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Who do you believe will win General Elections 2025?

Poll ended at April 28th, 2025, 9:17 pm

People's National Movement (PNM)
23
48%
United National Congress (UNC) + Coalition of Interests (PEP, COP, OWTU, LOVE)
21
44%
Patriotic Front (PF)
2
4%
Tie/Deadlock
2
4%
 
Total votes: 48

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby zoom rader » December 20th, 2024, 11:25 am

wing wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
wing wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:Hoover and Paid, tell me what happened to the jubilee oil find. Will Kamla cause production to increase back to 100000 BPD?
Study the situation with the sinking dragon gas deal. Kamla not in power so she not important, your priorities are skewed

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Kamla not in power so she not important.


Learn to think for yourself, ZR is just your dominatrix.
Then why u keep beating up and focusing on her ?

You know PNM not winning Tobago and that is the golden key to win an election overall
Kamla wants to be the next PM, that's why it's important. Tobago will be important, what would Kamla offer to Tobago?
But according to u and others , she's set to loose.

So why beat upself and take abuse on Tuner.

Why not focus on building urself, maybe go back to school get more qualified.
I'm good, blogging pays well, I get enjoyment in seeing you and your submissive frothing up. Also, since PNM will win in 2025 and 2030, why you beating up day after day, go in the rum shop, if you lucky, cirrhosis of the liver will give you the peace that you seek.
I here over 24 yrs and no one on tuner can get me to forth up as u said


Idiots like u come and go all the time.

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby zoom rader » December 20th, 2024, 11:25 am

one eye wrote:Zoom

Exactly what I said.
U say nothing but a plie of

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby zoom rader » December 20th, 2024, 11:30 am

alfa wrote:Congress of the people seems to be Congress of the person
It only takes one person to win a seat .

Any seat PNM loose is a victory and upliftment to Citizens.

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby wing » December 20th, 2024, 11:49 am

zoom rader wrote:
alfa wrote:Congress of the people seems to be Congress of the person
It only takes one person to win a seat .

Any seat PNM loose is a victory and upliftment to Citizens.
For PNM to lose there must be an alternative which is better than them. Unfortunately, the alternatives are dog compared to the PNM.

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Postby hover11 » December 20th, 2024, 11:51 am

wing wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
alfa wrote:Congress of the people seems to be Congress of the person
It only takes one person to win a seat .

Any seat PNM loose is a victory and upliftment to Citizens.
For PNM to lose there must be an alternative which is better than them. Unfortunately, the alternatives are dog compared to the PNM.
PNM = WIng=Mero =FAILURE=

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Postby zoom rader » December 20th, 2024, 3:56 pm

wing wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
alfa wrote:Congress of the people seems to be Congress of the person
It only takes one person to win a seat .

Any seat PNM loose is a victory and upliftment to Citizens.
For PNM to lose there must be an alternative which is better than them. Unfortunately, the alternatives are dog compared to the PNM.
PNM still not wining Tobago , and Tobago holds the keys to government.

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Postby paid_influencer » December 20th, 2024, 6:00 pm

philip going to be in the mall tomorrow afternoon if anybody want to see him

mall being gulf city

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Postby sMASH » December 20th, 2024, 6:07 pm

wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:Former Congress of the People (COP) leader Prakash Ramadhar is back as interim leader of the party.

Read more:
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/prakash ... 1851f6a89f
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Repost. Again I ask, what happened to the coalition of interests?
Stand your ground legislation and more FUL's , that gets my vote.
Can't wait to greet my friendly neighborhood pnm spawn

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby wing » December 21st, 2024, 1:38 pm

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/kamla-w ... 322bd2dfb3

Beggar being chooser....

Kamla wants no part of alliance with Gary’s NTA

Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar has made it clear that the United National Congress (UNC) will not be “in any accommodation” with Gary Griffith’s National Transformation Alliance (NTA) ahead of the upcoming general elections.

She made this clear yesterday, in response to questions on the recent amalgamation of the NTA, Congress of the People (COP) and HOPE political parties into the Progressive Alliance (PA).

