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Habit7 wrote:I dont know how race got into this. Because when kids backflipping and frolicking in the same sewage water in floods in UNC constituencies it is just as bad.
In the last elections, both Laventilles and POS constituencies had less than 50% turnout. Meaning that only the diehard PNMites came out to vote, the majority of the constituents don't vote. These constituencies are ripe for the taking but the UNC is failing to expand beyond its base. You can't cuss Laventillians, tell them they are dumb for supporting PNM, tell them they are all criminals, lock them up in an SoE, racially despise them and then a few months before the election choose a nobody and say we love you, please vote for us. The same minority keeps electing PNM but the UNC is offering little alternative yet wants to win by default.
PNM do them good and PNM do them bad, but they still have self-respect. The majority will stay home and not vote but don't expect to pappyshow them and get their vote. UNC or some other 3rd party can win Laventille if they show them respect and present viable alternatives to what PNM does. But pointing and laughing at Laventille will still have you crying on election night at UNC HQ.
16 cycles wrote:https://guardian.co.tt/news/auditor-general-sends-legal-letter-to-imbert-retract-blatantly-false-comments-6.2.1988458.263cbc195fRamdass in the pre-action protocol letter, which was obtained by Guardian Media, explained that two months after the Ministry of Finance (MoF) submitted the public accounts on January 31, 2024, she was advised that they had made a massive error whereby the ministry was now claiming that the Government’s revenue was understated by over $3 billion—to be exact $3,379,777,908.
The Auditor General indicated that the ministry wanted to amend the national accounts to reflect this higher revenue figure.
However, she said the ministry admitted that whilst it could account for some of this money, the sum of $780,499,791.27 could not be accounted for.
Why don't you just go to Gaza and fight for Hamas, because you are not serving any purpose here.sMASH wrote:How amour say he couldn't advise imburt and auditor general?
Wasn't he the same one that represented ish and Steve against trinidad and Tobago, then represented trinidad and Tobago against ish and Steve?
The_Honourable wrote:Habit7 wrote:I dont know how race got into this. Because when kids backflipping and frolicking in the same sewage water in floods in UNC constituencies it is just as bad.
In the last elections, both Laventilles and POS constituencies had less than 50% turnout. Meaning that only the diehard PNMites came out to vote, the majority of the constituents don't vote. These constituencies are ripe for the taking but the UNC is failing to expand beyond its base. You can't cuss Laventillians, tell them they are dumb for supporting PNM, tell them they are all criminals, lock them up in an SoE, racially despise them and then a few months before the election choose a nobody and say we love you, please vote for us. The same minority keeps electing PNM but the UNC is offering little alternative yet wants to win by default.
PNM do them good and PNM do them bad, but they still have self-respect. The majority will stay home and not vote but don't expect to pappyshow them and get their vote. UNC or some other 3rd party can win Laventille if they show them respect and present viable alternatives to what PNM does. But pointing and laughing at Laventille will still have you crying on election night at UNC HQ.
Nice try about "unc constituencies" but nah. Last time I checked beetham voted for pnm win or lose, pnm in government for 8 years, and they in sewage water. Your flex is that pnm give them housing LOL.
UNC has campaigned in both Laventille and POS in the past. The constituents who voted overwhelmingly choose the pnm. When there was alternative third-party options such as NNV, LOVE, ILP, PEP, other parties plus independents in the past, they still choose the pnm.
So some choosing to stay home instead of voting other parties while the diehards vote the pnm who don't have to fight for their vote? In my book, they like it so and they will continue to like it so for another fifty years. But say what... at least dey have dey lil housing so "we should be grateful and thank the lord for small mercies"... while enduring sewage water, poor infrastructure, poverty and crime.
As zoom say...
Doh beat wingwing wrote:Why don't you just go to Gaza and fight for Hamas, because you are not serving any purpose here.sMASH wrote:How amour say he couldn't advise imburt and auditor general?
