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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2021?

Postby adnj » January 10th, 2023, 9:18 am

Dim some lights. Use less air conditioning. They’ll be fine.

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2021?

Postby hover11 » January 10th, 2023, 9:27 am

adnj wrote:Dim some lights. Use less air conditioning. They’ll be fine.
Ministries lights and AC units do not turn off

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2021?

Postby AlphaMan » January 10th, 2023, 10:18 am

Supermarket Association waiting for the Electricity increase to unleash their increases to the citizenry..
2023 gonna be lit!

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2021?

Postby adnj » January 10th, 2023, 10:30 am

hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:Dim some lights. Use less air conditioning. They’ll be fine.
Ministries lights and AC units do not turn off
When you start paying the ministry's utility bills, your post will start to make sense.

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2021?

Postby hover11 » January 10th, 2023, 10:34 am

adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:Dim some lights. Use less air conditioning. They’ll be fine.
Ministries lights and AC units do not turn off
When you start paying the ministry's utility bills, your post will start to make sense.
Indirectly I do pay it. The government doesn't have any money. It is taxpayers money.

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2021?

Postby nervewrecker » January 10th, 2023, 9:00 pm

hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:Dim some lights. Use less air conditioning. They’ll be fine.
Ministries lights and AC units do not turn off
I had this discussion with a guy that wears blue nomex behind bagging in melamine and loves to live under the supervisor desk. Employer is de grocery people.

He made an issue that I left the ac off in the container he is housed in and place getting warm. I was alone and could beat with the heat so no reason to turn on the ac.

He made a deal over it saying it's not me paying the bill and it's the people in green with the stripes over their shoulder paying it. Why am I even concerned about that?

Unnecessary load on the electrical infrastructure warrants increased bill. So we all pay for it. Can someone hail him out and show him this? Thank him one time. You'd expect electrical men to have some sense pertaining to this.

Central air systems are on a schedule, they come on at around 6am and cut off about 6 or 8pm. Some have the temp setting raised higher in the night. So the systems do cut off.

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2021?

Postby adnj » January 10th, 2023, 9:47 pm

nervewrecker wrote:
hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:Dim some lights. Use less air conditioning. They’ll be fine.
Ministries lights and AC units do not turn off
I had this discussion with a guy that wears blue nomex behind bagging in melamine and loves to live under the supervisor desk. Employer is de grocery people.

He made an issue that I left the ac off in the container he is housed in and place getting warm. I was alone and could beat with the heat so no reason to turn on the ac.

He made a deal over it saying it's not me paying the bill and it's the people in green with the stripes over their shoulder paying it. Why am I even concerned about that?

Unnecessary load on the electrical infrastructure warrants increased bill. So we all pay for it. Can someone hail him out and show him this? Thank him one time. You'd expect electrical men to have some sense pertaining to this.

Central air systems are on a schedule, they come on at around 6am and cut off about 6 or 8pm. Some have the temp setting raised higher in the night. So the systems do cut off.


Hoover may not know what is happening in his building at night.

Commercial buildings do not typically power off all lights but rather power off banks of lights. Even if the workers go home, some lights stay on for fire safety egress or cleaning crews.

I agree that air temperatures are likely programmed. Most commercial AC systems remain on to provide fresh air exchanges within the building to prevent the buildup of mold, dust, and other contaminants. Most recently air exchanges were increased in some locations to reduce COVID viral loads in the air.

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2021?

Postby bluefete » January 11th, 2023, 12:59 am

Thanks maj.tom.

The RIC seems to be trying very hard to be fair to both sides of the equation. Long but very interesting read.


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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2021?

Postby 88sins » January 11th, 2023, 3:58 pm

AlphaMan wrote:Supermarket Association waiting for the Electricity increase to unleash their increases to the citizenry..
2023 gonna be lit!



Not only them.
Price of local chicken from our largest meat processors is going to take a HUGE jump. Same will happen with other food imports that require refrigeration.

Because these companies use very large cold storage buildings, and many of them are aged and somewhat inefficient in keeping cold in and heat out. These refrigeration systems don't run on unicorn farts.


Brace for the pain, everybody gonna get a taste

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2021?

Postby redmanjp » January 11th, 2023, 7:16 pm

^wont it be smart to switch to more newer efficient ones? the decreased ttec bill would mean it pays for itself after a while.

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2021?

Postby nervewrecker » January 11th, 2023, 8:47 pm

redmanjp wrote:^wont it be smart to switch to more newer efficient ones? the decreased ttec bill would mean it pays for itself after a while.
They ain't cheap.

Newer systems aren't exactly available yet as technology is still changing.

We more or less in the transition stages with refrigerants. We are moving towards hydrocarbon type but I think there is some law prohibiting certain types in use in systems over a certain capacity. Being highly flammable things can become catastrophic from faulty install or where proper safety procedure isn't adhered to. I am of the firm belief we are not ready for these on our shores.

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2021?

