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Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby EmilioA » March 8th, 2016, 7:56 pm

Apparently the Order of Trinidad and Tobago medal that was posthumously awarded to Adrian Cola Rienzi (born Krishna Deonarine) in 2012, found its way on Ebay. It was put up for auction by a Canadian coin dealer who says he purchased it from the bonafide owner.

Ansa Mcal group has since announced they will bid for the medal to return it to T&T. President Carmona deplores that anyone would sell a national award.

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Now the medal was apparently received by he son who now living in Canada. So my question is who sold it ?

Rienzi’s award was collected by his son, Robert Abidh-Waugh.

http://m.guardian.co.tt/news/2012-09-01 ... ight-crime

You cannot do this to us.”

That was the message sent by an incensed President Anthony Carmona yesterday, to those responsible for peddling the Order of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago (ORTT) medal, the nation’s highest award, on the international e-commerce website, eBay.

Carmona said the award was not a rag doll to dispose, but a symbol of national pride and honour.

He was responding to the attempted sale of the 18 carat gold medal awarded posthumously to trade union leader Adrian Cola Rienzi in 2012.

And he noted that maybe the time had come to have persons honoured or their representatives sign an agreement prohibiting the sale of the ORTT medal.

In a statement yesterday, Carmona said: “The Order of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago is not a rag doll that is disposable. This ultimate symbol of our Nation’s pride and honour is sacrosanct. The intended sale of the ORTT medal offends one’s sense of patriotism and exposes a raw nerve.”

Carmona added, “We must explore our way out of this scenario. Maybe the time has come that all persons who are so honoured or their representatives, sign a contract giving the Office of The President (OTP) the first option to buy the medal in the event of intended disposal/sale; or better still, amend the law to absolutely prohibit the sale/disposal of the ORTT medal. We need to create our very own international benchmark as it relates to our ORTT medal.”

He said the ORTT must become a proud heirloom in the family.

“My humble admonition and entreaty to whoever is responsible for the intended sale of the ORTT medal, You cannot do this to us.”

The gold medal, packaged with the original award document, signed by President George Maxwell Richards and stamped with the presidential seal, has been offered up for bidding starting at US$25,000.

The ORTT, the country’s highest award, was bestowed on Rienzi by the Kamla Persad-Bissessar-led People’s Partnership government in 2012. Rienzi was among three recipients for the nation’s highest award that year, the other two being former prime minister George Chambers (posthumously) and Olympic gold medallist (javelin) Keshorn Walcott.

The award was received by Rienzi’s son, Robert Waugh.

Attempts to reach Waugh by telehpone at his Canadian home yesterday were unsuccessful.

As part of the sales pitch, the medal was described as “Unquestionably genuine, from the estate, and VERY RARE!”

The site explained that Rienzi founded the Oilfields Workers’ Trade Union (OWTU), and the All Trinidad Sugar Estates and Factory Workers Union, among other notable achievements.

Prof Brinsley Samaroo said he was saddened by the the sale and suggested that the medal be given to a local museum.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160308/news/the-president-is-not-amused

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby K74T » March 8th, 2016, 8:24 pm

Sabga bidding on it to bring it back home.

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby levertheman » March 8th, 2016, 8:27 pm

The gold medal, packaged with the original award document, signed by President George Maxwell Richards and stamped with the presidential seal, has been offered up for bidding starting at US$25,000.

The ORTT, the country’s highest award, was bestowed on Rienzi by the Kamla Persad-Bissessar-led People’s Partnership government in 2012. Rienzi was among three recipients for the nation’s highest award that year, the other two being former prime minister George Chambers (posthumously) and Olympic gold medallist (javelin) Keshorn Walcott.

The award was received by Rienzi’s son, Robert Waugh.

Attempts to reach Waugh by telehpone at his Canadian home yesterday were unsuccessful.

As part of the sales pitch, the medal was described as “Unquestionably genuine, from the estate, and VERY RARE!”

The site explained that Rienzi founded the Oilfields Workers’ Trade Union (OWTU), and the All Trinidad Sugar Estates and Factory Workers Union, among other notable achievements.

Prof Brinsley Samaroo said he was saddened by the the sale and suggested that the medal be given to a local museum.
.....AWWWWW these men so sad.....


question: Anthony Carmona lost his job and have to pay car loan and mortage?
B.Samaroo lost his ability to make money as a teacher or consultant?

is ah blasted recession - ppl losing they jobs, companies have to counter increase cost for good and services and reduced revenues...meaning less profit or LOSS ...they will fire your cant just to avoid that.

SOMEBODY want to make some money......AWWWWW we sooooo sad they selling a medal.

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby pugboy » March 8th, 2016, 10:44 pm

better than politicians robbing the country blind

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby mark2.0 » March 8th, 2016, 11:35 pm

Some people will sell anything.

