Turf grass owners\landscape pple a min plz

[MonsterPower]

Ok I am planning out my front lawn and I plan to use the zoysia type grass,now thing is I got some pop up sprinklers that I plan to use but I seem to have come upon a stumbling block.

What layout do I use to install the sprinkler system ? Do I use an outward pattern or do I use an X pattern where I cross the sprinklers to eradicate any dry zone?Also how do I incorporate drip zones for plants along the perimeter of the lawn ?


Any help will be greatly appreciated.

[eliteauto]

I assume by drip zone here you mean in terms of irrigation systems? If so your best bet is to run a soaker hose along the perimeter ( presuming it's a flat area and you're doing border beds), you can have the hose set to a dedicated garden tap that you turn on, or set an automatic drip zone kit like the rainbird ones by Farfan. Do the sprinkler in X format , but if you haven't bought it yet I'd recommend soaker hoses for the entire lawn over a sprinkler system

[MonsterPower]

Thanks for the reply elite,and yes the yard is still in final prep stages b4 I plant the grass. I didn't know farfan carried the rain bird brand, I brought down mines from abroad.

What I was planning to do is take an existing outlet from the house and add three outlets with ball valves to each zone to control the flow and pressure .wanted to do a manual system until I could afford the automatic controllers and valves.right now I am concentrating on the in ground setup.
Only reason I bought the sprinklers were because they were the pop up kind and was cheap .
i think I will check farfan sometime this week.

[eliteauto]

turf needs consistent moisture, sometimes sprinkler systems don't penetrate the substructure because of how dense the matting of zoysia gets leaving you with dry spots hence my recommendation for soakers which are in the soil, soil prep before is important the last layers before planting should be a nice loamy loose mix ( some landscapers use sharpsand and soil mix) but I've seen lawns take forever to grow in that if the base soil is crappy or acidic, I use a mix of loose soil/manure/sawdust so there is good drainage, fertilization and looseness. Make sure there are no weeds/ nutgrass and always weed regularly whilst it's growing. BTW buy a lawn mover not a whacker/brush cutter for that eh Good luck

[pugboy]

zoysia requires the least amount of water of all lawn grasses
slowest growing too, much better than bermuda

[kaylex]

interesing... elite I am planning to grow a lawn next year so... ill hit u up then...

[MonsterPower]

turf needs consistent moisture, sometimes sprinkler systems don't penetrate the substructure because of how dense the matting of zoysia gets leaving you with dry spots hence my recommendation for soakers which are in the soil, soil prep before is important the last layers before planting should be a nice loamy loose mix ( some landscapers use sharpsand and soil mix) but I've seen lawns take forever to grow in that if the base soil is crappy or acidic, I use a mix of loose soil/manure/sawdust so there is good drainage, fertilization and looseness. Make sure there are no weeds/ nutgrass and always weed regularly whilst it's growing. BTW buy a lawn mover not a whacker/brush cutter for that eh Good luck

What i did is spread a layer of yellow limestone sand as a base and rolled it in to prevent any weeds from penetrating from the bottom layer,i am then going to mix promix,sharp sand ,sawdust and manure about 3" and let settle to create the top layer .when this is finished i will then rake in the zoysia seeds and let germinate .Hopefully if i am sucessful in a few months the grass will fully develop .

as for the lawnmower i just purchased this
http://www.lowes.com/pd_324209-270-12AK ... s_dollar|1

I aint crazy elite wont do all this work and spoil it with a wacker...

[pugboy]

how big is the area ?

germinating on the spot is real headache, I tried it before.
The problem is the seeds need to be just barely below the surface to germinate(2 weeks?) and will be easily washed away by the rain and eaten by birds.

much better to plant sprigs.
there is a guy on the forum who grows to sell at good price.

[MonsterPower]

if u rember i did a post a few months aback and noone respondd so i brought down a 5lb bag for myself last month .
the area is just over 900sq ft .. its seperated by a walkway making it a 1/3 and 2/3 areas .. what i plan to do o ensure i get maximum growth is to sprinkle the 1/3 area with the seed and i already planted a 2ftx2ft tray to get sprigs which i will try to plant and get it started .. i am trying to get all angles covered

i myself not sure how it is going to come out but i am willing to try and ensire all possibilities are covered

[r3iXmann]

Beware of mole crickets in the soil eh

[X2]

In...

