
So, idk if you noticed, but not a single question relevant to women and children and family life was asked. So, if you don't understand what I saying, lemme break it all the way down for you.
These rat-fuggers under the command of the primary rat sodomizer your dishonorable sinister minister of fine ants mr. Clown inbutt have now resorted to telling their lackeys to literally lie to you to get confirmation of information from you regarding the valuation form you submitted. All because they know that nobody will talk to them on the phone to confirm the information, and that they CANNOT enter your premises to confirm it without your express permission. Stinkin mc and dem. That is what allyuh vote for when you chose these rat bastards. Liars, crooks, thieves and conmen.
Be aware people, be very aware.
First time I hearing of something like this. But would a disgruntled public servant go the extra mile to call at night for something like property tax? It would seem to be a fact finding mission for some nefarious purpose. Be careful out there and remember not everything has to be politicized.VexXx Dogg wrote:88sins wrote:Ok a scenario for you all.
3 weeks ago someone came to the area asking for me, and my neighbors called me and asked if they could give them my number. I said ok, and that was that. Later on, I found out, my blasted wife fill out the mudda ass valuation form and send it in. That didn't go over well for her. But I go finish sort that out momentarily. That f-ckup gonna cost her. But I digress.
Anywhoo...
ffw to tonight, I got a call from a cell number Idk, from someone claiming to be from the CSO, asking me if I could make myself available at home tomorrow for them to come to conduct a survey (red flag #1), to which I replied no.
I then asked, who is conducting this survey and what it's about, and who would be using the data collected, and how was my household selected. To which she replied "the CSO & UNICEF conducting the survey, and that it's a survey about women and children and family life" (red flag #2, not saying how we were selected or who will be accessing the data)
She then asked if she could conduct their survey over the phone, to which I agreed.
So I say ok, ask your questions, and she starts off innocuously enough with:
How many ppl living in the home
My name and wife's name
Ages
DoB
Our respective education levels
Where we were born and our nationalities
Our ethnicities
All of these questions I answered politely.
So here's where it went sideways and upside down in a hurry.
She proceeded to ask the following, but before she does she says that she supposed to physically view these things for her "survey", but she will ask over the phone for now. So she asks:
Type of house
How many floors
How many rooms
How many rooms are used for sleeping
If it have ac, pipe borne water supply, water storage, water pump, heater,
Is there a landlines phone
What on the floor (tile, vinyl, concrete)
Type of windows and if they are burglar proofed
Roof material and condition
Type of ceiling
(Red flag fete, only red flag everywhere)
None of these questions I answered, and I told her flat out, I believe that you are calling in regards to the property tax and that you lied and misrepresented you purpose for contacting me. So she say if I don't want to answer because I don't believe her regarding what offices she claims to be conducting a survey for, or the purpose of said survey, that's fine and that I can speak to her supervisor, and would l like their name and contact, to which I replied no, and she asked if the supervisor could call me, to which I replied ok. I then bid her a good night and hung up.
So, idk if you noticed, but not a single question relevant to women and children and family life was asked. So, if you don't understand what I saying, lemme break it all the way down for you.
These rat-fuggers under the command of the primary rat sodomizer your dishonorable sinister minister of fine ants mr. Clown inbutt have now resorted to telling their lackeys to literally lie to you to get confirmation of information from you regarding the valuation form you submitted. All because they know that nobody will talk to them on the phone to confirm the information, and that they CANNOT enter your premises to confirm it without your express permission. Stinkin mc and dem. That is what allyuh vote for when you chose these rat bastards. Liars, crooks, thieves and conmen.
Be aware people, be very aware.
very suspect
DMan7 wrote:Why would you answer an unknown number in the night though?
Kenjo wrote:I’m confused as to how many random spam numbers people get called from in trinidad with the number of regular people who are too important to answer unknown numbers . Is it courts or standards you all owing money so ?
So here's where it went sideways and upside down in a hurry.
She proceeded to ask the following, but before she does she says that she supposed to physically view these things for her "survey", but she will ask over the phone for now. So she asks:
Type of house
How many floors
How many rooms
How many rooms are used for sleeping
If it have ac, pipe borne water supply, water storage, water pump, heater,
Is there a landlines phone
What on the floor (tile, vinyl, concrete)
Type of windows and if they are burglar proofed
Roof material and condition
Type of ceiling
You aren't being paranoid.PNM wants to seize your property, so this is the inventoryPhone Surgeon wrote:all this sounding like questions a bandit would like to know eh. legit survey or not, them questions real suspeckSo here's where it went sideways and upside down in a hurry.
She proceeded to ask the following, but before she does she says that she supposed to physically view these things for her "survey", but she will ask over the phone for now. So she asks:
Type of house
How many floors
How many rooms
How many rooms are used for sleeping
If it have ac, pipe borne water supply, water storage, water pump, heater,
Is there a landlines phone
What on the floor (tile, vinyl, concrete)
Type of windows and if they are burglar proofed
Roof material and condition
Type of ceiling
how many rooms used for sleeping.......(so they know how much rooms to look for persons quickly )
landline phone (if they use a cellphone jammer)
type of windows and if burglar proof...wha kinda freaking question that is
roof material and condition.......
type of ceiling......
cud jus be my usual paranoia talking
maj. tom wrote:You can decline to participate in the data collection.
They came by me this morning and said my house was chosen. It was official, both of them had the CSO badge and were very polite. But I said nah and bye. The end.
That is how data is collected to index quality of life and various other global statistics that concern the UN. The stat experts with much more education and experience than any of us here would design questions to get real data, compared to just income and thinking that's a real survey on quality of life.
But you can just decline participation. They'll find somebody else.
maj. tom wrote:You can decline to participate in the data collection.
They came by me this morning and said my house was chosen. It was official, both of them had the CSO badge and were very polite. But I said nah and bye. The end.
That is how data is collected to index quality of life and various other global statistics that concern the UN. The stat experts with much more education and experience than any of us here would design questions to get real data, compared to just income and thinking that's a real survey on quality of life.
But you can just decline participation. They'll find somebody else.
88sins wrote:All fine and dandy. But all I go say is this.
The CSO is a state owned and operated database and data collection organization.
The BIR/IRD is also a state owned and operated database and data collection agency, and also a revenue collection agency.
And I'm inclined to believe that once one state operates agency has acquired information from you, that ALL state agencies have access to that information, particularly if you don't have an option to insist and ensure that no other agency have access to any of the information you gave.
So, as far as I concerned, to hell with them and their "survey" with questions that way similar or even identical to the property valuation form questions.
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