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Armoured vehicles necessary?

Postby j.o.e » September 10th, 2014, 7:20 am

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Fir ... 57871.html

THE NATIONAL Security Min­istry is taking its fight against crime in this country “to the next level”, with the purchase of armoured personnel carriers that can withstand high-powered rifles and grenades.

In an article entitled “Firepower”, published in March, the Express exclusively reported more than 20 specially outfitted armoured vehicles, including armoured sports utility vehicles (SUVs) and armoured personnel carriers (APCs), would arrive in Trinidad and Tobago soon to assist the country’s law enforcement in the fight against crime.

Citizens yesterday got their first glimpse of an APC in a poster from the Ministry of National Security, posted on social media site Facebook.

“We’re taking our fight to

the next level,” the poster stated.

“Our defences are only as good as our personnel defending you. The armoured personnel carrier will protect the troops from today’s high-powered rifles, grenades and explosives, in hostile and potentially hazardous conditions, and allow them to reach their objectives on time and ready to perform their operation,” it stated.

The ministry said it will supplement the Trinidad and Tobago Defence Force’s fleet “with these types of vehicles, for use by our protective services”.

“Protecting you in times of unrest,” the poster stated.

“The plan is to fight fire with fire and go into the ulti­mate hotspot areas and take the fight back to the so-called gang leaders who actually have the impression that certain areas and communities belong to them,” National Security Minister Gary Griffith said in an interview with the Express when the story was published.

“We will be going in very hard with clinical precision, with a special operation group,” Griffith said.

And if this is for hotspot use...so many?

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Re: Armoured vehicles necessary?

Postby zoom rader » September 10th, 2014, 7:31 am

Dat for laventille and Beethamites

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Postby kdere » September 10th, 2014, 7:42 am

Fact of the matter is this is unnecessary unless they are actually gonna start a literal 'war' on criminals, and just start riding up in laventille and shooting whoever they see gaping. The only people who does destroy police vehicles are officers with their 'tactical driving'.

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Postby eliteauto » September 10th, 2014, 7:42 am

Really? Assuming that is the same size as Amalgamated's armoured vehicles, that going up Laventille?

Better yet in an all out "war" in such areas ZR how does this help in tacking a militia/guerrilla style battle?

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Postby sonygoup » September 10th, 2014, 7:47 am

Look how more banks gonna get rob :roll:

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Postby Habit7 » September 10th, 2014, 7:48 am

Tackling white collar crime that fueling the drug industry, drones to patrol our borders, long range naval assets to discourage drug and human smuggling and high speed fixed aircraft to chase air drops, will all have to wait....




...we fighting the citizens first.

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Postby bluefete » September 10th, 2014, 7:52 am

Habit7 wrote:Tackling white collar crime that fueling the drug industry, drones to patrol our borders, long range naval assets to discourage drug and human smuggling and high speed fixed aircraft to chase air drops, will all have to wait....




...we fighting the citizens first.


THIS x 100 million.

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Postby bluefete » September 10th, 2014, 7:55 am

52 Armoured Vehicles??????????????????? Really? To fight who exactly?

Roget and the trade unions when they are protesting?

In addition to the Constitution Amendment Bill, this government is taking no chances in its effort to stay in power for the next 100 years.

If the runoff does not work, is big guns in allyuh pweffen!

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Postby rfari » September 10th, 2014, 7:59 am

eliteauto wrote:Really? Assuming that is the same size as Amalgamated's armoured vehicles, that going up Laventille?

Better yet in an all out "war" in such areas ZR how does this help in tacking a militia/guerrilla style battle?


Same thing I thinking. Last time I checked almost all the roads in laventille and morvant narrow AF. It could prolly make mas in beetham.

In any case, it seems as tho they expecting something. Hope they ready

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Postby bluefete » September 10th, 2014, 7:59 am

Like the gubment also preparing for ISIS.

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Postby bluefete » September 10th, 2014, 8:01 am

rfari wrote:In any case, it seems as tho they expecting something. Hope they ready


If they going and try to thief an election, they must be prepared for the repercussions!!

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Postby pete » September 10th, 2014, 8:04 am

Did they get this idea from watching the coverage of the Ferguson riots?

If so then they should have also seen the outrage of actually having these vehicles in the police force there.

SMH.. hopefully they change their mind. I don't see this being necessary.

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Postby Habit7 » September 10th, 2014, 8:06 am

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Typical Beetham Gardens street...good luck

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Postby pete » September 10th, 2014, 8:07 am

bluefete wrote:
rfari wrote:In any case, it seems as tho they expecting something. Hope they ready


If they going and try to thief an election, they must be prepared for the repercussions!!


