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adnj wrote:Habit7 wrote:
It is not possible to commit a home invasion in T&T and not violate the laws of Burglary and Breakings. So you too are talking nonsense.
Wrong.
All home invasions committed in TT would be classified as a burglary or a break in, but all burglaries and break ins are not necessarily a home invasion.
Habit7 is a home invasion a crime?Habit7 wrote:adnj wrote:Habit7 wrote:
It is not possible to commit a home invasion in T&T and not violate the laws of Burglary and Breakings. So you too are talking nonsense.
Wrong.
All home invasions committed in TT would be classified as a burglary or a break in, but all burglaries and break ins are not necessarily a home invasion.
You are calling this wrong but both statements agree with each other.
First you were saying that Burglaries and Breakings were limited to nighttime therefore "the incident will be charged according to the components involved". So Burglaries and Breakings were not wide enough and ppl might be charged with robberies, assault, etc. But I rubbished that by showing you there are sections irrespective of time of day.
Now you holding the position that it too wide because Burglaries and Breakings may involve invasions that might not be a dwelling place.
The problem is that "home invasion" is a subjective term that ppl bandy about locally but there is no defined meaning. You define it as "a criminal unlawfully enters a residence while the occupants are inside with the intent to commit a crime." There are ppl here who said that that is too light, home invasion is when they take you hostage and beat you. Some say it when they have guns. Some outside this thread say home invasion is a term the press uses based on your neighbourhood, burglary in middle to upper class areas is a home invasion. Burglary in a lower-class area is just bandit.
You cannot arbitrarily define a term, then arbitrarily pick a year or a month, then declare it is increasing, and when you get pushback, clutch your pearls and be surprised at how somebody could deny what you arbitrarily created.
There is no offence in T&T laws called Home Invasion. What is commonly subscribed to as home invasions are all subsumed in Burglaries and Breakings. When year-on-year Burglaries and Breakings are up we use this data point to prove home invasions are up. eg. This article which cited B&B in certain police divisions https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/home-in ... f8648d3989
But if B&B are down year on year nationally and one concludes that home invasions are not increasing, you cannot disavow the same data. That is being disingenuous.
There might be one who believes a true home invasion must be done on a predominantly East Indian home, by a lil Black boy from Laventille, who is left-handed, who has an AK47, who must tie and beat everybody in the house, rape somebody and escape in a Tiida with steel rims. And if TTPS doesn't have a stat for this therefore home invasions are not being recorded, those are your variables and your criteria. But generally, all home invasions are variants of Burglary and Breakings and it is only right to measure their rise or fall by this metric.
The_Honourable wrote:Habit7 wrote:j.o.e wrote:Allyuh talking in circles.
Nobody talking in circles. They dead but refusing to lie down.
Telling them that home invasions not increasing is like telling them Santa Claus is not real
So they are tripping over themselves to discredit the data or creating arbitrary assessment periods.
The same thing occurs when we get good reports from international economy surveillance groups or corruption perception index. Deny, deny, deny because the facts contradict their narrative.
But what i have presented to you is not false. Verifiable facts so again...
From our lowest in 2021 at 1,331 to 1,677 in 2023, is that an increase or decrease?
121 in December 2023 to 137 in April 2024, is that an increase or decrease?
Is Rowley and Hinds using the same stats you are using?
Until you answer these questions, go in a corner with a balisier and put a finger on yuh lip.
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In general, when a criminal unlawfully enters a residence while the occupants are inside with the intent to commit a crime, that’s a home invasion.
zoom rader wrote:Habit7 is a home invasion a crime?
Locals is much to do about nothing, its just noiseHabit7 wrote:PNM gains ground in local government by-election
SEAN DOUGLAS YESTERDAY
THE PNM overall gained political ground across both seats in Monday’s local government by-elections, in the Lengua/Indian Walk seat on the Princes Town Regional Corporation and the Quinam/Morne Diablo seat on the Penal/Debe Regional Corporation. While each party won one seat, the results both showed a general shift in the PNM’s favour, in contrast to the surge enjoyed overall in last year’s local government elections, in which the UNC handsomely won the popular vote.
