2024 United States Presidential Elections - Donald Trump historic comeback!

[bluefete]

Adolf Hitler in full flight:

[Dizzy28]

You're watching a modern day Nero setting fire to global markets, but also burning Rome.

They conveniently left out Obama's first term
The S&P fell 15% within his first 100 days.It was still well within the crash of wall street investment banks.

Yeah that had to do with the ongoing financial crisis from before he was even inaugurated - not because of policies he implemented

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"Obama took office amid the financial crisis. Stocks were in a freefall and hit bottom nearly two months after his inauguration. Equities then rebounded and finished Mr. Obama’s first year up more than 30 percent.

Mr. Trump, by contrast, became president during one of the longest sustained bull markets in history, and stocks have continued to set record highs during his tenure."
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... -year.html

The graph is just first 100 days. Not first 100 days with conditionalities. I also mentioned the Wall Street crash anyhows so I thought that was understood that Bama's first 100 included that scenes.

Anyhows surely Trump is not savvy enough to come up with all these tariffs on his own. Would like to know who are and who they beholden to.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ Trump has been talking about tariffs since the 1980's


Trump’s Tariff Strategy Can Be Traced Back to the 1980s
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/arti ... the-1980s/
Seems he formed he view from watching Lou Dobbs

Trump's tariffs are a longtime goal fulfilled - and his biggest gamble yet
Donald Trump's politics have shifted considerably over his decades in the public sphere. But one thing he has been consistent on, since the 1980s, is his belief that tariffs are an effective means of boosting the US economy.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2xpev2l3o

There's another more theory floating around the newsrooms that in 2016 Trump asked his son in law Jared Kushner to find an economic advisor. Kushner found a book on Amazon titled "Death by China" written by Peter Navarro who is now an official counselor to POTUS. In the book Navarro quoted multiple times from one Ron Vara who spoke about tariffs and who the book said is an economic expert. Turned out that Ron Vara didn't exist and was just an anagram of "Navarro".

https://medium.com/illumination-curated ... 16b00cd60d

[Dizzy28]

^ Trump has been talking about tariffs since the 1980's


Trump’s Tariff Strategy Can Be Traced Back to the 1980s
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/arti ... the-1980s/
Seems he formed he view from watching Lou Dobbs

Trump's tariffs are a longtime goal fulfilled - and his biggest gamble yet
Donald Trump's politics have shifted considerably over his decades in the public sphere. But one thing he has been consistent on, since the 1980s, is his belief that tariffs are an effective means of boosting the US economy.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2xpev2l3o

There's another more recent theory floating around the newsrooms that in 2016 Trump asked his son in law Jared Kushner to find an economic advisor. Kushner found a book on Amazon titled "Death by China" written by Peter Navarro who is now an official counselor to POTUS. In the book Navarro quoted multiple times from one Ron Vara who spoke about tariffs and who the book said is an economic expert. Turned out that Ron Vara didn't exist and was just an anagram of "Navarro".

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Hmmm....for something so important to him why not do it in his first term though?

[j.o.e]

^ Trump has been talking about tariffs since the 1980's


Trump’s Tariff Strategy Can Be Traced Back to the 1980s
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/arti ... the-1980s/
Seems he formed he view from watching Lou Dobbs

Trump's tariffs are a longtime goal fulfilled - and his biggest gamble yet
Donald Trump's politics have shifted considerably over his decades in the public sphere. But one thing he has been consistent on, since the 1980s, is his belief that tariffs are an effective means of boosting the US economy.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2xpev2l3o

There's another more recent theory floating around the newsrooms that in 2016 Trump asked his son in law Jared Kushner to find an economic advisor. Kushner found a book on Amazon titled "Death by China" written by Peter Navarro who is now an official counselor to POTUS. In the book Navarro quoted multiple times from one Ron Vara who spoke about tariffs and who the book said is an economic expert. Turned out that Ron Vara didn't exist and was just an anagram of "Navarro".

aa26a352-1c66-40ab-a84c-c4981a367490.jpg

Hmmm....for something so important to him why not do it in his first term though?