So who will the ousted government get to put in these vehicles and who will they stage this war against? Do you really think that is what these would / could be used for?

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Postby moses_boss12 » September 10th, 2014, 8:12 am

bluefete wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Tackling white collar crime that fueling the drug industry, drones to patrol our borders, long range naval assets to discourage drug and human smuggling and high speed fixed aircraft to chase air drops, will all have to wait....




...we fighting the citizens first.


THIS x 100 million.



THIS X 1000 MILLION

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Postby kjaglal76v2 » September 10th, 2014, 8:21 am

and ppl does call pro govt persons sheep!!

how d phoq u ppl cud b against anything proposed to fight crime?

plz share your bright ideas with us

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Postby rfari » September 10th, 2014, 8:28 am

kjaglal76v2 wrote:and ppl does call pro govt persons sheep!!

how d phoq u ppl cud b against anything proposed to fight crime?

plz share your bright ideas with us

Light aircraft with strobes and siren to fight crime

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Postby toyolink » September 10th, 2014, 8:32 am

This type of equipment has proven to be essential in the protective and intradiction activities in most countries.
The configuration of the units need to be relevant to our operating environment as many have observed and a fleet of 52 is quite excessive.

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Postby civicman » September 10th, 2014, 8:35 am

An they say the jooostisss mentality only on the beetham.
It look like they get mouse and kb now.
The most stupid line of thinking and conversation here.

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Postby RBphoto » September 10th, 2014, 8:37 am

kdere wrote:Fact of the matter is this is unnecessary unless they are actually gonna start a literal 'war' on criminals, and just start riding up in laventille and shooting whoever they see gaping. The only people who does destroy police vehicles are officers with their 'tactical driving'.


This.

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Postby 16 cycles » September 10th, 2014, 8:42 am

gonna watch Raid:Redemption after reading this story...

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Postby kjaglal76v2 » September 10th, 2014, 8:44 am

what percent of police vehicles get destroyed by officers??

since allyuh have the figures nah

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Postby kaylex » September 10th, 2014, 8:44 am

Paramilitaries ..lol

So a large community is under siege since 2011 soe.. remains that way
we release the dogs of war..
we attempted to pass legislation to have army with arrest powers.
we paint the picture that crime is only committed by one group of citizens
we continue fail to look at white collar crimes
buy 30 armoured vehicles for TTPS
who have carried out in excess of 34 extra judicial killings of citizens


we looking real good in international eyes man

Manning and crew before did the same level of ass.
buy a set of party tricks and copters ..

spend my money ... employ yuh party hacks.. procurement of these vehicles more than likley by some business associate of the govt...
same sheit different day oui...

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Postby hustla_ambition101 » September 10th, 2014, 8:44 am

Officers have to be fighting with rats and roaches for desk space and they buying mini tanks.....I wonder if every law enforcement officer has a properly functioning firearm and a proper bulletproof stabproof vest

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Postby rfari » September 10th, 2014, 8:46 am

Dogs of war
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Postby kjaglal76v2 » September 10th, 2014, 8:48 am

:rofl:

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Re: Armoured vehicles necessary?

Postby src1983 » September 10th, 2014, 9:04 am

Yup it is, when them beethamites holding the country at ransom, pull up with a few of that and unleash rubber bullets on every man woman and child.

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Postby Slartibartfast » September 10th, 2014, 9:07 am

moses_boss12 wrote:
bluefete wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Tackling white collar crime that fueling the drug industry This is by far the most important. This is also the one thing that will not happen because it's like telling criminals to persecute themselves when they know they getting away with it.

, drones to patrol our borders, Good idea to supplement the other forms of enforcement, but it can't work alone.

long range naval assets to discourage drug and human smuggling, We have these in our coast guard (Offshore patrol vessels) as well as the smaller, quicker speedboats (1000HP interceptors... yes 1000HP, 4x250HP engines) for coastal patrol. The problem here is that it is alleged that some coastal officers tip off the traffickers so they are able to avoid the vessels.

and high speed fixed aircraft to chase air drops, will all have to wait....

...we fighting the citizens first.


THIS x 100 million.



THIS X 1000 MILLION


THIS X 10,000 MILLIONS

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Re: Armoured vehicles necessary?

Postby Habit7 » September 10th, 2014, 9:07 am

For all you who are getting giddy at the hope of these behemoths somehow maneuvering through the narrow hilly streets of Laventille, Morvant and Belmont, be aware that there might be a change of govt. When they show up in the South Trinidad biannual burn tyre road protest I hope you guys don't mind.

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