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Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby scotty_buttons » July 18th, 2016, 8:15 pm

So...
Apparently police called my parents HOME number and told my mom today that they caught her on CCTV driving down a one way street..
and well, she got charged.
Details still unclear as to how exactly she got 'charged.'

Since when they start using CCTV to charge ppl!??
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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby Strugglerzinc » July 18th, 2016, 8:49 pm

Sounds fishy. Did they deliver the ticket? RS may be able to say if this legit.

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby scotty_buttons » July 18th, 2016, 8:51 pm

^ It is. Mom admitted she did commit the offense on the said date though.
They gonna go to the courthouse to see if there really is a summons for her and to find out more tomorrow.

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby DVSTT » July 18th, 2016, 8:52 pm

That sound like a scam.

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby JaiTech » July 18th, 2016, 9:15 pm

Actually heard a few people got charged like this

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Postby buckredan » July 18th, 2016, 9:26 pm

Update on this please know it was coming ending of the year didn't know it started. Probaly testing the system

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Postby scotty_buttons » July 18th, 2016, 9:28 pm

Yeah. But shouldn't they let the public know this is going to implemented and when?

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Postby 9YDMS » July 18th, 2016, 9:35 pm

buckredan wrote:Update on this please know it was coming ending of the year didn't know it started. Probaly testing the system

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Postby skylinechild » July 18th, 2016, 9:55 pm

interesting.... *subscribes....

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Postby Morpheus » July 18th, 2016, 10:18 pm

scotty_buttons wrote:Yeah. But shouldn't they let the public know this is going to implemented and when?

But why though? Shouldn't we be obeying the law all along?

We get upset when police broadcast too many details on their intended next move. "They alerting the bandits so they could hide their weapons/narcotics!"

I guess it is a norm to announce those strategies for "minor infractions" though......
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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby Dave » July 18th, 2016, 10:18 pm

What about Wrightson rd camera for breaking light and also the speed camera by El Socorro?

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby pugboy » July 18th, 2016, 10:26 pm

Calling somebody to say they charged will never stand up in court just so.

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby j.o.e » July 18th, 2016, 11:14 pm

How /where did they get her number ?

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Postby Morpheus » July 18th, 2016, 11:27 pm

j.o.e wrote:How /where did they get her number ?

This is what interests me as well

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby GixxerMan » July 18th, 2016, 11:35 pm

pugboy wrote:Calling somebody to say they charged will never stand up in court just so.


also there are no laws

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby rollingstock » July 19th, 2016, 1:21 am

GixxerMan wrote:
pugboy wrote:Calling somebody to say they charged will never stand up in court just so.


also there are no laws


Please tell us more. I'm intrigued.

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Postby 2NR Smurf » July 19th, 2016, 4:43 am

I guess it coming sooner or later. Nobody else notice these white street cameras literally everywhere now?

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby pugboy » July 19th, 2016, 6:25 am

unless laws have changed, lets not be ignorant of simple procedures

the law of a summons is it is a piece of paper stating the charge and the person serving it must make sure it physically touches the person whom it should be served on
they don't have to hand it to them just be in front of them, touch them with it and mumble something
can drop it on the ground after, but once contact made it is considered served.

there are no laws saying once you got contacted by phone you are hereby served with the summons to answer a charge in court.
How does the court/law/police know that who answered the phone is the correct person ?
So lets not be stupid.

Who did they charge by checking the camera footage ?
The only person they could officially trace would be the owner of the car based on the plate,

Unless there is a database of pictures of all drivers and they have a computer program to do face identification
like facebook/google, but surely there are no laws on this or using some third party computer to do this reliably and standup in court to say Mr X was driving the car based on our national ID picture database, lol
Afaik no such program exists which would standup in court.

Can the owner of a car be charged if someone else driving the car broke a traffic law with the said car ?
Suppose it is a company owned car ?
These are basic questions to ask first before saying cctv could charge people.

If any laws to enforce by cctv were changed there would have been massive media coverage similar to the laser gun introduction

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby TurboSingh12 » July 19th, 2016, 6:50 am

Tell them wrong number.Talk done!

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Postby Team Loco » July 19th, 2016, 6:52 am

Morpheus wrote:
j.o.e wrote:How /where did they get her number ?

This is what interests me as well

Its on their database. When vehicles is registered/transferred

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Postby JF.K » July 19th, 2016, 7:52 am

Team Loco wrote:
Morpheus wrote:
j.o.e wrote:How /where did they get her number ?

This is what interests me as well

Its on their database. When vehicles is registered/transferred

LOL @ "database"

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Postby nervewrecker » July 19th, 2016, 10:45 am

JF.K wrote:
Team Loco wrote:
Morpheus wrote:
j.o.e wrote:How /where did they get her number ?

This is what interests me as well

Its on their database. When vehicles is registered/transferred

LOL @ "database"


What you lol at?

They been collecting info awhile now. What you think all those routine road blocks about and what you think happens to the info they scribble down from your documents? I think traffic wardens collect as well.

Had small favors done where plates and driver info were pulled from the database already.

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby Team Loco » July 19th, 2016, 10:45 am

Exactly

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby Chimera » July 19th, 2016, 11:15 am

pressure

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby rollingstock » July 19th, 2016, 11:30 am

pugboy wrote:unless laws have changed, lets not be ignorant of simple procedures

the law of a summons is it is a piece of paper stating the charge and the person serving it must make sure it physically touches the person whom it should be served on
they don't have to hand it to them just be in front of them, touch them with it and mumble something
can drop it on the ground after, but once contact made it is considered served.

there are no laws saying once you got contacted by phone you are hereby served with the summons to answer a charge in court.
How does the court/law/police know that who answered the phone is the correct person ?
So lets not be stupid.

Who did they charge by checking the camera footage ?
The only person they could officially trace would be the owner of the car based on the plate,

Unless there is a database of pictures of all drivers and they have a computer program to do face identification
like facebook/google, but surely there are no laws on this or using some third party computer to do this reliably and standup in court to say Mr X was driving the car based on our national ID picture database, lol
Afaik no such program exists which would standup in court.

Can the owner of a car be charged if someone else driving the car broke a traffic law with the said car ?
Suppose it is a company owned car ?
These are basic questions to ask first before saying cctv could charge people.

If any laws to enforce by cctv were changed there would have been massive media coverage similar to the laser gun introduction


You make some sense but also posted some nonsense there.

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Postby JF.K » July 19th, 2016, 11:49 am

nervewrecker wrote:
JF.K wrote:
Team Loco wrote:
Morpheus wrote:
j.o.e wrote:How /where did they get her number ?

This is what interests me as well

Its on their database. When vehicles is registered/transferred

LOL @ "database"


What you lol at?

They been collecting info awhile now. What you think all those routine road blocks about and what you think happens to the info they scribble down from your documents? I think traffic wardens collect as well.

Had small favors done where plates and driver info were pulled from the database already.

If it not starting at license office then it's LOL

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby acesinghit » July 19th, 2016, 11:53 am

good grief. I am guilty of doing a lot of sheit on the roads over the years. I gotta buck up.

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby X-Axis » July 19th, 2016, 12:07 pm

I would steups and hang up

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby infinite_RPM » July 19th, 2016, 2:55 pm

I feel is bs.. Somebody probably get fed up/annoyed of OP mom driving down the one way which I assume is near her home, called her and told her this crap to scare her..

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Re: Police using CCTV to charge ppl now??

Postby biggs50 » July 20th, 2016, 8:28 am

This is very good news. It means that the cameras are in use and much good can come out it.

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