Persad-Bissessar, however, confirmed that discussions had been held with COP and HOPE members.

“It’s public information that the UNC will not be in any accommodation with Gary Griffith and the NTA for GE 2025, that is definite, it’s been made clear over and over. The UNC Natex felt that it was our responsibility to the electorate to offer the COP and HOPE a fair hearing, we did our duty and reached out for discussions. They have chosen a different approach without the UNC and we respect their choice.”

She noted that requests to the COP and NTA for information surrounding their parties were not readily accessible.

“What is your party’s registered membership? What is your membership in each constituency? Who elected your party’s executive? Who elected your party’s political leader? When was your last internal elections? What is the scale of your party’s political infrastructure? These are some of the questions that the public and the UNC has asked the COP, NTA and HOPE over the past months but no answers were forthcoming.”

The Opposition Leader said the trade unions and the Progressive Empowerment Party (PEP) provided most of the requested information on their parties.

Also contacted yesterday, Griffith, said the alliance will not align with parties engaged in mudslinging.

“What we are not going to be part of is character assassination, demonising people, making vulgar remarks from one political leader assigned and linked to a coalition of interest from the UNC, it is disappointing. I am aware of the standards of Kamla Persad-Bissessar and UNC and that kind of gutter politics is exactly why half of the country wants the PNM removed in the first place.”

Griffith warned against joining with the PEP.

“To have someone like Phillip Alexander, where every comment is to attack, destroy and discredit, we want no part of that, that is why he was never invited to the alliance of these parties.”

Meanwhile, new COP interim leader Prakash Ramadhar said his re-entry to the political gayelle was the result of overwhelming calls to return and challenge the PNM at the polls. He did not shoot down any future alliances with the UNC.

“The UNC is the dominant Opposition, they are the opposition to the Government and certainly any successful attempt at restoring what is right and proper in this country must include all of the political entities who are willing and conduct themselves in a manner that is open to accommodating each other and I do not like what I’ve been seeing, some of the friction unnecessarily, but part of the function of the COP is to bridge gaps and make peace and ensure that the society succeeds.”

Addressing the latest alliance of parties, political analyst Dr Winford James yesterday said the resurfacing of third parties during the election season suggested that the electorate was considering change.

“There are forces out there regarded by the population as more hopeful and superior to what is on offer by the mainstream parties. The PNM has been here for nearly 10 years and people don’t see them as having any freshness or any newness or any innovative solutions and while die-hards will remain die-hards, I get the impression people from both parties are dissatisfied,” James said.

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Postby zoom rader » December 21st, 2024, 3:17 pm

wing wrote:https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/kamla-wants-no-part-of-alliance-with-garys-nta-6.2.2190581.322bd2dfb3


Beggar being chooser....
Does not matter

PNM is not winning Tobago and bago holds the keys

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Postby K74T » December 21st, 2024, 4:16 pm

paid_influencer wrote:philip going to be in the mall tomorrow afternoon if anybody want to see him

mall being gulf city
Lmao circus clown

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Postby paid_influencer » December 21st, 2024, 4:52 pm

u gone mall today k74t?

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Postby paid_influencer » December 21st, 2024, 4:58 pm

wing wrote:https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/kamla-wants-no-part-of-alliance-with-garys-nta-6.2.2190581.322bd2dfb3

Beggar being chooser....


gary is a poison pill to any govt that would be formed. think how it going to play out if gary holds the seats forming government and can make demands for every little thing.

Kamla right to refuse the deal


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Postby paid_influencer » December 21st, 2024, 5:28 pm

Here's what Gary can do if this is really about putting country first (and not himself getting a position in government):

1. Write down a list of actionable policy steps for the new government and submit it for internal approval by "his" party (since the NTA is an entity separate and distinct from Gary).

2. Agree to stand-down from the election and instead vote for the UNC if those actionable policy steps are accepted onto the UNC platform.

3. Submit it to Kamla, attached with a membership list of his party showing the amount of support the UNC stands to gain by accepting those actionable policy steps on their platform.

