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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby matr1x » May 10th, 2024, 9:51 am

Habit7 wrote:
pugboy wrote:waterfront and cruise ships are of no use to citizens who being robbed daily at night home invasions….

So the thousands of ppl employed and millions of USD earned everyday by the Waterfront and cruise ships are invalidated by fact that a home maybe invaded every night.

Well boy, I don’t know what to say yes…



Wait, whut?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby 88sins » May 10th, 2024, 5:18 pm

shaneelal wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Crime: outa control
Water: being promised since 1958
Health care: no words
Roads: well boy

Pnm: let's spend 56 million on a zoo...the citizens need an upgraded zoo...that will do it

UNC: Diversify the economy!

also UNC: stop diversifying the economy!


I believe the key is to diversify to earn forex.


Earning foreign exchange is only one aspect of the economy of a country.
The moment the population decides to reduce it's spending, the entire domestic economy is at risk of collapse.
Reduced spending=reduced tax revenue (and reduced job availability), which leads to budget cuts on welfare programs, which in turn leads to desperation and increased crime and instability within the population.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » May 10th, 2024, 5:43 pm

they does hardly ever reduce budgets on them welfare program here
pnm does just tax the same ppl morer

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » May 10th, 2024, 7:20 pm

So Juliet Davy and 91.9 in trouble with TATT for her and her callers comments on Justice Frank Seepersad.

Seepersad himself made the complaint to TATT, the Commissioner of Police and the Judiciary.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » May 10th, 2024, 8:55 pm

The_Honourable wrote:So Juliet Davy and 91.9 in trouble with TATT for her and her callers comments on Justice Frank Seepersad.

Seepersad himself made the complaint to TATT, the Commissioner of Police and the Judiciary.
Tatt does usually be the one to address the situation, so quickly that we know it's a problem from their release.

Funny how Seepersad needed to inform them in this instance.
And I doubt he listens to that show, so might have taken some time to come to his attention

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby one eye » May 10th, 2024, 9:06 pm

The government had many great programs running throughout the various ministries in the earlies.

Lack of funds or "letting it run down" as typical trinis love to say wasn't the reason they were cut.

Wastage and abuse was the real reason, like giving toys to an unappreciative child.

I keep saying that this lavish consumerism lifestyle that trinis have will lead to their demise.

And that comment about waterfront and cruise ships is crazy, maybe they should hire you to stand guard.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » May 10th, 2024, 9:38 pm

yet inshan tired get pull up on his talk show

sMASH wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:So Juliet Davy and 91.9 in trouble with TATT for her and her callers comments on Justice Frank Seepersad.

Seepersad himself made the complaint to TATT, the Commissioner of Police and the Judiciary.
Tatt does usually be the one to address the situation, so quickly that we know it's a problem from their release.

Funny how Seepersad needed to inform them in this instance.
And I doubt he listens to that show, so might have taken some time to come to his attention

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » May 10th, 2024, 9:57 pm

The speaker of the house broke the law in parliament just now.


Saddam Hosein quoted the constitution for she, and she still ruled against the constitution.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » May 10th, 2024, 10:03 pm

clearly planned well before if true
need to see video evidence of this as it will be requested here lol

sMASH wrote:The speaker of the house broke the law in parliament just now.


Saddam Hosein quoted the constitution for she, and she still ruled against the constitution.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » May 10th, 2024, 10:10 pm

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/sts9g4 ... tid=WaXdOe


See if thst working.


If not, it's on kick out pnm page

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » May 10th, 2024, 10:18 pm

sMASH wrote:https://www.facebook.com/share/p/sts9g4RscfAxCXaW/?mibextid=WaXdOe


See if thst working.


If not, it's on kick out pnm page


That was 2 weeks ago when all the bacchanal with the Auditor General started.

Point taken tho

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » May 11th, 2024, 10:06 am

Iwer’s station in breach
TATT rules on degrading statements against judge...

