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Re: *** Official 2021 under the PNM Thread***

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » January 2nd, 2021, 12:49 pm

Imagine pnmites defending this bullsheit by saying the govt want us to buy local and support tcl....ah tell yuh pnm people DOTISH bad

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Re: *** Official 2021 under the PNM Thread***

Postby Habit7 » January 2nd, 2021, 1:44 pm

De Dragon wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:It also reinforces Habit7's dostishness, as Guy Smiley was appointed, not elected, so the "popular mandate" of JUHN Scarfy and the LFDRFD PNM kleptocracy doesn't count :roll:

Popular mandate does not mean he was elected. Nowhere in my post I said that.

Reading & comprehension

"In politics, a mandate is the authority granted by a constituency to act as its representative. The concept of a government having a legitimate mandate to govern via the fair winning of a democratic election is a central idea of representative democracy."
Arse, popular mandate refers to the successful party in an ELECTION, Guy Smiley was not ELECTED. You're trying to make up for the dotish you didn't use when you weren't here or what?

The party of which he was the chief energy policymaker received the popular mandate to govern again. So while he was not on the ballot as an individual, his policies were one part of the platform that each candidate had to campaign on. In the same way, Kevin Ramnarine was not on the ballot but PP campaigned on his policy achievements and lost the popular mandate.

So Khan received the popular mandate. Only for you now and crab for the next 5yrs because you are so bitter, you cannot read and comprehend basic English.

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Re: *** Official 2021 under the PNM Thread***

Postby De Dragon » January 2nd, 2021, 2:00 pm

Habit7 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:It also reinforces Habit7's dostishness, as Guy Smiley was appointed, not elected, so the "popular mandate" of JUHN Scarfy and the LFDRFD PNM kleptocracy doesn't count :roll:

Popular mandate does not mean he was elected. Nowhere in my post I said that.

Reading & comprehension

"In politics, a mandate is the authority granted by a constituency to act as its representative. The concept of a government having a legitimate mandate to govern via the fair winning of a democratic election is a central idea of representative democracy."
Arse, popular mandate refers to the successful party in an ELECTION, Guy Smiley was not ELECTED. You're trying to make up for the dotish you didn't use when you weren't here or what?

The party of which he was the chief energy policymaker received the popular mandate to govern again. So while he was not on the ballot as an individual, his policies were one part of the platform that each candidate had to campaign on. In the same way, Kevin Ramnarine was not on the ballot but PP campaigned on his policy achievements and lost the popular mandate.

So Khan received the popular mandate. Only for you now and crab for the next 5yrs because you are so bitter, you cannot read and comprehend basic English.

You're still burning through your unused dotish quota I see :roll:
Having the worst MoE in recent memory isin no way shape or form, a "popular mandate"
Ironic that even while quoting the very definition of a political mandate you're arseholishly accusing me of not being able to "read and comprehend" :roll:

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Re: *** Official 2021 under the PNM Thread***

Postby zoom rader » January 2nd, 2021, 2:41 pm

Habit7 wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:Habit7... "he just received the popular mandate" is a poor argument. For persons who not in the know reading your comments, they would think Khan only became Minister of Energy in August 2020 and his critics are unreasonable calling for his resignation.

The fact is Franklin Khan has been minister of energy from 31st October 2016 to 9th August 2020, and then from 19th August 2020 to present. That's 4+ years where the PNM has been in control since Sept 2015 which is 5+ years. Khan might be a nice guy in person and does have some experience in the energy sector but there is no doubt that he is the worst energy minister in recent memory where actual energy technocrats in the industry have little respect for him. Rowley had the opportunity to appoint someone new for the ministry after the 2020 General Elections but he did not which says a lot.

And just like I told the other guy, Franklin Khan and nearly every minister of Energy in most O&G producing countries would have to be the worst energy minister too. The energy markets suffered a shock in 2014 and haven't recovered since. It even takes 5 years to bring a field into production, so blaming Khan who has only been there for 4yrs is kinda stupid.

