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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby RedVEVO » August 9th, 2022, 1:17 pm

SuperiorMan wrote:Appeals court says House can obtain Trump's taxes from the IRS

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/09/politics ... es-opinion

(CNN)A federal appeals court on Tuesday signed off on a House Ways and Means Committee request to obtain former President Donald Trump's tax returns from the Internal Revenue Service.

The 3-0 ruling from the DC Circuit Court of Appeals is a blow to Trump, who has argued for years in court against releasing his tax returns to any investigators. A trial-level judge he appointed while president previously rejected his arguments in the case.

But Trump still could appeal, making the litigation unlikely to end at this time. The court said the judgment would not issued for seven days, giving Trump time to appeal. This litigation is separate from the House select committee's investigation into the January 6 riot.
The majority opinion, written by Circuit Judge David Sentelle, said that Ways and Means Committee Chairman Richard Neal's request for the records was within the scope of his committee's inquiry, and the court also rejected Trump's argument claiming that the request had a retaliatory motive, making it invalid.
Neal has requested the returns under a law that allows disclosure of an individual's tax returns to the committee -- a request that the Trump administration had rebuffed.
The appeals court on Tuesday said that Trump did not prevail in his argument that as a former President his records should not be turned over.
"In this case, the need for the Trump Parties' information to inform potential legislation overrides the burden to the Executive Branch largely because that burden is so tenuous," Sentelle, a Reagan appointee, wrote in the opinion.
Judge Karen Henderson, a George H.W. Bush appointee and Robert Wilkins, an Obama appointee, also agreed with the decision, though Henderson wrote that she believed there should be more scrutiny on a request like this that would have implications for the presidency.

The case stems lawsuit Neal filed in in 2019 seeking a court order compelling the IRS, then under the Trump administration, to turn over Trump's tax returns
The litigation moved at a slow pace that outlasted Trump's presidency, and in July of last year, the Justice Department signaled it was switching positions in the case in favor of the committee obtaining the returns. District Judge Trevor McFadden, a Trump appointee, last December granted requests from the department and the House to dismiss the case, prompting Trump's appeal to the DC Circuit.


Everybody wanna know about his wealth .

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby SuperiorMan » August 10th, 2022, 3:01 pm

Did President Trump break the law?

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Postby adnj » August 10th, 2022, 5:50 pm

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The officials, who have direct knowledge of the FBI's deliberations and were granted anonymity in order to discuss sensitive matters, said the raid of Donald Trump's Florida residence was deliberately timed to occur when the former president was away.

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-info ... 2283?amp=1

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All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby MaxPower » August 10th, 2022, 7:03 pm

Hailing the Great Emperor!

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby pete » August 10th, 2022, 8:36 pm

GOP had enough with his crap and sold him out. Sucks that he appointed this fbi director and he raised the penalty for illegally removing confidential documents from 1 to 5 years.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby SuperiorMan » August 10th, 2022, 8:37 pm

This is the time to support the Master!

In these times we need to show our support. Anyone can support anyone in good times but it's these times that he really needs us.

President Trump we are all there for you.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 11th, 2022, 12:46 am

Trump Pleads the Fifth


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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby shogun » August 11th, 2022, 1:00 am

"The mob takes the 5th.. only guilty people do" - Donald Trump.

pete wrote:GOP had enough with his crap and sold him out. Sucks that he appointed this fbi director and he raised the penalty for illegally removing confidential documents from 1 to 5 years.


This true? :lol:

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby adnj » August 11th, 2022, 4:18 am

shogun wrote:"The mob takes the 5th.. only guilty people do" - Donald Trump.

pete wrote:GOP had enough with his crap and sold him out. Sucks that he appointed this fbi director and he raised the penalty for illegally removing confidential documents from 1 to 5 years.


This true?


It's true.