THE Telecommunications Au­thority of Trinidad and Tobago (TATT) has found that radio station Trinibashment 91.9 FM, owned by soca artist Neil “Iwer” George, had acted in breach of its concession by allowing inciteful and degrading statements to be made against a High Court judge that had the potential of bringing the Judiciary into disrepute.

The contentious statements were made by 91.9 FM announcer Juliet Davy and some members of the public during a call-in programme on the station on January 30.

At the receiving end of the criticism was Justice Frank Seepersad after he deli­vered a judgment in favour of Valsayn businessman Inshan Ishmael, in a claim for defamation he had brought against calypsonian Cro Cro (Weston Rawlins).

Justice Seepersad had directed in January that Raw­lins pay to Ishmael $250,000 in compensation for defamation of character, stemming from the lyrics in one of his compositions titled “Another Sat is Outside Again”. The song was performed during a competition in February 2023.

In the song, Rawlins referred to Ishmael as a “thief” who was selling stolen car parts.

The Express understands that so far, Ishmael has not received any payment from Rawlins, given that he has since filed an appeal against the judge’s ruling.

On Wednesday, TATT wrote to the station informing it of its breach.

In the letter that was signed by TATT CEO Cynthia Reddock-Downes, the station was informed that it had breached conditions D9 (a) and D9 (c) of its concession by allowing statements to be made about the judge/and or the Judiciary.

The letter did not in­di­cate whether imme­di­ate action was being ta­ken against the station but stated that “the breach and other breaches will be consi­dered in the upcoming renewal of their concession”.

The Express attemp­ted to contact George for comment yesterday, but calls to his cellphone, as well as WhatsApp messages, went unanswered.

Following the statements on the programme, sources said Justice Seepersad had also written to the Law Association of Trinidad and Tobago (LATT), Chief Justice Ivor Archie, as well as the Office of the Attorney General, over his concerns.

The Judiciary responded to the judge but indicated it did not see the need to issue any statement. There were no responses to the judge’s letter from either LATT or the AG’s Office.

The Express also attemp­ted to contact LATT president Lynette Seebaran-Suite yesterday, but calls to her cellphone also went unanswered.

Hateful and racist attacks

Following the judgment, Justice Seepersad, according to sources in the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service (TTPS), had written to Police Commissioner Erla Christopher regarding concerns over his safety.

He pointed out that death threats were being made against him, presumably over his judgment in the Ishmael and Rawlins matter.

That letter was issued to Christopher on February 1.

In it, Justice Seepersad said he was seeking the Commissioner’s urgent assistance following another of many threats to his life.

The judge advised Christopher that he had to make a police report of an incident where a man of African des­cent threatened him, saying, “Dat is d stink c----- judge. Only pressing black people. I sorry I have to use my rounds or I wudda done yuh today.”

Seepersad wrote that he has been the target of hate and racist attacks following the Ishmael judgment.

The letter stated that he was ridiculed, called a racist, and on the programme hosted by Davy, numerous callers expressed very strong and hateful views primarily premised upon his ethnicity.

He had further expressed concerns that his conduct in a particular high-profile matter before him may be “wea­ponised” against him.

The judge had also reite­rated that an e-mailed death threat he received in 2022 was still under active probe and the perpetrator is still at large.

He had raised questions and concerns about the top cop’s decision to revise his security when this matter is still looming and open.

The judge further informed Christopher that he had advised his attorney to release his letters publicly, in the event that he becomes a crime statistic if his request for security is rejected.

Death threats

In June 2020, a brass-­col­oured 9mm round of ammunition was sent to Seepersad in the mail, with a note saying: “You R A HOL Racist A Infidel, A evil maN Fed up of U ResigN OK shot call THis would look nice betweeN your Eyes.”

His security detail was increased after that threat.