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby mark2.0 » March 8th, 2016, 11:36 pm

Some people will sell anything.

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby shogun » March 9th, 2016, 12:07 am

Epitome of the term "sellout"

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby De Dragon » March 9th, 2016, 12:13 am

At least offer it to the Government for purchase! To hock it on eBay is really low class.

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby napster16 » March 9th, 2016, 12:36 am

Bid $30k.... win it and sell it to ANSA for $50k usd. Easy $20k usd profit ?

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby sMASH » March 9th, 2016, 4:11 am

Who would want to buy that...

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby RASC » March 9th, 2016, 6:04 am

How ironic would be be if PNM financiers had to bring it home...

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby De Dragon » March 9th, 2016, 6:06 am

RASC wrote:How ironic would be be if PNM financiers had to bring it home...

Where is the irony in that?

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby SR » March 9th, 2016, 6:09 am

But they bought ....paintings.....

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby skylinechild » March 9th, 2016, 6:54 am

to the chessburn crew.....this is the 2nd time its being sold though... :|

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medal is here >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Order-of-Republ ... SwZ8ZW2jQS

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby S_2NR » March 9th, 2016, 7:58 am

if trinidad wins the bid it will be stolen/lost in customs

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby moti » March 9th, 2016, 8:02 am

If I was the seller, I would have created another account and open a bidding war with Ansa.

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby RBphoto » March 9th, 2016, 8:06 am

Cyah eat goal medal and ting danboidawgboi. If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense.

Seriously tho, I see no problem with the sale of it. At least the person buying it will have the means to preserve it's integrity.

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby Habit7 » March 9th, 2016, 10:03 am

I see nothing wrong with what the seller did, although I won't personally do it. The award was given posthumously so Rienzi stillgets the credit. But if his son is a crack head and he has no chill for T&T, let him hawk it and eat the money.

Ppl do it with Olympic medals, Oscar trophies, military and national awards even when you not allowed to. TT has no law against it. Capitalism in full swing.

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Postby RBphoto » March 9th, 2016, 10:49 am

3NE2NR group buy?

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby j.o.e » March 9th, 2016, 11:20 am

According to le Wikipedia .... Riemzi died in 1972 .... I believe award was granted around 2012... That's 40 years after his death. Family who piping it probably never even saw the man alive ... Means nothing to them.
Money haffi run, I wouldn't do it but I don't see the big deal. It's not like the actual recipient selling it.

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby bluesclues » March 9th, 2016, 11:41 am

country spranging everything else on the international market so what is a pamphlet and a medal?

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby *$kїđž!™ » March 9th, 2016, 12:05 pm

who really wanna buy that for keepsake purposes?....MEdal from trinidad...bleh....

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby j.o.e » March 9th, 2016, 12:07 pm

*$kїđž![TRADE MARK SIGN] wrote:who really wanna buy that for keepsake purposes?....MEdal from trinidad...bleh....


Well they got it sold , it's the person who bought it reselling it now. Would be interesting to know the original price they got .... Maybe they wouldn't gotten more if they sold it themselves to Ansa

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby teems1 » March 9th, 2016, 12:49 pm

What he did isn't illegal but tasteless.

T&T should do what the Academy does for the Oscar trophies. The Academy legally always has the first option to buy back any Oscar for $1 USD.

This is set up to avoid this exact scenario with collectors/Ebay etc.

http://www.forbes.com/2006/03/01/oscars-black-market_cx_lr_0301blackmarketoscars.html

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby RBphoto » March 9th, 2016, 12:50 pm

Would have loved to see this on pawn stars..... "That looks like a cool Trinidadian medal and all......but let me call a friend in who is an expert on Trinidadian medals to see just what we are dealing with here".... :lol:

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby uncle sam » March 9th, 2016, 12:54 pm

I want it to wear on boat ride

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby bluestarz9 » March 9th, 2016, 12:56 pm

whats the BUY IT NOW PRICE?

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » March 9th, 2016, 1:40 pm

Ansa Mcal will most likely offer the highest bid for this medal. Doubt anyone else interested could out bid them. Hopefully they are successful and it is returned to T&T

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Order-of-Republ ... SwZ8ZW2jQS

there are 3 bids on it the current highest bid is US $25,200.00 There is NO buy it now price.

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby j.o.e » March 9th, 2016, 2:15 pm

uncle sam wrote:I want it to wear on boat ride


Yea fadda .... And when yuh not wearing it, hang it from the rearview mirror on the Tiida ..... Oaaar!!

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Re: Who sold Rienzi's Order of T&T medal ?

Postby uncle sam » March 9th, 2016, 2:23 pm

j.o.e wrote:
uncle sam wrote:I want it to wear on boat ride


Yea fadda .... And when yuh not wearing it, hang it from the rearview mirror on the Tiida ..... Oaaar!!


len muh jigga dem fuh pix on d gram

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