The pre-existing US law for mishandling classified documents carried a maximum penalty of one year. It was highly publicized that the new Trump administration was "tough on leakers" so, during Trump's first year, Congress modified the pre-existing law to read "five years" instead of "one year."

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby pete » August 11th, 2022, 7:37 am

I don't think it was to be tough on leakers. It was more to deal with "her emails". The irony is astounding :lol:

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby Les Bain » August 11th, 2022, 9:04 am

When the FBI investigated Hillary 11 days before the election, Republicans were chanting to lock her up.

Trump appointed the FBI director and increased the penalty for removing confidential documents.

Now the FBI investigating Trump and Republicans and trumpers alike bawling it unfair....they could come for you next...defund the FBI. Also, trump sending out woe is me newsletters and asking for donations.

Have to hand it to trump...he really knows how to mine his fanbase like the bunch of deluded suckers they are.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby adnj » August 11th, 2022, 9:25 am

pete wrote:I don't think it was to be tough on leakers. It was more to deal with "her emails". The irony is astounding
Petraeus and Berger were both Democrats:

When former CIA Director David Petraeus was charged in 2015 with mishandling classified data, he pleaded guilty under this statute to avoid a felony charge, as Politico pointed out. A similar situation unfolded a decade earlier, when former national security adviser Samuel Berger pleaded guilty to removing terrorism-related materials from the National Archives in 2005.

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Postby 16 cycles » August 11th, 2022, 1:20 pm

he may not have known what was removed and not aware of the requests made from Archives i.e. someone else might be responsible for the 5 yrs

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby antlind » August 11th, 2022, 1:26 pm

Les Bain wrote:When the FBI investigated Hillary 11 days before the election, Republicans were chanting to lock her up.

Trump appointed the FBI director and increased the penalty for removing confidential documents.

Now the FBI investigating Trump and Republicans and trumpers alike bawling it unfair....they could come for you next...defund the FBI. Also, trump sending out woe is me newsletters and asking for donations.

Have to hand it to trump...he really knows how to mine his fanbase like the bunch of deluded suckers they are.


Agreed. This fiasco will only serve to make Trump more popular and expand his base. Look out, 2024 is right around the corner.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby SuperiorMan » August 11th, 2022, 1:30 pm

Thank you democrats.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby adnj » August 11th, 2022, 3:02 pm

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby adnj » August 11th, 2022, 3:38 pm

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Is that the world we want to live in? Where anyone accused of insurrection can be subject to questioning from law enforcement officers?

It’s a slippery slope. Before we know it, regular citizens accused of defrauding the government, concealing evidence, manipulating financial documents, tampering with witnesses or perverting the course of justice will also be held to account.

Or to put it another way, if we simply shrug our shoulders and fail to question the actions of the FBI, soon any old Joe Citizen who is suspected of ripping classified government documents into small pieces and flushing them down the toilet will be obliged to answer to law enforcement, as well as their plumber.

If we don’t ask the hard questions about the potential motives of the FBI now, soon any one of us who buries our ex-wife in a small grave at the side of their golf course in order to gain a tax concession will be treated with suspicion.  

As Trump supporters put it so clearly yesterday, if this can happen to a President, it could happen to anyone who has committed insurrection, assault or fraud. That’s a chilling thought.  

We are on new ground here. As Donald Trump himself made clear, this is the first time a former president’s home has been raided. Proof, if ever we needed it, that the FBI shamefully only targets people who it considers to have committed a crime. Who gave FBI director Chris Wray that authority?

As we made clear earlier, we’re certainly not Trump supporters. But in today’s partisan world, it would be easy to fall into the trap of cheering on the FBI’s actions, without taking a step back to look at the bigger picture. If Trump goes to jail, it opens the door for every lying, corrupt, perverted piece of sheit to go to jail too. Is that what we want?

https://www.theshovel.com.au/2022/08/10 ... umps-home/

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby Les Bain » August 11th, 2022, 4:08 pm

Question for the American legal system enthusiasts:
As a prosecutor what's the next step after someone pleads the 5th? Cue the laugh track like on the Chapelle Show skit?