There is no magician to turn around TT's energy sector when the external forces are against us.

zoom rader wrote:Tings bad when honourable have to respond to Habit7 propaganda. Even Redman ditch him today
You have no shame, after a man just call out your folly for blaming PNM for something UNC did.

A tuner with actual credibility would have been humbled, but for you it just another day in the office.
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Why don't you read what I wrote to bluefete. No way I did argue with Bluefete on this when he posted the edvendence.

I am normally the one that correct tuners on misleading info and expose the spin coming from you arses.

There are many times I have corrected bluefete on historical info and I don't make an issue out of it cause everyone learns something. We can't learn anything from you or Redman

Both you and Redman always post spin and misleading info.

Some tuners I don't dig in to cause they are not bias and not viewed as racist tribal idiots like you.

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Re: *** Official 2021 under the PNM Thread***

Postby Habit7 » January 2nd, 2021, 3:34 pm

zoom rader wrote:Kant Habit7

Why don't you read what I wrote to bluefete. No way I did argue with Bluefete on this when he posted the edvendence.

I am normally the one that correct tuners on misleading info and expose the spin coming from you arses.

There are many times I have corrected bluefete on historical info and I don't make an issue out of it cause everyone learns something. We can't learn anything from you or Redman

Both you and Redman always post spin and misleading info.

Some tuners I don't dig in to cause they are not bias and not viewed as racist tribal idiots like you.

So you want to be commended because you didn't argue? bluefete called out your spin, rather than admit you had no evidence for spin, you demanded evidence from him when you had none. Having had it confirmed that you tried to spin, you were dead to rights.

Not being discouraged, you accusing ppl of spreading propaganda when you were just found guilty yourself?

This is why like you all need 22 doses of electionol in 19hrs. Love him or hate him, Franklin Khan got the popular mandate to continue his job. He was appointed by a political party that received the popular mandate in 2015 and again in 2020 after he stood at the helm of their energy policy. Disagree with me all you want but somebody has the popular mandate as energy minister and it is surely not Kevin Ramnarine.

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Re: *** Official 2021 under the PNM Thread***

Postby De Dragon » January 2nd, 2021, 3:49 pm

Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Kant Habit7

Why don't you read what I wrote to bluefete. No way I did argue with Bluefete on this when he posted the edvendence.

I am normally the one that correct tuners on misleading info and expose the spin coming from you arses.

There are many times I have corrected bluefete on historical info and I don't make an issue out of it cause everyone learns something. We can't learn anything from you or Redman

Both you and Redman always post spin and misleading info.

Some tuners I don't dig in to cause they are not bias and not viewed as racist tribal idiots like you.

So you want to be commended because you didn't argue? bluefete called out your spin, rather than admit you had no evidence for spin, you demanded evidence from him when you had none. Having had it confirmed that you tried to spin, you were dead to rights.

Not being discouraged, you accusing ppl of spreading propaganda when you were just found guilty yourself?

This is why like you all need 22 doses of electionol in 19hrs. Love him or hate him, Franklin Khan got the popular mandate to continue his job. He was appointed by a political party that received the popular mandate in 2015 and again in 2020 after he stood at the helm of their energy policy. Disagree with me all you want but somebody has the popular mandate as energy minister and it is surely not Kevin Ramnarine.

Poomcie, you realize that you are saying two different things right? My God if it's one thing you LFDRFD PNM fanboys are is persistent in ollour dotishness! You and the next one who trying to sell some plastic bags for about a decade now :roll: should form a tag team. Ollour could call ourselves Dotish X 2, or The Dotish Twins, or Dotish PNM Sheep or something similarly catchy.

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Re: *** Official 2021 under the PNM Thread***

Postby Habit7 » January 2nd, 2021, 4:46 pm

I think you problem is not reading and comprehension, but pure political bitterness and bias that you can't see the truth even when I say it. So let me show you someone familiar.

