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MaxPower wrote:Sigh,
Another stressful day for De Sensitive.
Whatever it is you are searching for in life, clearly you are not finding it in the timing you want.
Patience and Positivity.
Hang in there big guy.
Redress10 wrote:Are you all saying that a company such as Austal which builds ships for the most advanced navies in the world can't build a lil ferry to move ppl back and forth from Trinidad to Tobago?
Facking hilarious
READ what I typed, then attempt to COMPREHEND what I typed. There are bound to be deficiencies in a project of this complexity. I never cast aspersions on Austal, the LFDRFD PNM or the vessel. It's quite possible that KPB and the UNC are deliberately not being specific about the nature of the deficiencies.De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Redman wrote:Yes but you are misinterpreting the application of the analysis.
It's is not that the Lloyd's or Aus standards are deficient...it's just a different system with different requirements
No need to be petulant
A vessel such as the APT is bound to have non-conformances, however non conformances can run from inadequate records, to major safety issues. How quickly these issues are addressed is key, as sometimes to maintain international standards or certification, you cannot have certain types of non-conformances, that go uncorrected.
The APT James was built to conform to that standard set out in the contract. Unless you have info that this wasn't done, kill your typical ranting madman anti PNM behaviour. The APT James is not bound to have non-conformances to our standard. If it did, the 3rd party verifiers would not recommend us taking delivery.
The Galleons Passage was not built to conform to our specifications because the original buyer was Venezuela. But when we acquired it, a gap analysis was done to show what differs from one safety standard to another. Nevertheless, it was still safe.
Are you an arse? You feel is a Lego facking boat they built?
ALL complex projects like this have defects/deficiencies/non-conformances. What they are determine acceptance or not. The BAE boats had substantial performance deficiencies and they were rejected. The APT James' non-conformances appear to be not substantial enough to make it unsuitable for the sea bridge, but to say a multimillion dollar, multimillion part vessel doesn't have a single defect, is being an arse.
Maybe somewhere in your LFDRFD PNM addled brain, you thought I was attacking the vessel, and your knee jerk monkey glands were thus elevated?
Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Redman wrote:Yes but you are misinterpreting the application of the analysis.
It's is not that the Lloyd's or Aus standards are deficient...it's just a different system with different requirements
No need to be petulant
A vessel such as the APT is bound to have non-conformances, however non conformances can run from inadequate records, to major safety issues. How quickly these issues are addressed is key, as sometimes to maintain international standards or certification, you cannot have certain types of non-conformances, that go uncorrected.
The APT James was built to conform to that standard set out in the contract. Unless you have info that this wasn't done, kill your typical ranting madman anti PNM behaviour. The APT James is not bound to have non-conformances to our standard. If it did, the 3rd party verifiers would not recommend us taking delivery.
The Galleons Passage was not built to conform to our specifications because the original buyer was Venezuela. But when we acquired it, a gap analysis was done to show what differs from one safety standard to another. Nevertheless, it was still safe.
Are you an arse? You feel is a Lego facking boat they built?
ALL complex projects like this have defects/deficiencies/non-conformances. What they are determine acceptance or not. The BAE boats had substantial performance deficiencies and they were rejected. The APT James' non-conformances appear to be not substantial enough to make it unsuitable for the sea bridge, but to say a multimillion dollar, multimillion part vessel doesn't have a single defect, is being an arse.
Maybe somewhere in your LFDRFD PNM addled brain, you thought I was attacking the vessel, and your knee jerk monkey glands were thus elevated?
The BAE OPVs were not delivered, the only reason we got back our money was because they already sold them to Brazil.
You are equating defects, deficiencies and non-conformance to safety standards, they are not the same. As I said before, unless you have knowledge of what the defects are with the APT James then you need to shut up. This is not your UNC friends where unsubstantiated claims could fly as truth.
If a defect is found on the ship it cannot sail. Stop peddling nonsense and lies. I really don't care what is going on your personal life that makes you so acerbic but your toxicity doesn't mean we have to accept your untruths.
De Dragon wrote:Your kantishness continues to grow by leaps and bounds
Several types of audits have to be undertaken before a vessel is delivered, safety, QC, environmental and sea worthiness being among them. You think a missing attendance sheet for a fire drill would ground a vessel? Even you cannot be so dotish. AGAIN, I am NOT attacking the vessel, the LFDRFD PNM (this time at least), so learn to read and comprehend, brush your teethses and wash your face before coming here to post nonsense.
Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Your kantishness continues to grow by leaps and bounds
Several types of audits have to be undertaken before a vessel is delivered, safety, QC, environmental and sea worthiness being among them. You think a missing attendance sheet for a fire drill would ground a vessel? Even you cannot be so dotish. AGAIN, I am NOT attacking the vessel, the LFDRFD PNM (this time at least), so learn to read and comprehend, brush your teethses and wash your face before coming here to post nonsense.
A missing attendance sheet is a issue with the crew not the ship.
De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Your kantishness continues to grow by leaps and bounds
Several types of audits have to be undertaken before a vessel is delivered, safety, QC, environmental and sea worthiness being among them. You think a missing attendance sheet for a fire drill would ground a vessel? Even you cannot be so dotish. AGAIN, I am NOT attacking the vessel, the LFDRFD PNM (this time at least), so learn to read and comprehend, brush your teethses and wash your face before coming here to post nonsense.
A missing attendance sheet is a issue with the crew not the ship.
So, the APT James is a ghost vessel?
The crew, HAVE to be shown to be in compliance with ALL applicable HSE regulations which is ultimately to safeguard the asset(the ship). This means a fire crew demonstrating competence with fire fighting, evidenced by documented drills. Failure to produce these documents can be a non-conformance, and affects the vessel in a number of ways.
sMASH wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Your kantishness continues to grow by leaps and bounds
Several types of audits have to be undertaken before a vessel is delivered, safety, QC, environmental and sea worthiness being among them. You think a missing attendance sheet for a fire drill would ground a vessel? Even you cannot be so dotish. AGAIN, I am NOT attacking the vessel, the LFDRFD PNM (this time at least), so learn to read and comprehend, brush your teethses and wash your face before coming here to post nonsense.
A missing attendance sheet is a issue with the crew not the ship.
So, the APT James is a ghost vessel?
The crew, HAVE to be shown to be in compliance with ALL applicable HSE regulations which is ultimately to safeguard the asset(the ship). This means a fire crew demonstrating competence with fire fighting, evidenced by documented drills. Failure to produce these documents can be a non-conformance, and affects the vessel in a number of ways.
padnah like he never get jam for an audit. but besides that, if anyting was to play off and courts start taking discoverable documents into consideration, and they cant discover some of them, that will not bode well. aside from that, if that is the attitude they ahve with requried documentations, u can imagine the attitude they have with the actual work/maintenance.
where there is smoke there is fire.
they not diligent with the simple easy things, u will see how they will manage the difficult things.
bluefete wrote:Zoom get ban orrr?
randolphinshan wrote:bluefete wrote:Zoom get ban orrr?
Hopefully it’s permanently this time. His foolishness was becoming unbearable.But sadly DeFaggot is his understudy and equally dotish
randolphinshan wrote:But sadly DeFaggot is his understudy and equally dotish
MaxPower wrote:randolphinshan wrote:But sadly DeFaggot is his understudy and equally dotish
Hello randolphinshan,
How u keeping bro?
Oh gosh dont tick off the poor boy nah. He had a rough 2020-2021 transition and is taking out his frustration on everyone. Saw him in work and he looking stressed AF.
De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Your kantishness continues to grow by leaps and bounds
Several types of audits have to be undertaken before a vessel is delivered, safety, QC, environmental and sea worthiness being among them. You think a missing attendance sheet for a fire drill would ground a vessel? Even you cannot be so dotish. AGAIN, I am NOT attacking the vessel, the LFDRFD PNM (this time at least), so learn to read and comprehend, brush your teethses and wash your face before coming here to post nonsense.
A missing attendance sheet is a issue with the crew not the ship.
So, the APT James is a ghost vessel?
The crew, HAVE to be shown to be in compliance with ALL applicable HSE regulations which is ultimately to safeguard the asset(the ship). This means a fire crew demonstrating competence with fire fighting, evidenced by documented drills. Failure to produce these documents can be a non-conformance, and affects the vessel in a number of ways.
He admitted that the muster list was incomplete “because it did not show substitutes for key persons.”
When the vessel is in full operation, George said a full muster list would be given.