In 2022, he received a death threat via e-mail that he and his family would suffer if he set aside a near bil­li­on-dollar judgment against the National Infrastructure Development Company Ltd (Nidco) for terminating its 2011 contract with Constuto­ra OAS for the Solomon Hochoy Highway extension from San Fernando to Point Fortin.

The e-mail had stated: “Many people need the wicked government to pay OAS. Respect the ruling. If you setaside (sic) a hit will be put on you and you will live each day in fear till ‘dia do julgamento’ (judgment day in Portuguese). If you make creditors suffer...your family will suffer too when we take you out. Just do the right thing or its (sic) bye bye for you.”

On December 15, 2022, Seepersad ruled that the arbi­trators’ order that Nidco pay OAS $857 million be set aside as he found the arbitra­tion court erred when it either dis­regarded, misconstrued or failed to properly evaluate certain pieces of evidence before it.

On May 31, 2023, Christopher sent correspondence to Justice Seepersad, advising that there existed negligible threats against him and a decision had been taken to revise his security from three Special Branch officers to one.

Seepersad also has his private security personnel.

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... 439ad.html

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » May 11th, 2024, 10:08 am

Iwer’s station in breach
TATT rules on degrading statements against judge...

THE Telecommunications Au­thority of Trinidad and Tobago (TATT) has found that radio station Trinibashment 91.9 FM, owned by soca artist Neil “Iwer” George, had acted in breach of its concession by allowing inciteful and degrading statements to be made against a High Court judge that had the potential of bringing the Judiciary into disrepute.

The contentious statements were made by 91.9 FM announcer Juliet Davy and some members of the public during a call-in programme on the station on January 30.

At the receiving end of the criticism was Justice Frank Seepersad after he deli­vered a judgment in favour of Valsayn businessman Inshan Ishmael, in a claim for defamation he had brought against calypsonian Cro Cro (Weston Rawlins).

Justice Seepersad had directed in January that Raw­lins pay to Ishmael $250,000 in compensation for defamation of character, stemming from the lyrics in one of his compositions titled “Another Sat is Outside Again”. The song was performed during a competition in February 2023.

In the song, Rawlins referred to Ishmael as a “thief” who was selling stolen car parts.

The Express understands that so far, Ishmael has not received any payment from Rawlins, given that he has since filed an appeal against the judge’s ruling.

On Wednesday, TATT wrote to the station informing it of its breach.

In the letter that was signed by TATT CEO Cynthia Reddock-Downes, the station was informed that it had breached conditions D9 (a) and D9 (c) of its concession by allowing statements to be made about the judge/and or the Judiciary.

The letter did not in­di­cate whether imme­di­ate action was being ta­ken against the station, but stated that “the breach and other breaches will be consi­dered in the upcoming renewal of their concession”.

The Express attemp­ted to contact George for comment yesterday, but calls to his cellphone, as well as WhatsApp messages, went unanswered.

Following the statements on the programme, sources said Justice Seepersad had also written to the Law Association of Trinidad and Tobago (LATT), Chief Justice Ivor Archie, as well as the Office of the Attorney General, over his concerns.

The Judiciary responded to the judge but indicated it did not see the need to issue any statement. There were no responses to the judge’s letter from either LATT or the AG’s Office.

The Express also attemp­ted to contact LATT president Lynette Seebaran-Suite yesterday, but calls to her cellphone also went unanswered.

Hateful and racist attacks

Following the judgment, Justice Seepersad, according to sources in the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service (TTPS), had written to Police Commissioner Erla Christopher regarding concerns over his safety.

He pointed out that death threats were being made against him, presumably over his judgment in the Ishmael and Rawlins matter.

That letter was issued to Christopher on February 1.

In it, Justice Seepersad said he was seeking the Commissioner’s urgent assistance following another of many threats to his life.

The judge advised Christopher that he had to make a police report of an incident where a man of African des­cent threatened him, saying, “Dat is d stink c----- judge. Only pressing black people. I sorry I have to use my rounds or I wudda done yuh today.”