Postby 88sins » January 12th, 2023, 12:05 am

redmanjp wrote:^wont it be smart to switch to more newer efficient ones? the decreased ttec bill would mean it pays for itself after a while.

Smart? Yes. Cheap? Hell no. Gotta understand, to such large companies, them eh really care if you paying more for less, because chicken is a basic staple of most people daily diet, so unless the majority of people decide to go vegan they go pay, no matter the cost. And these companies not looking to shell out that kinda coin to save you a dollar, when it more cost effective and time efficient for them to pass the added electricity costs onto the consumer and say "yuh see, we paying more fuh current too"

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2021?

Postby sMASH » January 12th, 2023, 5:42 am

A case like this where to move to more power efficient systems is a big capital investment, and the savings would not justify that Invedtment, the govt should step in to facilitate that transition.

But, any cost savings, would translate to more profits, not reduced customer prices. Cause u don't have enough competition

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Postby Mmoney607 » January 19th, 2023, 9:21 pm

Real bachannal in the RIC consultations

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Postby matr1x » January 19th, 2023, 9:25 pm

That lady Blaze him good.

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Postby Mmoney607 » January 19th, 2023, 9:28 pm

matr1x wrote:That lady Blaze him good.

Who Marsha Walker? IDK why UNC think they are the party to fight for the poor man

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2023?

Postby The_Honourable » January 20th, 2023, 11:14 am

Some clips of the RIC public consultation




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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2023?

Postby hover11 » January 20th, 2023, 11:15 am

Minister of Public Utilities Marvin Gonzales has accused some United National Congress members of using the Regulated Industries Commission’s first public consultation on the proposed increase in electricity rates to revive their political careers.

https://www.cnc3.co.tt/citizens-reject- ... ity-rates/


PNM logic, anyone who doesn't want to pay more for utilities is a UNC....

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2021?

Postby redmanjp » January 20th, 2023, 11:50 am

sMASH wrote:A case like this where to move to more power efficient systems is a big capital investment, and the savings would not justify that Invedtment, the govt should step in to facilitate that transition.

But, any cost savings, would translate to more profits, not reduced customer prices. Cause u don't have enough competition


and this is why at least in more developed countries serious about energy efficiency, ppl can get rebates or credits for buying energy efficient devices. why not here? once they do that it would make sense to switch when ppl start seeing TTEC bills of thousands of dollars more. they getting d rebate and when they switch getting lower bills as well.

and we have had the lowest rates in the region- this has caused us to waste electricity- leaving on lights and AC all night etc. now that it going up that have to change.

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Postby matr1x » January 20th, 2023, 12:48 pm

Some will get to waste it, you mean

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2023?

Postby toyolink » January 20th, 2023, 1:38 pm

The need to create more efficiencies and cost adjustments to our electricity comsumption profile is not a new acknowledged condition to all and sundry .
The question about adjustments that is really fuelling the public angst is more about who bears the burden and why now when most individuals are facing financial crisis the state has adopted a position to dump the burden on the 'small man'.
The T&TEC issue when coupled with increased fuel prices, property tax and WASA to come is going to have extreme impacts of all including rental tenants and pensioners.
The RIC reps. are really agents of the state whose terms of reference is confined to static assessments which does not accomodate social impact analysis and in some cases their utterances borders on callousness (eg class classification based on AC units).

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2023?

Postby redmanjp » January 20th, 2023, 2:20 pm

the rebates and tax credits, and perhaps interest free loans could all help the switch to more energy efficient devices.

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2023?

Postby adnj » January 20th, 2023, 2:27 pm

What 'devices'?

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2023?

Postby bluefete » January 20th, 2023, 6:42 pm

First increase is over 50%.

Small thing for people paying $12,000.00 to rent a Cabana for a fete.

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2023?

Postby hover11 » January 20th, 2023, 6:49 pm

This will only affect the small man and it will be business as usual for the other sectors. Businessmen will raise their prices to maintain their profit margins, landlords will increase their rental fees. The status quo will remain the same.
bluefete wrote:First increase is over 50%.

Small thing for people paying $12,000.00 to rent a Cabana for a fete.

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2023?

Postby redmanjp » January 20th, 2023, 7:17 pm

adnj wrote:What 'devices'?


AC for one. perhaps even a rebate for radiant barrier insulation to keep the heat out as well.

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2023?

Postby timelapse » January 20th, 2023, 7:19 pm

I will stop bathing in protest.Who is with me?

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2023?

Postby DMan7 » January 20th, 2023, 7:20 pm

So when can we expect to see used AC units being put up for sale on facebook?

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2023?

Postby 88sins » January 20th, 2023, 7:57 pm

timelapse wrote:I will stop bathing in protest.Who is with me?


u behind the curve bai
It have fellas here that say "God make water to drink, not to bathe" years now.

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Re: T&TEC, WASA increase coming in 2016... now 2023?

Postby pugboy » January 20th, 2023, 8:34 pm

yuh lucky the man ain’t say water heaters is not for “average” ppl too

DMan7 wrote:So when can we expect to see used AC units being put up for sale on facebook?

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