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Per capital usage estimates also account for wastage. The estimates are based on the consumption of metered commercial and residential connections and are then extrapolated.De Dragon wrote:Redman wrote:88sins wrote:Redman wrote:sMASH wrote:should 4kin triple it.
Based on what iv read
Even if they do..we would still pay about $2.00 TTD per cubic meter.
Jamaica pays $12.00
Curacao\ Bahamas pay $18.00
However....using the per capita use of locals as published by wasa, and assuming we pay 400 per quarter....we actually pay 12 ¢
first thing you have to ask when considering WASA's figures for per capita usage, do they adjust for the millions of gallons wasted by leaks that are usually left unattended for weeks and months? or are those wasted resources palmed off as "consumed" when they are not?
The per capita usage was off a news article.
I read a WRA doc that set production at 382 MCM per year.
37% domestic
47% unaccounted for...ie leaks.
So they don't hide it
So half going to waste and the PNM expects people to meekly swallow a fixed rate increase? The very definition of paying for nothing!
Redman wrote:382 MCM.
37% is domestic.
Subject to correction
That comes up to 65 gallons per person per day.
So that 90 gallon might include the commercial....I will find the specific doc and link it later.
sMASH wrote:as i have said before, if they meter the households, they would find that what is received by the houses, will be far less than what leave the battery limits. that is why they dont want to do meters, cause meters woudl cost money and they will be losing income.
so, is jess like what goes on in pt lisas take or pay contracts. WASA charging for what is sent out, not what is received.
sMASH wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Redman wrote:sMASH wrote:should 4kin triple it.
Based on what iv read
Even if they do..we would still pay about $2.00 TTD per cubic meter.
Jamaica pays $12.00
Curacao\ Bahamas pay $18.00
However....using the per capita use of locals as published by wasa, and assuming we pay 400 per quarter....we actually pay 12 ¢
I have a meter on one property and its around $1.85 per 220 gal
how ur quarterly bill looks like
Redman wrote:88sins wrote:Redman wrote:sMASH wrote:should 4kin triple it.
Based on what iv read
Even if they do..we would still pay about $2.00 TTD per cubic meter.
Jamaica pays $12.00
Curacao\ Bahamas pay $18.00
However....using the per capita use of locals as published by wasa, and assuming we pay 400 per quarter....we actually pay 12 ¢
first thing you have to ask when considering WASA's figures for per capita usage, do they adjust for the millions of gallons wasted by leaks that are usually left unattended for weeks and months? or are those wasted resources palmed off as "consumed" when they are not?
The per capita usage was off a news article.
I read a WRA doc that set production at 382 MCM per year.
37% domestic
47% unaccounted for...ie leaks.
So they don't hide it
meter houses before rate increase, lol.timothymcdavid wrote:Fix leaks before any rate increase.
timothymcdavid wrote:Several things is off ...
But so it goes when you live in a socialist country inefficiency abounds everywhere the central govt doesnt run things with dollars and cents in the forefront of their mind not even delivering good service ... red, red circles, yellow or even orange ... it is only about currying favor with their supporters at a time, place and price that suits them.
Sad thing is there is no real way we can privatize either WASA or T&TEC.
Although Trinidad and Tobago has an abundance of freshwater resources, the quantity and quality of the
resources are under significant threat due to climate change, pollution, watershed degradation and
increasing sectoral demand. In order to address these issues there must be a coordinated and integrated
approach to manage and optimise the resources across all sectors. Integrated Water Resource
Management (IWRM) is recognised internationally as best practice for guiding countries towards
coordinated development and management of water, land and related resources.
Freshwater Availability: Freshwater is a very limited resource, accounting for only 2.5% of the Earth’s
total water (UNESCO, 2003). The available surface water in Trinidad is estimated at 2800 MCM per year
(GENIVAR, 2008) and Tobago at 103 MCM per year (GENIVAR, 2008). The potential available
groundwater in Trinidad is estimated at 211 MCM per year (WRA 2013) and for Tobago at 55 MCM per
year (WRA, 2013). Therefore, the total water available for consumption in Trinidad and Tobago is
estimated at 3,169 MCM per year. Expressed per capita, the surface water availability in Trinidad and
Tobago is approximately 2,200 m3/year per person. The international criterion for water scarcity is less
than 1,000 m3/year per person. Thus by international standards, Trinidad and Tobago is not a water
scarce country.
Raw Freshwater Abstraction: A total of 342 MCM per year (WRA 2015) of water was abstracted from
surface (65%) and groundwater (35%) sources. The three major groups of abstractors WASA (96%),
Industrial/commercial (3%) and agriculture (1%).
Public Water Supply: The public water supplied in 2015 was estimated at 382 MCM per year, (WASA,
2016) comprising approximately 60% surface water, 23% ground water and 17% desalination.
The domestic sector was the largest single user of water in the country, accounting for approximately
37.3% of consumption (WASA, 2016). Total industrial and commercial consumption accounted for 14.5%
(WASA, 2016), with agriculture use at only 0.2% (WASA, 2016).
The area of concern is the very high unaccounted for water (UFW) at approximately 48%. The high level
of unaccounted for water, not only affects the supply to customers, but also places a higher expenditure
on treatment and pumping costs. Major causes of unaccounted for water are leaks in old and undersized
transmission and distribution systems, illegal water connections and the absence of universal metering. A
water demand reduction programme is required.
The demand for water was estimated at 393 MCM/year in 2015 (DHV, 1999). When the seasonal
variation is considered, the deficit in water availability is exacerbated during severe dry weather due to
low surface water flows adversely affecting the reliability of the water supply
Redman wrote:382 MCM.
37% is domestic.
Subject to correction
That comes up to 65 gallons per person per day.
So that 90 gallon might include the commercial....I will find the specific doc and link it later.
