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you really don't think these things through, do you?EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Russia should respond with 1 nuclear charged ICBM.
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:^ Seeing that Turkey is a financier of ISIS, Russia would be doing everyone of us a favor.
Daran wrote:EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:^ Seeing that Turkey is a financier of ISIS, Russia would be doing everyone of us a favor.
I often wonder what mental ailment afflicts you.
Anyway, nothing major will result, wars don't start over 'small' incidents like these....usually. What concerns me though is that addition of my chaos to the clusterf*ck that is Syria and ISIS, but it could be for the best as Russia will be more motivated than ever to f*ck things up.
Any response from NATO yet?
DTAC wrote:It good for them. Russia regularly impinge on other countries borders with impunity. Flying into UK and other airspace and having to be chased out often. They do the same with their submarines.
djaggs wrote:
If the pilot was really shot and killed on the ground then retribution will be forthcoming.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Daran wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
That is barely a violation of Turkish Airspace......Turkey was clearly the aggressor in this situation. More ammo fo Putin to use to support what retaliation/reaction that will ensue.
Daran wrote:I agree Duane, but the trajectory of that flightpath would have taken the Russian jet away from the Turkish airspace eitherway.
This seemed very unprovoked (this incident) attacked on Russia by Turkey here. Adding salt to the wound is the killing of the Russian pilot(s).
"This event is beyond the normal framework of fighting against terrorism. Of course our military is doing heroic work against terrorism... But the loss today is a stab in the back, carried out by the accomplices of terrorists. I can’t describe it in any other way. Our aircraft was downed over the territory of Syria, using air-to-air missile from a Turkish F-16. It fell on the Syrian territory 4km from Turkey."
"Neither our pilots nor our jet threatened the territory of Turkey. This is obvious. They are fighting terrorists in the northern areas around Latakia, where militants are located, mainly people who originated in Russia, and they were pursuing their direct duty, to make sure these people do not return to Russia. These are people who are clearly international terrorists."
"Taking into account that we signed an agreement on deconflicting with the US, and as we know Turkey was among the ones that has joined the US coalition. Since Isis has such huge resources of hundreds of millions and billions of dollars coming from illicit oil sales, and they are protected by the armed forces of other states, then it’s clear why they are so brazen, why they are killing people, why they are carrying out terrorist attacks throughout the world including in the heart of Europe."
"We will analyse everything, and today’s tragic event will have significant consequences, including for Russia-Turkish relations. We have always treated Turkey as a friendly state. I don’t know who was interested in what happened today, certainly not us. And instead of immediately getting in contact with us, as far as we know, the Turkish side immediately turned to their partners from Nato to discuss this incident, as if we shot down their plane and not they ours."
"Do they want to make Nato serve ISIS? I understand that every state has its own regional interests and we’ve always respected that, but we will never allow the kind of crime that happened to today to take place. And of course we hope that the international community will find the strength to come together and fight against the common evil."
"We have long been recording the movement of a large amount of oil and petroleum products to Turkey from Isis-occupied territories. This explains the significant funding the terrorists are receiving. Now they are stabbing us in the back by hitting our planes that are fighting terrorism. This is happening despite the agreement we have signed with our American partners to prevent air incidents, and, as you know, Turkey is among those who are supposed to be fighting terrorism within the American coalition."
"If Isis is making so much money – we are talking about tens or maybe even hundreds of millions, possibly billions of dollars – in oil trade and they are supported by the armed forces of an entire state, it is clear why they are being so daring and impudent, why they are killing people in such gruesome ways, why they are committing terrorist attacks all over the world, including in the heart of Europe.
President Barack Obama says the downing of a Russian warplane by Turkey points to an "ongoing problem" with Russia's airstrikes in Syria.
Obama says Turkey "has a right to defend its territory and its airspace." And he says that Russia is operating very close to the Turkish border as it goes after moderate opposition groups that are supported by Turkey and a wide range of countries.
The president says that if Russia would instead concentrate its airstrikes on the Islamic State group, then mistakes would be "less likely to occur."
Obama is urging both Turkey and Russia to take measures "to discourage any kind of escalation" over the downing of the Russian warplane.
And Obama says that the downing of the plane underscores the importance of moving forward on efforts to find a political solution to the civil war in Syria.
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:lol @ Putin nuthuggers in this thread. If you have issues with the west you should also have issues with Putin.
Russia in d news probably as karma for MH17
EmilioA wrote:Obama speaks.President Barack Obama says the downing of a Russian warplane by Turkey points to an "ongoing problem" with Russia's airstrikes in Syria.
Obama says Turkey "has a right to defend its territory and its airspace." And he says that Russia is operating very close to the Turkish border as it goes after moderate opposition groups that are supported by Turkey and a wide range of countries.
The president says that if Russia would instead concentrate its airstrikes on the Islamic State group, then mistakes would be "less likely to occur."
Obama is urging both Turkey and Russia to take measures "to discourage any kind of escalation" over the downing of the Russian warplane.
And Obama says that the downing of the plane underscores the importance of moving forward on efforts to find a political solution to the civil war in Syria.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStor ... t-35391544
Putin ain't going to do Boo. NATO alliance in full effect.
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