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rollingstock wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:For police to act they need to have a report i believe.....
So unless a child or parent go in a station and make a report.....police can't intervene. They eh witness no crime taking place
Rollingstock could correct me
Police don't need someone to make a report if they know a crime is being committed to take action. But don't tell the majority of those lazy fcuks that.
But to be fair how a sting operation going to catch persons sexually abusing children unless they get very lucky to catch someone in the act.
What we need is radical laws, you abuse a child, we drag you in the streets and hack off limbs and leave your lifeless body for corbeau to eat, if you aware it going on and take no action same outcome.
pugboy wrote:not only that, most times the current perpetrators were also abused themselves so it is a continuing saga and they know how to play the games with the kids better than anybody else who has not lived that
People different.alfa wrote:pugboy wrote:not only that, most times the current perpetrators were also abused themselves so it is a continuing saga and they know how to play the games with the kids better than anybody else who has not lived that
I have my reservations about that one as everyone caught will blame a previous alleged abuser until someone will say Adam and Eve molested them. Besides if those horrible things were done to you wouldn't you be repulsed by it kinda like when women are raped and say they don't want a man to touch them again?
timelapse wrote:Or better yet, stop having so much fvckin chirren if you can't mind them.I find they should start a parent register when you doing birth registration.If you see EITHER of the parents having more than 3 children anywhere,snip snip.Thats the only way to stop people from fvckin around.One night of fun could create a life of suffering for another.
Forced sterilization would never happen. We talking about realistic solutions heretimelapse wrote:Or better yet, stop having so much fvckin chirren if you can't mind them.I find they should start a parent register when you doing birth registration.If you see EITHER of the parents having more than 3 children anywhere,snip snip.Thats the only way to stop people from fvckin around.One night of fun could create a life of suffering for another.
pugboy wrote:what is latest with paria divers ?
pugboy wrote:what is latest with paria divers ?
hover11 wrote:COPS TO QUESTION SEX ABUSE VICTIM
https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... ium=social
Man said Mr.X sexually assaulted him. What's the sense if you coming forward but not calling any names, all of a sudden everybody fraid to call names
Defamation only works or can be applied if it is a lie or untrue statement, if in fact the action occurred how can other party sue for DefamationPhone Surgeon wrote:hover11 wrote:COPS TO QUESTION SEX ABUSE VICTIM
https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... ium=social
Man said Mr.X sexually assaulted him. What's the sense if you coming forward but not calling any names, all of a sudden everybody fraid to call names
he is giving the names in a statement to the police service
the media cannot openly print it even though the name is all over on social media
you ever hear about slander/defamation?
Mmoney607 wrote:How can a group of civilians that have no constitutional power collect more information on crimes than the Trinidad police service.
Wasn't speaking of the media outlet because that is third party but if any of these victims come out and make a Facebook post or social media post and highlight the perpetrators then it is not defamatory as they are recounting their experience, which is what they should do and highlight it, the other party can't bring forward action as it is true, you know how many times I was threatened will defamation lawsuits from the gentlemen who imports cars oh gosh it affecting my business..still waiting for the pre action protocol letter..is to embarrass and shine them up that is what the victims need to come together and do. Unless names calling then this dead just like the diversPhone Surgeon wrote:if the media prints it at THIS point before any charges are laid and while its mere accusations then its defamation.
how do you know that in fact it occurred? were you the perpetrator? the victim? did you witness it?
spend some time with that free lawyer you have and learn some things na
Even if it is judge alone trial that judge will be biased.....them victims will never see justicepugboy wrote:will have a lot of juror bias too when names being called publicly
defence will say unfair trial
That's the thing everybody studying lawsuits and don't wanna get sued , half way in half way out . If you as the victim know what occurred call names and make it public. How can you continue living life watching these same persons in prestigious positions possibly doing the same to others like yourself. Coming out 25 years after the fact makes you an accomplice because is better they continued being quiet. If because of your defamation case, criminal charges can arise and these individuals can be brought before the courts then I say it would have been worth it.Phone Surgeon wrote:yes they can bring action and then the person would have to prove thats its true.
if someone make a post on facebook about how you in NIS stealing people $$$ and giving grants to your friends and family , you can take them to court for defamation and then they have to PROVE its true.
even if its true and they don't have proof, you will win.
Phone Surgeon wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:How can a group of civilians that have no constitutional power collect more information on crimes than the Trinidad police service.
they were given power to investigate
i skim through that whole report yesterday, didnt see any of the 2 names from Akiel Chambers incident named so i guess Sabga has his personal information that both things are linked
probably whoever was helping in granting the subventions to the schools had access to the kids as their perks
Justice is just, the wheels of justice turn slowly but they do turn. I was hasty to recover my funds but it worked out in the end cuz now the pressure on the individual to the point where he is calling me and begging to drop charges nearly everyday....never gonna happen but back to the matter at hand.Phone Surgeon wrote:easy for you to say as a outsider looking in
victims of abuse are often ostracized and have a stigma attached to them and are often victims of ridicule
persons don't want to be in relationships with abused persons,
a woman would be less likely to trust a man to be a father/her boyfriend/a husband if he was raped as a child
even now people would tell them "they look for it" or "they wanted it"
no doubt thats what many of the senior home staff would have told the children
another big part of it is, that sabga report have all the victims names
i sure it have people who realize that their friend/family are listed as a victim and if would think twice about trusting young children around them considering what the victim went through as a child
in court its like you getting abused all over again when the defence lawyer cross examining you
plus all the media attention
use yourself as an example hovie, when the man rob you the 40k and you realize police and fraud squad and court not taking you on, ent you message me to go the gangsta route to recover your money?
you yourself admit the legal system doesn't help so i not sure why you advocating for the court and legal process now
most people would have wanted to put this far behind them
seeing a few persons who have proper family support are coming out and talking about their experiences though
Mmoney607 wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:How can a group of civilians that have no constitutional power collect more information on crimes than the Trinidad police service.
they were given power to investigate
i skim through that whole report yesterday, didnt see any of the 2 names from Akiel Chambers incident named so i guess Sabga has his personal information that both things are linked
probably whoever was helping in granting the subventions to the schools had access to the kids as their perks
Given powers to investigate? That's what they want people to believe. They had no power. Not even a commission of enquiry could've got Abu bakr to come before it
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