Politics has a MORALITY of its own

Postby **Greypatch** » March 1st, 2011, 8:55 am

That is why

We continue to be a 3rd world country.

We do NOT vote on issues.

The People are last on the list to please.

We continue to be lead by dinosaurs.

SUPAstarr · Postby **SUPAstarr** » March 1st, 2011, 8:59 am

YAWN REPOST!!!! the general dissatisfaction of ppl with how out of touch governments are soooooo 2000's

TRAE · Postby **TRAE** » March 1st, 2011, 9:22 am

with an attitude like that- we will continue to be 3rd world

zoom rader · Postby **zoom rader** » March 1st, 2011, 9:26 am

Greypatch wrote:That is why

We continue to be a 3rd world country.

We do NOT vote on issues.

The People are last on the list to please.

We continue to be lead by dinosaurs.

We was a third world country under PNM but thats changing before our eyes. PNM is our problem and we need to stop the cult. The PNM voted for crime by not supporting the new hanging bill.

shogun · Postby **shogun** » March 1st, 2011, 9:40 am

There are a couple amendments in the bill offered by the P.P. that if made to the constitution, will allow the privy council, to come in and make the death penalty illegal, that's why they withheld support for it's passing...as well as other controversial amendments.
So people try to at least find out about the issue, before coming in here and breying PNM this and that....and no!, i'm not a PNM supporter.
I myself was wondering why the PNM didn't support the bill and committing what seems to be tantamount to political suicide. So, i researched before i made any judgement.

Postby **Greypatch** » March 1st, 2011, 9:42 am

Blind Loyalty to Political Parties.

RASC · Postby **RASC** » March 1st, 2011, 9:43 am

shogun wrote:There are a couple amendments in the bill offered by the P.P. that if made to the constitution, will allow the privy council, to come in and make the death penalty illegal, that's why they withheld support for it's passing...as well as other controversial amendments.
So people try to at least find out about the issue, before coming in here and breying PNM this and that....and no!, i'm not a PNM supporter.
I myself was wondering why the PNM didn't support the bill and committing what seems to be tantamount to political suicide. So, i researched before i made any judgement.

Thank you! You saw exactly what the PP was trying to mask in the Bill.
You did your due diligence and it paid off.

+1 for your openness.

The PNM actually did EXTREMELY well for the nation on this one.

mamoo_pagal · Postby **mamoo_pagal** » March 1st, 2011, 9:50 am

shogun wrote:There are a couple amendments in the bill offered by the P.P. that if made to the constitution, will allow the privy council, to come in and make the death penalty illegal, that's why they withheld support for it's passing...as well as other controversial amendments.
So people try to at least find out about the issue, before coming in here and breying PNM this and that....and no!, i'm not a PNM supporter.
I myself was wondering why the PNM didn't support the bill and committing what seems to be tantamount to political suicide. So, i researched before i made any judgement.

Don't know much aboth these things, what is the implication if the bill was passed?

Humes · Postby **Humes** » March 1st, 2011, 9:55 am

The only third world thing in this whole issue is the fact that people still think the death penalty will reduce crime.

Damien · Postby **Damien** » March 1st, 2011, 9:58 am

Humes wrote:The only third world thing in this whole issue is the fact that people still think the death penalty will reduce crime.

criminals dont fear death

Humes · Postby **Humes** » March 1st, 2011, 10:24 am

Damien wrote:
Humes wrote:The only third world thing in this whole issue is the fact that people still think the death penalty will reduce crime.

criminals dont fear death

Precisely. They willingly involved in a situation where they're more likely to be killed by their own fellow gang members, rival gang members, dons, or the police. They know this and they still engaged in it.

How exactly will the death sentence deter them?

And if you acknowledge that the death sentence is not a deterrence to crime, why be passionate about it at all?

TRAE · Postby **TRAE** » March 1st, 2011, 10:40 am

kill dey mc

Postby **Greypatch** » March 1st, 2011, 10:58 am

there is a six month window b4 this bill can be returned to parliament.

In six months we will see how serious our so called "leaders" are about this BILL.

RASC · Postby **RASC** » March 1st, 2011, 11:04 am

Greypatch wrote:there is a six month window b4 this bill can be returned to parliament.

In six months we will see how serious our so called "leaders" are about this BILL.

They will not change a thing. I can put money on that.
They are an extremely left leaning party... They do NOT want executions. That is why they put in that clause with the international human rights-and tried to snuff it through as constitutional law.

Watch and see!

Postby **Greypatch** » March 1st, 2011, 11:10 am

This is something BOTH sides support and want ie the resumption of hangings.

Yet collaboration cannot yield a result both can agree to.

What a fine example they set.

5onDfloor · Postby **5onDfloor** » March 1st, 2011, 11:37 am

so when is the funeral set to bury the PNM?

