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Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby Greypatch » February 22nd, 2010, 9:32 am

The British of Argetina ?

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Postby JoKeR1980 » February 22nd, 2010, 9:34 am

oh lawdy...

biggest fight over some big stone....

WTF either of them want it for?

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Postby Hook » February 22nd, 2010, 9:37 am

The Falklandians.


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Postby evo-STI-k » February 22nd, 2010, 9:38 am

JoKeR1980 wrote:oh lawdy...

biggest fight over some big stone....

WTF either of them want it for?


i suspect it has the greatest deposits of Unobtanium in the world!

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Postby Greypatch » February 22nd, 2010, 9:38 am

in one word oil....

300 miles from the coast of South America.

700 miles from mainland Antarctica

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Postby JoKeR1980 » February 22nd, 2010, 9:39 am

what is to gain? any oil there? natural gas?

I doh see why the British just doh give the place to Argentina, let them keep the lil money they get from tourism or fishing

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Postby Sky » February 22nd, 2010, 9:39 am

The 35 people who living there?

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Postby Hook » February 22nd, 2010, 9:39 am

:lol: unobtainium de man say oui! :lol:

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Postby Greypatch » February 22nd, 2010, 9:39 am

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with a population of just over 3000 they cannot stand alone

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Postby JoKeR1980 » February 22nd, 2010, 9:41 am

Greypatch wrote:in one word oil....

300 miles from the coast of South America.

700 miles from mainland Antarctica


ah...as I thought...had to have some resource to exploit...

has oil already been found? or its just exploration going on?

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Postby timothymcdavid » February 22nd, 2010, 9:41 am

JoKeR1980 wrote:oh lawdy...

biggest fight over some big stone....

WTF either of them want it for?


Oil

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Postby RBphoto » February 22nd, 2010, 9:42 am

JoKeR1980 wrote:oh lawdy...

biggest fight over some big stone....

WTF either of them want it for?


There is speculation of oil reserves.

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Postby Greypatch » February 22nd, 2010, 9:45 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8520038.stm


Q&A: The Falklands oil row


Oil rigs in the area - like this one from 1998 - may become more common


The war between the UK and Argentina over the Falkland Islands ended almost 28 years ago.

But tensions over the sovereignty of the islands have never quite gone away.

Argentina still claims sovereignty over what it calls the Islas Malvinas.

The discovery of oil and gas in the area has added an economic dimension to the long-running dispute between the two nations over the islands.

What is the row about?

This week, Argentina has imposed new controls on shipping to the Falkland Islands in a growing oil dispute with the UK.

Argentine President Cristina Fernandez on Tuesday signed a decree that requires all vessels travelling between Argentina and the islands or those that want to cross Argentine territorial waters en route to the Falklands to seek prior permission.

This also applies to vessels going to the other nearby British controlled islands in the South Atlantic - South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands.

It could make drilling in the area more complicated and expensive for foreign firms. A drilling rig from the Scottish highlands, the Ocean Guardian, is expected to arrive soon to begin oil exploration .

A government minister explicitly said the move was to protect control of "resources" in the area.

In April, Argentina formally laid claim to 1,700,000 sq km (650,000 sq miles) of ocean surrounding the Falklands - handing over 800kg of documents to the UN.

The country passed a law in December claiming to own the islands and several other British overseas territories.




When did they discover oil?

In 1998, six wells were drilled to the north of the Falkland Islands - an area about half the size of Texas.

With crude oil dropping as low as $10.35 a barrel that year, it was decided it was not commercially viable to drill the wells.

Now, with oil above $75 a barrel, there is a lot more interest to find out just how much oil is there.

A number of oil companies have exploration rights now. British oil firm Desire Petroleum hold the exploration rights to that area now.

The territory - which has fewer than 3,000 people - also started gold and minerals exploration in 2004.

Fishing accounts for the largest part of the economy, followed by farming and tourism.

So how much oil and gas is there?

The often-used figure based on geological surveys is that the Falkland Islands have the equivalent of about 60 billion barrels of oil in total.

But Ben Brewerton, spokesman for the UK-listed Falkland Oil and Gas, told the BBC this figure is "slightly mythical" and no-one knows where it came from.

By contrast, Saudi Arabia - the world's biggest oil producer - has proven reserves of more than 267 billion barrels of oil and produces more than 10 million barrels of oil a day.

Falkland Oil and Gas - which has the exploration rights for the south and east of the islands - said it estimates its four biggest prospects in the area have 8 billion barrels of oil.

Development of the island's energy resources are still in the exploration stage. Drilling will take place later this year.

If oil and gas is discovered in commercial quantities, then it will be no sooner than five years before oil is being extracted from the ground, Mr Brewerton said.

