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wing wrote:Most Japanese displays can be converted once there is a UK or Australian version of the vehicle. A simple flash will do.agent007 wrote:Was just doing some light research and I did some quick mathematical conversions. In Hong Kong, residents there pay the equivalent of $20. TTD per litre of petrol. Many European countries aren't far behind either.
If things reach that bad here in TT then I won't care about those Japanese displays I can't convert to English, I'll be getting myself a used 2019/2020 Leaf.
What would be the local cost if you have to charge it every day? The 150mile range is plenty enough for me but how would the ttec bill look?agent007 wrote:Was just doing some light research and I did some quick mathematical conversions. In Hong Kong, residents there pay the equivalent of $20. TTD per litre of petrol. Many European countries aren't far behind either.
If things reach that bad here in TT then I won't care about those Japanese displays I can't convert to English, I'll be getting myself a used 2019/2020 Leaf.
viedcht wrote:What would be the local cost if you have to charge it every day? The 150mile range is plenty enough for me but how would the ttec bill look?agent007 wrote:Was just doing some light research and I did some quick mathematical conversions. In Hong Kong, residents there pay the equivalent of $20. TTD per litre of petrol. Many European countries aren't far behind either.
If things reach that bad here in TT then I won't care about those Japanese displays I can't convert to English, I'll be getting myself a used 2019/2020 Leaf.
gastly369 wrote:International prices...
We getting "international fuels"?
"International roads"?
The Leaf has a 40kWh battery with a theoretical range of 238kkms. Assuming it's completely discharged, would be 40 x $0.32 = $12.80 per full charge. If you live in SF and work in POS, you can accumulate on average 2500kms per month.viedcht wrote:What would be the local cost if you have to charge it every day? The 150mile range is plenty enough for me but how would the ttec bill look?agent007 wrote:Was just doing some light research and I did some quick mathematical conversions. In Hong Kong, residents there pay the equivalent of $20. TTD per litre of petrol. Many European countries aren't far behind either.
If things reach that bad here in TT then I won't care about those Japanese displays I can't convert to English, I'll be getting myself a used 2019/2020 Leaf.
agent007 wrote:The Leaf has a 40kWh battery with a theoretical range of 238kkms. Assuming it's completely discharged, would be 40 x $0.32 = $12.80 per full charge. If you live in SF and work in POS, you can accumulate on average 2500kms per month.viedcht wrote:What would be the local cost if you have to charge it every day? The 150mile range is plenty enough for me but how would the ttec bill look?agent007 wrote:Was just doing some light research and I did some quick mathematical conversions. In Hong Kong, residents there pay the equivalent of $20. TTD per litre of petrol. Many European countries aren't far behind either.
If things reach that bad here in TT then I won't care about those Japanese displays I can't convert to English, I'll be getting myself a used 2019/2020 Leaf.
2500 ÷ 238km battery range = 11 approx. charges per month.
11 x $12.80 = $140.80 added to your electricity bill.
Compare that to a petrol vehicle doing the same 2500kms per month with a tank range of 500kms. This equates to 5 fill-ups per month at $350. per fill-up.
Gas bill per month would be $1,750.
Going Leaf would automatically save a South person who works POS ($1750 - $140.80) = $1,609.20 a month.
If you install a separate solar charging facility for your Leaf (which is what I intend to do), your electricity bill remains as-is (all things being equal).
Your investment in the Leaf is $230k including a full detail, mats, tint, nice raised metal plates, an air refresher and full comprehensive insurance. The solar addition to your home can start at $30k.
$230k + $30k = $260k is your total initial investment.
$260k ÷ $1750 = 12.4 years. This means it would take almost 13 years for this investment to pay for itself (for someone who starting from scratch).
If you're selling an existing vehicle to purchase a Leaf, then this figure reduces.
Nissan gives the Leaf a warranty of 5 yrs/100k km on the vehicle and 8yrs/160k km on the battery for tropical countries like Thailand.pugboy wrote:lithium effective lifespan is really around 5years and how much use, eg full discharge/recharge cycles
Numb3r4 wrote:^^^ With that fact mentioned above that would mean that even a 3 yr old RORO electric vehicle (or Hybrid) already has a substantial portion of its lifespan over by the time it is purchased.
Or am I missing something?
How cost effective is that with respect to just buying a new vehicle?