"The new six Opposition Senators appointed will continue to reflect the mandate of the UNC, to bring more people to the decision-making table."
Kamla Persad-Bissessar https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 5386218744

So in same way UNC supporters gave Anil et al the mandate to go and talk foolishness through the reelecting Kamla and her superb judgment. The nation gave Khan through the PNM the popular mandate to return as MoE.

Now go use those infantile ad hominen on KPB which I am sure you won't.

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Re: *** Official 2021 under the PNM Thread***

Postby zoom rader » January 2nd, 2021, 4:57 pm

Kant seems you don't understand English.

Nowhere did in Say I was right.

I said

"I THINK it is was before 1995" .


Guy Smiley is colossal failure and knows nothing about the energy sector.

The entire red government is getting bad advice from OJTs on the energy. For years you all have been undermining this Trinidad. The same people that are conning Trinidad are set up to make millions.

No one voted for that kant Frankie khan. ha failed at the poll years ago and was in a Scandal.

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zoom rader wrote:Kant Habit7

Why don't you read what I wrote to bluefete. No way I did argue with Bluefete on this when he posted the edvendence.

I am normally the one that correct tuners on misleading info and expose the spin coming from you arses.

There are many times I have corrected bluefete on historical info and I don't make an issue out of it cause everyone learns something. We can't learn anything from you or Redman

Both you and Redman always post spin and misleading info.

Some tuners I don't dig in to cause they are not bias and not viewed as racist tribal idiots like you.

So you want to be commended because you didn't argue? bluefete called out your spin, rather than admit you had no evidence for spin, you demanded evidence from him when you had none. Having had it confirmed that you tried to spin, you were dead to rights.

Not being discouraged, you accusing ppl of spreading propaganda when you were just found guilty yourself?

This is why like you all need 22 doses of electionol in 19hrs. Love him or hate him, Franklin Khan got the popular mandate to continue his job. He was appointed by a political party that received the popular mandate in 2015 and again in 2020 after he stood at the helm of their energy policy. Disagree with me all you want but somebody has the popular mandate as energy minister and it is surely not Kevin Ramnarine.

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Re: *** Official 2021 under the PNM Thread***

Postby Habit7 » January 2nd, 2021, 9:47 pm

Doh try dat. You said
zoom rader wrote:Dis why the red government killed Harrycrete back in the day

Only when the man challenged you, you backpedal and said you think it was before 1995. Had your comment gone unchallenged, it would have gone on the dung heap of your other UNC Clayton Bigsby trolling comments that rile up the UNC faithful.

Plus to further prove your effort to spin, Khan was elected as Ortoire/Mayaro MP in 2002. He was going good until Kamla and && chain up Dhansam Dhansook to lie on him and Eric Williams. He was arrested and charged, fought his case and won. The judge recommended that Kamla and && were to be prosecuted for their role in the conspiracy to bring him down. But this very DPP who you like to call PNM, didn't pursue it probably because of the optics of prosecuting existing office holders. Kamla dodged the bullet but && didnt learn and get caught again twice.

This is why laugh at the hypocrisy when anybody bring up Emailgate. Up to now Kamla has never apologise to Khan or Williams after what she did to their careers.

Nevertheless, your propaganda is that he "failed at the poll years ago and was in a Scandal." All lies. But I am sure if to reply and say "I think" it will absolve you.

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Re: *** Official 2021 under the PNM Thread***

Postby sMASH » January 2nd, 2021, 10:28 pm

What ever reason smiley gets the energy minister is beyond me, its not popular, unless they vote fir people in secret for various cabinet spots.

Franky come out on Friday and say petrotrin not closing, and by Monday u hear they winding doen talking bout how many going home.
Any time they hadda fly out to sign every deal, is young, by sinnanan by foreign minister... But not the actual energy minister.


