Advice for new car, Jetta, New Mazda 3, Cerato or Elantra?

[dutch2004]

Thanks for feedback fellas.

Good perspectives all around which is what I wanted and I wont even entertain a big hard back man that cant understsnd the 'request for opinions'...in the age of the internet and reviews on a million websites..ever heard of seeking reviews on amazon for electronics or consumer reports on cars?Tuner is primarily a car site....soooooo I sought opinions on ......bump ba da dummmmm...carsssssss

Breds sometimes I really have to wonder....smh....a man asking if im a woman because I sought real world feedback from owners?......

Thank jah for the sensible and cogent responses so far from the few dudes who made sense in their responses.

I rather watch men debate resale value then have to damage my eyesight with what I just read...

For the fellas who gave opinions and listed cars...and those who pmd info on their real world ownership of the vehicles thanks much and bless up...It is very helpful...

Too j.o.e...check that thing called the internet out...its amazing. ..you can learn stuff from asking complete strangers...what next....a small stick that can make fire....mind blown...MAYBE...THAT JUST MIGHT BE THE PURPOSE OF A FORUM...OPINIONS. ......SHEESH

[j.o.e]

So out of all those completely different vehicles, which one you 'like'?
Or is that what forum members like that matters? Have u driven them?

[kurpal_v2]

I hear a tuner does get paid to endorse a certain automotive group.

Free service for his auto and thing, just for sending pm to ops of these kinda threads.

[dutch2004]

Interesting kurpal....hmmmm

[tourniquet]

OP, to be fair though, you did post this in the Ole Talk section :/
The vitara is the oddball in that group, any reason why it's even in there?
take a browse through the individual subforums on here and you'll get a better idea on general issues with the respected brands.

[dutch2004]

Old talk can have sense in it bro and thanks for feedback. I been in tuner since 2004 and plenty intellectual debates in said old talk section...I dont mind debate or even objection but somethings must get a big hard back man to shake his head. Plenty of the replys were valid...helpful and some men was in kicks. ..but at least they contributed. ...you gave a valid observation on the vitara...nuff said...

[pete]

Swift sport! (Hoping I could get free servicing too)

[dutch2004]

Lol pete haha goodluck

[ALIS]

I would tend of late to support the Korean vehicles, the edge being on Kia.

Reasoning:
While the Japanese manufacturers and plants are busy following European styling and technology as to what the make available in their vehicles that were once considered premium options, The Koreans have gone the step further and incorporated all these bells and whistles that were previously found in general euro models and as premium order options for Japanese models.

The Kia and Hyundai marques have taken oven the marketing edge simply because they stood back and took note of their competition (while taking away a few of their key design employees) and have found favor with a large following who previously would have never set foot in a Korean vehicle.

Yes SSS service sucks, but so too does N&M, Toyota and almost everyone else. If you do not pay attention to your own vehicle and seek your interest in knowing what you are paying for, then thats up to you.

Parts wise, I will give SSS a thumbs up for at least having parts for the Kia..... Can't say the same for N&M as they depend sometimes on third party imports for their stock.

All in all, the Kia's I have tested (cerato too) have given more than ample power, response, handling and overall creature comforts and ergonomics. I would even say that in some areas it is on par with some euro models without all the price tags.

We need to get out of the mindset that Toyota is the best thing since the Flintstones mobile and everything top notch is an Euro.

Every car, regardless of make/model depreciates the minute it is plated, Euros being the fastest due to increasing mtce cost over prolonged ownership/usage.

According to your listing, I would go for the Cerato..... best value for money, comfort and amenities... and down the road, at least your residual value is fair when you take into consideration the depreciation factor with usage over time owned, overall cost with interest to acquire over said time and mtc cost.


my ten cents....
If you are one of those that look to get a high resale value on a car after 3-5 or even seven years use, then you dont need to buy a car, you need to invest in land!

[dutch2004]

ALIS BRO....you win...thanks man and makes sense...and meh lawd....u made sense in the fricking ole talk forum....be careful....u may get kicked

[pioneer]

So what happens to a kia/hyundai after 5 years?

I know of a hyundai graveyard, all packed with 2009 models that can't get parts.

It even have ah chuna and SSS tell him dem doh stock parts for he ole PBS kia.

[kjaglal76v2]

i understand what you are implying but what i am trying to say is EFF RESALE
if im spending 200k i will damn well get my 200k worth of enjoyment out of it

buh you nvr buy a vehicle for ~200k,so, nobody cares about your opinions dude

[mango_chow]

Jetta is hot!!

Mazda 3 is sweet.

Stay away from Hyundai and Kia.

[kjaglal76v2]

Corolla ftw

[pioneer]

At least japanese cars from years back still around

Wey de koreans?

Bubblin ah pelau somewey?

[brams112]

i understand what you are implying but what i am trying to say is EFF RESALE
if im spending 200k i will damn well get my 200k worth of enjoyment out of it

I hear ya. I have sufferer problems.

But it could be worse.
Men who buying local s13 10 years ago for 40K and now calling 140K for it

Them men feel because they spend a 100k's behind it over the years it still worth it oui .Anyway opie go with what you can afford,ask people who own the cars you are asking about what are their views.

[VexXx Dogg]

Easier to not give a firetruck about resale now. Time to sell, ah go hear alyuh.

[Ted_v2]

So what happens to a kia/hyundai after 5 years?

I know of a hyundai graveyard, all packed with 2009 models that can't get parts.