Wasn't he the same one that represented ish and Steve against trinidad and Tobago, then represented trinidad and Tobago against ish and Steve?
sMASH wrote:How amour say he couldn't advise imburt and auditor general?
Wasn't he the same one that represented ish and Steve against trinidad and Tobago, then represented trinidad and Tobago against ish and Steve?
Habit7 wrote:The_Honourable wrote:Habit7 wrote:I dont know how race got into this. Because when kids backflipping and frolicking in the same sewage water in floods in UNC constituencies it is just as bad.
In the last elections, both Laventilles and POS constituencies had less than 50% turnout. Meaning that only the diehard PNMites came out to vote, the majority of the constituents don't vote. These constituencies are ripe for the taking but the UNC is failing to expand beyond its base. You can't cuss Laventillians, tell them they are dumb for supporting PNM, tell them they are all criminals, lock them up in an SoE, racially despise them and then a few months before the election choose a nobody and say we love you, please vote for us. The same minority keeps electing PNM but the UNC is offering little alternative yet wants to win by default.
PNM do them good and PNM do them bad, but they still have self-respect. The majority will stay home and not vote but don't expect to pappyshow them and get their vote. UNC or some other 3rd party can win Laventille if they show them respect and present viable alternatives to what PNM does. But pointing and laughing at Laventille will still have you crying on election night at UNC HQ.
Nice try about "unc constituencies" but nah. Last time I checked beetham voted for pnm win or lose, pnm in government for 8 years, and they in sewage water. Your flex is that pnm give them housing LOL.
UNC has campaigned in both Laventille and POS in the past. The constituents who voted overwhelmingly choose the pnm. When there was alternative third-party options such as NNV, LOVE, ILP, PEP, other parties plus independents in the past, they still choose the pnm.
So some choosing to stay home instead of voting other parties while the diehards vote the pnm who don't have to fight for their vote? In my book, they like it so and they will continue to like it so for another fifty years. But say what... at least dey have dey lil housing so "we should be grateful and thank the lord for small mercies"... while enduring sewage water, poor infrastructure, poverty and crime.
As zoom say...
Firstly you are extrapolating a sewer problem in one location in Beetham to be affecting the entire constituency. The history of Beetham from colonial times was that it was a swamp that poor ppl would squat in. It was PNM that developed it, put streets, drainage, utilities, proper housing, schools and other govt services. But because their inherently high water table and location as drainage for the entire area, they are prone to sewage issues. This might be news to you but this has been so for decades. Why UNC didn’t fix it? But because one area they have an issue, you believe they should run into the arms of UNC.
Well it for the UNC to take. Only like 45% of ppl voted there. Of that 45% PNM won the majority. So there is like 70% of ppl for the UNC to take. You want to blame PNM for poverty and crime as if the ppl are not responsible for that themselves. But then again that is the same condescending attitude they get from UNC, hence their failure to get votes there.
The_Honourable wrote:Habit7 wrote:The_Honourable wrote:Habit7 wrote:I dont know how race got into this. Because when kids backflipping and frolicking in the same sewage water in floods in UNC constituencies it is just as bad.
In the last elections, both Laventilles and POS constituencies had less than 50% turnout. Meaning that only the diehard PNMites came out to vote, the majority of the constituents don't vote. These constituencies are ripe for the taking but the UNC is failing to expand beyond its base. You can't cuss Laventillians, tell them they are dumb for supporting PNM, tell them they are all criminals, lock them up in an SoE, racially despise them and then a few months before the election choose a nobody and say we love you, please vote for us. The same minority keeps electing PNM but the UNC is offering little alternative yet wants to win by default.
PNM do them good and PNM do them bad, but they still have self-respect. The majority will stay home and not vote but don't expect to pappyshow them and get their vote. UNC or some other 3rd party can win Laventille if they show them respect and present viable alternatives to what PNM does. But pointing and laughing at Laventille will still have you crying on election night at UNC HQ.
Nice try about "unc constituencies" but nah. Last time I checked beetham voted for pnm win or lose, pnm in government for 8 years, and they in sewage water. Your flex is that pnm give them housing LOL.