He prolly there, cause he like Marlene, tentacles too deep and know too much to leff out.
De Dragon wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Kant Habit7

Why don't you read what I wrote to bluefete. No way I did argue with Bluefete on this when he posted the edvendence.

I am normally the one that correct tuners on misleading info and expose the spin coming from you arses.

There are many times I have corrected bluefete on historical info and I don't make an issue out of it cause everyone learns something. We can't learn anything from you or Redman

Both you and Redman always post spin and misleading info.

Some tuners I don't dig in to cause they are not bias and not viewed as racist tribal idiots like you.

So you want to be commended because you didn't argue? bluefete called out your spin, rather than admit you had no evidence for spin, you demanded evidence from him when you had none. Having had it confirmed that you tried to spin, you were dead to rights.

Not being discouraged, you accusing ppl of spreading propaganda when you were just found guilty yourself?

This is why like you all need 22 doses of electionol in 19hrs. Love him or hate him, Franklin Khan got the popular mandate to continue his job. He was appointed by a political party that received the popular mandate in 2015 and again in 2020 after he stood at the helm of their energy policy. Disagree with me all you want but somebody has the popular mandate as energy minister and it is surely not Kevin Ramnarine.

Poomcie, you realize that you are saying two different things right? My God if it's one thing you LFDRFD PNM fanboys are is persistent in ollour dotishness! You and the next one who trying to sell some plastic bags for about a decade now :roll: should form a tag team. Ollour could call ourselves Dotish X 2, or The Dotish Twins, or Dotish PNM Sheep or something similarly catchy.

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Re: *** Official 2021 under the PNM Thread***

Postby Habit7 » January 3rd, 2021, 12:14 am

sMASH wrote:Franky come out on Friday and say petrotrin not closing, and by Monday u hear they winding doen talking bout how many going home.
Any time they hadda fly out to sign every deal, is young, by sinnanan by foreign minister... But not the actual energy minister.

Why can't allyuh be factual, you think nobody knows better?

Petrotrin still exists, it never stopped existing. It is now a subsidiary of Trinidad Petroleum Holdings Ltd along with Heritage, Paria and Guaracara. As you rightly pointed out before, salaries in Petrotrin were 52% of expenditure there had to be a mechanism to control salaries and not encumber the company with obligations. So everybody was fired, the loss making refinery was closed and everybody received their due payout. Heritage and Paria hired 70% former Petrotrin employees and both companies despite predictions of gloom and doom have been making healthy profits. Khan did what everybody else was afraid to do and that is restructure the national oil company and return it to profitability.

Secondly, the man went with the PM to EOG in Houston, BP in London, Shell in Netherlands and just come back from Ghana before the lockdown. Why you lying and saying he is not there as MoE when he actually is? You feel he is Vidwatee Newton?

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Re: *** Official 2021 under the PNM Thread***

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » January 3rd, 2021, 5:36 am

Eh habit 7....how do you explain the 100 milli fake oil???

Also, allyuh know the majority of people out there believe Covid is the cause of those ridiculous cement prices to come and not that piece ah sheit the govt did....smfh

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Postby daring dragoon » January 3rd, 2021, 6:13 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Imagine pnmites defending this bullsheit by saying the govt want us to buy local and support tcl....ah tell yuh pnm people DOTISH bad

isnt TCL owned my the mexicans CEMEX brand? what is local at tcl BUT THE LABOURERS ? or is it the big boys that have "shares" in TCL that want TCL to make more money and send the price of cement up to $100 a bag like in the late 2000's first decade.

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » January 3rd, 2021, 6:56 am

Afaik, ANSA had/have a hand in tcl

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Postby zoom rader » January 3rd, 2021, 10:23 am

Habit7 wrote:Doh try dat. You said
zoom rader wrote:Dis why the red government killed Harrycrete back in the day

Only when the man challenged you, you backpedal and said you think it was before 1995. Had your comment gone unchallenged, it would have gone on the dung heap of your other UNC Clayton Bigsby trolling comments that rile up the UNC faithful.

