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Ethnic stocking

Postby nemisis » December 12th, 2012, 10:49 am

The Jamaica Observer newspaper has accused the Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar-led government of “ethnic stocking” and says this country is deluding itself about racial harmony. In an editorial yesterday, titled “The more important issue is abuse of substance,” the paper charged this country’s government not only with the ethnic stocking of public offices to consolidate its grip on political power, but also of the perception of widespread corruption.



“The real problem in the energy-rich republic is not substance abuse, but the abuse of substance. By that we mean the abuse of the substance of government business because of the ethnic stocking of public offices and the widespread perception of corruption.



“This year, on Transparency International’s Corruption Perception Index, T&T was ranked 80 out of 176 countries, down from 71 in 2011. In fact, Trinidad and Tobago scored 39 on a scale of 100, on par with Jamaica and behind the rest of the Caribbean islands.



“One of the egregious aspects of corruption is what is known as ‘ethnic stocking’—the appointment to public office, including overseas posts, on the basis of ethnicity to ensure ethnic monopoly of political power. “Notwithstanding Minister Jack Warner, the current Government of T&T has systematically practised ethnic stocking; rewarding individuals with positions even though they are not qualified, either by professional training or by pertinent transferable work experience.



“The instances of local appointments are too numerous to discuss, but the embarrassment associated with overseas appointees poses reputational damage. Ms Therese Baptiste-Cornelis was fired as ambassador to the United Nations, Geneva, after some inappropriate remarks. There was even a case of a diplomat assigned to the T&T High Commission in London being charged with conspiracy to traffic cocaine.



“Many people in T&T do not want to tackle ethnic stocking because persons who raise the issue are accused of being racist in a society guilty of self-delusion about racial harmony. “There needs to be a parliamentary review of appointees to local and overseas posts to ensure that they possess the necessary qualifications and years of pertinent experience, and to establish a transparent selection process free of ethnic bias.”



When the T&T Guardian contacted the Observer by telephone yesterday, the Jamaican newspaper’s executive editor of publication Vernon Davidson said he could not comment fully on the opinion, as he did not write it.
Davidson refused to divulge the identity of the editorial writer. Up to press time, Jamaican High Commissioner to T&T Sharon Saunders was out of office when the T&T Guardian called her for a comment.

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby Hook » December 12th, 2012, 10:58 am

buh dey eh lie...so whas all d beatinup about?

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby crazybalhead » December 12th, 2012, 10:59 am

Hook wrote:buh dey eh lie...so whas all d beatinup about?


*LIKE*

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby nemisis » December 12th, 2012, 11:02 am

i agree they ain't lie just posted it because i know there gonna be some weird responses for or against what was said, and by weird i mean dottish

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby Dizzy28 » December 12th, 2012, 11:10 am

IBZR!!

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby Crackpot » December 12th, 2012, 11:12 am

It easier to see the truth from the outside looking in.

At least they can't be accused of being PNM too so the truth will be told.

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby sliderz1 » December 12th, 2012, 11:27 am

IB lawsuit

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby nemisis » December 12th, 2012, 11:38 am

For real without the usual argument this is lies by the "input opposition name here" supporters i wondering what the new fall back argument going to be

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby Hook » December 12th, 2012, 11:38 am

nemisis wrote:i agree they ain't lie just posted it because i know there gonna be some weird responses for or against what was said, and by weird i mean dottish


nah meaintalkinbout you beatin' up eh, I talkin' abt d general "WHO SAY DAT?!" response to the article on the talk shows

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby MG Man » December 12th, 2012, 11:39 am

Crackpot wrote:It easier to see the truth from the outside looking in.

At least they can't be accused of being PNM too so the truth will be told.
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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby Hook » December 12th, 2012, 12:05 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby Dizzy28 » December 12th, 2012, 12:09 pm

^^ rofl!!!

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby Sky » December 12th, 2012, 12:35 pm

lol

The usual posters on that subject matter will stay away.....or post just because of my post.

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby rfari » December 12th, 2012, 1:12 pm

MG Man wrote:
Crackpot wrote:It easier to see the truth from the outside looking in.

At least they can't be accused of being PNM too so the truth will be told.

:rofl:

Just being devil's advocate here. Is it just a case of undoing years of what pnm did when it was in office?

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby moti » December 12th, 2012, 1:21 pm

it's always gonna be like that in a multi racial society where there are two main races that dominate the political region.

UNC in power will do it likewise PNM in power will do it, so whats the fuss about?