Seepersad wrote that he has been the target of hate and racist attacks following the Ishmael judgment.

The letter stated that he was ridiculed, called a racist, and on the programme hosted by Davy, numerous callers expressed very strong and hateful views primarily premised upon his ethnicity.

He had further expressed concerns that his conduct in a particular high-profile matter before him may be “wea­ponised” against him.

The judge had also reite­rated that an e-mailed death threat he received in 2022 was still under active probe and the perpetrator is still at large.

He had raised questions and concerns about the top cop’s decision to revise his security when this matter is still looming and open.

The judge further informed Christopher that he had advised his attorney to release his letters publicly, in the event that he becomes a crime statistic if his request for security is rejected.

Death threats

In June 2020, a brass-­col­oured 9mm round of ammunition was sent to Seepersad in the mail, with a note saying: “You R A HOL Racist A Infidel, A evil maN Fed up of U ResigN OK shot call THis would look nice betweeN your Eyes.”

His security detail was increased after that threat.

In 2022, he received a death threat via e-mail that he and his family would suffer if he set aside a near bil­li­on-dollar judgment against the National Infrastructure Development Company Ltd (Nidco) for terminating its 2011 contract with Constuto­ra OAS for the Solomon Hochoy Highway extension from San Fernando to Point Fortin.

The e-mail had stated: “Many people need the wicked government to pay OAS. Respect the ruling. If you setaside (sic) a hit will be put on you and you will live each day in fear till ‘dia do julgamento’ (judgment day in Portuguese). If you make creditors suffer...your family will suffer too when we take you out. Just do the right thing or its (sic) bye bye for you.”

On December 15, 2022, Seepersad ruled that the arbi­trators’ order that Nidco pay OAS $857 million be set aside as he found the arbitra­tion court erred when it either dis­regarded, misconstrued or failed to properly evaluate certain pieces of evidence before it.

On May 31, 2023, Christopher sent correspondence to Justice Seepersad, advising that there existed negligible threats against him and a decision had been taken to revise his security from three Special Branch officers to one.

Seepersad also has his private security personnel.

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... 439ad.html

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby eliteauto » May 11th, 2024, 12:36 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
On May 31, 2023, Christopher sent correspondence to Justice Seepersad, advising that there existed negligible threats against him and a decision had been taken to revise his security from three Special Branch officers to one.

Seepersad also has his private security personnel.

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... 439ad.html


I hope the COP has the supporting intelligence to make that determination otherwise WTF

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » May 12th, 2024, 10:37 am

like they looking to put john jeremie as a judge to counter frankie seeps to bring balance to verdicts lol

didn’t know yuh could just jump from lawyer to appeal court judge so

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Dizzy28 » May 12th, 2024, 10:44 am

pugboy wrote:like they looking to put john jeremie as a judge to counter frankie seeps to bring balance to verdicts lol

didn’t know yuh could just jump from lawyer to appeal court judge so
I only found out earlier this week that Michael de Labastide went straight from private practice to Chief Justice
Screenshot_20240512-104327.jpg


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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » May 12th, 2024, 10:56 am

pugboy wrote:like they looking to put john jeremie as a judge to counter frankie seeps to bring balance to verdicts lol

didn’t know yuh could just jump from lawyer to appeal court judge so
Who is they? PNM, UNC, &&, law assoc, chief justice? Who nominates and approves? If Seepersad gets elevated will you be satisfied?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » May 12th, 2024, 11:08 am

such is the power of the cj eh

Dizzy28 wrote:
pugboy wrote:like they looking to put john jeremie as a judge to counter frankie seeps to bring balance to verdicts lol

didn’t know yuh could just jump from lawyer to appeal court judge so
I only found out earlier this week that Michael de Labastide went straight from private practice to Chief Justice Screenshot_20240512-104327.jpg