The recent political uncertainty has not deterred the companies there.

"There's been no disruption to our work thus far," Mr Brewerton said.

Neither has the uncertainty over how much oil may be there. Anglo-Australian firm BHP Billiton has partnered with Falkland Oil and Gas.

The fact that one of the world's biggest miners is there is a sign that experts are convinced the Falkland Islands have a future as an oil producer.



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Postby hydroep » February 22nd, 2010, 9:45 am

Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands?


Whomever has the greatest firepower. :idea:

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Postby Greypatch » February 22nd, 2010, 9:46 am

Whomever has the greatest firepower.



dem days should be over post world war II

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Postby JoKeR1980 » February 22nd, 2010, 9:47 am

wayee...

well...sah...pressure...

I'm sure they can come to some profit sharing scheme


yeah right :lol:

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Postby Sky » February 22nd, 2010, 9:48 am

The maritime zone lines looks like a big boo.

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Postby Greypatch » February 22nd, 2010, 9:50 am

nice island website..
http://www.falklands.gov.fk//index.html

Since 1996, the number of households with computers has more than doubled. Over two thirds of all households now have computers, most with internet access. The television remains the most common household appliance in Stanley but mobile telephones have rapidly become a popular item amongst the capital's residents. In Camp, washing machines are narrowly the most popular household item.

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Postby 200sx » February 22nd, 2010, 9:51 am

flip a flipping coin :idea: :lol:

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Postby RBphoto » February 22nd, 2010, 9:53 am

hydroep wrote:
Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands?


Whomever has the greatest firepower. :idea:


Dem Falkers dead.

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Postby evo-STI-k » February 22nd, 2010, 9:56 am

poor Blue people! :(

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Postby cacasplat3 » February 22nd, 2010, 11:21 am

there's also a mad race for the Arctic........they say about a quarter of the undiscovered oil and gas is in the Arctic.......a few countries up there clamming territories......things going to heat up there :lol:
Canada and Denmark fighting over Hans Island as well.....about 1.3km2
madness yes...... :lol:

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Postby Greypatch » February 22nd, 2010, 11:43 am

WTF

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Postby d spike » February 22nd, 2010, 12:03 pm

hydroep wrote:
Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands?


Whomever has the greatest firepower. :idea:


This was decided already in '82...

The islanders wanted to remain British, even though Argentina claimed otherwise.

This concerns us more than it might seem... back in '82, Venezuela was observing very carefully how the rest of the world reacted to Argentina's claim, as the same claims can apply to Venezuela and Trinidad... you could have bet your last dollar that if Argentina was allowed to follow up on its claim without hindrance, then we would have been "invaded" by you-know-who...

Venezuela is standing by... to assist Argentina... or to take up residence here? Remember also, that we are far closer to the mainland than the Falklands... so if Argentina has a right to the islands on its continental shelf... ah hope allyuh could speak espanol...

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Postby Greypatch » February 22nd, 2010, 12:07 pm

most of the population on the falkalands are british..

but some valid points..

doubt we can compare the islands to T&T as they cannot stand on their own as T&T..

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Postby d spike » February 22nd, 2010, 12:23 pm

I am not in agreement with the idea of deciding whether a country should change ownership based on its resources/self-sustainability. There are many countries that lack major resources - does that mean they should cede sovereignty to the nearest "overseer"?

Yes, the population is made up of Britishers, but does that invalidate their claim? Argentina isn't ruled by amerindians, and American colonists who decided to part ways with England weren't an indigenous people.

While I agree with your comparison of TnT and the Falklands regarding sufficiency, I doubt the powers-that-be in Venezuela will take that point into consideration. :D

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Postby VexXx Dogg » February 22nd, 2010, 12:27 pm

Falk them Falking Falkers oui.

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Postby cacasplat3 » February 22nd, 2010, 12:27 pm

Greypatch wrote:WTF

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yuh understand! :lol:

Russia went as far as sending a submersible to plant a flag under the ice on the seabed at the north pole in 2007......it had no legal significance, but it showed how much territory they wanted to claim....
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check this link for the report on it......
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6927395.stm
"This isn't the 15th Century," Canadian Foreign Minister Peter MacKay told the CTV channel.

"You can't go around the world and just plant flags and say 'We're claiming this territory'," he said.

I LOL'ed


the Arctic Race is going to be a long one.....i foresee Russia getting what they want.

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Postby Country_Bookie » February 22nd, 2010, 12:34 pm

So when they fought the war in the ‘80s they knew it had oil back then too, or was it just Margaret Thatcher being a royal kant?

Death to the greedy fcuking imperialists!

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