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby nemisis » December 12th, 2012, 1:30 pm

The only thing there to fuss about is that the positions going to individuals without at least the minimum qualifications to hold the post...

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby RBphoto » December 12th, 2012, 1:58 pm

I thought this was about a 2 foot long brown christmas stocking...

Thread title misleading....

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby Rooki3 » December 12th, 2012, 2:07 pm

dem still toting bcuz kamla let dem kno we en no wallet


leh deh pelt deh backward asses so

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby 1UZFE » December 12th, 2012, 2:13 pm

nemisis wrote:The only thing there to fuss about is that the positions going to individuals without at least the minimum qualifications to hold the post...

Really....
Na dat never happened in T&T... :twisted:

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby crazybalhead » December 12th, 2012, 2:21 pm

Rooki3 wrote:dem still toting bcuz kamla let dem kno we en no wallet


leh deh pelt deh backward asses so



:roll: :roll: :roll:

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby nemisis » December 12th, 2012, 2:28 pm

1UZFE wrote:
nemisis wrote:The only thing there to fuss about is that the positions going to individuals without at least the minimum qualifications to hold the post...

Really....
Na dat never happened in T&T... :twisted:

were you trying to make a point?
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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby Conrad » December 12th, 2012, 2:37 pm

MG Man wrote:
Crackpot wrote:It easier to see the truth from the outside looking in.

At least they can't be accused of being PNM too so the truth will be told.


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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby 1UZFE » December 12th, 2012, 2:38 pm

nemisis wrote:
1UZFE wrote:
nemisis wrote:The only thing there to fuss about is that the positions going to individuals without at least the minimum qualifications to hold the post...

Really....
Na dat never happened in T&T... :twisted:

we're you trying to make a point?

again. Really.....(no sarcasm this time/ no smiley either)
U fur real hoss?? Do u read your posts...
Re Read the posts, then re read your aforementioned post....

Neways both parties plays the race card for and against, look at Rowley in Debe and Jack in a Dhoti , Kams in African wear, the parliment have rel arses and will continue to have arses.

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby nemisis » December 12th, 2012, 2:48 pm

I never said both parties not guilty, what I said is if there is to be beating up then it should be about the unsuitability of the individuals not the fact they are appointed via bobol. So I didn't understand the point you were trying to make by re iterating it's common practice in Trinidad.

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby Rallyfignis » December 12th, 2012, 3:14 pm

This year, on Transparency International’s Corruption Perception Index, T&T was ranked 80 out of 176 countries, down from 71 in 2011. In fact, Trinidad and Tobago scored 39 on a scale of 100, on par with Jamaica and behind the rest of the Caribbean islands.


Journalist should have stopped right there, HHMC and delete the whole phoqing article...

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby Bizzare » December 12th, 2012, 3:38 pm

sorry to be off topic, but i now realize these are two different tuners.

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Carry on...

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Postby jm3 » December 12th, 2012, 6:19 pm

Bizzare wrote:sorry to be off topic, but i now realize these are two different tuners.

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Carry on...


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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby mango_chow » December 12th, 2012, 6:55 pm

What a waste of time. If you wanna bring the accusation of ethnic stocking, bring the evidence! 0X

What a joke compared to this under the PNM. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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And no, it's not just pulling a rabbit of a hat like the PNM, the best way is to name the people to support the claim. See below: :shock:

AIRPORTS AUTHORITY ---out of 11, 2 [1. Ramesh Lutchmedial, Director; and 2. Rosalind Chinnia-Ramadeen, Deputy General Manager (Operations, Crown Point)]. [http://www.tntairports.com/aat_members.html]

CARIBBEAN AIRLINES ---out of 8, 1 [1. Dr. Shafeek Sultan-Khan, Director]. [http://www.caribbean-airlines.com/au_cg.shtml]

DFL CARIBBEAN ---out of 13, 3 [1. Rodney Prasad, Director; 2. Stephen Singh, Director; and 3. Gilian Golah, Senior Manager (Corporate Executive Operations) and Company Secretary]. [http://www.dflcaribbean.com/board-of-directors.html and http://www.dflcaribbean.com/management.html]

ETECK ---out of 12, 2 [1. Nesha Kochhar, Vice President (Property Management); and 2. Henry Kumar, General Manager (ICT Project Implementation); maybe a 3rd [Eugene Tiah, Director].
[http://www.eteck.co.tt/1content/en/e_corp.aspx?articleid=94&zoneid=16 and http://www.eteck.co.tt/1content/en/e_co ... &zoneid=16]