Okay yes your figures are real world, I made very generous overestimates (.45¢perkw × 65kw capacity × 35charges per month) to get to my outrageous $1k. additional on electric bill. Hopefully when ttec shaft we it wouldn't be so high.agent007 wrote:The Leaf has a 40kWh battery with a theoretical range of 238kkms. Assuming it's completely discharged, would be 40 x $0.32 = $12.80 per full charge. If you live in SF and work in POS, you can accumulate on average 2500kms per month.viedcht wrote:What would be the local cost if you have to charge it every day? The 150mile range is plenty enough for me but how would the ttec bill look?agent007 wrote:Was just doing some light research and I did some quick mathematical conversions. In Hong Kong, residents there pay the equivalent of $20. TTD per litre of petrol. Many European countries aren't far behind either.
If things reach that bad here in TT then I won't care about those Japanese displays I can't convert to English, I'll be getting myself a used 2019/2020 Leaf.
2500 ÷ 238km battery range = 11 approx. charges per month.
11 x $12.80 = $140.80 added to your electricity bill.
Compare that to a petrol vehicle doing the same 2500kms per month with a tank range of 500kms. This equates to 5 fill-ups per month at $350. per fill-up.
Gas bill per month would be $1,750.
Going Leaf would automatically save a South person who works POS ($1750 - $140.80) = $1,609.20 a month.
If you install a separate solar charging facility for your Leaf (which is what I intend to do), your electricity bill remains as-is (all things being equal).
Your investment in the Leaf is $230k including a full detail, mats, tint, nice raised metal plates, an air refresher and full comprehensive insurance. The solar addition to your home can start at $30k.
$230k + $30k = $260k is your total initial investment.
$260k ÷ $1750 = 12.4 years. This means it would take almost 13 years for this investment to pay for itself (for someone who starting from scratch).
If you're selling an existing vehicle to purchase a Leaf, then this figure reduces.
viedcht wrote:Okay yes your figures are real world, I made very generous overestimates (.45¢perkw × 65kw capacity × 35charges per month) to get to my outrageous $1k. additional on electric bill. Hopefully when ttec shaft we it wouldn't be so high.agent007 wrote:The Leaf has a 40kWh battery with a theoretical range of 238kkms. Assuming it's completely discharged, would be 40 x $0.32 = $12.80 per full charge. If you live in SF and work in POS, you can accumulate on average 2500kms per month.viedcht wrote:What would be the local cost if you have to charge it every day? The 150mile range is plenty enough for me but how would the ttec bill look?agent007 wrote:Was just doing some light research and I did some quick mathematical conversions. In Hong Kong, residents there pay the equivalent of $20. TTD per litre of petrol. Many European countries aren't far behind either.
If things reach that bad here in TT then I won't care about those Japanese displays I can't convert to English, I'll be getting myself a used 2019/2020 Leaf.
2500 ÷ 238km battery range = 11 approx. charges per month.
11 x $12.80 = $140.80 added to your electricity bill.
Compare that to a petrol vehicle doing the same 2500kms per month with a tank range of 500kms. This equates to 5 fill-ups per month at $350. per fill-up.
Gas bill per month would be $1,750.
Going Leaf would automatically save a South person who works POS ($1750 - $140.80) = $1,609.20 a month.
If you install a separate solar charging facility for your Leaf (which is what I intend to do), your electricity bill remains as-is (all things being equal).
Your investment in the Leaf is $230k including a full detail, mats, tint, nice raised metal plates, an air refresher and full comprehensive insurance. The solar addition to your home can start at $30k.
$230k + $30k = $260k is your total initial investment.
$260k ÷ $1750 = 12.4 years. This means it would take almost 13 years for this investment to pay for itself (for someone who starting from scratch).
If you're selling an existing vehicle to purchase a Leaf, then this figure reduces.
bluefete wrote:
To fork out money for a whole new platform, u have to make the old one too expensive to maintain.K_J_R wrote:bluefete wrote:
i thought their selling electric cars because most manufacturers are swithing to electric an hybrid all arond d world.
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sMASH wrote:To fork out money for a whole new platform, u have to make the old one too expensive to maintain.K_J_R wrote:bluefete wrote:
i thought their selling electric cars because most manufacturers are swithing to electric an hybrid all arond d world.
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