“But because the vessel is being delivered all those layers of staffing were not provided and as such the list that is reflecting what is on the vessel would not have had those substitutes that are normally provided when the vessel is in operation.”
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/nidco-r ... 7e3826e081
Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Your kantishness continues to grow by leaps and bounds
Several types of audits have to be undertaken before a vessel is delivered, safety, QC, environmental and sea worthiness being among them. You think a missing attendance sheet for a fire drill would ground a vessel? Even you cannot be so dotish. AGAIN, I am NOT attacking the vessel, the LFDRFD PNM (this time at least), so learn to read and comprehend, brush your teethses and wash your face before coming here to post nonsense.
A missing attendance sheet is a issue with the crew not the ship.
So, the APT James is a ghost vessel?
The crew, HAVE to be shown to be in compliance with ALL applicable HSE regulations which is ultimately to safeguard the asset(the ship). This means a fire crew demonstrating competence with fire fighting, evidenced by documented drills. Failure to produce these documents can be a non-conformance, and affects the vessel in a number of ways.He admitted that the muster list was incomplete “because it did not show substitutes for key persons.”
When the vessel is in full operation, George said a full muster list would be given.
“But because the vessel is being delivered all those layers of staffing were not provided and as such the list that is reflecting what is on the vessel would not have had those substitutes that are normally provided when the vessel is in operation.”
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/nidco-r ... 7e3826e081
It is still just an issue with the temporary crew on route the ship will never do again. You are still yet to show a defect the ship "must" have.
Habit7 wrote:Yes PNM is bad, PNM is horrible. Though they are incompetent and don't know how to run a country, by luck we became one of the strongest and most stable economies in the Americas. We trinis are suffering with low fuel prices, subsided electricity/water/public transport, free health care, low taxes and free education.
Therefore, we must complain about everything. So when we just acquired one of the newest and most advanced passenger ferries in world, there must be a defect rendering it totally useless for our TT$100 return journey. to Tobago. While my friends in St Lucia have to pay US$95 to go Martinique on a water taxi.
Is everything allyuh does have to nag for?
Habit7 wrote:Yes PNM is bad, PNM is horrible. Though they are incompetent and don't know how to run a country, by luck we became one of the strongest and most stable economies in the Americas. We trinis are suffering with low fuel prices, subsided electricity/water/public transport, free health care, low taxes and free education.
Therefore, we must complain about everything. So when we just acquired one of the newest and most advanced passenger ferries in world, there must be a defect rendering it totally useless for our TT$100 return journey. to Tobago. While my friends in St Lucia have to pay US$95 to go Martinique on a water taxi.
Is everything allyuh does have to nag for?
MaxPower wrote:T&T look like it suffering?
Trinis having a time.
teems1 wrote:Habit7 wrote:Yes PNM is bad, PNM is horrible. Though they are incompetent and don't know how to run a country, by luck we became one of the strongest and most stable economies in the Americas. We trinis are suffering with low fuel prices, subsided electricity/water/public transport, free health care, low taxes and free education.
Therefore, we must complain about everything. So when we just acquired one of the newest and most advanced passenger ferries in world, there must be a defect rendering it totally useless for our TT$100 return journey. to Tobago. While my friends in St Lucia have to pay US$95 to go Martinique on a water taxi.
Is everything allyuh does have to nag for?
Food, housing price, crime rates, healthcare are all in a deplorable state.
The ferry price is decent, but how much did taxpayers pay for the vessel and how many people got a cut to line their pockets?
Stop being a zoom 2.0, and think critically.
Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Your kantishness continues to grow by leaps and bounds
Several types of audits have to be undertaken before a vessel is delivered, safety, QC, environmental and sea worthiness being among them. You think a missing attendance sheet for a fire drill would ground a vessel? Even you cannot be so dotish. AGAIN, I am NOT attacking the vessel, the LFDRFD PNM (this time at least), so learn to read and comprehend, brush your teethses and wash your face before coming here to post nonsense.
A missing attendance sheet is a issue with the crew not the ship.
So, the APT James is a ghost vessel?
The crew, HAVE to be shown to be in compliance with ALL applicable HSE regulations which is ultimately to safeguard the asset(the ship). This means a fire crew demonstrating competence with fire fighting, evidenced by documented drills. Failure to produce these documents can be a non-conformance, and affects the vessel in a number of ways.He admitted that the muster list was incomplete “because it did not show substitutes for key persons.”