On Monday, the PNM flipped the Lengua/Indian Walk seat (with a 600-vote margin), previously held by the UNC (with a 300-vote margin.)
The PNM won with 1,986 votes to the UNC’s 1,394 votes, compared to 2019, when the UNC won with 1,871 votes to the PNM’s 1,577.
The PNM tally rose by 400 votes and UNC’s fell by 500.
Also on Monday, the PNM halved the UNC’s majority in the Quinam/Morne Diablo seat from a 2,400-vote margin in 2019 to a 1,200 margin.
The UNC won with 2,239 votes ahead of the PNM’s 976 votes. However, this result represented a PNM gain of 400 votes and a UNC loss of 800 votes compared to the previous election results of the UNC's 3,044 votes to the PNM’s 599.
For the PNM, Finance Minister Colm Imbert, in a tweet, said, “In both seats, the UNC was unable to increase its votes. The naysayers got it wrong.”
Newsday asked Lengua/Indian Walk councillor-elect Pastor Autley Granthume why he had won and whether his victory would translate into help for the PNM in next year’s general election.
He told Newsday residents were tired of “blind promises and nothing happening” amid a lack of sport facilities and jobs for youngsters but they knew him as someone helping anyone he could.
On the 2025 elections, he viewed his win as “a stepping stone for the PNM going forward.”
Newsday asked if he believes his win could help the PNM snatch the key marginal Moruga constituency next year, now held by the UNC’s Michele Benjamin.
Granthume said, “We worked with that in mind. We presented the facts to the people. People gravitated and showed their satisfaction. We believe once we continue to work and meet the people’s needs...news spreads across the floor very quickly.
“This will be an incentive as we go forward into the election in 2025.”
Granthume said the victory reflected well on his party.
“The PNM has done well, but sometimes we have some little hiccups. (Previously) the PNM did not reach out in some areas we should have and may have caused some people to slide off.”
He said his win was now “a very good reflection on the PNM.”
Oropouche East MP Dr Roodal Moonilal partially blamed the results on Mayaro MP Rushton Paray. Two days before the by-election, Paray led a slate to contest the UNC internal elections against a slate backed by political leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar.
“Whatever slim loss we had was due to the ‘Paray effect.’”
Accusing Paray of creating “diversion, division and kuchoor” in the UNC, Moonilal said, “That is the effect of it.”
Paray, in reply via WhatsApp, told Newsday Moonilal’s criticism was “desperate and laughable.”
He said the internal election date was set by the national executive, which included Moonilal.
“They unilaterally decided to set the date two days before the by-election, and this decision was made after the Government had already announced the by-election date,” Paray said.
“The internal election could have been scheduled for the end of June, but they chose not to pursue that option.”
Saying the UNC internal election was over, he said a team had been selected.
“It is time to stop making excuses and start working.”
“Blaming others for the poor decision-making or strategies of the executive will not enhance the UNC’s prospects for the general election in 2025.”
https://newsday.co.tt/2024/06/18/pnm-ga ... -election/
All these Jobs are near slave labor with underdeployment,Habit7 wrote:Non-energy sector drives growth: More jobs coming
RYAN HAMILTON-DAVIS YESTERDAY
With the non-energy sector leading the country to economic recovery, the Central Bank’s annual economic report, released on Tuesday, predicted more jobs coming in the sector.
“The non-energy sector is expected to remain buoyant,” the report said. “This may have further positive implications for labour market conditions, including an increase in the labour force participation rate as more people are encouraged to enter the labour market.”
The cautiously optimistic outlook posed by Central Bank came a day before Labour Day, which commemorates the anniversary of the Uriah Butler oilfield riots in 1937.
Overall, the economy showed significant growth, with headline inflation down from 5.8 per cent in 2022 to 4.6 per cent in 2023. The overall domestic economy grew by 2.5 per cent.