Not reallyshake d livin wake d dead wrote:Shake up long overdue... to bad pnmites would be affected the most
Redman is one of those, as we know he spends his goverment working time on Tuner posting propaganda.daxt0r wrote:i surprise they ent target TTEC first given the amount of skilled mamoo workers there.
The funny part is that the state of WASA was shocking to the honorable minister, every state company and board is filled with incompetent PNM stooges, this is common knowledge, like he head in the sand since he born or wa rofl.
zoom rader wrote:Redman is one of those, as we know he spends his goverment working time on Tuner posting propaganda.daxt0r wrote:i surprise they ent target TTEC first given the amount of skilled mamoo workers there.
The funny part is that the state of WASA was shocking to the honorable minister, every state company and board is filled with incompetent PNM stooges, this is common knowledge, like he head in the sand since he born or wa rofl.
This is how productive red Goverment supporters and bloggers are.
Redman is supposed to be working but he's on tuner and FB
Redman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Redman is one of those, as we know he spends his goverment working time on Tuner posting propaganda.daxt0r wrote:i surprise they ent target TTEC first given the amount of skilled mamoo workers there.
The funny part is that the state of WASA was shocking to the honorable minister, every state company and board is filled with incompetent PNM stooges, this is common knowledge, like he head in the sand since he born or wa rofl.
This is how productive red Goverment supporters and bloggers are.
Redman is supposed to be working but he's on tuner and FB
But Zoombindranath- how could you say responding to your insightful posts is non productive?
Im hurt.
zoom rader wrote:Redman is one of those, as we know he spends his goverment working time on Tuner posting propaganda.daxt0r wrote:i surprise they ent target TTEC first given the amount of skilled mamoo workers there.
The funny part is that the state of WASA was shocking to the honorable minister, every state company and board is filled with incompetent PNM stooges, this is common knowledge, like he head in the sand since he born or wa rofl.
This is how productive red Goverment supporters and bloggers are.
Redman is supposed to be working but he's on tuner and FB
zoom rader wrote:Redman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Redman is one of those, as we know he spends his goverment working time on Tuner posting propaganda.daxt0r wrote:i surprise they ent target TTEC first given the amount of skilled mamoo workers there.
The funny part is that the state of WASA was shocking to the honorable minister, every state company and board is filled with incompetent PNM stooges, this is common knowledge, like he head in the sand since he born or wa rofl.
This is how productive red Goverment supporters and bloggers are.
Redman is supposed to be working but he's on tuner and FB
But Zoombindranath- how could you say responding to your insightful posts is non productive?
Im hurt.
You are stealing time at your employers work place by spending all day on tuner posting propaganda .
You are a criminal by defrauding your employer
Yep blame kams for her one term in office.Redman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Redman is one of those, as we know he spends his goverment working time on Tuner posting propaganda.daxt0r wrote:i surprise they ent target TTEC first given the amount of skilled mamoo workers there.
The funny part is that the state of WASA was shocking to the honorable minister, every state company and board is filled with incompetent PNM stooges, this is common knowledge, like he head in the sand since he born or wa rofl.
This is how productive red Goverment supporters and bloggers are.
Redman is supposed to be working but he's on tuner and FB
But if it is as daxtor says -its set of PNM stooges in WASA- how is it that tanty Kams borrowed 250M USD in 2013 to reorganize WASA....and one of the goals of the loan-50M USD was allocated to reducing the staff levels by about 50%.
So they get the loans-but staff levels remained the same.??
You would think that if it was PNM stooges- axe would have drop.
Oddly after a few years of decreasing staff in 2010 the trend began reversing.
So in 2013 the UNC borrowed 250M USD to straighten out WASA...20.1 of which is to deal directly with staff levels,yet here we are today stuck with the loan and the staff...Kamla dem well rise fuh true.
https://docs.google.com/a/workersunion. ... DUyNWUwODE
You are using your Employer internet and PC equipment for your personal gain.Redman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Redman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Redman is one of those, as we know he spends his goverment working time on Tuner posting propaganda.daxt0r wrote:i surprise they ent target TTEC first given the amount of skilled mamoo workers there.
The funny part is that the state of WASA was shocking to the honorable minister, every state company and board is filled with incompetent PNM stooges, this is common knowledge, like he head in the sand since he born or wa rofl.
This is how productive red Goverment supporters and bloggers are.
Redman is supposed to be working but he's on tuner and FB
But Zoombindranath- how could you say responding to your insightful posts is non productive?
Im hurt.
You are stealing time at your employers work place by spending all day on tuner posting propaganda .
You are a criminal by defrauding your employer
Thats OK Zoombindranath- i spend plenty extra hours doing what needs to be done so it works out-its not a 9-5.
However my employer thanks you for your concerns.
zoom rader wrote:You are using your Employer internet and PC equipment for your personal gain.Redman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Redman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Redman is one of those, as we know he spends his goverment working time on Tuner posting propaganda.daxt0r wrote:i surprise they ent target TTEC first given the amount of skilled mamoo workers there.
The funny part is that the state of WASA was shocking to the honorable minister, every state company and board is filled with incompetent PNM stooges, this is common knowledge, like he head in the sand since he born or wa rofl.
This is how productive red Goverment supporters and bloggers are.
Redman is supposed to be working but he's on tuner and FB
But Zoombindranath- how could you say responding to your insightful posts is non productive?
Im hurt.
You are stealing time at your employers work place by spending all day on tuner posting propaganda .
You are a criminal by defrauding your employer
Thats OK Zoombindranath- i spend plenty extra hours doing what needs to be done so it works out-its not a 9-5.
However my employer thanks you for your concerns.
This is stealing from your Employer and you are a dishonest employee
You are a Criminal, but that's expected with red Goverment people.
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