Plus to further prove your effort to spin, Khan was elected as Ortoire/Mayaro MP in 2002. He was going good until Kamla and && chain up Dhansam Dhansook to lie on him and Eric Williams. He was arrested and charged, fought his case and won. The judge recommended that Kamla and && were to be prosecuted for their role in the conspiracy to bring him down. But this very DPP who you like to call PNM, didn't pursue it probably because of the optics of prosecuting existing office holders. Kamla dodged the bullet but && didnt learn and get caught again twice.

This is why laugh at the hypocrisy when anybody bring up Emailgate. Up to now Kamla has never apologise to Khan or Williams after what she did to their careers.

Nevertheless, your propaganda is that he "failed at the poll years ago and was in a Scandal." All lies. But I am sure if to reply and say "I think" it will absolve you.
Has king kant Rowlee ever apologized for his blatant lies on emailmate , have you kants all apologized for his ?

Guy Smiley is scamp and was exposed. Our court system is tainted. The DPP knew he could not pursue any recommendations from the red government judges. It would expose the DPP as a red government agent to which he is.

Guy Smiley and his family are all scams just like Marlene .

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Postby widdyphuck » January 3rd, 2021, 10:30 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Eh habit 7....how do you explain the 100 milli fake oil???

Also, allyuh know the majority of people out there believe Covid is the cause of those ridiculous cement prices to come and not that piece ah sheit the govt did....smfh
Government said that they stepped in to protect consumers interest..
Sunday 3rd January 2021 Express newspaper
20210103_102709.jpeg

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Postby pugboy » January 3rd, 2021, 10:42 am

that implies that either the rock hard product was inferior and/or tcl prices will remain the same and not rise after rock hard get shutdown

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Postby Rory Phoulorie » January 3rd, 2021, 10:51 am

Anyone ever requested from Rock Hard Cement an independent lab test certificate confirming the cement actually conforms to ASTM C 1157?

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Postby pugboy » January 3rd, 2021, 11:00 am

good question
but i would guess that tcl would have done their own tests on rh product to see
and of course if it failed they woulda make plenty noise, of which they never have

Rory Phoulorie wrote:Anyone ever requested from Rock Hard Cement an independent lab test certificate confirming the cement actually conforms to ASTM C 1157?

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Postby Redman » January 3rd, 2021, 12:21 pm

Who owns Rock hard?

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Postby pugboy » January 3rd, 2021, 12:32 pm

ramhit
was told its actually a bajan owned brand but ramhit represents it locally

Redman wrote:Who owns Rock hard?

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Postby daring dragoon » January 3rd, 2021, 12:57 pm

only when the pnm come back under the leadership of a manning then i will vote back for them, the late great patrick was the best PM in the pnm and brian and his new bride will uphold his father legacy.

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Re: *** Official 2021 under the PNM Thread***

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » January 3rd, 2021, 3:41 pm

Redman wrote:Who owns Rock hard?


Motilal Ramhit and sons responsible for bringing it. They are unc financiers/supporters...wah yuh expect...
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shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Eh habit 7....how do you explain the 100 milli fake oil???

Also, allyuh know the majority of people out there believe Covid is the cause of those ridiculous cement prices to come and not that piece ah sheit the govt did....smfh
Government said that they stepped in to protect consumers interest..
Sunday 3rd January 2021 Express newspaper
20210103_102709.jpeg


BS

This only means that TCL would eventually raise their prices but still remain less than rockhard...pnm yes

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Postby zoom rader » January 3rd, 2021, 3:44 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
Redman wrote:Who owns Rock hard?


Motilal Ramhit and sons responsible for bringing it. They are unc financiers/supporters...wah yuh expect...
wtf wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Eh habit 7....how do you explain the 100 milli fake oil???