FCB ---out of 25, 6 [1. Govind Maharaj, Director; 2. Inez B. Sinanan, Director; 3. Ramcharan Kalicharan, Chief Executive Officer (CMMB); 4. Lionel Seunarine, Asst. GM (Commercial Banking); 5. Shiva Manraj, Financial Controller (Finance and Planning); and 6. Harjoon Heeralal, Corporate Manager (Group Corp. Planning)] [https://www.firstcitizenstt.com/about/Corporate-Profile/Senior-Management-and-Directors/Board-of-Directors.html and https://www.firstcitizenstt.com/about/C ... ctors.html]

NAMDEVCO ---out of 6, 1 [1. Cintra Persad, Director] [http://www.namdevco.com/home.asp].

NATIONAL FLOUR MILLS ---out of 7, 2 [1. Ganesh Sahadeo, Chairman; and 2. Ross Alexander, Director].
[http://www.nfm.co.tt/Portals/3/images/annualreport/NFM_AR_2008.pdf]

NATIONAL GAS COMPANY ---out of 16, 4 [1. Lisle Ramyad, Director; 2. Winston Lalla, Director; 3. Rebecca Ramdhanie, Vice President (Finance and Information Management Group); and 4. Prakash Saith, President (National Energy Corporation)] [http://www.ngc.co.tt/About/directors.htm and http://www.ngc.co.tt/About/executive.htm]

NATIONAL INSURANCE BOARD: ---out of 17, 5 [1. Rudranath Indarsingh, Director; 2. Inez Sinanan, Director; 3. Seeram K. Maharaj, Director; 4. Karen Gopaul, Executive Manager (Planning and Technology); and 5. Niala Persad, Executive Manager (Legal Services/Corporate Secretary)]. [http://www.nibtt.co.tt/2009/NIB%20Annual%20Report%202%202%2009.pdf]

NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY ---out of 11, 5 [1. Chandrabhan Sharma, Chairman; 2. Vijay Birsingh, Director; 3. Nirad Samnadda-Ramrekersingh, Vice-President (Legal Services); 4. Lisa Chote, Vice President (Corporate Services); and 5. Michael Guyadeen, Vice President (Financial Services)]. [http://www.nidco.co.tt/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=51&Itemid=62] Note: This is the only organization on the list which meets the desired standard.

PETROTRIN ---out of 26, 9 [1. Harry Pirtheesingh, Director; 2. Ramnarine Ramdass, Director; 3. Kevin M. Singh, Vice President (Finance & Corporate Planning); 4. Khalid M. Hassanali, Vice President (Planning and Projects); 5. Narayan Ramtahal, General Manager (Central Engineering and Construction); 6. Steve Baldeosingh, General Manager (Production Operations); 7. Janice Koylass-Abraham, General Manager (Law & Land Management); 8. Sookdeo Heeralal, Ag. General Manager (Joint Ventures); and 9. Rajkumar Bissessar, Chief Audit Executive].
[http://www.petrotrin.com/Petrotrin2007/AnnualRep2007/AnnualReport2007/BoardOfDirectors.pdf and http://www.petrotrin.com/Petrotrin2007/ ... veteam.htm]

PORT AUTHORITY ---out of 48 (some of which are vacant), only 3 [1. Kiran Dass, Counterpart CFO; 2. Neil Bridgelal, Manager (Health Safety & Environment); and 3. Robert Ramsubhag, Equipment Manager].[http://www.patnt.com/ (click on "Our Company", then, "Corporate Structure"]

PTSC ---out of 21, 4 [1. Mahadeo Jagmohan, Director; 2. Zena Rahmatali, Director; 3. Philemon Subiah, Corporate Manager (Operations); and 4. Brian Juanette, Senior Project Engineer]. [http://www.ptsc.co.tt/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50&Itemid=83]

T&TEC ---out of 16, 4 [1. Professor Chandrabhan Sharma, Commissioner; 2. Zameer Mohammed, Commissioner; 2. Kelvin Ramsook, Asst. GM (Distribution); and 3. Ramdeo Sadhoo, Asst. GM (Human Resources)]. [http://www.ttec.co.tt/about_us/theboard/default.htm]

TSTT ---out of 16, 1 [1. Rakesh Goswami: Chief Financial Officer]; maybe a 2nd [2? Dianna de Sousa: Vice President Customer Service]? [http://tstt.co.tt/index.cfm?p=http://tstt.co.tt/about/personnel.cfm]

