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Expect Beetham Protests

Postby pablo_tt » March 8th, 2009, 8:54 am

http://guardian.co.tt/news/general/2009 ... structures



A showdown is expected between Beetham Gardens residents and San Juan/Laventille Regional Corporation (SJLRC) over the destruction of illegal residential and commercial properties that were served, recently, show cause notices.

The corporation issued the notices, on February 13, to several proprietors and home owners, who built illegal concrete structures during the last two decades on Main Street, Beetham, which spans from Phase One to Five. Some residents, who erected wooden structures on the southern side of the Beetham, which runs parallel to the bustling Beetham Highway, also were handed notices by the corporation.

The illegal occupants will have to show, before Friday, cause in writing, as to why their buildings should not be demolished by the local authority. Failure to give reasonable explanations to the SJLRC, the notice stated, could result in the properties being destroyed and the owner/s billed by the local authority for the expenses incurred. “If they touch one house or business in here, this thing go end up in a upheaval. You mark my words. People are going to retaliate,â€

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Postby eliteauto » March 8th, 2009, 9:01 am

I want us to have 10 conferences per year, if it takes visiting Heads of State to get this Gov't to actually enforce the law, laws that they have conveniently bypassed for years

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Postby AllTrac » March 8th, 2009, 9:07 am

Good job SJLRC.

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Postby SR » March 8th, 2009, 9:12 am

about time


because they are all breaking the law and they feel justified by doing so

town and country needs to pull the approved files for those buildings

but all this and the metal scrap dealer operating illegally on the side of the highway is still allowed to continue

isnt that entire structure illegal.................
doesn that structure and nature of business pose the highest threat to commuters on the beetham highway over some house with an illegal extension............

that place should be shutdown first

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Postby AGENT RORO » March 8th, 2009, 9:22 am

SR wrote:about time


because they are all breaking the law and they feel justified by doing so

town and country needs to pull the approved files for those buildings

but all this and the metal scrap dealer operating illegally on the side of the highway is still allowed to continue

isnt that entire structure illegal.................
doesn that structure and nature of business pose the highest threat to commuters on the beetham highway over some house with an illegal extension............

that place should be shutdown first

Exactly! and stop F'in around

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Postby saxman642 » March 8th, 2009, 9:27 am

STEUPS!!

They protesting this, but they will never protest:

- when they robbing people who car shut down on the beetham highway
- when they pelting big stone on windscreen of maxis along bus route
- leaving debree in road to stop cars to setup robberies

They never see those events, but always see the "alleged" police/soldier brutality.

Quick to palm everything off on "Laventille" :?

haul dey MC

Break it all down!! :twisted:

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Postby kuchurV2 » March 8th, 2009, 10:54 am

BEETHAM LOVES OBAMA

Take that in the MC

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Postby bluespeed » March 8th, 2009, 11:13 am

black supremacy IYMC.. :fist:

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Re: Expect Beetham Protests

Postby AbstractPoetic » March 8th, 2009, 11:21 am

[quote="pablo_tt"]He said the SJLRC did not indicate if compensation would be awarded for properties destroyed. Williams also argued that they were not told about the notices. “Why they spring this on us weeks before the Summit? Why they didn’t tell us this before? This go start a revolution. People will turn against the Government.â€

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Postby tr1ad » March 8th, 2009, 11:22 am

evo sti k go cyah collect he rent money again?

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Postby Damien » March 8th, 2009, 11:26 am

They should bomb that place before the summit for the people to park there government bought suv's my $0.02

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Re: Expect Beetham Protests

Postby SR » March 8th, 2009, 11:28 am

[quote="AbstractPoetic"][quote="pablo_tt"]He said the SJLRC did not indicate if compensation would be awarded for properties destroyed. Williams also argued that they were not told about the notices. “Why they spring this on us weeks before the Summit? Why they didn’t tell us this before? This go start a revolution. People will turn against the Government.â€

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Postby cinco » March 8th, 2009, 11:30 am

[quote="SR"][quote="AbstractPoetic"][quote="pablo_tt"]He said the SJLRC did not indicate if compensation would be awarded for properties destroyed. Williams also argued that they were not told about the notices. “Why they spring this on us weeks before the Summit? Why they didn’t tell us this before? This go start a revolution. People will turn against the Government.â€

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Re: Expect Beetham Protests

Postby saxman642 » March 8th, 2009, 11:50 am

SR wrote:go back in history regarding beetham estate and its original intention


Do tell. I never gave it any thought. But I honestly do not know.

Care to educate? Or at least tell me where to start looking?

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Postby worksux101 » March 8th, 2009, 11:58 am

Yea right...most will be relocated to a housing development in a "marginal" constituency...

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Postby buzz » March 8th, 2009, 12:03 pm

The illegal occupants will have to show, before Friday, cause in writing, as to why their buildings should not be demolished by the local authority.


what a loop hole to exploit :?

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Postby ronsin1 » March 8th, 2009, 12:06 pm

^^^ buzz ent negative nancy living in the beetham

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Postby buzz » March 8th, 2009, 12:08 pm

morvant :|

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Postby RichieRich » March 8th, 2009, 12:26 pm

I just hope when they break down some of those houses they aint come in my area to squat nah :|

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Postby pete » March 8th, 2009, 12:28 pm

SR wrote:about time


because they are all breaking the law and they feel justified by doing so

town and country needs to pull the approved files for those buildings

but all this and the metal scrap dealer operating illegally on the side of the highway is still allowed to continue

isnt that entire structure illegal.................
doesn that structure and nature of business pose the highest threat to commuters on the beetham highway over some house with an illegal extension............

that place should be shutdown first


The guardian today said the scrap dealer has been shut down!