UNC has campaigned in both Laventille and POS in the past. The constituents who voted overwhelmingly choose the pnm. When there was alternative third-party options such as NNV, LOVE, ILP, PEP, other parties plus independents in the past, they still choose the pnm.
So some choosing to stay home instead of voting other parties while the diehards vote the pnm who don't have to fight for their vote? In my book, they like it so and they will continue to like it so for another fifty years. But say what... at least dey have dey lil housing so "we should be grateful and thank the lord for small mercies"... while enduring sewage water, poor infrastructure, poverty and crime.
As zoom say...
Firstly you are extrapolating a sewer problem in one location in Beetham to be affecting the entire constituency. The history of Beetham from colonial times was that it was a swamp that poor ppl would squat in. It was PNM that developed it, put streets, drainage, utilities, proper housing, schools and other govt services. But because their inherently high water table and location as drainage for the entire area, they are prone to sewage issues. This might be news to you but this has been so for decades. Why UNC didn’t fix it? But because one area they have an issue, you believe they should run into the arms of UNC.
Well it for the UNC to take. Only like 45% of ppl voted there. Of that 45% PNM won the majority. So there is like 70% of ppl for the UNC to take. You want to blame PNM for poverty and crime as if the ppl are not responsible for that themselves. But then again that is the same condescending attitude they get from UNC, hence their failure to get votes there.
You are a clown
A sewer problem? there were sewer problems all over beetham which you just admitted. Well look at that, pnm have them in a swamp. Poor utilities, poor drainage, substandard housing, failing infrastructure, and what government services?
UNC this and UNC that. Where did I say they should run in the arms of the UNC? I advocate for demanding more for their votes and exercising voting for other parties if pnm and unc not working for them. By your stats, 45% of the people should demand more for their vote while 55% should actually vote.
That has been so for decades? Guess who they allowing to ride their back for decades.
Dey like it so.
WASA completes work on Beetham sewer leak
20240502
Work has been completed on the leak which has caused much distress to residents of Beetham Gardens in recent times, an advisory from the Water and Sewerage Authority has confirmed.
“Works to remedy overflows around 24th Street, Beetham Gardens are now complete and the area fully sanitized,” WASA reports.
According to the WASA advisory, indiscriminate dumping of garbage contributed to the misery experienced by the residents.
“In the process of pump down activity to reduce the overflows, investigations confirmed that this event was in fact caused by the removal of sewer line end caps,” WASA says, “and further exacerbated by indiscriminate dumping of garbage, oils and grease into the sewer system connected to the HDC building, located in the vicinity of 24th Street. The Authority’s wastewater team immediately removed the garbage—inclusive of oil and grease—and replaced the compromised sewer line.”
“This line replacement was done as a temporary measure to bypass the existing cleanout and mitigate the potential for overflow at this connection,” WASA explains. “Manholes upstream of the building sewers were inspected to confirm carrying capacity as a further mitigation measure. In addition to this, tankers will continue to be deployed daily to assist in preventing potential overflows.”
The Authority is urging all citizens to desist from disposing garbage, oils and grease into wastewater systems, “as this practice can compromise the sewer lines, bringing extreme discomfort to residents connected to these facilities.”
https://guardian.co.tt/news/wasa-comple ... 914c98f9b9
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Open ah whole new hospital and the service remains the same
Kamla is a nurse? Doctor?Mmoney607 wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Open ah whole new hospital and the service remains the same
Yea boy, but what we go do? We absolutely can't bring back kamla
Habit7 wrote:The_Honourable wrote:Habit7 wrote:The_Honourable wrote:Habit7 wrote:I dont know how race got into this. Because when kids backflipping and frolicking in the same sewage water in floods in UNC constituencies it is just as bad.