This follows a logical bargain where something is traded for another thing (political support ---> government policy).

But lewwe be real, it was never about actionable policy steps in the new government. It was always about Gary getting something for Gary.

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Postby MaxPower » December 21st, 2024, 5:48 pm

sMASH wrote:Stand your ground legislation and more FUL's , that gets my vote.
Can't wait to greet my friendly neighborhood pnm spawn


sMASH,

The trigger happy behavior is what will make it bad for all of us bro.

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Postby paid_influencer » December 21st, 2024, 6:05 pm

lemme use smash as an example if he doesn't mind. he is trading political support in this election for stand-your-ground legislation

philip traded his support to get a halt on cashless society and WEF

what gary and the nta looking to trade their support for? what actionable policy or specific legislation they want ?

put it out there. tell kamla what specific legislation they want and quantify what support she will gain from adding it onto the UNC platform.

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Postby The_Honourable » December 21st, 2024, 11:06 pm

You can question Gary all you like, he's moving smart.

His first chess move was launching his candidacy for St. Joseph which is a marginal seat, and he did so before UNC screened candidates.

Many in T&T believe that Gary is one of the best Commissioners of Police. Whether we think that is true or not is irrelevant at this point. With crime running rampant especially murders over 600, it will be the main talking point for general elections. Gary with his experience in national security matters has some political stock as he was both Minister of National Security and Commissioner of Police, positions that Hinds and Erla catastrophically failed in.

Gary knows fully well that Kamla will come back calling for him during the GE season if it is found that his candidacy threatens the chances of UNC winning that seat. Kamla knows this also... this is where Phillip comes in.

Kamla doesn't need Phillip but Phillip needs Kamla to remain politically relevant. His first assignment is to go after Gary hoping to weaken his chances and not have Kamla be forced into any discussion and accommodation with him and the NTA.

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Postby paid_influencer » December 21st, 2024, 11:26 pm

What would an "accommodation" look like though? If it involves Gary getting a seat and potentially destabilising the new government, it is a non-starter.

Who is the leader of the "Progressive Alliance," btw? Prakash or Gary?

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Postby The_Honourable » December 21st, 2024, 11:40 pm

So far, the alliance is not official.

The NTA, COP and HOPE parties were planning to sign a MoU and form the Progressive Alliance. Out of the blue, Prakash Ramadhar comes back, and he is now the interim political leader of the COP. Ramadhar then states that he is not going into any coalition with anybody until he strengthens the COP.

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/12/21/ramadh ... ition-yet/

After getting the party in order and confirmed being the political leader of the COP, it is a very high chance that Ramadhar will align himself with the UNC as he did under his previous leadership a decade ago which caused the decline of the COP. If this happens, Gary and the NTA will start becoming isolated.

The HOPE party is really Timothy Hamel Smith, Louis Lee Sing and Karen Nunez-Tesheira. Kamla can always offer for example Timothy - Attorney General, Lee Sing - Speaker of the House, and Karen - Finance or a State Board position connected to the Ministry of Finance. If they bite, it will be Gary all alone with no coalition.

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“What is your party’s registered membership? What is your membership in each constituency? Who elected your party’s executive? Who elected your party’s political leader? When was your last internal elections? What is the scale of your party’s political infrastructure? These are some of the questions that the public and the UNC has asked the COP, NTA and HOPE over the past months but no answers were forthcoming.”


Gary and/or Prakash (whoever is the leader) also need to submit this information to be considered for any future cooperation.

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Postby paid_influencer » December 21st, 2024, 11:49 pm

The_Honourable wrote:So far, the alliance is not official.

The NTA, COP and HOPE parties were planning to sign a MoU and form the Progressive Alliance. Out of the blue, Prakash Ramadhar comes back, and he is now the interim political leader of the COP. Ramadhar then states that he is not going into any coalition with anybody until he strengthens the COP.

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/12/21/ramadh ... ition-yet/

After getting the party in order and confirmed being the political leader of the COP, it is a very high chance that Ramadhar will align himself with the UNC as he did under his previous leadership a decade ago which caused the decline of the COP. If this happens, Gary and the NTA will start becoming isolated.