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » May 12th, 2024, 11:08 am

typical shoot messenger eh

wing wrote:
pugboy wrote:like they looking to put john jeremie as a judge to counter frankie seeps to bring balance to verdicts lol

didn’t know yuh could just jump from lawyer to appeal court judge so
Who is they? PNM, UNC, &&, law assoc, chief justice? Who nominates and approves? If Seepersad gets elevated will you be satisfied?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » May 12th, 2024, 11:21 am

pugboy wrote:typical shoot messenger eh

wing wrote:
pugboy wrote:like they looking to put john jeremie as a judge to counter frankie seeps to bring balance to verdicts lol

didn’t know yuh could just jump from lawyer to appeal court judge so
Who is they? PNM, UNC, &&, law assoc, chief justice? Who nominates and approves? If Seepersad gets elevated will you be satisfied?
You who posted in the PNM thread..

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » May 12th, 2024, 12:39 pm

yeahhh

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Mmoney607 » May 13th, 2024, 4:59 pm

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/05/12/audito ... gal-probe/
AUDITOR General Jaiwantie Ramdass has initiated a new round of litigation over the public accounts’ imbroglio.

Acting Prime Minister Colm Imbert is now being asked to cancel or recall the investigation into what took place. He has been given until 4 pm on May 15 to do so.

On May 12, attorney Aasha Ramlal of Freedom Law Chambers, which is representing Ramdass, issued a new pre-action protocol letter to Imbert, as acting prime minister and head of the Cabinet, challenging the Cabinet-appointed investigative team to probe the understatement of revenue for the 2023 financial year.

The letter was copied to retired High Court judge David Harris, as chairman, and David Benjamin, the other team member, a retired audit director at the Auditor General’s department.

The investigative team’s appointment was announced by the Finance Ministry on May 7.

Sunday’s letter reminded that the Public Service Commission (PSC), under section 121 of the Constitution, had the sole and exclusive jurisdiction for the “appointment, promotion, transfer and disciplining” of public officers.

The letter said the understatement of the Government’s revenue in the original sum of $3.4 billion (originally) and subsequently $2.9 billion would give rise to a prima facie case of conduct prejudicial to the public service.

“This arguably constitutes misconduct under the Public Service Commission Regulations. As such, it is a matter that falls within the constitutional jurisdiction and remit of the independent PSC.”

The letter said by appointing an investigative team, the minister “has usurped the constitutional role and function of the independent PSC.”

Ramlal maintained this was a breach of section 121 and an “impermissible intrusion into the constitutional remit of the PSC.”

She said, “Public officers in the Ministry of Finance hold a disciplinary jurisdiction of the Public Service Commission, which is specifically authorised to conduct such investigations.

“The Public Service Regulations set out the procedure for conducting disciplinary proceedings and the necessary safeguards…”

Ramlal said to investigate the action and conduct of public officers was an “illegal and unconstitutional trespass.

“The Minister of Finance is also inextricably intertwined and is a main protagonist in this conflict,” the letter said.

Ramlal also noted the “scathing” attacks on Ramdass in both Houses of Parliament, adding that “this investigation is, therefore, nothing more than a not-so-clever attempt” to distance the ministry from the fiasco created.

The letter also referred to statements by the Finance Minister at a post-Cabinet briefing on May 9 when he said the Ori­ginal Statement Declaration and Certification, which was dated January 31, 2024, was “inadvertently” included with the amended public accounts delivered to the Auditor General on April 15, 2024.

Ramlal described this explanation as “half-baked” since there was no mention that it was the Auditor General who, by letter dated April 17, 2024, wrote to the Attorney General to complain about the backdating of the national accounts because the discrepancy raised serious ethical and legal issues.

She also said it was not mentioned that the Auditor General called on the Finance Ministry to submit the correct version of the accounts. These letters were attached to the pre-action letter.

“It was only after these two letters were written by the Auditor General that the Ministry of Finance resubmitted the amended accounts with the correct date of April 16, 2024.”

Ramlal said before this, Ramdass had two sets of public accounts in her possession.