When the vessel is in full operation, George said a full muster list would be given.
“But because the vessel is being delivered all those layers of staffing were not provided and as such the list that is reflecting what is on the vessel would not have had those substitutes that are normally provided when the vessel is in operation.”
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/nidco-r ... 7e3826e081
It is still just an issue with the temporary crew on route the ship will never do again. You are still yet to show a defect the ship "must" have.
sMASH wrote:free healthcare that sooo good, that non of the people who in charge of it, uses it. hard ting is, if they paid out of thier own pockets for their health care, np. but they use tax money for thier health care.
soo, might as well scrap the health care system and use tax money to sponsor all health care.
pnm moving like cow and govt is a feeding trough. and their supporters, lefff foot, riiite foot.
Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:free healthcare that sooo good, that non of the people who in charge of it, uses it. hard ting is, if they paid out of thier own pockets for their health care, np. but they use tax money for thier health care.
soo, might as well scrap the health care system and use tax money to sponsor all health care.
pnm moving like cow and govt is a feeding trough. and their supporters, lefff foot, riiite foot.
Our healthcare is much better than the $8.25 per week the salaried ppl pay for. It would be even better if Trinis pay the true insurance amount that first world countries with universal healthcare pay. And when you start to bawl that 1/5 of your salary going to something you don't use you will complain about that too.
The Min. of Health in the PNM uses public healthcare https://www.guardian.co.tt/article-6.2. ... 897d6aa014 , I don't know for the UNC. But in nearly every country the Executive getting enhanced healthcare because of their office that they hold and how their health is linked to the confidence in the economy.
sMASH wrote:Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:free healthcare that sooo good, that non of the people who in charge of it, uses it. hard ting is, if they paid out of thier own pockets for their health care, np. but they use tax money for thier health care.
soo, might as well scrap the health care system and use tax money to sponsor all health care.
pnm moving like cow and govt is a feeding trough. and their supporters, lefff foot, riiite foot.
Our healthcare is much better than the $8.25 per week the salaried ppl pay for. It would be even better if Trinis pay the true insurance amount that first world countries with universal healthcare pay. And when you start to bawl that 1/5 of your salary going to something you don't use you will complain about that too.
The Min. of Health in the PNM uses public healthcare https://www.guardian.co.tt/article-6.2. ... 897d6aa014 , I don't know for the UNC. But in nearly every country the Executive getting enhanced healthcare because of their office that they hold and how their health is linked to the confidence in the economy.
we paid the true cost for rowely, cuffie, marlene to go west shore, los angeles, new york or where ever.
wish i was in a tax weilding position to make that choice too.
Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:free healthcare that sooo good, that non of the people who in charge of it, uses it. hard ting is, if they paid out of thier own pockets for their health care, np. but they use tax money for thier health care.
soo, might as well scrap the health care system and use tax money to sponsor all health care.
pnm moving like cow and govt is a feeding trough. and their supporters, lefff foot, riiite foot.
Our healthcare is much better than the $8.25 per week the salaried ppl pay for. It would be even better if Trinis pay the true insurance amount that first world countries with universal healthcare pay. And when you start to bawl that 1/5 of your salary going to something you don't use you will complain about that too.
The Min. of Health in the PNM uses public healthcare https://www.guardian.co.tt/article-6.2. ... 897d6aa014 , I don't know for the UNC. But in nearly every country the Executive getting enhanced healthcare because of their office that they hold and how their health is linked to the confidence in the economy.
we paid the true cost for rowely, cuffie, marlene to go west shore, los angeles, new york or where ever.
wish i was in a tax weilding position to make that choice too.
Well, those are the perks of the job they applied for and were granted by the democratic choice of the citizens of T&T. They are not stealing anything, they are getting what they deserve. You cannot get vex because your candidates not there.
sMASH wrote:they are not ceo of a private limited company, they only in those positions to manage the resources of the land for the people of the land, to serve the citizens. hence the term 'public servant'. they supposed to forego any public funds, until the average citizen gets served first.
thats not perks of the job, that is the monarchy transcribed and transposed.
but, thats what u get when u have mentally enslaved people. cant exist outside of the massa slave system. and to them the rate of success is to become a JUHN
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