The HOPE party is really Timothy Hamel Smith, Louis Lee Sing and Karen Nunez-Tesheira. Kamla can always offer for example Timothy - Attorney General, Lee Sing - Speaker of the House, and Karen - Finance or a State Board position connected to the Ministry of Finance. If they bite, it will be Gary all alone with no coalition.


I read that and in my head I remembered everything I hated about the chaos of the PP years.

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Postby sMASH » December 22nd, 2024, 7:39 am

MaxPower wrote:
sMASH wrote:Stand your ground legislation and more FUL's , that gets my vote.
Can't wait to greet my friendly neighborhood pnm spawn


sMASH,

The trigger happy behavior is what will make it bad for all of us bro.
So u really think citizens are better off under the protection of our astute police ?
Them just as wutless as the criminals they pretend to pursue .




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Postby zoom rader » December 22nd, 2024, 8:21 am

The_Honourable wrote:So far, the alliance is not official.

The NTA, COP and HOPE parties were planning to sign a MoU and form the Progressive Alliance. Out of the blue, Prakash Ramadhar comes back, and he is now the interim political leader of the COP. Ramadhar then states that he is not going into any coalition with anybody until he strengthens the COP.

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/12/21/ramadh ... ition-yet/

After getting the party in order and confirmed being the political leader of the COP, it is a very high chance that Ramadhar will align himself with the UNC as he did under his previous leadership a decade ago which caused the decline of the COP. If this happens, Gary and the NTA will start becoming isolated.

The HOPE party is really Timothy Hamel Smith, Louis Lee Sing and Karen Nunez-Tesheira. Kamla can always offer for example Timothy - Attorney General, Lee Sing - Speaker of the House, and Karen - Finance or a State Board position connected to the Ministry of Finance. If they bite, it will be Gary all alone with no coalition.
As long as they can win a seat and remove PNM one by one.

End goal kick PNM out

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Postby wing » December 22nd, 2024, 9:29 am

zoom rader wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:So far, the alliance is not official.

The NTA, COP and HOPE parties were planning to sign a MoU and form the Progressive Alliance. Out of the blue, Prakash Ramadhar comes back, and he is now the interim political leader of the COP. Ramadhar then states that he is not going into any coalition with anybody until he strengthens the COP.

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/12/21/ramadh ... ition-yet/

After getting the party in order and confirmed being the political leader of the COP, it is a very high chance that Ramadhar will align himself with the UNC as he did under his previous leadership a decade ago which caused the decline of the COP. If this happens, Gary and the NTA will start becoming isolated.

The HOPE party is really Timothy Hamel Smith, Louis Lee Sing and Karen Nunez-Tesheira. Kamla can always offer for example Timothy - Attorney General, Lee Sing - Speaker of the House, and Karen - Finance or a State Board position connected to the Ministry of Finance. If they bite, it will be Gary all alone with no coalition.
As long as they can win a seat and remove PNM one by one.

End goal kick PNM out
So you really want an exchange but Indo in power. Racist and licker.

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Postby mero » December 22nd, 2024, 9:39 am

paid_influencer wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:So far, the alliance is not official.

The NTA, COP and HOPE parties were planning to sign a MoU and form the Progressive Alliance. Out of the blue, Prakash Ramadhar comes back, and he is now the interim political leader of the COP. Ramadhar then states that he is not going into any coalition with anybody until he strengthens the COP.

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/12/21/ramadh ... ition-yet/

After getting the party in order and confirmed being the political leader of the COP, it is a very high chance that Ramadhar will align himself with the UNC as he did under his previous leadership a decade ago which caused the decline of the COP. If this happens, Gary and the NTA will start becoming isolated.

The HOPE party is really Timothy Hamel Smith, Louis Lee Sing and Karen Nunez-Tesheira. Kamla can always offer for example Timothy - Attorney General, Lee Sing - Speaker of the House, and Karen - Finance or a State Board position connected to the Ministry of Finance. If they bite, it will be Gary all alone with no coalition.