Acting Prime Minister and Finance Minister Colm Imbert -
“It is, therefore, now impossible for the minister to conveniently extricate himself from this scandalous state of affairs by pretending that he is somehow above the fray and can select and appoint an independent team of investigators to investigate the facts and circumstances surrounding the issues that led to this unseemly imbroglio.”

The attorney also took issue with the terms of reference, which she said, “clearly trespass on the constitutional independence of the Auditor General.”

She contended the terms of reference were ambiguous, unclear and imprecise and “are so wide that they amount to and/or can cover an investigation into the action and conduct of the Auditor General about the performance of her constitutional and statutory duties.

“This is ultra vires, unconstitutional and illegal because neither the minister nor the Cabinet has constitutional jurisdiction and lawful authority to investigate the action and conduct of the Auditor General outside the narrow confines of section 136 of the Constitution.

“This investigation team is mandated to report to the Minister of Finance within two months and our client is expected to drop whatever she is doing and participate in this investigation without the benefit of independent legal advice and representation.

“Given the political ramifications and hypersensitivity of this matter, the minister’s attempt to appoint an independent investigation with a team of independent investigators will not withstand legal scrutiny and judicial review.”

Ramlal also warned there was a “real danger and risk of bias” in the appointment of the team.

“A biased investigation cannot lead to a fair and lawful result and the report of this investigation will be the fruit of a poisoned tree that is liable to be quashed and declared a nullity.

“Our client is insulated from political interference and control to such an extent that the process of investigating and/ or removing her from office is the same as that which applies to a judge of the Supreme Court of Justice.

“The terms of reference of this investigation cross the line by trespassing into the sacred and constitutionally protected domain of the independent office of the Auditor General.”

The Harris-led team’s terms of reference

a) What circumstances led to the understatement of revenue in the public accounts for the financial year 2023 and what should be done to avoid a recurrence of same?

b) The efficacy of the new electronic cheque-clearing system introduced by the Central Bank of Trinidad and Tobago in February 2023.

c) The efforts made by the officials at the Ministry of Finance and its various divisions to correct the understatement of revenue, and to advise the Auditor General of the understatement and provide her with an explanation, clarification and further information on same.

d) What was the response of the Auditor General to the efforts of the public officials described at c) above and what action was taken by the Auditor General in relation to the understatement of revenue in the audit of the public accounts for financial year 2023?

e) What are the facts in relation to the allegations and statements made by the Auditor General in her Report on the Public Accounts of Trinidad and Tobago for the Financial Year 2023, including the addendum and appendices, with specific reference to the understatement of revenue in the public accounts for the financial year 2023.

f) Any other related matters.

g) Findings and recommendations going forward.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » May 13th, 2024, 5:48 pm

i getting lorse in this whole brouha
if she question impsbert about some unsubstantiated numbers he provide
why is it she is the one being investigated ?

if i tell me accountant the business make $100 dollars then next week i come and say change that to $200 dollars and the accountant ask why i changing it
should the accountant be investigated for something fishy?

somebody explain pls
make it make sense

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » May 13th, 2024, 7:17 pm

Firstly, Imbert didn’t provide any numbers because that is not his role. Public servants from the MoF and CBTT present the numbers to the AuG. The deadline was Jan 31st. After the deadline the public servants claimed the electronic check clearing system underreported the revenue and there was $2.6B more than reported and the asked the AuG to recognise it. She refused so they went to Imbert to appeal for them. He intimidated her and sent her a PaP to take the records. She took it but went to the press. But Imbert eventually went to parliament to extend the deadline so she can now legally take it.

The constitution protects the AuG from subjecting herself to any minister. But Imbert investigative team can investigate the MoF and CBTT for why the error was caused in the first place and the reports going back and forth but they can’t demand anything of the AuG.

I agree with Dookeran that this whole situation is escalating beyond more than it needs to be. Imbert didn’t need to be so high-handed and call the woman on her cellphone while the AuG looks highly political being so litigious and using &&.