He did

In January 2018, Trump imposed tariffs on solar panels and washing machines of 30–50%. In March 2018, he imposed tariffs on steel (25%) and aluminum (10%) from most countries, which, according to Morgan Stanley, covered an estimated 4.1% of U.S. imports.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ Trump has been talking about tariffs since the 1980's


Trump’s Tariff Strategy Can Be Traced Back to the 1980s
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/arti ... the-1980s/
Seems he formed he view from watching Lou Dobbs

Trump's tariffs are a longtime goal fulfilled - and his biggest gamble yet
Donald Trump's politics have shifted considerably over his decades in the public sphere. But one thing he has been consistent on, since the 1980s, is his belief that tariffs are an effective means of boosting the US economy.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2xpev2l3o

There's another more recent theory floating around the newsrooms that in 2016 Trump asked his son in law Jared Kushner to find an economic advisor. Kushner found a book on Amazon titled "Death by China" written by Peter Navarro who is now an official counselor to POTUS. In the book Navarro quoted multiple times from one Ron Vara who spoke about tariffs and who the book said is an economic expert. Turned out that Ron Vara didn't exist and was just an anagram of "Navarro".

aa26a352-1c66-40ab-a84c-c4981a367490.jpg

Hmmm....for something so important to him why not do it in his first term though?

Dunno. He now has support from the tech bros and the oligarchs who prefer chaos than stability
https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/the- ... is-between

[Dizzy28]

^ Trump has been talking about tariffs since the 1980's


Trump’s Tariff Strategy Can Be Traced Back to the 1980s
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/arti ... the-1980s/
Seems he formed he view from watching Lou Dobbs

Trump's tariffs are a longtime goal fulfilled - and his biggest gamble yet
Donald Trump's politics have shifted considerably over his decades in the public sphere. But one thing he has been consistent on, since the 1980s, is his belief that tariffs are an effective means of boosting the US economy.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2xpev2l3o

There's another more recent theory floating around the newsrooms that in 2016 Trump asked his son in law Jared Kushner to find an economic advisor. Kushner found a book on Amazon titled "Death by China" written by Peter Navarro who is now an official counselor to POTUS. In the book Navarro quoted multiple times from one Ron Vara who spoke about tariffs and who the book said is an economic expert. Turned out that Ron Vara didn't exist and was just an anagram of "Navarro".

aa26a352-1c66-40ab-a84c-c4981a367490.jpg

Hmmm....for something so important to him why not do it in his first term though?

He did

In January 2018, Trump imposed tariffs on solar panels and washing machines of 30–50%. In March 2018, he imposed tariffs on steel (25%) and aluminum (10%) from most countries, which, according to Morgan Stanley, covered an estimated 4.1% of U.S. imports.

Yea forgot about those. But still small scale compared to what he did last week.

[VexXx Dogg]

^ Trump has been talking about tariffs since the 1980's


Trump’s Tariff Strategy Can Be Traced Back to the 1980s
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/arti ... the-1980s/
Seems he formed he view from watching Lou Dobbs

Trump's tariffs are a longtime goal fulfilled - and his biggest gamble yet
Donald Trump's politics have shifted considerably over his decades in the public sphere. But one thing he has been consistent on, since the 1980s, is his belief that tariffs are an effective means of boosting the US economy.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2xpev2l3o

There's another more recent theory floating around the newsrooms that in 2016 Trump asked his son in law Jared Kushner to find an economic advisor. Kushner found a book on Amazon titled "Death by China" written by Peter Navarro who is now an official counselor to POTUS. In the book Navarro quoted multiple times from one Ron Vara who spoke about tariffs and who the book said is an economic expert. Turned out that Ron Vara didn't exist and was just an anagram of "Navarro".

aa26a352-1c66-40ab-a84c-c4981a367490.jpg

Hmmm....for something so important to him why not do it in his first term though?

Maybe AI.
I won't put it past them to use AI to draft some of these harebrained policies with zero input from the technocrats who know better.

[redmanjp]

so there were 'hands off' protestors in various states protesting against trump, but apparently, some of them were paid to be there

https://x.com/TheEXECUTlONER_/status/1909096140529615105

this may be from a different one from years ago but u get my point



so remember, it's like we watching a movie- if u think it have plenty ppl against trump, it have a lot of actors too

[The Bamboo Online]

Elon Musk removed a video of a $1M winner after she says she got money to 'vote'
"My name’s Ekaterina Deistler," she said in a video posted Monday morning. "I did exactly what Elon Musk told everyone to do: sign the petition, refer friends and family, vote, and now I have a million dollars."
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/yes-elon-musk-vote-buying-is-against-law-federal-wisconsin

[bluefete]

“These countries are calling us up. Kissing my a**. They are dying to make a deal,” Trump told a group of Republicans on Tuesday evening, hours before the tariffs were set to take hold.