In the last elections, both Laventilles and POS constituencies had less than 50% turnout. Meaning that only the diehard PNMites came out to vote, the majority of the constituents don't vote. These constituencies are ripe for the taking but the UNC is failing to expand beyond its base. You can't cuss Laventillians, tell them they are dumb for supporting PNM, tell them they are all criminals, lock them up in an SoE, racially despise them and then a few months before the election choose a nobody and say we love you, please vote for us. The same minority keeps electing PNM but the UNC is offering little alternative yet wants to win by default.
PNM do them good and PNM do them bad, but they still have self-respect. The majority will stay home and not vote but don't expect to pappyshow them and get their vote. UNC or some other 3rd party can win Laventille if they show them respect and present viable alternatives to what PNM does. But pointing and laughing at Laventille will still have you crying on election night at UNC HQ.
Nice try about "unc constituencies" but nah. Last time I checked beetham voted for pnm win or lose, pnm in government for 8 years, and they in sewage water. Your flex is that pnm give them housing LOL.
UNC has campaigned in both Laventille and POS in the past. The constituents who voted overwhelmingly choose the pnm. When there was alternative third-party options such as NNV, LOVE, ILP, PEP, other parties plus independents in the past, they still choose the pnm.
So some choosing to stay home instead of voting other parties while the diehards vote the pnm who don't have to fight for their vote? In my book, they like it so and they will continue to like it so for another fifty years. But say what... at least dey have dey lil housing so "we should be grateful and thank the lord for small mercies"... while enduring sewage water, poor infrastructure, poverty and crime.
As zoom say...
Firstly you are extrapolating a sewer problem in one location in Beetham to be affecting the entire constituency. The history of Beetham from colonial times was that it was a swamp that poor ppl would squat in. It was PNM that developed it, put streets, drainage, utilities, proper housing, schools and other govt services. But because their inherently high water table and location as drainage for the entire area, they are prone to sewage issues. This might be news to you but this has been so for decades. Why UNC didn’t fix it? But because one area they have an issue, you believe they should run into the arms of UNC.
Well it for the UNC to take. Only like 45% of ppl voted there. Of that 45% PNM won the majority. So there is like 70% of ppl for the UNC to take. You want to blame PNM for poverty and crime as if the ppl are not responsible for that themselves. But then again that is the same condescending attitude they get from UNC, hence their failure to get votes there.
You are a clown
A sewer problem? there were sewer problems all over beetham which you just admitted. Well look at that, pnm have them in a swamp. Poor utilities, poor drainage, substandard housing, failing infrastructure, and what government services?
UNC this and UNC that. Where did I say they should run in the arms of the UNC? I advocate for demanding more for their votes and exercising voting for other parties if pnm and unc not working for them. By your stats, 45% of the people should demand more for their vote while 55% should actually vote.
That has been so for decades? Guess who they allowing to ride their back for decades.
Dey like it so.
You are displaying why there are not votes for other than the PNM. You don't care about the Beethamites, they are just pawns in your politics in which you can denigrate and broad bush them without knowing anything about Beetham. Nobody is living in a swamp, PNM took a colonial shanty town that was in a swamp and built a neighbourhood with infrastructure. If they have a central sewage system that has a leak somewhere, then the leak has to be fixed. But it is still infrastructure. But you are crying they don't have proper infrastructure, they tell you that? The leak happened in an HDC housing area where they are building further facilities for them, but are you crying that they have poor infrastructure, drainage and govt services? I remember sitting in traffic after PNM came back in power on a Saturday because Hinds decided to change every collapsed culvert under Beetham Hwy to provide better drainage. But a UNC activist kicked water on him and we all laughed. Because heavy is the head that wears the crown. https://tt.loopnews.com/content/culvert ... -completed
Beetham is one neighbourhood in the larger constituency of Laventille West. 9310 ppl voted for PNM in 2020 out of 25,585 eligible voters, in other words 36%. But you think a sewage leak on 24th Street in Beetham should paint all Laventille West a dumb voters in the clutches of PNM who should have a perfect central sewage system but because they don't, "Dey like it so." 36% is enough for you to share the same sentiment of the UNC and broad brush them. Apparently you know what infrastructure, drainage, utilities and govt services Beethamites lack and what everybody else is getting. You want to drink bush tea for their fever. You know that the residents most affected by the leak will still ram their X by the Balisier. Why? Because you can judge ppl based on their address, not as individuals.