Central Bank recorded gross official reserves amounting to US$6.3 billion with 7.8 months of import cover.
This was echoed in the International Monetary Fund (IMF’s) country report.
The IMF’s report said real GDP rebounded in 2022, and it expected further growth in 2023 while headline inflation decreased.
More jobs, higher participation in 2023
The report, which highlighted labour statistics for the past five years (2018-2023) from the Central Statistical Office (CSO), predicts a rebound in employment after employment fell during covid19.
For 2023, Central Bank recorded 578,800 registered jobs. This was out of a total labour force of 602,800 for the year.
This marked an increase over 2022, which, out of a total labour force of 594,600, had 565,300 jobs recorded.
Labour participation in 2023 increased for men, with the Central Bank recording a 64.6 per cent labour participation rate, compared to a 47.1 participation rate among women.
In 2022, the participation rate for men was lower, at 62.7 per cent. But the rate was incrementally higher in 2022, at 47.6 per cent.
The unemployment rate also showed a disparity between genders, with unemployment among males recorded at 3.5 per cent and unemployment among females recorded at 4.6 per cent.
In 2018, employment was at a five-year high, at 609,100 jobs out of a total workforce of 633,900 for that year. The unemployment rate for that year was recorded at 3.9 per cent, with 3.2 per cent of the total labour force who were unemployed being male and 4.9 per cent of the total workforce who were unemployed being female.
In 2021, out of a labour force of 592,200, only 560,400 people had jobs. The unemployment rate for that year was 5.4 per cent overall, with 4.8 per cent being male and 6.1 per cent being female.
The report added that retrenchment notices reported to the Ministry of Labour for the period January-December 2023 indicated that 465 people were retrenched, compared to 980 people in 2022. This showed a 515-person reduction in retrenchments year-on-year.
Retrenchments were reported mainly in the transport, communication and storage sectors, distribution, finance, insurance, real estate, petroleum and other mining and personal service sectors.
While the number of retrenchments went down, the average number of job advertisements published daily in the print media showed a slight increase of 0.6 per cent year-on-year.
The report said despite a decline from 12 per cent in 2022 to 9.5 per cent in 2023, the youth (ages 15-24) unemployment rate remained disproportionately higher than the national average.
“Youth unemployment remains a significant social challenge, with statistics revealing a high incidence of criminal offences perpetrated by persons within this age group. A number of government initiatives, such as the Youth Agriculture Homestead Programme and others by the Ministry of Youth Development and National Service, seek to offer targeted solutions.”
Workers more productive, wages getting better
The report said labour productivity improved in 2023, with high jumps in productivity being recorded, again, in the non-energy sector.
“Excluding the energy sector, the index of productivity increased by 83.5 per cent in 2023, primarily due to elevated levels of production (83.7 per cent) alongside a 0.2 per cent in the index of hours worked,” the report said.
It said increases were recorded in the assembly-type and related products sector at 177.9 per cent and the food processing sector at 10.5 per cent.
There was a recorded growth in the processing of fruit and vegetables by 11.4 per cent and processed meat, poultry and fish by 5.3 per cent. The report said the boost was largely influenced by an uptick in food processing.
Assembly-type and related products got its growth from the production of metal furniture, which increased by 183.2 per cent.
Central Bank also reported declines in production in the printing, publishing and paper converters sectors as well as electricity.
In contrast, the energy sector productivity declined because of reduced levels of production across the domestic energy sector.
“In 2023, the index of domestic production recorded a reduction of 6.2 per cent in the exploration and production of oil and natural gas industry (upstream),” the report said.
As a result, petrochemical production fell 20.3 per cent, but man-hours worked in the industry increased by 0.4 per cent. Increases in man-hours in exploration and production of oil and gas were also recorded at 3.4 per cent.
Central Bank also marked an increase in wages in the non-energy sector, with the manufacturing and wholesale and retail trade sectors receiving the highest average wage increase in 2023, each recording 2.6 per cent increases.