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby shogun » August 11th, 2022, 5:19 pm

Armed man tried to breach FBI building in Cincinnati, authorities say

Aug 11 (Reuters) - Police were locked in a standoff on Thursday with an armed man who tried to breach the FBI building in Cincinnati, Ohio, earlier in the day before fleeing and exchanging gunfire with officers, authorities said.

The incident began at about 9:15 a.m. (1315 GMT) when the suspect unsuccessfully tried to enter the FBI's visitor screening facility. He then fled the area in a white vehicle, heading northbound on Interstate 71, the FBI said. About 20 minutes later, a state trooper spotted the vehicle in nearby Warren County and attempted a traffic stop. A chase ensued as the suspect fired his weapon at the state trooper, Ohio State Highway Patrol spokesman Nathan Dennis said during a news briefing.

The vehicle eventually came to a stop and gunfire was exchanged between the suspect and police officers, he said. No police were injured, Dennis said. "The scene is still active and there is still an active standoff situation at this time," Dennis said.

Several highways in the Cincinnati area were closed as a result.

"Law enforcement has traded shots with a male suspect who is wearing a gray shirt and body armor," Clinton County Emergency Management Agency said earlier, urging people in the area to stay inside and lock their doors.

NBC News reported that the suspect was armed with an AR-15-style semiautomatic rifle and fired a nail gun into the FBI building.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi-sa ... 022-08-11/


Who's surprised that the rhetoric and accusations against the FBI on the right led to something like this?

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby adnj » August 11th, 2022, 6:05 pm

Les Bain wrote:Question for the American legal system enthusiasts:
As a prosecutor what's the next step after someone pleads the 5th? Cue the laugh track like on the Chapelle Show skit?
Pleading the Fifth in a US civil suit is no different than not answering questions in a criminal case; with one glaring exception: failure to answer questions cannot be used against a defendant in a criminal case. In a civil case, failure to answer a question CAN be (and typically is) considered as an admission of culpability and serves to aid the plaintiff in gaining a favorable decision.

For those less inclined to make sense out of sense made:

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby shogun » August 11th, 2022, 7:14 pm

Pro-Trump apparel company fined for removing "Made In China" labels and falsely replacing products with "Made in USA"

The Federal Trade Commission ordered apparel company Lions Not Sheep and its owner Sean Whalen to stop labeling its products with fake "Made in USA" tags and pay more than $200,000 in fines.

The big picture: Lions Not Sheep is known for its pro-gun and pro-Trump shirts, featuring phrases like "Let's Go Brandon," "Give Violence a Chance" and "Shall Not Be Infringed."

Driving the news: The company was replacing the "Made in China" tags on its clothes with phony "Made in USA" tags, according to the FTC.

Whalen posted a video of himself in October 2020, saying he could "conceal the fact that his shirts are made in China by ripping out the origin tags and replacing them," according to the commission's original complaint.
The FTC ordered Whalen and his company to "stop making bogus Made in USA claims" and "come clean about foreign production." Whalen must also pay a $211,335 fine.
What they're saying: "Whalen and Lions Not Sheep must stop claiming that products are made in the United States unless they can show that the product’s final assembly or processing — and all significant processing — takes place here and that all or virtually all ingredients or components of the product are made and sourced here," the FTC said in a press release.

To use a "Made in USA" tag, Lions Not Sheep must ensure that the item is "substantially transformed in the United States, its principal assembly takes place in the United States, and U.S. assembly operations are substantial," as well as clearly disclose "the extent to which the product contains foreign parts, ingredients or components, or processing," according to the FTC.

https://www.axios.com/2022/08/07/lions- ... ade-in-usa


This story is the perfect encapsulation of Trumpists.