TTMF ---out of 19, 3 [1. Jaggernath Soom, Director; 2. Esther Rajpaul, Director; and 3. Waheeda A M Ali, Manager (Internal Audit)]. [http://www.ttmf-mortgages.com/applicationloader.asp?app=articles&id=760 and http://www.ttmf-mortgages.com/applicati ... les&id=761]

TTPOST ---out of 11, 0, zip, ningun, rien, nein! [http://www.ttpost.net/about.php?contentid=183 and http://www.ttpost.net/about.php?contentid=1173]

UDECOTT ---out of 11 , 3 [1. Dr. Krishna Bahadoorsingh, Director; 2. Neelanda Rampaul, Chief Operating Officer; and 3. Jassodra Gumansingh, Manager (Information Technology)].
[http://www.udecott.com/index.php/cc/cc_sub_level/C12 and http://www.udecott.com/index.php/cc/cc_sub_level/C13]

WASA ---out of 12, 2 [1. Dr. Shafeek G. A. Sultan-Khan, Chairman of the Board; and 2. Dion Abdool, Chief Corporate Officer] [http://www.wasa.gov.tt/WASA_AboutUs_board.html] and http://www.wasa.gov.tt/WASA_AboutUs_executive.html

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Oh yeah and talk about PNM bias again!! Talk about Racial bias.

Public servants win their appeals after ‘unfairly treated’ by PM
By ONIKA JAMES Thursday, July 9 2009

Two public servants — a foreign affairs officer, and the other, a State lands officer — yesterday won their appeals when the Appeals Court ruled they were “unfairly treated” by Prime Minister Patrick Manning.

Public Servant Feroza Ramjohn, was not allowed to take up a foreign diplomatic post in London, because of a report which stated she may have been “a security risk.”

Ramjohn who had been a career public servant with the Foreign Affairs Ministry for 38 years had served in the Permanent Mission to the United Nations, and the New York Consulate.

In the wake of drug trafficking allegations involving a diplomatic pouch between the London High Commission and the Ministry, certain persons were recalled from the London Mission to face criminal charges in Trinidad. On May 27, 2004, Ramjohn was summoned to a meeting and told she should make immediate plans to leave for London to assume a position in the London Mission. A letter was given confirming her appointment. As a result, Ramjohn promptly disposed of her belongings, served notice on her landlord, and completed a medical and psychological assessment.

However, as she was about to leave for London, she was informed that her transfer to London had been quashed by Prime Minister Manning. No reasons were given. It subsequently emerged that Ramjohn was being blamed for some 200 missing passports in circumstances which the Court of Appeal described yesterday as “purely circumstantial.”

Ramjohn was never before told of the allegations although being twice promoted since the incident in June, 2001.

Yesterday, the Appeal Court ruled that the Prime Minister treated Ramjohn “unfairly by blocking her transfer to London, without informing her that she was a considered threat to National Security. Ramjohn was never given an opportunity to clear her name, although having “an unblemished record of performance for over 35 years.”

The Appeal Court found that because the PM had a constitutional power to veto Ramjohn’s transfer, it did not give him an absolute right.

The veto it found, must be exercised fairly in accordance with the principles of natural justice. The court further declared that Ramjohn was a victim of “unfair treatment” by the Prime Minister. The other public servant, Ganga Persad-Kisson, had his promotion to Commissioner of State Lands vetoed by Prime Minister Manning, deeming he was “unfairly treated.

Persad-Kisson had applied for the vacant position in March, 2001. He was interviewed by the Public Service Commission, and had topped the interviews. He was also the most qualified and senior candidate for the job.

However, the Prime Minister vetoed Persad-Kisson’s position without giving reasons. The person second in line got the job.

Yesterday, the Appeal Court which comprised Chief Justice Ivor Archie, and Justices Margot Warner and Allan Mendonca, found Persad-Kisson was treated unfairly when he was bypassed for promotion, and that the PM was wrong to veto his promotion without telling him why. Ramjohn, the foreign affairs officer was represented by attorneys Dr Fenton Ramsahoye SC, and Anand Ramlogan.

Following the judgment Ramlogan, speaking to the media on the steps of the Hall of Justice in Port-of-Spain, called for the “removal of the power of veto.”

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Re: Ethnic stocking

Postby shogun » December 12th, 2012, 6:59 pm

Crackpot wrote:It easier to see the truth from the outside looking in.

At least they can't be accused of being PNM



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