BTWWASA completes work on Beetham sewer leak
20240502
Work has been completed on the leak which has caused much distress to residents of Beetham Gardens in recent times, an advisory from the Water and Sewerage Authority has confirmed.
“Works to remedy overflows around 24th Street, Beetham Gardens are now complete and the area fully sanitized,” WASA reports.
According to the WASA advisory, indiscriminate dumping of garbage contributed to the misery experienced by the residents.
“In the process of pump down activity to reduce the overflows, investigations confirmed that this event was in fact caused by the removal of sewer line end caps,” WASA says, “and further exacerbated by indiscriminate dumping of garbage, oils and grease into the sewer system connected to the HDC building, located in the vicinity of 24th Street. The Authority’s wastewater team immediately removed the garbage—inclusive of oil and grease—and replaced the compromised sewer line.”
“This line replacement was done as a temporary measure to bypass the existing cleanout and mitigate the potential for overflow at this connection,” WASA explains. “Manholes upstream of the building sewers were inspected to confirm carrying capacity as a further mitigation measure. In addition to this, tankers will continue to be deployed daily to assist in preventing potential overflows.”
The Authority is urging all citizens to desist from disposing garbage, oils and grease into wastewater systems, “as this practice can compromise the sewer lines, bringing extreme discomfort to residents connected to these facilities.”
https://guardian.co.tt/news/wasa-comple ... 914c98f9b9
Habit7 wrote:So because you suffering from myopia, everybody else should suffer too? The President of the US does check ups in a clinic in Wyoming or he does it at the top military hospital in Washington DC? You stay there and cry PNM and UNC. If ppl have money let them spent it. There is no way our island with 1.5M ppl can have the comprehensive healthcare of a city serving 10s of millions with deep pockets to back it.
And since “all over the wurlllllll” is invalid, consider our crime rates as normal, if not perfect. Since we can’t compare metrics with other countries then who is to say we aren’t in nirvana right now?
The_Honourable wrote:Habit7 wrote:So because you suffering from myopia, everybody else should suffer too? The President of the US does check ups in a clinic in Wyoming or he does it at the top military hospital in Washington DC? You stay there and cry PNM and UNC. If ppl have money let them spent it. There is no way our island with 1.5M ppl can have the comprehensive healthcare of a city serving 10s of millions with deep pockets to back it.
And since “all over the wurlllllll” is invalid, consider our crime rates as normal, if not perfect. Since we can’t compare metrics with other countries then who is to say we aren’t in nirvana right now?
He within the United States getting checkups not so?
“all over the wurlllllll” is pnmites favorite excuse to deflect from pnm incompetence.
When POS flood this rainy season, you will hear "buh buh buh... dat happening all over the wurlllllll... yuh cyah stop daaaatt"
A bunch ah pnm YAP.
Ria Taitt
17 hrs ago
Disturbing.
This is how chairman of the Public Accounts Committee Dave Tancoo yesterday described information that the then-minister of agriculture gave a “verbal instruction” to National Agricultural Marketing and Development Corporation (Namdevco) chairman Wayne Inniss to engage a particular provider to do the corporation’s strategic 2019-2021 plan.
The minister at the time was Clarence Rambharat.
At the PAC meeting, Tancoo said the corporation had indicated in its written submission that the method used to procure the services for the development of the plan was sole selective (tender) based on Section 12 of the act, which states that in the exercise of its powers and duties, the corporation shall comply with any special or general directions which may from time to time be given to it by the minister.
“Were any guidelines provided by any minister for the selection of this entity to do the strat(egic) plan?” Tancoo asked.
Inniss said: “Yes, we were directed by the honourable minister then to use the services of the person who did this job.”
“Now this is very interesting and disturbing at the same time because the law is there which facilitates this action. Can you advise whether that recommendation to use a particular provider was provided in writing?” Tancoo asked.