Plus the average man believes that Imbert himself was trying present bad numbers and that money is missing from the treasury and in some politician’ s pocket. When the reality is that public servants are saying there is more money than reported in the treasury.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » May 13th, 2024, 7:32 pm

that’s the problem, it has blown way out and handled badly in general
and when you hire anand things go in one direction

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby goalpost » May 13th, 2024, 7:36 pm

Reporting less than what it has gives the impression to the normal man/bacchanalist that they plan to tief the difference in d future.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » May 13th, 2024, 8:25 pm

an accountant once told me
if you skipped lunch, do you eat two meals the next time you eat?
he was trying to argue that getting paid late was almost like a cash advance on next month salary

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby assassin » May 13th, 2024, 8:59 pm

I think a few key steps are missing

AuG was told (in April?) that there was a +3.4b understatement. She was then told that the Ministry could confirm +2.6b and was still verifying almost 800k in revenue. A copy of the +2.6b statements was then submitted but dated Jan 31. Minister of Finance called her personally to accept the statements

AuG felt an attempt was being made to simply replace the previously audited statements. The revised statements were subsequently formally submitted with an April date

AuG received a PAP to accept the statements. She sought guidance from AG and asked for AG to provide legal counsel. AG told her that he was representing the Government and Minister of Finance so he could not provide her counsel. She then retained Freedom and sent a letter to AG seeking to confirm that state would cover her legal costs

Honestly I would not describe her as litigious. She is seeking to defend her professional self from none less than the Office of the Attorney General. Who should she have retained? Kareem? Faris?

I would have retained Ramesh
Habit7 wrote:Firstly, Imbert didn’t provide any numbers because that is not his role. Public servants from the MoF and CBTT present the numbers to the AuG. The deadline was Jan 31st. After the deadline the public servants claimed the electronic check clearing system underreported the revenue and there was $2.6B more than reported and the asked the AuG to recognise it. She refused so they went to Imbert to appeal for them. He intimidated her and sent her a PaP to take the records. She took it but went to the press. But Imbert eventually went to parliament to extend the deadline so she can now legally take it.

The constitution protects the AuG from subjecting herself to any minister. But Imbert investigative team can investigate the MoF and CBTT for why the error was caused in the first place and the reports going back and forth but they can’t demand anything of the AuG.

I agree with Dookeran that this whole situation is escalating beyond more than it needs to be. Imbert didn’t need to be so high-handed and call the woman on her cellphone while the AuG looks highly political being so litigious and using &&.

Plus the average man believes that Imbert himself was trying present bad numbers and that money is missing from the treasury and in some politician’ s pocket. When the reality is that public servants are saying there is more money than reported in the treasury.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » May 13th, 2024, 9:21 pm

Auditor General Ramdass didn't have a choice as the AG was on the government side who went to parliament together with imbert and chastised her. She decided to go by Anand as he has excellent experience in constitutional law. By going to him, plus she's indian, pnmites accusing her of being a UNC, opposition sympathizer, undermining the government, etc.

Now it seems the Harris "investigation" committee (more like a mitigation committee) appointed by imbert may be unconstitutional as only the Public Service Commission (PSC) can investigate the Auditor General. The office is independent and separate from the government for a reason. If that is the case, the scope of the committee would be greatly reduced making no sense as they can only investigate pretty much one party, the Ministry of Finance.
 
Some are saying "both" of them need to settle down but in reality imbert started this s**t and the AuG standing her ground giving back the same energy.

Imbert is an omega level pnm who don't like embarrassment so I would not be surprised in time the PSC together with the President "replace" Ms. Ramdass when her time is up. Recall rowley, the merit list with the PSC and the President to undermine Gary.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » May 13th, 2024, 9:23 pm

I think there should have been formal dialogue before there was stonewalling and lawsuits. But here we are and those lawsuits won’t be resolved until probably after next elections anyways.

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