It even have ah chuna and SSS tell him dem doh stock parts for he ole PBS kia.

Pretty much truth.
They only stock a certain amount of parts. After which they don't restock parts. Would recommend something that you can easily source parts on the outside of the firm.

[ALIS]

So what happens to a kia/hyundai after 5 years?

I know of a hyundai graveyard, all packed with 2009 models that can't get parts.

It even have ah chuna and SSS tell him dem doh stock parts for he ole PBS kia.

Pretty much truth.
They only stock a certain amount of parts. After which they don't restock parts. Would recommend something that you can easily source parts on the outside of the firm.

But that's the same issue with every firm! So whats the deal? If the issue was spare parts 5-7 years down the road, then we would all be in sh!t street if it wasn't for FU parts, aftermarket parts, taiwan parts etc.

Thing is, even with the brand new cars, most companies don't have the full compliment of parts yet, why you think alot of new cars get written off for sometimes small accidents?

[kurpal_v2]

Rock auto ihmc

[brams112]

So what happens to a kia/hyundai after 5 years?

I know of a hyundai graveyard, all packed with 2009 models that can't get parts.

It even have ah chuna and SSS tell him dem doh stock parts for he ole PBS kia.

Remember going to N&M years ago to buy a simple part for a h100 pickup,guy told me once a new vehicle crosses five years they stop stocking parts.

[dutch2004]

Anyone know price of new mazda 3 and what size engine and gear box? Someone told me the pricing on tuner is for the older model. Heard the sky active is peppy and great on gas...if we are getting it

[kurpal_v2]

Anyone know price of new mazda 3 and what size engine and gear box? Someone told me the pricing on tuner is for the older model. Heard the sky active is peppy and great on gas...if we are getting it

We getting a model with sky active badging. Was discussed in the new car thread

[kjaglal76v2]

So what happens to a kia/hyundai after 5 years?

I know of a hyundai graveyard, all packed with 2009 models that can't get parts.

It even have ah chuna and SSS tell him dem doh stock parts for he ole PBS kia.

Pretty much truth.
They only stock a certain amount of parts. After which they don't restock parts. Would recommend something that you can easily source parts on the outside of the firm.

But that's the same issue with every firm! So whats the deal? If the issue was spare parts 5-7 years down the road, then we would all be in sh!t street if it wasn't for FU parts, aftermarket parts, taiwan parts etc.

Thing is, even with the brand new cars, most companies don't have the full compliment of parts yet, why you think alot of new cars get written off for sometimes small accidents?

u are so misinformed, u cud go diamond motors & get parts easily for CK lancers & EK civics etc

[kjaglal76v2]

So what happens to a kia/hyundai after 5 years?

I know of a hyundai graveyard, all packed with 2009 models that can't get parts.

It even have ah chuna and SSS tell him dem doh stock parts for he ole PBS kia.

Remember going to N&M years ago to buy a simple part for a h100 pickup,guy told me once a new vehicle crosses five years they stop stocking parts.

bcuz issa hyundai, i sure dey have plenty frontier parts etc

[pioneer]

Even if the company doesn't have a jap part, someone outside will. There are many people who stock genuine japanese parts other than the firm. I think that is common knowledge by now.

If people want more proof of it, they can refer to Toyota and Nissan vehicles from the 80's still running on the road today.

Who stocks parts outside the korean dealerships?

Who even stocks foreign used korean parts?

Plenty koren vehicle either park up or running nissan engine and suspension.

Where de korean vehicles from de 80's?

[acesinghit]

My unbiased opinion is:

1st. Jetta/2014 Octavia
3rd. Focus/cruze/mazda3
6th. Lancer/civic/impreza
9th. Corolla/elantra/cerato/sentra

[MG Man]

Funny how ppl still harping on korean cars from 15 years ago. Is it really fair to compare a PBA accent with a new one?
I used to think I was narrow minded with my love of old cars, but this new breed of nannytwat fanboys is the worst :-/
Is it so hard to accept that the underdogs are now legitimate game changers?

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

IB Allergic and Acehingit say VW is the best!!!!

My unbiased opinion is:

1st. Jetta/2014 Octavia
3rd. Focus/cruze/mazda3
6th. Lancer/civic/impreza
9th. Corolla/elantra/cerato/sentra

OP best advice is go out and drive each. Only you know what you looking for. Each vehicle has its strengths and (potential) weaknesses. You value super over premium? Part pricing? Maintenance costs? You like speed? Ease of modifying? Interiors matter? etc.

When you post up what you like then maybe tuner might be of better service. Until then you will most likely get recommendations of what each tuner bought and justifications of why *they* bought it. Also post up your limit on vehicle purchase cost. For all you know you might be missing out on a potential vehicle cuz no-one knows your price limit.

Also service stinks in all dealerships. There is no one best dealer for servicing. There are horror stories from all as well as experiences from users with no issues with all dealerships.

[ALIS]

Funny how ppl still harping on korean cars from 15 years ago. Is it really fair to compare a PBA accent with a new one?
I used to think I was narrow minded with my love of old cars, but this new breed of nannytwat fanboys is the worst :-/
Is it so hard to accept that the underdogs are now legitimate game changers?

Same thing I am saying MG..... funny thing is, now even japanese die hard fans will buy a korean car as a daily driver, because of the cost and comfort features that come as standard these days. Ever notice how more and more japanese cars start looking like their korean competition?

In my view, and this is just aside from the original topic at hand..... the chinese vehicles of today are just about where the korean vehicles were about 15-20 years ago or so...