YAY! about time. :D

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Postby buzz » March 8th, 2009, 12:28 pm

so whey yuh tink dey puttin dem


Yea right...most will be relocated to a housing development in a "marginal" constituency...



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Postby 0awg » March 8th, 2009, 12:28 pm

worksux101 wrote:Yea right...most will be relocated to a housing development in a "marginal" constituency...


exactly!

you really feel manning will turn his back on that amount of pnm supporters (although they still will vote him, he wouldnt take the chance of losing those votes).

look out for beetham pple in now living allyuh neighbourhood.

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Postby buzz » March 8th, 2009, 12:28 pm

:shock:

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Postby AllTrac » March 8th, 2009, 12:49 pm

dey coming chaguanas. Hondahoe finally getting to complete his crew.

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Postby 0awg » March 8th, 2009, 12:50 pm

^^^

one gunta play he trying to run in my place firday, gate was open, car open playing music & I went to walk the dog, nobody home in all the surrounding houses, he thought I was not watching him but I was.
as soon as he cross the gate a next gunta run & bawl, wah yuh doin, yuh mad? doh try tuh rob dem bai, yuh mad, get outa there, he run back out & run down the road. I dont want any beetham people where I living, I will have close the gate with him inside my place :fadein:

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Re: Expect Beetham Protests

Postby rodfarva » March 8th, 2009, 12:55 pm

AbstractPoetic wrote:The Beetham and its many squatters give evidence to horrid infrastructural planning by the government.

True, but a solution exists. That solution is to tear down the illegal housing. Notice was given. Even if such notice was not given in a more reasonable time frame.

If you do not create means for your poor citizens to afford legal housing, they will build on whatever land they can find.

Building on land that they do not own is illegal. Ignorance of that law does not exclude them from it.

Now an impromptu decision is made, will little advance notice, to destroy what little means these residents have?

What means? They built on land that is not their own. However bad the government's timing and handling of this matter is, it does not change the ownership of said land.

Unless alternative housing is provided, the citizens have a right to protest and burn down houses if they so please.

They have no such right. That is an act of arson, punishable by imprisonment.
The citizens do have certain rights, based on occupancy, but none of those rights give them the freedom to burn houses or react with any form of violence.
The power lies with the people.

The power lies with the Government which has been entrusted with said power by the people.

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Re: Expect Beetham Protests

Postby AbstractPoetic » March 8th, 2009, 1:27 pm

rodfarva wrote:Building on land that they do not own is illegal. Ignorance of that law does not exclude them from it.


If it was in fact illegal, why has its establishment remained for so long? Why had it not been eradicated from the get?

rodfarva wrote:What means? They built on land that is not their own. However bad the government's timing and handling of this matter is, it does not change the ownership of said land.


By the government condoning the Beetham residency to be in existence for so long, where generations have been created, the land was eventually seen as and adopted as their own. They are not solely at fault here.

rodfarva wrote:The power lies with the Government which has been entrusted with said power by the people.


My point exactly. The power lies with the government that can only come into existence by the people. There is power in having the right to vote a government in, and only the people can do that. We are more empowered in creating change than we are led to believe.

As stated previously, Beetham residents give credence to the failed politricks of the PNM government. They are not solely at fault here.

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Postby 0awg » March 8th, 2009, 1:37 pm

AbstractPoetic wrote:
rodfarva wrote:Building on land that they do not own is illegal. Ignorance of that law does not exclude them from it.


If it was in fact illegal, why has its establishment remained for so long? Why had it not been eradicated from the get?



this government only deals with things when they feel to. take for example the tint issue, people hav always have dark tint, all of a sudden they decide to crack down. there is no consistency in their actions & doings.
its partly politics too, if they get rid of those people they are loosing a large number of votes there.
the establishment is not only illegal it is proving problems to other people (crime wise).
also the beetham is a nice piece of fertile land, it will do well if used for agricultute but instead it occupied by them & our govnt dosent focus on agri.





AbstractPoetic wrote:
rodfarva wrote:What means? They built on land that is not their own. However bad the government's timing and handling of this matter is, it does not change the ownership of said land.


By the government condoning the Beetham residency to be in existence for so long, where generations have been created, the land was eventually seen as and adopted as their own. They are not solely at fault here.


because you occupy something for awhile does it give you ownership to it?
whose name is on the deed for the land?
the government is not condoning them, they are just turning a blind eye to the plight of the rest of the public.

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Re: Expect Beetham Protests

Postby AbstractPoetic » March 8th, 2009, 1:56 pm

0awg wrote:this government only deals with things when they feel to. take for example the tint issue, people hav always have dark tint, all of a sudden they decide to crack down. there is no consistency in their actions & doings.
its partly politics too, if they get rid of those people they are loosing a large number of votes there.
the establishment is not only illegal it is proving problems to other people (crime wise).
also the beetham is a nice piece of fertile land, it will do well if used for agricultute but instead it occupied by them & our govnt dosent focus on agri.


So by ridding of the Beetham, are you inferring that criminal activities will be minimized to a greater extent?

I disagree. The government will only be relocating these criminals in the country, and they will become the problem of another community. Crime will not be minimized on a whole.

As for losing votes, I also beg to differ. The "PNM till I dead" mentality, as it also applies to UNC-A supporters, will remain, no matter how citizens are treated by their government.

Sans aesthetics, who is really benefiting here?
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Re: Expect Beetham Protests

Postby AbstractPoetic » March 8th, 2009, 1:57 pm

0awg wrote:the government is not condoning them, they are just turning a blind eye to the plight of the rest of the public.



Uhm, that's condoning. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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