The PP waving the "Hanging Bill" as a MAJOR deterent to crime......ha ha ha what utter bullsh!t.
They are an exhausted bunch with no ideas on how to deal with crime so they make this bill their FLAGSHIP crime busting tool.

RASC · Postby **RASC** » March 1st, 2011, 11:40 am

5onDfloor wrote:so when is the funeral set to bury the PNM?

The PP waving the "Hanging Bill" as a MAJOR deterent to crime......ha ha ha what utter bullsh!t.
They are an exhausted bunch with no ideas on how to deal with crime so they make this bill their FLAGSHIP crime busting tool.

...this was their trump card? This is their ace in the hole?

You gotta be kidding me.

trini mk5 · Postby **trini mk5** » March 1st, 2011, 11:46 am

RASC wrote:
5onDfloor wrote:so when is the funeral set to bury the PNM?

The PP waving the "Hanging Bill" as a MAJOR deterent to crime......ha ha ha what utter bullsh!t.
They are an exhausted bunch with no ideas on how to deal with crime so they make this bill their FLAGSHIP crime busting tool.

...this was their trump card? This is their ace in the hole?

You gotta be kidding me.

Surley you didnt expect a white dude from Canada to solve crime did you??

nemisis · Postby **nemisis** » March 1st, 2011, 12:01 pm

trini mk5 wrote:
RASC wrote:
5onDfloor wrote:so when is the funeral set to bury the PNM?

The PP waving the "Hanging Bill" as a MAJOR deterent to crime......ha ha ha what utter bullsh!t.
They are an exhausted bunch with no ideas on how to deal with crime so they make this bill their FLAGSHIP crime busting tool.

...this was their trump card? This is their ace in the hole?

You gotta be kidding me.

Surley you didnt expect a white dude from Canada to solve crime did you??

That's racist........ D man pink

shogun · Postby **shogun** » March 1st, 2011, 7:41 pm

^lol.

Cjruckus · Postby **Cjruckus** » March 2nd, 2011, 12:10 am

zoom rader wrote:
Greypatch wrote:That is why

We continue to be a 3rd world country.

We do NOT vote on issues.

The People are last on the list to please.

We continue to be lead by dinosaurs.

We was a third world country under PNM but thats changing before our eyes. PNM is our problem and we need to stop the cult. The PNM voted for crime by not supporting the new hanging bill.

I think you voted for crime by putting the PP in office because so far they got rid of Suatt, and SIA then they wont even pay the police officers.

If the government doesn't want to meet the PNM demands, it will not pass. Thats why there is a 2/3s majority rule for constitutional reform.

Postby **Greypatch** » March 2nd, 2011, 10:24 am

Six Months to get it right a 2nd time for the benefit of the People of T&T

eyephone · Postby **eyephone** » March 2nd, 2011, 10:32 am

Cjruckus wrote:
I think you voted for crime by putting the PP in office because so far they got rid of Suatt, and SIA then they wont even pay the police officers.

If the government doesn't want to meet the PNM demands, it will not pass. Thats why there is a 2/3s majority rule for constitutional reform.

I know four ppl that share your opinion

ismithx · Postby **ismithx** » March 6th, 2011, 11:06 am

we need less politicians and more practical people in this country....

shaneelal · Postby **shaneelal** » March 6th, 2011, 11:44 am

shogun wrote:There are a couple amendments in the bill offered by the P.P. that if made to the constitution, will allow the privy council, to come in and make the death penalty illegal, that's why they withheld support for it's passing...as well as other controversial amendments.
So people try to at least find out about the issue, before coming in here and breying PNM this and that....and no!, i'm not a PNM supporter.
I myself was wondering why the PNM didn't support the bill and committing what seems to be tantamount to political suicide. So, i researched before i made any judgement.

It is good to have a strong opposition to keep the gov't in check but they they should express themselves more constructively and explain to the people why they didn't support the bill and stop talking about the past about who said what.

skylinechild · Postby **skylinechild** » March 6th, 2011, 5:34 pm

this is my contribution.

De Dragon · Postby **De Dragon** » March 7th, 2011, 11:28 am

"Bullying" and "Disrespect" should never be the cause for non-support of legislation. If the PNM had a valid reason for voting against the Bill, I have yet to here any member of the PNM espouse that reason.

bushwakka · Postby **bushwakka** » March 7th, 2011, 8:28 pm

we shud hang politicians who say that politics has a morality of its own and keep hanging till we get some with new idealogies, the cycle must be broken and the 'tricks of the trade' must be abandoned and new standards adopted for acceptable code of conduct in public offices and integrity by speech

i will leave it open to whether i mean to literally hang them or not.....politicians are directly and indirectly responsible for serious crimes that affect us all

white collar crime is just as damaging, some may argue even more so than regular crime since white collar crime has the potential to affect a larger group of people simultaneously