He described foreign leaders essentially groveling to avoid the new tariffs: “Please, please sir, make a deal. I’ll do anything sir.”


https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/08/poli ... index.html

[zoom rader]

“These countries are calling us up. Kissing my a**. They are dying to make a deal,” Trump told a group of Republicans on Tuesday evening, hours before the tariffs were set to take hold.

He described foreign leaders essentially groveling to avoid the new tariffs: “Please, please sir, make a deal. I’ll do anything sir.”


https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/08/poli ... index.html

Yeah but who?

Counties dont care to make any deals

[hover11]

BREAKING: China on Wednesday said it would increase its reciprocal tariffs on U.S. goods to 84% from the previous 34%, according to state media reports.

The measure came after President Trump's additional tariffs on Chinese goods came into force just after midnight, bringing the total rate of tariffs on Chinese goods to 104%.

Read more: https://abcnews.visitlink.me/ZBGYwD

[st7]

a man actually put a link.

the times they are a-changing

[SMc]

US markets open soon- it would be interesting to see where they open at after the Beijing announcement- negative double-digit is a possibility over the next couple days

[Dizzy28]

The US has put a pause on or reduced tariffs for 75 countries for a period of 90 days.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cp8vyy35g3mt

[hover11]

What about the penguins?? Did he lower the tariffs on the penguins too? Why did he tarriff a country that only has penguins

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

The US has put a pause on or reduced tariffs for 75 countries for a period of 90 days.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cp8vyy35g3mt

But increased China's tariffs which now totals 125%
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump- ... rcna200346

President Donald Trump announced a 90-day pause on tariffs for more than 75 trading partners that did not retaliate after his sweeping duties went into effect. China, which did place steep retaliatory tariffs on U.S. goods, will now see an even larger hike in levies on its products, totaling 125%, Trump said.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said after Trump's pause that the tariffs announced a week ago served as a way to get countries to come to the negotiating table.

Both China and the European Union are imposing a fresh set of retaliatory duties on U.S. imports. Beijing said it was hiking retaliatory tariffs to 84% from 34%, while the EU levies, which would come into effect Tuesday, would range from 10% to 25% on more than $24 billion worth of American goods.

[The_Honourable]

[VexXx Dogg]

The US has put a pause on or reduced tariffs for 75 countries for a period of 90 days.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cp8vyy35g3mt

But increased China's tariffs which now totals 125%
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump- ... rcna200346

President Donald Trump announced a 90-day pause on tariffs for more than 75 trading partners that did not retaliate after his sweeping duties went into effect. China, which did place steep retaliatory tariffs on U.S. goods, will now see an even larger hike in levies on its products, totaling 125%, Trump said.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said after Trump's pause that the tariffs announced a week ago served as a way to get countries to come to the negotiating table.

Both China and the European Union are imposing a fresh set of retaliatory duties on U.S. imports. Beijing said it was hiking retaliatory tariffs to 84% from 34%, while the EU levies, which would come into effect Tuesday, would range from 10% to 25% on more than $24 billion worth of American goods.

Economic blackmail and extortion.

[triniterribletim]

Allyuh men beat up so much, you should have trusted Lord Donald and bought the dip. Green everywhere today. I does usually only do a small bit of trading to just top up my account, but every "crisis" is an opportunity. This was the greatest one since the pandemic.

[bluefete]

Ah confused.

What are the 75 countries on which he has paused the tariffs?

Did he pause the tariffs at the original rates but dropped them to 10% for the 90 days? YES!!

Is he still charging tariffs for the 90 days but ONLY at 10%? YES!!!!

For all other countries (not the 75), except China, will the tariffs continue at their original rates?

Is it 6 of one and 1/2 dozen of the other for T&T because Stuartie went crawling to Rubio?

[bluefete]

WHY TRUMP CAVED!

President Donald Trump was forced to backtrack on his sweeping tariff plans because of a 'fire sale' in the bond market which could have triggered economic meltdown.

Alongside causing turmoil in the stock market, Trump's sweeping tariff plans sparked a major US government bonds sell-off, the likes of which had not been seen since the depths of the Covid-19 crisis.

Experts are saying that it was this, rather than simply the 'art of the deal,' which caused the White House to backtrack on its tariff proposals.

