South of the Caroni Bridge ?

[orangefox]

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/commenta ... 55541.html

" PM Persad-Bissessar has done her utmost to create an ethnic divide in the society that she euphemistically describes as north and south of the Caroni. Her argument is that the PNM concentrated its efforts on the development of the north of the Caroni (read African) and ignored the south of the Caroni (read Indian.) "

" The present version of this attack started when Dr Rowley took a wine, on Carnival day, on an Indian woman. Many UNC politicians saw this act as verging on the sacrilegious. Now, they have sunken to the lowest of the low. They have branded Dr Rowley and his descendants (that is, his children and his children’s children) as the products of rape. "

Not a fan of this writer in the past but .. Hmmm ?

Comments ?

[zoom rader]

Yawn

[desifemlove]

iz no UNC, but to be fair she says and tries to prove the opposite. if anything, she saying all de time that PNM neglected SOuth and she doing tings everywhere.

As for race politics, eh? been around for years, will stay for years..

[orangefox]

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/commenta ... 02611.html

Mr Selwyn Ryan writes :

" It is now 3.20 a.m. March 26. I lie awake, unable to sleep, largely because of the psychic wound which your party and your Government have inflicted on the people of this nation, which in our varying ways, we all love. "

[orangefox]

Yawn

ZR .. Very interested in your comments ..

[zoom rader]

Yawn

ZR .. Very interested in your comments ..

Fox it's best you sit this one out.
You need to be a trini with born generations that lived in south to understand the neglect.
PNM idea of development for south was two smelters with no country willing to accept the pot ash.

Both afro and especially indos areas suffered. Both La Brea & PT Fortin which are PNM were virtual dumps.

South have improved by leaps and bounds under PP in 5 years.

When UNC first came into office in late 90s they did very little to improve south cause they had PNM debts to pay off with oil at avg $9 a barrel. Some UNC voters felt betrayed and went COP not knowing what were the real issues UNC had to face. South ppl are becoming like Tobago and they do not forget the past.

PNM had south from 1956 to 1986 and very little was done with an oil bloom in 70s. Again they came back in the early 90s and still did Jack chit.
Manning did try a bit, but I think the racist in the PNM had their way over him and put a stop for development.

Long ago in Debe and Penal all you saw was Bodi (bodi price ent change) and Bygan plant now it's Welding and acetylene plants that you see

[orangefox]

^^

Above known ..

Appreciate the History class, Fox not need but maybe other Tuners will benefit

The comments I am looking for is why the racial divide strategy ?

Trinidad is already dysfunctional .

In Tobago the same strategy was used with the Chief Secretary .

There will never, never , never be ANY in-roads in Tobago with PP/UNC but Tobago progresses .

Virgin Airlines returned, one hotel got $9 M (US) upgrade, crime relatively low etc.

[orangefox]

Lol ..

the circle of racism ..

[zoom rader]

^^

Above known ..

Appreciate the History class, Fox not need but maybe other Tuners will benefit

The comments I am looking for is why the racial divide strategy ?

Trinidad is already dysfunctional .

In Tobago the same strategy was used with the Chief Secretary .

There will never, never , never be ANY in-roads in Tobago with PP/UNC but Tobago progresses .

Virgin Airlines returned, one hotel got $9 M (US) upgrade, crime relatively low etc.

You won't fine any racial divide strategy.
The PP this time balanced the neglected areas in parr with the rest of the country

[DVSTT]

I don't think the government needs to encourage a racial divide, most citizens can take care of that on their own.

[desifemlove]

^^

Above known ..

Appreciate the History class, Fox not need but maybe other Tuners will benefit

The comments I am looking for is why the racial divide strategy ?

Trinidad is already dysfunctional .

In Tobago the same strategy was used with the Chief Secretary .

There will never, never , never be ANY in-roads in Tobago with PP/UNC but Tobago progresses .

Virgin Airlines returned, one hotel got $9 M (US) upgrade, crime relatively low etc.

human nature..

colonialism.

peopel tink Dr. Williams "favoured he own" post-independence.

imho, a mix of all three.....

Politicians does know there is some tension, and try to capitalise on it.

[orangefox]

I don't think the government needs to encourage a racial divide, most citizens can take care of that on their own.

.. True .. But they fuel it to the max !

[DVSTT]

I don't think the government needs to encourage a racial divide, most citizens can take care of that on their own.

.. True .. But they fuel it to the max !

Race politics is here to stay whether we like it or not.

[zoom rader]

I don't think the government needs to encourage a racial divide, most citizens can take care of that on their own.

.. True .. But they fuel it to the max !

Race politics is here to stay whether we like it or not.

Not for long in 50 years time Trini will be a mixed population. The faster growing popluation are the mixed.
PNM plans to offset that by immigration from caricom less Guyana and Surinam.

[TK!]

Her argument is that the PNM concentrated its efforts on the development of the north of the Caroni (read African) and ignored the south of the Caroni (read Indian.) "

That's such an ignorant and racist point. As if up north hardly has any indo-trinis or down south hardly have afro-trinis.

[Redman]

I don't think the government needs to encourage a racial divide, most citizens can take care of that on their own.

.. True .. But they fuel it to the max !

Race politics is here to stay whether we like it or not.

Because its a model that works-both parties are happy with a fixed 35-40 % of the vote because of the race card.