"Lions not sheep" :lol:

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby adnj » August 11th, 2022, 8:45 pm

Lyin' not sheep!

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Postby adnj » August 11th, 2022, 10:16 pm

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Classified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items FBI agents sought in a search of former president Donald Trump’s Florida residence on Monday, according to people familiar with the investigation.

Experts in classified information said the unusual search underscores deep concern among government officials about the types of information they thought could be located at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club and potentially in danger of falling into the wrong hands.

The people who described some of the material that agents were seeking spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. They did not offer additional details about what type of information the agents were seeking, including whether it involved weapons belonging to the United States or some other nation. Nor did they say if such documents were recovered as part of the search. A Trump spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The Justice Department and FBI declined to comment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... ar-a-lago/

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 11th, 2022, 10:22 pm

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Classified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items FBI agents sought in a search of former president Donald Trump’s Florida residence on Monday, according to people familiar with the investigation.

Experts in classified information said the unusual search underscores deep concern among government officials about the types of information they thought could be located at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club and potentially in danger of falling into the wrong hands.

The people who described some of the material that agents were seeking spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. They did not offer additional details about what type of information the agents were seeking, including whether it involved weapons belonging to the United States or some other nation. Nor did they say if such documents were recovered as part of the search. A Trump spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The Justice Department and FBI declined to comment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... ar-a-lago/

Trump not going to jail, go and sleep

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Postby maj. tom » August 11th, 2022, 10:40 pm

This is also a pure coincidence why Saudi Arabia suddenly invested $2Billion in a brand new firm with no track record formed by Jared Kushner (senior advisor to 45th U.S. president Donald Trump, his father-in-law) when they left the White House last year after the failed coup attempt.


The House Oversight Committee has launched an investigation into a $2 billion investment by the Saudi government into a firm formed by Jared Kushner after he left the White House last year.

Chairwoman Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., wrote in a letter to Kushner that her committee is looking into the investment by the sovereign wealth fund of Saudi Arabia, which is controlled by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, into Kushner’s firm Affinity.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/03/house-oversight-investigating-2b-saudi-investment-in-jared-kushners-firm.html

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Postby shogun » August 11th, 2022, 11:44 pm

^That investigation should have been launched months ago. $2Bn "investment" into his company was the red flags of red flags when I first heard about it. Thought it was pay for play access, or even to turn a blind eye to the Khashoggi murder/dismemberment?

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Postby shogun » August 11th, 2022, 11:45 pm

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Classified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items FBI agents sought in a search of former president Donald Trump’s Florida residence on Monday, according to people familiar with the investigation.

Experts in classified information said the unusual search underscores deep concern among government officials about the types of information they thought could be located at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club and potentially in danger of falling into the wrong hands.

The people who described some of the material that agents were seeking spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. They did not offer additional details about what type of information the agents were seeking, including whether it involved weapons belonging to the United States or some other nation. Nor did they say if such documents were recovered as part of the search. A Trump spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The Justice Department and FBI declined to comment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... ar-a-lago/



Just read this elsewhere. Christ.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby The_Honourable » August 12th, 2022, 1:04 am

Mmoney607 wrote:Trump not going to jail, go and sleep


Exactly... mid-terms in the air. Usual media hype for ratings.

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At a two-hour sentencing hearing for former Virginia police Sgt. Thomas Robertson in U.S. District Court in Washington, Judge Christopher Cooper told Robertson that as a member of law enforcement he took an oath to obey the law. But citing witness testimony and text messages, the judge said that Robertson had told a close friend that he was prepared to fight a “civil war.” Even after his arrest and initial release on bail, the judge said Robertson destroyed evidence and kept a sophisticated rifle and “explosive device” at his home in violation of the court’s order. Federal authorities ultimately re-arrested Robertson and learned that while on bail, he had arranged to buy more than 30 more guns in violation of the judge’s order.

https://news.yahoo.com/ex-virginia-poli ... 02953.html

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