While the bond market may seem far removed for regular Americans, experts warn how it can have an impact on mortgage rates.

A rise in Treasury yields, which move inversely to prices, means government borrowing costs will surge higher.

Rising borrowing costs tend to filter across and cause an increase in mortgage rates, which have previously been on a downward trajectory in recent weeks.

'The spike in bond yields means mortgage rates have quickly unwound the decreases of the past few weeks and are moving back toward 7 percent,' Greg McBride, chief financial analyst at Bankrate, told the Daily Mail on Wednesday.

Danielle Hale, chief economist at Realtor.com, warned major moves in the bond market will likely hit consumers.

'Perspectives will continue to change as the situation evolves, but for now, this has spilled over into mortgage backed securities meaning that consumers are likely to see higher mortgage rates and further volatility ahead,' she said.

Mortgage rates are closely linked to the yield on the 10-year US Treasury bond, though not directly tied.

When Treasury yields rise, mortgage rates typically go up as well - and when they fall, mortgage rates tend to drop.

This is because lenders use Treasury yields as a benchmark, adding a margin to cover risks and costs.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/yourmoney/a ... riffs.html

[daring dragoon]

the world is a big place, if america want to practice protectionism i think the rest of the world should let them be. time to change the western world taste in food, movies, tv, sports etc. lock of the US tv and switch to UK tv, stop showing hollywood and show movies from india, africa and uk and china, fork the nfl and nba and watch cricket and nhl. the world can now include venezuela, cuba, latin america as a new market and completely stop exporting all goods to US. didnt we learn nothing when trump halted all exports of N95 during covid saying americans important and let the world use chinese KN95 an what happened? the world survived without a made in america mask. time to change.

[The Bamboo Online]

Trump did it….Demand for USD will finally go down in Trinidad as prices in USA stores ramp up people and biz men will order less online. We will return to the ole days and buy more from local traders who buy directly from China as their prices suddenly seem cheaper. No more flying to NYC to fill suitcase, less barrels of goodies sending back. Short lines at the port to clear stuff. Skybox will go out of biz. Opportunity abounds

[MaxPower]

Trump did it….Demand for USD will finally go down in Trinidad as prices in USA stores ramp up people and biz men will order less online. We will return to the ole days and buy more from local traders who buy directly from China as their prices suddenly seem cheaper. No more flying to NYC to fill suitcase, less barrels of goodies sending back. Short lines at the port to clear stuff. Skybox will go out of biz. Opportunity abounds

I eh buying not 1F local that is non-perishable.

[paid_influencer]

Trump did it….Demand for USD will finally go down in Trinidad as prices in USA stores ramp up people and biz men will order less online. We will return to the ole days and buy more from local traders who buy directly from China as their prices suddenly seem cheaper. No more flying to NYC to fill suitcase, less barrels of goodies sending back. Short lines at the port to clear stuff. Skybox will go out of biz. Opportunity abounds

the average biz men wasn't getting USD to start with... all usd going to the established big players who already in a monopoly position because is them alone getting usd.

but what we might see is "Made in China" becoming a premium label where there is no substitute, while all the other eastern manufacturing countries becoming the preferred source for trash cheap goods.

[VexXx Dogg]

Man like Dizzy could prob see these signs better than me.

Would this trade war (as it were) strengthen the momentum for BRICS common currency to replace USD for trade?

[Dizzy28]

Man like Dizzy could prob see these signs better than me.

Would this trade war (as it were) strengthen the momentum for BRICS common currency to replace USD for trade?

Will get a better idea about how the people in the financial capital of one of the BRICS feels about this whole scenes next week.

The risk is definitely there for de-dollarization.

BRICS IMO lacks a common coherency to have a common currency.
They all have different economic and political interests. Heck China and India are locked in a protracted land dispute over an entire Indian State and parts of other Indian States. India's nuclear submarines and ICBMs are meant as a deterrence to Beijing not to Islamabad.

[hover11]

The Trump administration has moved to classify more than 6,000 living immigrants as dead, cancelling their Social Security numbers and effectively wiping out their ability to work or receive benefits in an effort to get them to leave the country, according to two people familiar with the situation.

Read more: https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/wor ... them-leave #GLNRToday


This move is actually diabolical yet brilliant at the same time it's like he is essentially forcing their hands to leave by cutting them off from any sort of benefits