“Wage growth was contained in 2023,” the report said. “Collective bargaining agreements filed with the Industrial Court revealed that the average wage increase in 2023 measured 2.3 per cent, up from two per cent recorded in both 2022 and 2021.”
“In 2023, wage increases ranged from one per cent to four per cent compared to a range of two per cent to three per cent in 2022,” the report said.
Non-energy leading the path to recovery
The report said domestic activity showed signs of revival, with the non-energy sector giving the country an economic boost.
But the energy sector slowed growth.
The report, taking data from the CSO, said real GDP expanded by 2.5 per cent year-on-year.
According to CSO’s figures, the sector grew by 4.2 per cent.
The trade and repair sub-sector, as well as transportation and storage and accommodation and food services, provided significant buffers for the sector overall, the report said.
Central Bank’s quarterly index of real economic activity said the second half of the year showed healthy activity in the sector.
Local sales in cement boosted the construction sector; increases in air and water transportation provided growth for the transportation and storage sector and the wholesale and retail (excluding energy) sector also showed expansion.
In contrast, the energy sector contracted by 1.3 per cent, hampered significantly by reduced production.
Production in crude oil fell by -8.1 per cent, and natural gas fell by -3.6 per cent. The reduced production had a ripple effect along the downstream sectors, which led to declines in refining and petrochemicals.
“Refining activity was set back by contractions in the production of natural gas liquids (NGLs) (by) -8.7 per cent, as well as liquefied natural gas by -3.3 per cent.”
Petrochemical production was impeded by the shutdowns of several plants at the Point Lisas Estate, a symptom of challenges with natural gas availability, the report said.
Methanol production remained resilient, improving by 5.2 per cent, but ammonia declined by 13.3 per cent.
The IMF report suggested that while TT is not back to pre-pandemic levels, it expects even further growth for 2024, noting several energy projects that would be expected to come on stream in the coming months.
https://newsday.co.tt/2024/06/18/non-en ... bs-coming/
Yup a typical PNM, cant answer a simple question.alfa wrote:zoom rader wrote:Habit7 is a home invasion a crime?
I noticed he has not answered. Says a lot about this bad habit
zoom rader wrote:
He only had wing & Mero gagglings his balls for support, u could say dumb & dumber
Thats ok, i is hood and very successful.Habit7 wrote:zoom rader wrote:
He only had wing & Mero gagglings his balls for support, u could say dumb & dumber
It undercuts the insult of calling ppl dumb & dumber when you can't spell gargling.
zoom rader wrote:Thats ok, i is hood and very successful.Habit7 wrote:zoom rader wrote:
He only had wing & Mero gagglings his balls for support, u could say dumb & dumber
It undercuts the insult of calling ppl dumb & dumber when you can't spell gargling.
But do answer the questions and stop evading like a lil boi.
Is a home invasion a crime?
mero wrote:*sucks theet*
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Home Invasion is not specifically defined in TT. As a consequence, the incident will be charged according to the components involved (e.g. burglary, armed robbery, assault, and murder).
It is impossible to know the number of home invasions without a count specific to that act.
adnj wrote:Whatever crime home invasion is charged as, apparently burglary and break in isn't always charged.
alfa wrote:zoom rader wrote:Habit7 is a home invasion a crime?
I noticed he has not answered. Says a lot about this bad habit
Habit7 wrote:adnj wrote:Whatever crime home invasion is charged as, apparently burglary and break in isn't always charged.
Quick reminder. The TTPS data I have been citing is reported crimes. So TTPS receive a report, if they have a suspect They are arrested under a certain law, and if the DPP sees fit they are charged and prosecuted under a certain law. It is possible at all three stages the law can be different.
eg. Christ Must List was arrested under the Anti Gang Act but was charged with Sedition.
Therefore posting a bunch of home invaders being prosecuted as robberies is irrelevant as it doesn't deny what they were initially reported to the TTPS as. Many times the DPP would choose a lesser or greater charge based on the strength or ease of the case.