“I received a verbal instruction,” Inniss stated.
“So you are saying that as chairman, you received an instruction from a sitting Minister of Government who says you should use this provider as opposed to using another process, maybe selective tendering?” Tancoo asked.
Inniss said the provider was already doing work with the ministry, when it (the ministry) began seeking a consultant to do a strategic plan.
The person was paid $75,000 for the plan.
Tancoo said his point was whether Inniss felt that was an “unusual or inappropriate methodology for selecting any supplier of any service. A ministerial direction should only be given under specific types of circumstances”.
Noting such a service is provided by many providers, he asked whether Inniss felt this was a normal way of doing business.
“Given the circumstances of the time and the urgency of the requirement, yes it was,” Inniss replied.
In response to a question, Inniss said there had been no other request by a minister to engage any other provider for any other activity.
Tancoo asked Inniss whether he was aware that according to the Ministry of Finance Investment Division, “and I quote, sole selective tendering should only be used in rare and exceptional circumstances” as it is “the least transparent form of tendering. That is from the Investment Division Procurement Practices and Public Procurement and Disposal.
“Respectfully, I cannot see how the selection of a provider for a service for which there are many providers nationally and internationally... how that could be defined as such... ‘rare and exceptional circumstances’.”
Asked whether Inniss suggested to the minister that a competitive tendering process be used, Inniss said since under the act the minister could give such a direction, there was “no need to engage him in any additional discussion”.
He added that the prevailing circumstances at the time required “urgent action” to get the strategic plan done.
Tancoo said it was the lack of foresight, rather than “urgency” since the corporation knew well beforehand that the 2015-2018 strategic plan was going to expire.
When asked for his perspective on the matter, the permanent secretary in the Ministry of Agriculture Farook Hosein said he could not be helpful in this matter because he didn’t have the information.
Tancoo said he was also concerned because the corporation was not looking to do a strategic plan for 2022-25 or 2026.
“(The year) 2022 is gone, 2023 is gone, 2024 is going. So we are now looking to do a strategic plan for a period which has already passed,” he said.
Asked for the name of the company that provided the 2019-2021 strategic plan, Inniss said it was Dr Zameer Mohammed.
Tancoo asked what Namdevco did in the period prior to 2022 to expedite the 2022-2025 strategic plan, “given that you have no strat plan from 2022 to the current period, but you saw an ‘urgency’ and took the instruction of a minister then from 2019”.
“I can’t answer that question,” Inniss said.
Asked why Namdevco did not go back to Dr Mohammed to do the 2022-2025 strategic plan before the expiry of the 2019-2021 plan, Inniss said the individual was welcome to respond to the invitation to tender.
16 cycles wrote:should the Att.Gen advise both Minister of Finance and Auditor General equally on lawful and constitutional obligations?
The Auditor General is an independent officeholder. The government cannot interfere in its operations.pugboy wrote:so att gen is part of govt that is “we” and the aud gen is part of the govt that is “dem”
Habit7 wrote:And since “all over the wurlllllll” is invalid, consider our crime rates as normal, if not perfect. Since we can’t compare metrics with other countries then who is to say we aren’t in nirvana right now?
bluefete wrote:Habit7 wrote:And since “all over the wurlllllll” is invalid, consider our crime rates as normal, if not perfect. Since we can’t compare metrics with other countries then who is to say we aren’t in nirvana right now?
Ah know yuh wukking hard fuh your PNM pay, eh, but oh gorsch man, Habit 7, REALLY?
wing wrote:The Auditor General is an independent officeholder. The government cannot interfere in its operations.pugboy wrote:so att gen is part of govt that is “we” and the aud gen is part of the govt that is “dem”
Aluko Ato Warner, one of the sons of Tobago construction magnate Allan Warner, is among eight people charged in connection with an illegal quarrying operation in Wallerfield. Warner, sources confirmed, was arrested and charged following a raid at a Moonan Road quarry processing site on Thursday.
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