[MonsterPower]

after the rolling and compaction of the soil mole crickets will find it hard to burrow

[r3iXmann]

after the rolling and compaction of the soil mole crickets will find it hard to burrow

yeah but they can/will migrate from other parts of the yard...happened to me -_-

[pugboy]

mole crickets is not a big problem, simple spraying with insecticide will handle that

pics of my attempt
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=348166&hilit=zoysia

[r3iXmann]

mole crickets is not a big problem, simple spraying with insecticide will handle that

that's what i thought initially..i sprayed several parts of the yard twice over the course of a few weeks and they ended up coming back

i just gave up and made a little rock garden (still incomplete).

[pugboy]

you have to space out the spraying to catch the ones which hatch later

[Bosse]

Anybody know a Good and effective weed killer to buy and where locally does sell it?

Like round up or sumin

To kill the Weeds in the lawn

[eliteauto]

you have to space out the spraying to catch the ones which hatch later

soap water does the trick

[r3iXmann]

you have to space out the spraying to catch the ones which hatch later

soap water does the trick

wont that contaminate the soil? i used diazinon (sp)

[eliteauto]

nope most soaps now break down in the soil, I had a lawn that was suffering from mole crickets (savannah grass) I did the typical spraying but it doesn't get the young ones or the eggs, I mixed buckets of soap water and soaked the lawn, within minutes both full grown and hatchling cricket were surfacing and dying, within weeks the entire lawn was regrown and with a urea treatment was green and lush again

[White CZ4A]

Beware of mole crickets in the soil eh

I love my zoisa grass.

but I have a SERIOUS cricket problem.
Tried tons of stuff..nothing works so far. The grass looks horrible nearly every morning. Just clumps of dirt everywhere!

[White CZ4A]

nope most soaps now break down in the soil, I had a lawn that was suffering from mole crickets (savannah grass) I did the typical spraying but it doesn't get the young ones or the eggs, I mixed buckets of soap water and soaked the lawn, within minutes both full grown and hatchling cricket were surfacing and dying, within weeks the entire lawn was regrown and with a urea treatment was green and lush again

what type of soap you used? I will give it a try

[ismithx]

don't water zyosia yourself .... i warned you... that grass is a monster, with plenty water it will grow very thick and wild... ( and with shade it grows high )

[boods1234]

nope most soaps now break down in the soil, I had a lawn that was suffering from mole crickets (savannah grass) I did the typical spraying but it doesn't get the young ones or the eggs, I mixed buckets of soap water and soaked the lawn, within minutes both full grown and hatchling cricket were surfacing and dying, within weeks the entire lawn was regrown and with a urea treatment was green and lush again

what type of soap you used? I will give it a try

Dred you know where to go to get stuff for that but you sticks!!

[Strugglerzinc]

Zyosia was too expensive for me so went with Bermuda seed.

7 days old

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

I installed sprinklers earlier this year and it saved my lawn this dry season!!!

I put in Rainbird 2" popup sprinklers facing inward - I set up two zones

I used adjustable heads so I could adjust the spray pattern on each instead of buying set heads.

Right now I just use standard PVC valves but I'm planning to buy the electric valves and timer soon.

[shogun]

nope most soaps now break down in the soil, I had a lawn that was suffering from mole crickets (savannah grass) I did the typical spraying but it doesn't get the young ones or the eggs, I mixed buckets of soap water and soaked the lawn, within minutes both full grown and hatchling cricket were surfacing and dying, within weeks the entire lawn was regrown and with a urea treatment was green and lush again

what type of soap you used? I will give it a try

Would like to know also. Currently using Fast/Tac insecticide, but would still see the random cricket from time to time. Not to mention having the dogs tied for days, once the lawn in sprayed.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

would like to know what soap was used.
Some Breeze fell on some grass near my driveway and the grass in that spot died a few days later.

[pugboy]

I used squeezy once to check how many earthworms I had, used about a palmful to half bucket of water
makes the worms come up to the surface.
it did not cause any problems with the grass, it was the older version though

[pugboy]

nice, germinating is the toughest part.

Zyosia was too expensive for me so went with Bermuda seed.

7 days old