I read that and in my head I remembered everything I hated about the chaos of the PP years.
10 years later and we right back here AGAAAIIINNN??

Cambriage Analytica, kamla needs you asap.

Call de election now?

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Postby paid_influencer » December 22nd, 2024, 9:44 am

the rig that fall down should be on d new coat of arms

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Postby zoom rader » December 22nd, 2024, 10:14 am

wing wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:So far, the alliance is not official.

The NTA, COP and HOPE parties were planning to sign a MoU and form the Progressive Alliance. Out of the blue, Prakash Ramadhar comes back, and he is now the interim political leader of the COP. Ramadhar then states that he is not going into any coalition with anybody until he strengthens the COP.

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/12/21/ramadh ... ition-yet/

After getting the party in order and confirmed being the political leader of the COP, it is a very high chance that Ramadhar will align himself with the UNC as he did under his previous leadership a decade ago which caused the decline of the COP. If this happens, Gary and the NTA will start becoming isolated.

The HOPE party is really Timothy Hamel Smith, Louis Lee Sing and Karen Nunez-Tesheira. Kamla can always offer for example Timothy - Attorney General, Lee Sing - Speaker of the House, and Karen - Finance or a State Board position connected to the Ministry of Finance. If they bite, it will be Gary all alone with no coalition.
As long as they can win a seat and remove PNM one by one.

End goal kick PNM out
So you really want an exchange but Indo in power. Racist and licker.
Non of my post said anything about indo power


PNM is not winning Tobago, and as far as I know bago does not have none afros going up for elections.

Your racist point is useless and shows how you think
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Postby zoom rader » December 22nd, 2024, 10:16 am

mero wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:So far, the alliance is not official.

The NTA, COP and HOPE parties were planning to sign a MoU and form the Progressive Alliance. Out of the blue, Prakash Ramadhar comes back, and he is now the interim political leader of the COP. Ramadhar then states that he is not going into any coalition with anybody until he strengthens the COP.

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/12/21/ramadh ... ition-yet/

After getting the party in order and confirmed being the political leader of the COP, it is a very high chance that Ramadhar will align himself with the UNC as he did under his previous leadership a decade ago which caused the decline of the COP. If this happens, Gary and the NTA will start becoming isolated.

The HOPE party is really Timothy Hamel Smith, Louis Lee Sing and Karen Nunez-Tesheira. Kamla can always offer for example Timothy - Attorney General, Lee Sing - Speaker of the House, and Karen - Finance or a State Board position connected to the Ministry of Finance. If they bite, it will be Gary all alone with no coalition.


I read that and in my head I remembered everything I hated about the chaos of the PP years.
10 years later and we right back here AGAAAIIINNN??

Cambriage Analytica, kamla needs you asap.

Call de election now?
Yes PNM track records speaks a lot

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby MaxPower » December 22nd, 2024, 10:21 am

Zoom, my brother.

Let’s not sell the people dreams.

A PNM victory is highly possible. Is relllllll citizens voting PNM, allyuh KNOW this.

Can T&T handle another PNM Govt? Yes they can as they did before. Bawl and cry we go dead and indian time to dead chants and grass eating memes…..but along with everything else, the typical Trini has the 7 day memory/beat up embedded in their DNA.

Life goes on, Trinis are a highly tolerant people and their asses can remain happy through the hardest times, and the harder times to come.

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Postby zoom rader » December 22nd, 2024, 10:26 am

MaxPower wrote:Zoom, my brother.

Let’s not sell the people dreams.

A PNM victory is highly possible. Is relllllll citizens voting PNM, allyuh KNOW this.

Can T&T handle another PNM Govt? Yes they can as they did before. Bawl and cry we go dead and indian time to dead chants and grass eating memes…..but along with everything else, the typical Trini has the 7 day memory/beat up embedded in their DNA.

Life goes on, Trinis are a highly tolerant people and their asses can remain happy through the hardest times, and the harder times to come.
Max, you are too good to be on tuner.


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