plz delete

[AFFORDABLE AUTO ADS]

thanks...plz delete.

[VexXx Dogg]

Not an attack. A one man show means that they may be vulnerable if you decide to leave. An audit is simply a third party review of what is in place for charting the way forward.

An analogy is E&Y Audits of company finances, do you think the company accountant feels slighted or that they don't trust him?

Normal part of business. If you're really that uncomfortable, leave.

[DFC]

U on contract?

Sometimes you gotta cut your losses and go bruh.

Start keeping copies of everthing you created and all the policies implemented etc. It will be to your benefit later.

Start looking for another job. Send resumes and dont password protect everything before you leave please.
Our IT guy set passwords for everything and was caught stealing from the company and when we let him go it was ketchass after to access documents and even to get in the server.

The IT market saturated and it real real qualified but unemployed men out there who will grasp at any job.

Cutting costs and saving money is the perogative of management and they found someone to do your job cheaper than you....so in essence you screwed.

[AllTrac]

Really sorry you have to go through this bro, thats the downside of working for a family owned company.
Im sure the reason for the audit could be one of the following:
a) Management needs to understand the level of additional work you are doing and getting a 3rd party involved is the only logical step, that way they can then layout a pay package for you based on what their auditors report. They cannot just take your word for it.

b) They need some type of reason to shoot down your offer when negotiating your salary based on your claims.

c) they gonna subcontract out IT and you are fcuked.

[Redman]

^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's all you need op.

[Mark!]

well dude the reality is that they are the ones paying you and if you find you are being taken advantage or things aint how it was when you started, then i suggest you fill your resume with all that stuff and start looking else where. At the end of the day they see it as you can be easily replaced by some new young punk trying to prove them self.

[VexXx Dogg]

Yep, next thing you know after the audit they propose an increase in your salary or the addition of staff to help with your duties.

But the fact that you intercepted a mail that was not meant for your viewing does not reflect well on your behalf.

[DFC]

Also lemme guess here...API or Jokhan?

[AllTrac]

Btw, its time to start Project CYA - Cover Your A$$

this means get rid of all cracked server software
all bootleg copies
pirated software
apply legit licenses
ensure all your software (corporate anti virus etc) is updated
go through IT policy and make sure you are in accordance
go through firewall logs
Ensure you have a properly documented backup procedure and all tapes are working
etc etc

We do this yearly, with a local company and a foreign auditor by parent company request, i only initiate Project CYA when its time to do a foreign audit, dem fcukers doh play

[AFFORDABLE AUTO ADS]

Not an attack. A one man show means that they may be vulnerable if you decide to leave. An audit is simply a third party review of what is in place for charting the way forward.

An analogy is E&Y Audits of company finances, do you think the company accountant feels slighted or that they don't trust him?

Normal part of business. If you're really that uncomfortable, leave.

You make sense my friend, but i am saying this, the man that build your infrastructure you cant compensate him? After asking humbly for my just due this is what you decide to do? Along with 7 certificates i have my bachelors and this is what i get? Leaving appears to be the sensible solution!...Thank you for you input!

[VexXx Dogg]

Kronik pain, I was once in a similar position, it's hard to think objectively at this point.

Let's put it this way. I eventually left the organization, now they pay me consultancy fees if they need my services. Hourly or part thereof.

Make sure your professional credibility can stand up to the audit. Leave on your own terms, clearly you are not comfortable there.

[AFFORDABLE AUTO ADS]

U on contract?

Sometimes you gotta cut your losses and go bruh.

Start keeping copies of everthing you created and all the policies implemented etc. It will be to your benefit later.

Start looking for another job. Send resumes and dont password protect everything before you leave please.
Our IT guy set passwords for everything and was caught stealing from the company and when we let him go it was ketchass after to access documents and even to get in the server.

The IT market saturated and it real real qualified but unemployed men out there who will grasp at any job.

Cutting costs and saving money is the perogative of management and they found someone to do your job cheaper than you....so in essence you screwed.

Thanks my friend. However that guy was not nice to ya'll. I am not like that at all. However the difference with me now is this, i didn't meet systems...i met a guy (the nephew) who is 'tinkerer'...not a real IT professional...no qualifications whatsoever. I created databases from scratch that supports our daily operations as well as a very complicated one to support our top client! This took several months to complete and was very difficult as i had to learn their operations and align it with ours...I know other ppl can do what you do but it is still a bit different. Anyway i think i am leaving. Thank you again!

