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Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby maj. tom » January 1st, 2013, 11:16 am

Remember to bump this thread and not make a new one when this gets big in the news.


Comet ISON
Wikipedia article will be updated as more information is assessed and confirmed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2012_S1

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/28/us-space-comet-idUSBRE8BR0KQ20121228


The last comet to dazzle Earth's night-time skies was Comet Hale-Bopp, which visited in 1997. Comet 17P/Holmes made a brief appearance in 2007.




If the comet survives, that is.

Comet ISON could break apart as it nears the sun, or it could fail to produce a tail of ice particles visible from Earth.



Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) may also be visible to the naked eye when it is near perihelion in March 2013.

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » January 1st, 2013, 2:11 pm

A comet blazing toward Earth could outshine the full moon when it passes by at the end of next year -- if it survives its close encounter with the sun.

The recently discovered object, known as comet ISON, is due to fly within 1.2 million miles from the center of the sun on Nov. 28, 2013 said astronomer Donald Yeomans, head of NASA's Near Earth Object Program at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif.

As the comet approaches, heat from the sun will vaporize ices in its body, creating what could be a spectacular tail that is visible in Earth's night sky without telescopes or even binoculars from about October 2013 through January 2014.

If the comet survives, that is.

Celestial visitors like Comet ISON hail from the Oort Cloud, a cluster of frozen rocks and ices that circle the sun about 50,000 times farther away than Earth's orbit. Every so often, one will be gravitationally bumped out from the cloud and begin a long solo orbit around the sun.

On Sept. 21, two amateur astronomers from Russia spotted what appeared to be a comet in images taken by a 16-inch telescope that is part of the worldwide International Scientific Optical Network, or ISON, from which the object draws its name.

"The object was slow and had a unique movement. But we could not be certain that it was a comet because the scale of our images are quite small and the object was very compact," astronomer Artyom Novichonok, one of the discoverers, wrote in a comets email list hosted by Yahoo.

Novichonok and co-discoverer Vitali Nevski followed up the next night with a bigger telescope at the Maidanak Observatory in Uzbekistan. Other astronomers did likewise, confirming the object, located beyond Jupiter's orbit in the constellation Cancer, was indeed a comet.

"It's really rare, exciting," Novichonok wrote.

Comet ISON's path is very similar to a comet that passed by Earth in 1680, one which was so bright its tail reportedly could be seen in daylight.

The projected orbit of comet ISON is so similar to the 1680 comet that some scientists are wondering if they are fragments from a common parent body.

"Comet ISON…could be the brightest comet seen in many generations -- brighter even than the full moon," wrote British astronomer David Whitehouse in The Independent
http://www.weather.com/news/approaching-comet-moon-20121231

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby redmanjp » January 1st, 2013, 2:31 pm

so.. doomsday officially postponed to October 2013 :|

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby TeamH2O » January 1st, 2013, 2:46 pm

Here they go again

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby Halfbreed07 » January 1st, 2013, 9:10 pm

this seems familiar

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Postby Rooki3 » January 1st, 2013, 9:24 pm

sqw a bright light fly across d sky tonite, looked like a star moving, wasnt lookin like an aircraft bvuz no lights were blinkin, but it was travelling fast

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby dillonrps13 » January 1st, 2013, 11:38 pm

me tooo i saw it!!

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby X2 » January 1st, 2013, 11:50 pm

People still throwing fireworks eh... just saying...

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby maj. tom » January 1st, 2013, 11:53 pm

Sure it wasn't just an iridium (satellite) flare or the ISS?
Sat flares can have a magnitude of up to -9 sometimes.

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby Rooki3 » January 2nd, 2013, 7:26 am

that wasnt fireworks, was very high, brightness nvr faded, constant velocity across the sky

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » January 2nd, 2013, 10:04 am

would respond again in October.

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby bluestarz9 » January 2nd, 2013, 10:55 pm

hearing people talking about 2nd alien comming. u never know? maybe a higher intellegence being really is out there

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » January 2nd, 2013, 11:15 pm

Rooki3 wrote:that wasnt fireworks, was very high, brightness nvr faded, constant velocity across the sky
an iridium flare will brighten and then fade

it was more than likely the ISS - that tends to stay at constant velocity and brightness and it it moves quickly

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby Rooki3 » January 2nd, 2013, 11:23 pm

had to google "iss" :oops:

but dais real cool if it is indeed what i saw, had no idea that was visible from earth

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby ~Vēġó~ » January 2nd, 2013, 11:44 pm

gonna get my chair and get ready to sit and wait for it....

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby xaira » January 3rd, 2013, 7:48 am

So Artyom saved his station then went stargazing???? Gamers may get this reference...

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Postby zoelikescheese » January 3rd, 2013, 8:57 am

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby Country_Bookie » January 3rd, 2013, 11:22 am

Halley’s Comet was last here in 1985, not 1997.

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby Hook » January 3rd, 2013, 11:34 am

Country_Bookie wrote:Halley’s Comet was last here in 1985, not 1997.


They're two completely different comets, sir.

maj. tom wrote:Remember to bump this thread and not make a new one when this gets big in the news.


Comet ISON
Wikipedia article will be updated as more information is assessed and confirmed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2012_S1

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/28/us-space-comet-idUSBRE8BR0KQ20121228


The last comet to dazzle Earth's night-time skies was Comet Hale-Bopp, which visited in 1997. Comet 17P/Holmes made a brief appearance in 2007.




If the comet survives, that is.

Comet ISON could break apart as it nears the sun, or it could fail to produce a tail of ice particles visible from Earth.



Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) may also be visible to the naked eye when it is near perihelion in March 2013.

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby maj. tom » March 8th, 2013, 1:08 pm

8 March 2013 Last updated at 07:24 GMT
Bright comet 'lighting sky' as it flies by Earth
By Rebecca Morelle Science reporter, BBC World Service



Stargazers could enjoy a rare spectacle as a bright comet swings into the Northern Hemisphere.

The icy mass, called C/2011 L4 Pan-Starrs, should be visible with binoculars or a telescope from 8 March.

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This image of the comet was made when it was visible in the Southern Hemisphere, but now those in the Northern Hemisphere should get a chance to see the icy mass

But in the following days, it will become even brighter and could be seen with the naked eye.

Astronomers in the Southern Hemisphere have already been treated to a fly past, with reports that the body was as bright as stars in the Plough.

Mark Bailey, director of the Armagh Observatory in Northern Ireland, said: "We have great hopes for this comet. Of course we are always very cautious - even now we don't know how bright it is going to get - but we are keeping out fingers crossed."

Once in a lifetime

The comet was first discovered in June 2011, spotted by the Pan-Starrs telescope (hence its name) in Hawaii as a faint object more than a billion kilometres away.


Astronomers believe it originated in the Oort Cloud, a region of space packed full of comets, and has been hurtling towards the Sun for millions of years.

It is thought to be a non-periodic comet, which means this could be the first time it has ever passed through the inner Solar System, and it might not return for another 100,000 years.

On 10 March, it will make its closest approach to the Sun, passing at a distance of about 45 million kilometres.

As it heats up, the ice and dust in the Pan-Starrs' outer crust turn to gas, making it bright in the night sky. Solar wind and pressure from sunlight gives the body its characteristic double tail.

Prof Bailey said: "The closer you get to the Sun, the more of this material is ejected, and therefore the brighter the comet can be."

He said that the nucleus of the comet was estimated to be about 20-30km in diameter, but the gas and dust surrounding meant it could span more than a million kilometres.


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The comet will appear to move through the constellations of Pisces, Pegasus and Andromeda


The 12 and 13 March could provide the best viewing opportunity. At this time, it will move further from the Sun, but should be easier to spot in the night sky, providing it is a clear night.

"After sunset, scan the horizon roughly in the western direction. On the 12 and 13 March, there is a nice association with the thin crescent Moon," advised Prof Bailey.

"You can use the Moon as a guide, and search just down or to the left of the Moon. Through binoculars you should be able to see the head of the comet and certainly the two types of the tail."

He added: "I would always advise people to hunt for comets with binoculars, but if you have found it with binoculars, have a good hunt around and see if you can see it with the naked eye. That's quite a challenge - but it is a wonderful thing to have seen."

Why is this comet unusual? Watch the BBC's Rebecca Morelle explain

After this, the comet will begin to appear later and higher up in the night sky. And then, as April draws near, it will vanish back into the depths of space where it can only be seen with large telescopes.

If the weather proves poor during this period, astronomers could be offered another chance for a celestial delight at the end of the year when comet Ison should grace our skies.

Flying four times closer to the Sun than Pan-starrs, it could prove even brighter. But there is also a chance that it could break up.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21701641
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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby sliderz1 » March 8th, 2013, 1:54 pm

good.....i'll be looking

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Postby RangerBobby » March 8th, 2013, 2:38 pm

sliderz1 wrote:good.....i'll be looking



OLDER THE MOON BRIGHTER THE SHINE.....WUK WUK WUK IT...WUK WUK WUK IT...

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby sliderz1 » March 10th, 2013, 12:41 am

is that it? bright flickers, west sky...

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby maj. tom » March 10th, 2013, 12:48 am

nope. that's the binary star Sirius (A). It's the brightest star in the sky apparent mag -1.4.

a comet looks like a dusty streak of light that doesn't move or moves very slowly.

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby sliderz1 » March 10th, 2013, 1:08 am

couldnt spot it then... :(

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby original_lollybob » March 10th, 2013, 2:02 am

Mounts up telescope

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby maj. tom » March 12th, 2013, 1:53 am

Comet Pan-STARRS (C/2011 L4)

In the Northern Hemisphere:

"To see it, you will need an unobstructed, cloudless view of the western horizon. It is best to pick a dark spot, away from street lights," University of Hawaii's Institute for Astronomy wrote in a press release.

The comet should be visible in the direction of the setting sun just after the sun slips below the horizon. Twilight and moonlight may make viewing the comet difficult. The best opportunity to see it may be on March 13 when the comet appears just beneath a thin crescent moon, astronomers said.

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby SMc » March 13th, 2013, 5:37 pm

^^ I just missed it tonight as the moon has just gone 'down', will look again but this has been the first clear night in weeks and doubt to be so lucky again tomorrow :(

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Re: Approaching comet may outshine the moon October 2013

Postby V2NR 3.0 » March 13th, 2013, 6:44 pm

maj. tom wrote:Comet Pan-STARRS (C/2011 L4)

In the Northern Hemisphere:

"To see it, you will need an unobstructed, cloudless view of the western horizon. It is best to pick a dark spot, away from street lights," University of Hawaii's Institute for Astronomy wrote in a press release.

The comet should be visible in the direction of the setting sun just after the sun slips below the horizon. Twilight and moonlight may make viewing the comet difficult. The best opportunity to see it may be on March 13 when the comet appears just beneath a thin crescent moon, astronomers said.


Dude, tell us where to see this thing from Trinidad nah....

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