Also, allyuh know the majority of people out there believe Covid is the cause of those ridiculous cement prices to come and not that piece ah sheit the govt did....smfh
Government said that they stepped in to protect consumers interest..
Sunday 3rd January 2021 Express newspaper
20210103_102709.jpeg


BS

This only means that TCL would eventually raise their prices but still remain less than rockhard...pnm yes
So this is not about a free market but more of to do with applying pressure to perceived political supporter?

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Postby matr1x » January 3rd, 2021, 3:46 pm

If its bajan, you know its sheit

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Postby zoom rader » January 3rd, 2021, 3:48 pm

matr1x wrote:If its bajan, you know its sheit
Thought Carri-con was to do with a free market.

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Postby Dizzy28 » January 3rd, 2021, 6:40 pm

Ramhit won one of the BMWs in the PNM raffle a few years ago though. I doubt they were UNC financiers alone.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
Redman wrote:Who owns Rock hard?


Motilal Ramhit and sons responsible for bringing it. They are unc financiers/supporters...wah yuh expect...
wtf wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Eh habit 7....how do you explain the 100 milli fake oil???

Also, allyuh know the majority of people out there believe Covid is the cause of those ridiculous cement prices to come and not that piece ah sheit the govt did....smfh
Government said that they stepped in to protect consumers interest..
Sunday 3rd January 2021 Express newspaper
20210103_102709.jpeg


BS

This only means that TCL would eventually raise their prices but still remain less than rockhard...pnm yes

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Postby pugboy » January 3rd, 2021, 6:55 pm

them big contractors play both sides
and govt officials more than happy to play with that once they getting they cut under the table

the cement made in turkey

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » January 3rd, 2021, 8:55 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Ramhit won one of the BMWs in the PNM raffle a few years ago though. I doubt they were UNC financiers alone.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
Redman wrote:Who owns Rock hard?


Motilal Ramhit and sons responsible for bringing it. They are unc financiers/supporters...wah yuh expect...
wtf wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Eh habit 7....how do you explain the 100 milli fake oil???

Also, allyuh know the majority of people out there believe Covid is the cause of those ridiculous cement prices to come and not that piece ah sheit the govt did....smfh
Government said that they stepped in to protect consumers interest..
Sunday 3rd January 2021 Express newspaper 20210103_102709.jpeg


BS

This only means that TCL would eventually raise their prices but still remain less than rockhard...pnm yes


You are correct...them men swinging both ways....as per usual, citizens stand to lose more in this nonsense

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Re: *** Official 2021 under the PNM Thread***

Postby apole69 » January 3rd, 2021, 9:41 pm

Habit7 wrote:Doh try dat. You said
zoom rader wrote:Dis why the red government killed Harrycrete back in the day

Only when the man challenged you, you backpedal and said you think it was before 1995. Had your comment gone unchallenged, it would have gone on the dung heap of your other UNC Clayton Bigsby trolling comments that rile up the UNC faithful.

Plus to further prove your effort to spin, Khan was elected as Ortoire/Mayaro MP in 2002. He was going good until Kamla and && chain up Dhansam Dhansook to lie on him and Eric Williams. He was arrested and charged, fought his case and won. The judge recommended that Kamla and && were to be prosecuted for their role in the conspiracy to bring him down. But this very DPP who you like to call PNM, didn't pursue it probably because of the optics of prosecuting existing office holders. Kamla dodged the bullet but && didnt learn and get caught again twice.

This is why laugh at the hypocrisy when anybody bring up Emailgate. Up to now Kamla has never apologise to Khan or Williams after what she did to their careers.

Nevertheless, your propaganda is that he "failed at the poll years ago and was in a Scandal." All lies. But I am sure if to reply and say "I think" it will absolve you.



As far as I am aware,Basdeo Panday was leader of the UNC in 2002.
Kam!a became political leader on March 24 th,2010,when she defeated Bas in the internal elections.
Patrick Manning called a snap election and was soundly beaten thereby catapulting Kamla into the PM's chair !

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