[DFC]

Btw our IT guy got rid of MS Office and put open office . No license and no trial version.

Works the same .

[AFFORDABLE AUTO ADS]

U on contract?

Sometimes you gotta cut your losses and go bruh.

Start keeping copies of everthing you created and all the policies implemented etc. It will be to your benefit later.

Start looking for another job. Send resumes and dont password protect everything before you leave please.
Our IT guy set passwords for everything and was caught stealing from the company and when we let him go it was ketchass after to access documents and even to get in the server.

The IT market saturated and it real real qualified but unemployed men out there who will grasp at any job.

Cutting costs and saving money is the perogative of management and they found someone to do your job cheaper than you....so in essence you screwed.

Btw i am permanently employed.

[pioneer]

They can't even spell procedures.

[AFFORDABLE AUTO ADS]

Really sorry you have to go through this bro, thats the downside of working for a family owned company.
Im sure the reason for the audit could be one of the following:
a) Management needs to understand the level of additional work you are doing and getting a 3rd party involved is the only logical step, that way they can then layout a pay package for you based on what their auditors report. They cannot just take your word for it.

b) They need some type of reason to shoot down your offer when negotiating your salary based on your claims.

c) they gonna subcontract out IT and you are fcuked.

Well said, thanks!

[AFFORDABLE AUTO ADS]

well dude the reality is that they are the ones paying you and if you find you are being taken advantage or things aint how it was when you started, then i suggest you fill your resume with all that stuff and start looking else where. At the end of the day they see it as you can be easily replaced by some new young punk trying to prove them self.

ahahah....i like this one...well bro, i am young 30 years...bin here since 22 and sensible businesses don't let go quality or take it for granted. Thanks for your comments.

[AFFORDABLE AUTO ADS]

Yep, next thing you know after the audit they propose an increase in your salary or the addition of staff to help with your duties.

But the fact that you intercepted a mail that was not meant for your viewing does not reflect well on your behalf.

Well actually i was working at a manager's computer and the mail came in...it was not intentional. Thanks for you comments.

[1UZFE]

Hoss u need for the owners to recognise your importance , as they see it u is jus another employee who gettin paid to do a wuk. If it means "not being in work" ie sick or vacation when something "goes down" or during a heavy period they wud see the importance of your work. Also you cud stick to your contract ie re inforce your working hours , do your stipulated hours, give excuses for your adherance to the working hours. Show the company that if they want you to go the extra mile they wud have to pay.
They jus get a donkey to ride , sorry 2 say.

[AFFORDABLE AUTO ADS]

Also lemme guess here...API or Jokhan?

Nah man...sando company

[DFC]

Check them employment agencies. Drop in your cv everywhere.

Also dont leave in bad terms eh. It does come back to haunt you.

[hong kong phooey]

pm this fella if you leaving he looking for an it job

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=532953&hilit=it+job

be sure to find a job before leaving, most companies outsourcing

[1UZFE]

U are permanent yes? Quick question are u in a union even though its a small company?

[nareshseep]

Become the consultant. Companies lack faith in there own it operations and will rather take the views of a consultant over yours. That's just the way things are in IT. You might have good intentions at heart but the market saturated as someone said and their thinking is that they can always get someone younger and cheaper.

[AFFORDABLE AUTO ADS]

Hoss u need for the owners to recognise your importance , as they see it u is jus another employee who gettin paid to do a wuk. If it means "not being in work" ie sick or vacation when something "goes down" or during a heavy period they wud see the importance of your work. Also you cud stick to your contract ie re inforce your working hours , do your stipulated hours, give excuses for your adherance to the working hours. Show the company that if they want you to go the extra mile they wud have to pay.
They jus get a donkey to ride , sorry 2 say.

Well said! Thank you!