Nevertheless, as home invasion is not an offence in TT law, the TTPS measures its rise or fall by Burglaries and Breakings. But even if you want to extend it to Robberies, Robberies are also down 1 Jan to 30 Apr 2024 in comparison to the same period last year.
It still doesn't give credence to the claim that home invasions are increasing, which was the premise of the reporter's question.
Habit7 is a home invasion a crime?Habit7 wrote:adnj wrote:Whatever crime home invasion is charged as, apparently burglary and break in isn't always charged.
Quick reminder. The TTPS data I have been citing is reported crimes. So TTPS receive a report, if they have a suspect They are arrested under a certain law, and if the DPP sees fit they are charged and prosecuted under a certain law. It is possible at all three stages the law can be different.
eg. Christ Must List was arrested under the Anti Gang Act but was charged with Sedition.
Therefore posting a bunch of home invaders being prosecuted as robberies is irrelevant as it doesn't deny what they were initially reported to the TTPS as. Many times the DPP would choose a lesser or greater charge based on the strength or ease of the case.
Nevertheless, as home invasion is not an offence in TT law, the TTPS measures its rise or fall by Burglaries and Breakings. But even if you want to extend it to Robberies, Robberies are also down 1 Jan to 30 Apr 2024 in comparison to the same period last year.
It still doesn't give credence to the claim that home invasions are increasing, which was the premise of the reporter's question.
It just shows hes a Cūñţ along with wing & meromaj. tom wrote:At least he getting paid to waste allyuh time and energy and deflect the entire focus of the forum for political influence.
Me eh know what allyuh getting from all this while knowing all of the above.
zoom rader wrote:Habit7 is a home invasion a crime?Habit7 wrote:adnj wrote:Whatever crime home invasion is charged as, apparently burglary and break in isn't always charged.
Quick reminder. The TTPS data I have been citing is reported crimes. So TTPS receive a report, if they have a suspect They are arrested under a certain law, and if the DPP sees fit they are charged and prosecuted under a certain law. It is possible at all three stages the law can be different.
eg. Christ Must List was arrested under the Anti Gang Act but was charged with Sedition.
Therefore posting a bunch of home invaders being prosecuted as robberies is irrelevant as it doesn't deny what they were initially reported to the TTPS as. Many times the DPP would choose a lesser or greater charge based on the strength or ease of the case.
Nevertheless, as home invasion is not an offence in TT law, the TTPS measures its rise or fall by Burglaries and Breakings. But even if you want to extend it to Robberies, Robberies are also down 1 Jan to 30 Apr 2024 in comparison to the same period last year.
It still doesn't give credence to the claim that home invasions are increasing, which was the premise of the reporter's question.
Just say yes or no and stop dancing aroundHabit7 wrote:zoom rader wrote:Habit7 is a home invasion a crime?Habit7 wrote:adnj wrote:Whatever crime home invasion is charged as, apparently burglary and break in isn't always charged.
Quick reminder. The TTPS data I have been citing is reported crimes. So TTPS receive a report, if they have a suspect They are arrested under a certain law, and if the DPP sees fit they are charged and prosecuted under a certain law. It is possible at all three stages the law can be different.
eg. Christ Must List was arrested under the Anti Gang Act but was charged with Sedition.
Therefore posting a bunch of home invaders being prosecuted as robberies is irrelevant as it doesn't deny what they were initially reported to the TTPS as. Many times the DPP would choose a lesser or greater charge based on the strength or ease of the case.
Nevertheless, as home invasion is not an offence in TT law, the TTPS measures its rise or fall by Burglaries and Breakings. But even if you want to extend it to Robberies, Robberies are also down 1 Jan to 30 Apr 2024 in comparison to the same period last year.
It still doesn't give credence to the claim that home invasions are increasing, which was the premise of the reporter's question.
If you are still asking this question then you are dyslexic.
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