That means they always in the game.

Like the UNC would ever put a non indian as a political leader-

Any one here can identify a philosophical difference between the UNC/PNM-How about how they differ on Economic Policy????

So what really is the difference??

[j.o.e]

Her argument is that the PNM concentrated its efforts on the development of the north of the Caroni (read African) and ignored the south of the Caroni (read Indian.) "

That's such an ignorant and racist point. As if up north hardly has any indo-trinis or down south hardly have afro-trinis.

I think all intelligent ppl know that there are indos in North and afros in south also. But the term is really code to ignite racial divisions in the simple minded crowd that are the core of the party voters.

[TRAE]

people dying and you studying this? we all know is true- patos was for the POS only

[orangefox]

Her argument is that the PNM concentrated its efforts on the development of the north of the Caroni (read African) and ignored the south of the Caroni (read Indian.) "

That's such an ignorant and racist point. As if up north hardly has any indo-trinis or down south hardly have afro-trinis.

I think all intelligent ppl know that there are indos in North and afros in south also. But the term is really code to ignite racial divisions in the simple minded crowd that are the core of the party voters.

So why does "the simple minded crowd" accept or tolerate the "code" ?

[Slartibartfast]

because they are simple minded

[Advent]

Her argument is that the PNM concentrated its efforts on the development of the north of the Caroni (read African) and ignored the south of the Caroni (read Indian.) "

That's such an ignorant and racist point. As if up north hardly has any indo-trinis or down south hardly have afro-trinis.

also to add, ANY CITY NEAR THE PORT OF ANY COUNTRY WILL BE BETTER DEVELOPED THAN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. PORT = WEALTH

[Sundar]

Her argument is that the PNM concentrated its efforts on the development of the north of the Caroni (read African) and ignored the south of the Caroni (read Indian.) "

That's such an ignorant and racist point. As if up north hardly has any indo-trinis or down south hardly have afro-trinis.

I think all intelligent ppl know that there are indos in North and afros in south also. But the term is really code to ignite racial divisions in the simple minded crowd that are the core of the party voters.

Orangefox, you have used this south of the caroni bridge term many a times....
i am from south, and i have lived the neglect, the only time we saw development was wen pnm out of power. and as far as racism goes, simple as urp jobs were racially biased when selecting ppl to get work. real dutty and low. women had to slp around with councillors to get a lil checker wuk. but say what Great is the PNM

[desifemlove]

Her argument is that the PNM concentrated its efforts on the development of the north of the Caroni (read African) and ignored the south of the Caroni (read Indian.) "

That's such an ignorant and racist point. As if up north hardly has any indo-trinis or down south hardly have afro-trinis.

Mostly afros in north, and indos in south. it's fact, not belief....

[Sundar]

south have almost even distribution... maybe areas in south concentrated but even out by now

[brainchild]

innocent question here...doesn't d fact dat Manning is from south (native, mp & resident) prove dat it wasn't personal?

[orangefox]

Her argument is that the PNM concentrated its efforts on the development of the north of the Caroni (read African) and ignored the south of the Caroni (read Indian.) "

That's such an ignorant and racist point. As if up north hardly has any indo-trinis or down south hardly have afro-trinis.

I think all intelligent ppl know that there are indos in North and afros in south also. But the term is really code to ignite racial divisions in the simple minded crowd that are the core of the party voters.

Orangefox, you have used this south of the caroni bridge term many a times....
i am from south, and i have lived the neglect, the only time we saw development was wen pnm out of power. and as far as racism goes, simple as urp jobs were racially biased when selecting ppl to get work. real dutty and low. women had to slp around with councillors to get a lil checker wuk. but say what Great is the PNM

Ok ..

Just amazed at the distinction .. But I get your point ... Lol

[zoom rader]

innocent question here...doesn't d fact dat Manning is from south (native, mp & resident) prove dat it wasn't personal?

PNM is bigger than Manning. The Racist in that party pull the strings .

[brainchild]

So wat do u believe then? Dat d pp is not racially biased or dat d bias working in ur favour this rounds and dat makes it better?

[zoom rader]

So wat do u believe then? Dat d pp is not racially biased or dat d bias working in ur favour this rounds and dat makes it better?

If you check around you would have noticed that they PP have developed the neglected areas by the PNM.
They brought these areas up to parr with the the developed areas.
PNM idea of development was smelters.
PP development is people first where all citizens and illegal immgrants are benefiting.

I am sure your quality of life and the ppl that you know have improved. Now think back what was your life like under PNM.

[brainchild]

I haven't noticed any changes I'd attribute to govt...but dats unimportant. I agree dat the pp has touched previously untouched areas, but isn't dat their job? I don't get why we keep praising and bashing govts based on d most basic part of their jobs. That's like judging the police solely on their ability to direct traffic while crimes remain unsolved. What about all d scandals, blatant corruption (which no one with common sense can deny), allegations of corruption, shifty legislation, waste of tax payers money thru dependency promoting programmes?
I guess I would be classed as a swing voter bcos I don't just pledge allegiance and follow blindly, I'm willing to vote for whoever can get d job done right. But it's high time we stop bickering about these petty issues and start coming out as trinis and calling for proper legislation, an update of the archaic ones we still have in place and more. That's wats holding us back. Tell me I'm wrong!