[antlind]

Kronik don't quit your job because of an audit. It is very difficult to get IT work in Trinidad. I have been in IT for over 25 years and have been audited before. While an audit is painful, I have found that an audit often identifies areas where I can improve. It's a learning experience. If you run from a job because of an upcoming audit you will be forever changing jobs.
As one previous post stated, use the next few days to tidy up the environment and prepare yourself for the audit.
Hopefully you come out looking good and you get that raise you were asking for. It's better than quitting and having to look for another job.....that may not pay as well as the one you have.
My advice is to stick it out, prepare yourself for the audit, go through the audit, learn as much as you can from the audit and hopefully things will work out for you.
From your previous posts you don't come across as the type of guy to quit when the going gets tough, so hang in there.
This is my 'fatherly' advice to you.
Good luck with your decision.

[skylinechild]

my 0.02 cents....everyone knows the IT field saturated however most of these ppl are "google techs" and cant fix crap. most of these google techs graduate with a degree in computer sciences etc.

lastly audits are a normal thing where i work they audit us every year...each dept is done INDIVIDUALLY. cant run from audits think of it as a learning experience. it could be better- you get your salary and an assistant - or worse -you get screwed by the family...

lastly if you leave where are you going to get a better paying job cause i dont think you will settle for the same pay package - $9000 a month. it have ppl out there who WILL jump for your job( including me)

To put things in perspective i work for $5,500 a month. I work week days weekends nights and public holidays and yes shift....ive been in this job for 3 yrs - next month will make it 4 yrs i'm doing it....and they NOW decide to pay us over time. oh yea did i mention we DONT get shift allowance. and i'm on a month to month contract going on 3 - scratch that- 4 yrs now....welcome to my life...

as pete said above- implement the CYA procedures.

if you decide to leave make a list of issues and try to have them resolved -in a bid NOT to leave.
if they dont want to work with you- then time to go job hunting and remember always leave on good terms....

[AFFORDABLE AUTO ADS]

Kronik don't quit your job because of an audit. It is very difficult to get IT work in Trinidad. I have been in IT for over 25 years and have been audited before. While an audit is painful, I have found that an audit often identifies areas where I can improve. It's a learning experience. If you run from a job because of an upcoming audit you will be forever changing jobs.
As one previous post stated, use the next few days to tidy up the environment and prepare yourself for the audit.
Hopefully you come out looking good and you get that raise you were asking for. It's better than quitting and having to look for another job.....that may not pay as well as the one you have.
My advice is to stick it out, prepare yourself for the audit, go through the audit, learn as much as you can from the audit and hopefully things will work out for you.
From your previous posts you don't come across as the type of guy to quit when the going gets tough, so hang in there.
This is my 'fatherly' advice to you.
Good luck with your decision.

MOST appreciated!!! Thank you very much, will take your advice!

[AFFORDABLE AUTO ADS]

my 0.02 cents....everyone knows the IT field saturated however most of these ppl are "google techs" and cant fix crap. most of these google techs graduate with a degree in computer sciences etc.

lastly audits are a normal thing where i work they audit us every year...each dept is done INDIVIDUALLY. cant run from audits think of it as a learning experience. it could be better- you get your salary and an assistant - or worse -you get screwed by the family...

lastly if you leave where are you going to get a better paying job cause i dont think you will settle for the same pay package - $9000 a month. it have ppl out there who WILL jump for your job( including me)

To put things in perspective i work for $5,500 a month. I work week days weekends nights and public holidays and yes shift....ive been in this job for 3 yrs - next month will make it 4 yrs i'm doing it....and they NOW decide to pay us over time. oh yea did i mention we DONT get shift allowance. and i'm on a month to month contract going on 3 - scratch that- 4 yrs now....welcome to my life...

as pete said above- implement the CYA procedures.

if you decide to leave make a list of issues and try to have them resolved -in a bid NOT to leave.
if they dont want to work with you- then time to go job hunting and remember always leave on good terms....

Well said my friend. Might i ask you your duties for your salary? Based on my duties outlined in the post are you capable at $9000? Why i ask is cause i want to know your opinion as if it is fair for the amount of duties and the compensation. Hope you understand the question.

[AFFORDABLE AUTO ADS]

Become the consultant. Companies lack faith in there own it operations and will rather take the views of a consultant over yours. That's just the way things are in IT. You might have good intentions at heart but the market saturated as someone said and their thinking is that they can always get someone younger and cheaper.

Thank you and you are right!